It is also a very good idea to stop applying today's "sense" to standards and definitions of 300 to 350 years ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Edward Barber > Luke who died in 1674 left son Edward Lukeland. So Edward > who dies in 1694 > (married to Cibbell) must have had "unborn child" Luke who > died in 1739 left > Luckland to Cornelius and Edward. Edward who died in > 1769 left Luckland to > son Barnet - this lineage I can understand. > Luke-Edward-Luke-Edward-Barnet > > So Luke was born 1694 or after. Below, Andrew Norton in > 1712 has brother in > law Luke through his marriage to a White. He appoints him > as backup to take > care of his 7 yr old son and has him witness his will. If > it was this > Edward's son Luke he would be barely 18 yrs old. It makes > more sense that > the Luke who is his brother in law is Luke, eldest son of > Dr Luke the > immigrant who married the White. > > > Norton., Andrew, planter, Charles County, 10th Aug., 1712; > formerly of Fairfield Stope Parish, So. Britain, 1st Aug., > 1717. > To son Cornelius, ex., and hrs., all estate lying in > Fairfield afsd. > purchased of one Burk by testator's father and coveyed by > him to testator, > the conveyances being left in hands of kinsman Wm. > Morwood, of Burbige > Green, near Buxton, in Darbyshire, also residue of estate, > real and > personal, in South Britain, Maryland, or elsewhere, and > personalty. > To Anne Cope and goddaughter Ann, dau. of Rebecca Duplex, > personalty. > Test. appoints father-in-law Cornelius White, gent., of > Charles County, > guardian and trustee for son during minority, he being 7 > yrs. old 2nd of > Feb. last. In case of decease of sd. guardian, test. > appoints his > brother-in-law, Luke Barber, to act in his place. > Test. describes himself as eld. son and heir of Andrew > Norton, Sr., yeoman, > of Fairfield afsd.., and states that it has been 13 yrs. > since his leaving > Cheshire and arrival in this province. He directs that he > be buried in the > garden of his dwel. place, as near as may be to his late > wife. > Test: Rich. Jenkin, Charles Jones, Rebecca Duplex, Luke > Barber, 14. 500. > Note-In probate on this will Rebecca Duplex has become > Rebecca Cumberbitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Linda Reno > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:54 AM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Edward Barber > > Luke Barber m. Rebecca White and their son was Edward > White Barber. He died > > in 1770. > > Will of Edward Barber, SMC 6/9/1769-2/2/1770. Son: > Barnet, plantation I now > > live on being pt. of "Luckland" and several slaves. > Daughter: Price Barber, > > 200 lbs. to be raised out of my estate in the non-age of > children and > several slaves. Son: Luke, pt. of "Westham" which I > bought of Henry Green; > a bond for 330 lbs. sterling money from brother Cornelius > provided brother > Cornelius will convey to sd. son Luke the half tract > bought of Thomas > Hungerford in Charles Co. Slaves, etc. to be equally > divided among 3 > aforementioned children. Execs: Brother, Cornelius Barber > and son, Barnet. > Wit: Thomas Barber, Thomas Allen, Henry Morris. (Maryland > Calendar of > Wills). > > Linda Reno > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> > To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:59 PM > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Edward Barber > > >>I sat down and charted the various lines from Dr Luke >>Barber and wondered >>if >> someone has proof about Edward Barber, son of Edward who >> married Cibbell. >> >> >> >> I know that online people have him listed as marrying >> Sarah Myvert but >> when >> I charted it all out based on wills, etc that Edward who >> died in 1764 and >> married Sarah came out to be son of Luke and Rebecca and >> brother to >> Baptist, >> Cornelius and Dorothy Greenfield. >> >> >> >> Edward, brother of Luke (who married Rebecca) must have >> been mentioned in >> Luke's 1739 will because I made a note that he must have >> died after 1739. >> >> >> >> Has anyone ever found an inventory for him or will? Any >> proof of children? >> There is also a Thomas Barber listed on records after >> 1743 at a time when >> Thomas, son of Thomas had died that I have no knowledge >> of so I'm assuming >> he must be a son of this Edward? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message
