As always, Linda, your information is wonderful. I also think it is great to have this information on the website because a LOT of researchers have the list of marriages for Elizabeth Guibert that I mentioned earlier--the marriages that were actually for Elizabeth _________. And, I agree, the dates for the earlier marriages were too early for Elizabeth Guibert. Do you have any idea who the other Elizabeth was? On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > Sorry John, but we disagree. > > 1. Elizabeth Guibert, b. before 1679, was married twice--first to Thomas > Turner, Jr. and second to John Baptist Carberry, Jr. (son of John Baptist > Carberry, Sr. and first wife, Ann Thompson). She was still Elizabeth > Carberry as late as 1733. > > Will of Thomas Turner, SMC 10/31/1696-2/15/1696. Son: Thomas, personal > estate and 400 ac., pt. of "St. Thomas'". Son: Joshua, personal estate; 190 > ac. "Audley End"; and 150 ac. residue of "St. Thomas'". Daughter: Monica, > personal estate and 200 ac. "St. Dorothy's" on the w. side of St. Clement's > Bay. To: Thomas Bencroft, Robert Thompson, and William Michell, personal > estate. Wife: Elizabeth (Exec.) residuary legatee of estate, real and > personal. Wit: Clement Hill, Sr., William Smith, Elizabeth Dash. (Maryland > Calendar of Wills). > > Will of Joshua Guibert, St. Mary's Co., 2/26/1713-5/16/1713. Son: Thomas and > heirs, dwelling plantation on St. Clement's Bay and lands adjoining thereto. > Son: Matthew and heirs, "Guibert's Chance" and the addition to same near St. > Clement's Bay. Son: Joshua and heirs, about 160 ac. "Tower Hill" in Charles > County, also dwelling plantation afsd. should son Thomas die without issue. > Daughter: Mary, personalty. Daughter: Eliza.: Carberry, personalty in > addition to that given her when she married Thomas Turner. Daughter: Ann > Blackston, personalty in addition to that given her when she married John > Blackston. Wife: Elizabeth, life interest in dwelling plantation and lands > devised Thomas afsd. Sons Thomas and Joshua afsd., exs., and residuary > legatees. Wit.: William Walker, Frances Marritt, John Marritt. (Maryland > Calendar of Wills). > > Elizabeth Carberry, living near St. Clement's Bay in SMC, reports a runaway > mulatto slave called Matthew, sometimes called Matthew Masters or Matthew > Fletcher, aged about 27 years. He can pass for a white man. (The Maryland > Gazette, 3/16/1733). > > 2. Elizabeth, b. 1647 (maiden name unknown) was married four times. First, > was Col. William Evans; second was John Jordan; third was Cuthbert Scott; > and fourth was John Baptist Carberry, Sr. (widower of Ann Thompson and > father of JBC, Jr.). > > 6/4/1679: William Evans d. 3/1669 seized of a parcel of land on the e. side > of St. Clement's Bay which he devised by his will to his wife, Elizabeth. > She married Capt. John Jordan who died about 9/8/1678. She married Cuthbert > Scott 10/28/1678. (Extracts from Chancery Court Records of Maryland, > 1669-1679, MD Gen. Soc. Bulletin, Fall 1994). > > Chancery Court Proceedings, 1679: And the Jurors do further upon their > Oaths Say That the said Coll.° William Evans dyed So Seized and possessed of > the Said Severall Tracts & parcells of Land haveing before his death made > his last Will & Testam.t in writeing and therein devised the Said Lands by > will bearing date the tenth day of ffebruary Annoq Domini 1667 as is here > Expressed viz.t I Give and bequeath unto my Dear & Loveing wife Elizabeth > Evans all my Lands Goods and Chattels and what (fol. 285) soever else that > doth belong & appertain unto my Estate or of Right ought to belong or > appertain thereto And the Jurors do Say that the Said William Evans deceased > in march Anno Domini 1669 And the Jurors afores.d do upon their oaths > further Say that Elizabeth Evans Entered into the Land & held the Same > dureing her widowhood and after to witt in the month of may Anno Domini 1669 > She Inter married w.th Capt Jn.° Jordain and they the Said John & Elizabeth > in Right of Elizabeth his wife held the Same untill the Death of the Liber C > D Said John Jourdain w.th was about the Eigth of September Anno Domini 1678 > And the Jurors do further Say that from the time the Said Elizabeth Entered > into the premisses & held the Same dureing her widowhood & after to witt the > Twenty Eigth day of October Anno 1678 She Intermarried with m.r Cuthbert > Scott w.ch Said Cuthbert and Elizabeth held and Enjoyed the Same in Right of > Elizabeth and being So in possession thereof and being informed and advised > that the last will & Testam.t of the Said Coll.° William Evans in Some part > thereof is defective and that for want of the words to her and her heir for > Ever proves only an Estate for life the words heirs & assigns for Ever being > not Inserted in the Said Will as they Should have been to have made an > Estate of Inheritance to his wife w.ch the Said Juro.rs do verily believe > was his Intention they the Said Cuthbert Scott & Elizabeth his wife by their > Deed bearing date the Eighteenth day of Aprill Annoq Domini 1679 for and in > p. 233 Consideration of the Summ of thirty thousand pounds of Tobacco (fol. > 285) in hand paid to them the Said Cuthbert & Elizabeth by the Right Hon.ble > Charles Lord Baltemore did fully Clearly and absolutely Give Grant alien > Bargain Sell & Confirm unto the Said Lord Baltemore his heirs and assigns > for Ever all those pieces and parcells of Land herein these presents before > Expressed and that by virtue thereof his Lordship became Seized of the Sd > Lands and premisses dureing the life of the Said Elizabeth Scott by Virtue > of the Said Deed from the Said Scott and his wife And the Jurors afores.d do > further Say that the Lands & Tenem.ts are of value by the year in all issues > the Sum of Sixteen hundred pounds of Tobacco & that they find no heir and > that Cap.t John Jourdein & m.r Cuthbert Scott hath for the most part > Occupied the Sd Lands & Tenem.ts from the time of the Death of the Said > William Evans and the issue & profits thereof hath received and his > Lordship's Rent for the Same hath paid And that the Said Cuthbert Scott and > Elizabeth his wife doth now Enjoy the Same as Tennants to my (fol. 286) Lord > Baltemore afs.d In Testimony whereof as well the Said Corn mission.rs as the > Juro.rs aforesaid have hereunto Set their hands and affixed their Seals the > day and year first above Written Clement Hill sealed rs d ommisson.rs > (Archives of Maryland). > > 9/19/1692, Elizabeth, wife of John Baptist Carberry, relict and admix. of > Cuthbert Scott, dec'd is now herself lately deceased intestate (Test. Pro. > 14A:4). > > Linda Reno > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Dobricky > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:45 AM > To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest > > Hi. One correction.....Elizabeth Guibert (daughter of Joshua Guibert > I and Elizabeth Barber) had more than two husbands. Depending on who > you talk to, her first husband was William Evans (although I think she > was too young to have married him), her second husband was John > Jourdain/Jordan, her third husband was Thomas Turner II, her fourth > husband was Cuthbert Scott (that is how, John Baptist Carberry ended > up with the 2,100 acres of "Hopton Park"), and her fifth husband was > John Baptist Carberry. Of course, feedback, thoughts, and suggestions > are always welcome. John Dobricky > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:46 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: MarilynRoth58 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.s > tmarys/4587.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Perhaps the persons who posted information on Ancestry.com can help. > Several files have John Baptist CARBERRY, who was born in the 1660's & d. > bef. 19 Nov. 1728, St. Mary's Co., MD, m. 1697 , St. Mary's Co., MD, > Elizabeth GUIBERT, b. ca. 1670. He owned "Carberry's Discovery" by 1715. >> >> The information is somewhat verified by Elise Greenup Jourdan's Early > Families of Southern Maryland. "St. Thomas," 550 acres, was surveyed for > Emma TURNER in St. Clement's Hundred, 9 July 1663; also "St. Thomas," 550 > acres in New Town Hundred, surveyed for Emma TURNER on east side of St. > Thomas Run that falls into the main run of Choptico Bay. "Little St. > Thomas," 200 acres, Choptico Hundred, surveyed 23 July 1664 for Emma TURNER > near the main branch of Choptico; same patented 10 Oct. 1668 for Wm. > ROSWELL. The above tracts were held in 1707 for TURNER orphans by John > Baptist CARBERRY. >> >> Relationships are difficult to state because of the use of terms such as > sister or brother to mean in-laws, but this seems to be the case: >> >> Emma (maiden name unknown) m1. Thomas TURNER [Sr.] & m2. Wm. ROSWELL. > Thomas TURNER [Jr.] married as first husband of Elizabeth GUIBERT, dau/o > Joshua & Elizabeth. Elizabeth, formerly wf/o Thomas TURNER, m2. 1697 John > Baptist CARBERRY. >> >> Maryland Calendar of Wills does not have a will for John B. Carberry in > 1728. However, there was an inventory of his estate 19 Nov. 1728 & 6 Je. > 1729, Mr. John Baptis CARBERY, 14.182. Next of kin Nicholas MILLS & Eleanor > CARBERY, administrators Mrs. Elisabeth CARBERY & John Baptis CARBERY. >> >> Somewhere along the line of owners of the property, there might have been > an abstract showing all of the prior owners. >> >> --not my family >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Hi List, Is it true that the last name of the Emma, who married Thomas Turner, is not known? I bet Linda knows! I have her as Emma Langworth, daughter of James Langworth and ?. She is my 8g's grandmother. My data is based on the following: "Gave deposition in 1661 that she was 35 yeas old.Widow of William Johnson(1st) and Thomas Turner (2nd). After the death of Thomas she had the Turner property re-surveyed as 550 acres of “St. Thomas”, 500 acres of “St. Barbara’s”, and 200 acres of “little St. Thomas”. John Bapthish Carberry II was apparantly the guardian of this paroberties (sic) for the Turner children and by 1715 all of this land was in the possession of the grandson, Thomas Turner(3). Of “St. Winifred’s”. Transported into Province in 1642 by Francis White (Patents 1:24). Purchased 500 acre tract of “St. Winifred” from Thomas Gerard. The Maryland Calendar of Wills, Volume I Wills from 1635 (Earliest Probated) to 1685 Pages 14-27 Johnson, William, St. Wynefrid's, St. Mary's Co., 7th June, 1656; -- -- --. To wife Emma and dau. Eliza: Johnson, entire estate if they, or either of them, arrive in England; if not, following division of property to be made: To neph. William Langworth, son of brother James Langworth, 500 A. “St. Wynefride.” To Roman Catholic Church, Emma Shanks, dau, of John Shanks of St. Clement's Bay, niece Mrs. Mary Langworth, sisters Agatha Langworth, Eliza: Price, Eliza: Morris, and mother, Mrs. Eliza: Morris, personalty. Ex., brother James Langworth. Test: Luke Gardner, Robt. Cole, Wm. Thompson. 1. 129. Editors: William Johnson immigrated in 1651 and was deceased by 1658 according to Land Records, Liber Q, Folio 19, which includes the information that Aemilia Johnson was the sister-in-law of James Langworth and by 1658, the relict of William Johnson (Gibb Amelia (Emma) did come to Maryland where she married 2nd Thomas Turner and 3rd William Roswell. See both James Langworth's and Thomas Turner's wills below. See also Combs &c. of St. Mary's, 1656-1699 " I hope Linda can confirm/correct/or add to this/ Cheers, Pete On 1/4/13 10:55 AM, John Dobricky wrote: > As always, Linda, your information is wonderful. I also think it is > great to have this information on the website because a LOT of > researchers have the list of marriages for Elizabeth Guibert that I > mentioned earlier--the marriages that were actually for Elizabeth > _________. And, I agree, the dates for the earlier marriages were too > early for Elizabeth Guibert. Do you have any idea who the other > Elizabeth was? > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Linda Reno<lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Sorry John, but we disagree. >> >> 1. Elizabeth Guibert, b. before 1679, was married twice--first to Thomas >> Turner, Jr. and second to John Baptist Carberry, Jr. (son of John Baptist >> Carberry, Sr. and first wife, Ann Thompson). She was still Elizabeth >> Carberry as late as 1733. >> >> Will of Thomas Turner, SMC 10/31/1696-2/15/1696. Son: Thomas, personal >> estate and 400 ac., pt. of "St. Thomas'". Son: Joshua, personal estate; 190 >> ac. "Audley End"; and 150 ac. residue of "St. Thomas'". Daughter: Monica, >> personal estate and 200 ac. "St. Dorothy's" on the w. side of St. Clement's >> Bay. To: Thomas Bencroft, Robert Thompson, and William Michell, personal >> estate. Wife: Elizabeth (Exec.) residuary legatee of estate, real and >> personal. Wit: Clement Hill, Sr., William Smith, Elizabeth Dash. (Maryland >> Calendar of Wills). >> >> Will of Joshua Guibert, St. Mary's Co., 2/26/1713-5/16/1713. Son: Thomas and >> heirs, dwelling plantation on St. Clement's Bay and lands adjoining thereto. >> Son: Matthew and heirs, "Guibert's Chance" and the addition to same near St. >> Clement's Bay. Son: Joshua and heirs, about 160 ac. "Tower Hill" in Charles >> County, also dwelling plantation afsd. should son Thomas die without issue. >> Daughter: Mary, personalty. Daughter: Eliza.: Carberry, personalty in >> addition to that given her when she married Thomas Turner. Daughter: Ann >> Blackston, personalty in addition to that given her when she married John >> Blackston. Wife: Elizabeth, life interest in dwelling plantation and lands >> devised Thomas afsd. Sons Thomas and Joshua afsd., exs., and residuary >> legatees. Wit.: William Walker, Frances Marritt, John Marritt. (Maryland >> Calendar of Wills). >> >> Elizabeth Carberry, living near St. Clement's Bay in SMC, reports a runaway >> mulatto slave called Matthew, sometimes called Matthew Masters or Matthew >> Fletcher, aged about 27 years. He can pass for a white man. (The Maryland >> Gazette, 3/16/1733). >> >> 2. Elizabeth, b. 1647 (maiden name unknown) was married four times. First, >> was Col. William Evans; second was John Jordan; third was Cuthbert Scott; >> and fourth was John Baptist Carberry, Sr. (widower of Ann Thompson and >> father of JBC, Jr.). >> >> 6/4/1679: William Evans d. 3/1669 seized of a parcel of land on the e. side >> of St. Clement's Bay which he devised by his will to his wife, Elizabeth. >> She married Capt. John Jordan who died about 9/8/1678. She married Cuthbert >> Scott 10/28/1678. (Extracts from Chancery Court Records of Maryland, >> 1669-1679, MD Gen. Soc. Bulletin, Fall 1994). >> >> Chancery Court Proceedings, 1679: And the Jurors do further upon their >> Oaths Say That the said Coll.° William Evans dyed So Seized and possessed of >> the Said Severall Tracts& parcells of Land haveing before his death made >> his last Will& Testam.t in writeing and therein devised the Said Lands by >> will bearing date the tenth day of ffebruary Annoq Domini 1667 as is here >> Expressed viz.t I Give and bequeath unto my Dear& Loveing wife Elizabeth >> Evans all my Lands Goods and Chattels and what (fol. 285) soever else that >> doth belong& appertain unto my Estate or of Right ought to belong or >> appertain thereto And the Jurors do Say that the Said William Evans deceased >> in march Anno Domini 1669 And the Jurors afores.d do upon their oaths >> further Say that Elizabeth Evans Entered into the Land& held the Same >> dureing her widowhood and after to witt in the month of may Anno Domini 1669 >> She Inter married w.th Capt Jn.° Jordain and they the Said John& Elizabeth >> in Right of Elizabeth his wife held the Same untill the Death of the Liber C >> D Said John Jourdain w.th was about the Eigth of September Anno Domini 1678 >> And the Jurors do further Say that from the time the Said Elizabeth Entered >> into the premisses& held the Same dureing her widowhood& after to witt the >> Twenty Eigth day of October Anno 1678 She Intermarried with m.r Cuthbert >> Scott w.ch Said Cuthbert and Elizabeth held and Enjoyed the Same in Right of >> Elizabeth and being So in possession thereof and being informed and advised >> that the last will& Testam.t of the Said Coll.° William Evans in Some part >> thereof is defective and that for want of the words to her and her heir for >> Ever proves only an Estate for life the words heirs& assigns for Ever being >> not Inserted in the Said Will as they Should have been to have made an >> Estate of Inheritance to his wife w.ch the Said Juro.rs do verily believe >> was his Intention they the Said Cuthbert Scott& Elizabeth his wife by their >> Deed bearing date the Eighteenth day of Aprill Annoq Domini 1679 for and in >> p. 233 Consideration of the Summ of thirty thousand pounds of Tobacco (fol. >> 285) in hand paid to them the Said Cuthbert& Elizabeth by the Right Hon.ble >> Charles Lord Baltemore did fully Clearly and absolutely Give Grant alien >> Bargain Sell& Confirm unto the Said Lord Baltemore his heirs and assigns >> for Ever all those pieces and parcells of Land herein these presents before >> Expressed and that by virtue thereof his Lordship became Seized of the Sd >> Lands and premisses dureing the life of the Said Elizabeth Scott by Virtue >> of the Said Deed from the Said Scott and his wife And the Jurors afores.d do >> further Say that the Lands& Tenem.ts are of value by the year in all issues >> the Sum of Sixteen hundred pounds of Tobacco& that they find no heir and >> that Cap.t John Jourdein& m.r Cuthbert Scott hath for the most part >> Occupied the Sd Lands& Tenem.ts from the time of the Death of the Said >> William Evans and the issue& profits thereof hath received and his >> Lordship's Rent for the Same hath paid And that the Said Cuthbert Scott and >> Elizabeth his wife doth now Enjoy the Same as Tennants to my (fol. 286) Lord >> Baltemore afs.d In Testimony whereof as well the Said Corn mission.rs as the >> Juro.rs aforesaid have hereunto Set their hands and affixed their Seals the >> day and year first above Written Clement Hill sealed rs d ommisson.rs >> (Archives of Maryland). >> >> 9/19/1692, Elizabeth, wife of John Baptist Carberry, relict and admix. of >> Cuthbert Scott, dec'd is now herself lately deceased intestate (Test. Pro. >> 14A:4). >> >> Linda Reno >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of John Dobricky >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:45 AM >> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; mdstmary@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest >> >> Hi. One correction.....Elizabeth Guibert (daughter of Joshua Guibert >> I and Elizabeth Barber) had more than two husbands. Depending on who >> you talk to, her first husband was William Evans (although I think she >> was too young to have married him), her second husband was John >> Jourdain/Jordan, her third husband was Thomas Turner II, her fourth >> husband was Cuthbert Scott (that is how, John Baptist Carberry ended >> up with the 2,100 acres of "Hopton Park"), and her fifth husband was >> John Baptist Carberry. Of course, feedback, thoughts, and suggestions >> are always welcome. John Dobricky >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:46 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com >> <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>> >>> Author: MarilynRoth58 >>> Surnames: >>> Classification: queries >>> >>> Message Board URL: >>> >>> >>> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.s >> tmarys/4587.1/mb.ashx >> >>> Message Board Post: >>> >>> Perhaps the persons who posted information on Ancestry.com can help. >>> >> Several files have John Baptist CARBERRY, who was born in the 1660's& d. >> bef. 19 Nov. 1728, St. Mary's Co., MD, m. 1697 , St. Mary's Co., MD, >> Elizabeth GUIBERT, b. ca. 1670. He owned "Carberry's Discovery" by 1715. >> >>> The information is somewhat verified by Elise Greenup Jourdan's Early >>> >> Families of Southern Maryland. "St. Thomas," 550 acres, was surveyed for >> Emma TURNER in St. Clement's Hundred, 9 July 1663; also "St. Thomas," 550 >> acres in New Town Hundred, surveyed for Emma TURNER on east side of St. >> Thomas Run that falls into the main run of Choptico Bay. "Little St. >> Thomas," 200 acres, Choptico Hundred, surveyed 23 July 1664 for Emma TURNER >> near the main branch of Choptico; same patented 10 Oct. 1668 for Wm. >> ROSWELL. The above tracts were held in 1707 for TURNER orphans by John >> Baptist CARBERRY. >> >>> Relationships are difficult to state because of the use of terms such as >>> >> sister or brother to mean in-laws, but this seems to be the case: >> >>> Emma (maiden name unknown) m1. Thomas TURNER [Sr.]& m2. Wm. ROSWELL. >>> >> Thomas TURNER [Jr.] married as first husband of Elizabeth GUIBERT, dau/o >> Joshua& Elizabeth. Elizabeth, formerly wf/o Thomas TURNER, m2. 1697 John >> Baptist CARBERRY. >> >>> Maryland Calendar of Wills does not have a will for John B. Carberry in >>> >> 1728. However, there was an inventory of his estate 19 Nov. 1728& 6 Je. >> 1729, Mr. John Baptis CARBERY, 14.182. Next of kin Nicholas MILLS& Eleanor >> CARBERY, administrators Mrs. Elisabeth CARBERY& John Baptis CARBERY. >> >>> Somewhere along the line of owners of the property, there might have been >>> >> an abstract showing all of the prior owners. >> >>> --not my family >>> >>> Important Note: >>> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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No, John. I haven't found the maiden name of Elizabeth. Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Dobricky Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:56 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest As always, Linda, your information is wonderful. I also think it is great to have this information on the website because a LOT of researchers have the list of marriages for Elizabeth Guibert that I mentioned earlier--the marriages that were actually for Elizabeth _________. And, I agree, the dates for the earlier marriages were too early for Elizabeth Guibert. Do you have any idea who the other Elizabeth was? On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > Sorry John, but we disagree. > > 1. Elizabeth Guibert, b. before 1679, was married twice--first to Thomas > Turner, Jr. and second to John Baptist Carberry, Jr. (son of John Baptist > Carberry, Sr. and first wife, Ann Thompson). She was still Elizabeth > Carberry as late as 1733. > > Will of Thomas Turner, SMC 10/31/1696-2/15/1696. Son: Thomas, personal > estate and 400 ac., pt. of "St. Thomas'". Son: Joshua, personal estate; 190 > ac. "Audley End"; and 150 ac. residue of "St. Thomas'". Daughter: Monica, > personal estate and 200 ac. "St. Dorothy's" on the w. side of St. Clement's > Bay. To: Thomas Bencroft, Robert Thompson, and William Michell, personal > estate. Wife: Elizabeth (Exec.) residuary legatee of estate, real and > personal. Wit: Clement Hill, Sr., William Smith, Elizabeth Dash. (Maryland > Calendar of Wills). > > Will of Joshua Guibert, St. Mary's Co., 2/26/1713-5/16/1713. Son: Thomas and > heirs, dwelling plantation on St. Clement's Bay and lands adjoining thereto. > Son: Matthew and heirs, "Guibert's Chance" and the addition to same near St. > Clement's Bay. Son: Joshua and heirs, about 160 ac. "Tower Hill" in Charles > County, also dwelling plantation afsd. should son Thomas die without issue. > Daughter: Mary, personalty. Daughter: Eliza.: Carberry, personalty in > addition to that given her when she married Thomas Turner. Daughter: Ann > Blackston, personalty in addition to that given her when she married John > Blackston. Wife: Elizabeth, life interest in dwelling plantation and lands > devised Thomas afsd. Sons Thomas and Joshua afsd., exs., and residuary > legatees. Wit.: William Walker, Frances Marritt, John Marritt. (Maryland > Calendar of Wills). > > Elizabeth Carberry, living near St. Clement's Bay in SMC, reports a runaway > mulatto slave called Matthew, sometimes called Matthew Masters or Matthew > Fletcher, aged about 27 years. He can pass for a white man. (The Maryland > Gazette, 3/16/1733). > > 2. Elizabeth, b. 1647 (maiden name unknown) was married four times. First, > was Col. William Evans; second was John Jordan; third was Cuthbert Scott; > and fourth was John Baptist Carberry, Sr. (widower of Ann Thompson and > father of JBC, Jr.). > > 6/4/1679: William Evans d. 3/1669 seized of a parcel of land on the e. side > of St. Clement's Bay which he devised by his will to his wife, Elizabeth. > She married Capt. John Jordan who died about 9/8/1678. She married Cuthbert > Scott 10/28/1678. (Extracts from Chancery Court Records of Maryland, > 1669-1679, MD Gen. Soc. Bulletin, Fall 1994). > > Chancery Court Proceedings, 1679: And the Jurors do further upon their > Oaths Say That the said Coll.° William Evans dyed So Seized and possessed of > the Said Severall Tracts & parcells of Land haveing before his death made > his last Will & Testam.t in writeing and therein devised the Said Lands by > will bearing date the tenth day of ffebruary Annoq Domini 1667 as is here > Expressed viz.t I Give and bequeath unto my Dear & Loveing wife Elizabeth > Evans all my Lands Goods and Chattels and what (fol. 285) soever else that > doth belong & appertain unto my Estate or of Right ought to belong or > appertain thereto And the Jurors do Say that the Said William Evans deceased > in march Anno Domini 1669 And the Jurors afores.d do upon their oaths > further Say that Elizabeth Evans Entered into the Land & held the Same > dureing her widowhood and after to witt in the month of may Anno Domini 1669 > She Inter married w.th Capt Jn.° Jordain and they the Said John & Elizabeth > in Right of Elizabeth his wife held the Same untill the Death of the Liber C > D Said John Jourdain w.th was about the Eigth of September Anno Domini 1678 > And the Jurors do further Say that from the time the Said Elizabeth Entered > into the premisses & held the Same dureing her widowhood & after to witt the > Twenty Eigth day of October Anno 1678 She Intermarried with m.r Cuthbert > Scott w.ch Said Cuthbert and Elizabeth held and Enjoyed the Same in Right of > Elizabeth and being So in possession thereof and being informed and advised > that the last will & Testam.t of the Said Coll.° William Evans in Some part > thereof is defective and that for want of the words to her and her heir for > Ever proves only an Estate for life the words heirs & assigns for Ever being > not Inserted in the Said Will as they Should have been to have made an > Estate of Inheritance to his wife w.ch the Said Juro.rs do verily believe > was his Intention they the Said Cuthbert Scott & Elizabeth his wife by their > Deed bearing date the Eighteenth day of Aprill Annoq Domini 1679 for and in > p. 233 Consideration of the Summ of thirty thousand pounds of Tobacco (fol. > 285) in hand paid to them the Said Cuthbert & Elizabeth by the Right Hon.ble > Charles Lord Baltemore did fully Clearly and absolutely Give Grant alien > Bargain Sell & Confirm unto the Said Lord Baltemore his heirs and assigns > for Ever all those pieces and parcells of Land herein these presents before > Expressed and that by virtue thereof his Lordship became Seized of the Sd > Lands and premisses dureing the life of the Said Elizabeth Scott by Virtue > of the Said Deed from the Said Scott and his wife And the Jurors afores.d do > further Say that the Lands & Tenem.ts are of value by the year in all issues > the Sum of Sixteen hundred pounds of Tobacco & that they find no heir and > that Cap.t John Jourdein & m.r Cuthbert Scott hath for the most part > Occupied the Sd Lands & Tenem.ts from the time of the Death of the Said > William Evans and the issue & profits thereof hath received and his > Lordship's Rent for the Same hath paid And that the Said Cuthbert Scott and > Elizabeth his wife doth now Enjoy the Same as Tennants to my (fol. 286) Lord > Baltemore afs.d In Testimony whereof as well the Said Corn mission.rs as the > Juro.rs aforesaid have hereunto Set their hands and affixed their Seals the > day and year first above Written Clement Hill sealed rs d ommisson.rs > (Archives of Maryland). > > 9/19/1692, Elizabeth, wife of John Baptist Carberry, relict and admix. of > Cuthbert Scott, dec'd is now herself lately deceased intestate (Test. Pro. > 14A:4). > > Linda Reno > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Dobricky > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:45 AM > To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest > > Hi. One correction.....Elizabeth Guibert (daughter of Joshua Guibert > I and Elizabeth Barber) had more than two husbands. Depending on who > you talk to, her first husband was William Evans (although I think she > was too young to have married him), her second husband was John > Jourdain/Jordan, her third husband was Thomas Turner II, her fourth > husband was Cuthbert Scott (that is how, John Baptist Carberry ended > up with the 2,100 acres of "Hopton Park"), and her fifth husband was > John Baptist Carberry. Of course, feedback, thoughts, and suggestions > are always welcome. John Dobricky > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:46 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: MarilynRoth58 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.s > tmarys/4587.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Perhaps the persons who posted information on Ancestry.com can help. > Several files have John Baptist CARBERRY, who was born in the 1660's & d. > bef. 19 Nov. 1728, St. Mary's Co., MD, m. 1697 , St. Mary's Co., MD, > Elizabeth GUIBERT, b. ca. 1670. He owned "Carberry's Discovery" by 1715. >> >> The information is somewhat verified by Elise Greenup Jourdan's Early > Families of Southern Maryland. "St. Thomas," 550 acres, was surveyed for > Emma TURNER in St. Clement's Hundred, 9 July 1663; also "St. Thomas," 550 > acres in New Town Hundred, surveyed for Emma TURNER on east side of St. > Thomas Run that falls into the main run of Choptico Bay. "Little St. > Thomas," 200 acres, Choptico Hundred, surveyed 23 July 1664 for Emma TURNER > near the main branch of Choptico; same patented 10 Oct. 1668 for Wm. > ROSWELL. The above tracts were held in 1707 for TURNER orphans by John > Baptist CARBERRY. >> >> Relationships are difficult to state because of the use of terms such as > sister or brother to mean in-laws, but this seems to be the case: >> >> Emma (maiden name unknown) m1. Thomas TURNER [Sr.] & m2. Wm. ROSWELL. > Thomas TURNER [Jr.] married as first husband of Elizabeth GUIBERT, dau/o > Joshua & Elizabeth. Elizabeth, formerly wf/o Thomas TURNER, m2. 1697 John > Baptist CARBERRY. >> >> Maryland Calendar of Wills does not have a will for John B. Carberry in > 1728. However, there was an inventory of his estate 19 Nov. 1728 & 6 Je. > 1729, Mr. John Baptis CARBERY, 14.182. Next of kin Nicholas MILLS & Eleanor > CARBERY, administrators Mrs. Elisabeth CARBERY & John Baptis CARBERY. >> >> Somewhere along the line of owners of the property, there might have been > an abstract showing all of the prior owners. >> >> --not my family >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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