Sorry. There is nothing in the archives discussing Andrew Norton and this issue. There is a June 30, 2007 thread where Linda Reno wrote "Edward Barber and Rebecca White had a son named Edward White Barber". Below is Andrew Norton and a Luke Barber. I'm sorry that my application of logic seems to have upset people. It is more helpful to give concrete evidence of why something that appears illogical is correct than to attack someone's logical observation. What I "sense" is this list isn't receptive to questions. Sorry I asked -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norma Lundgren Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:19 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Edward Barber It is also a very good idea to stop applying today's "sense" to standards and definitions of 300 to 350 years ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Edward Barber > Luke who died in 1674 left son Edward Lukeland. So Edward > who dies in 1694 > (married to Cibbell) must have had "unborn child" Luke who > died in 1739 left > Luckland to Cornelius and Edward. Edward who died in > 1769 left Luckland to > son Barnet - this lineage I can understand. > Luke-Edward-Luke-Edward-Barnet > > So Luke was born 1694 or after. Below, Andrew Norton in > 1712 has brother in > law Luke through his marriage to a White. He appoints him > as backup to take > care of his 7 yr old son and has him witness his will. If > it was this > Edward's son Luke he would be barely 18 yrs old. It makes > more sense that > the Luke who is his brother in law is Luke, eldest son of > Dr Luke the > immigrant who married the White. > > > Norton., Andrew, planter, Charles County, 10th Aug., 1712; > formerly of Fairfield Stope Parish, So. Britain, 1st Aug., > 1717. > To son Cornelius, ex., and hrs., all estate lying in > Fairfield afsd. > purchased of one Burk by testator's father and coveyed by > him to testator, > the conveyances being left in hands of kinsman Wm. > Morwood, of Burbige > Green, near Buxton, in Darbyshire, also residue of estate, > real and > personal, in South Britain, Maryland, or elsewhere, and > personalty. > To Anne Cope and goddaughter Ann, dau. of Rebecca Duplex, > personalty. > Test. appoints father-in-law Cornelius White, gent., of > Charles County, > guardian and trustee for son during minority, he being 7 > yrs. old 2nd of > Feb. last. In case of decease of sd. guardian, test. > appoints his > brother-in-law, Luke Barber, to act in his place. > Test. describes himself as eld. son and heir of Andrew > Norton, Sr., yeoman, > of Fairfield afsd.., and states that it has been 13 yrs. > since his leaving > Cheshire and arrival in this province. He directs that he > be buried in the > garden of his dwel. place, as near as may be to his late > wife. > Test: Rich. Jenkin, Charles Jones, Rebecca Duplex, Luke > Barber, 14. 500. > Note-In probate on this will Rebecca Duplex has become > Rebecca Cumberbitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Linda Reno > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:54 AM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Edward Barber > > Luke Barber m. Rebecca White and their son was Edward > White Barber. He died > > in 1770. > > Will of Edward Barber, SMC 6/9/1769-2/2/1770. Son: > Barnet, plantation I now > > live on being pt. of "Luckland" and several slaves. > Daughter: Price Barber, > > 200 lbs. to be raised out of my estate in the non-age of > children and > several slaves. Son: Luke, pt. of "Westham" which I > bought of Henry Green; > a bond for 330 lbs. sterling money from brother Cornelius > provided brother > Cornelius will convey to sd. son Luke the half tract > bought of Thomas > Hungerford in Charles Co. Slaves, etc. to be equally > divided among 3 > aforementioned children. Execs: Brother, Cornelius Barber > and son, Barnet. > Wit: Thomas Barber, Thomas Allen, Henry Morris. (Maryland > Calendar of > Wills). > > Linda Reno > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> > To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:59 PM > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Edward Barber > > >>I sat down and charted the various lines from Dr Luke >>Barber and wondered >>if >> someone has proof about Edward Barber, son of Edward who >> married Cibbell. >> >> >> >> I know that online people have him listed as marrying >> Sarah Myvert but >> when >> I charted it all out based on wills, etc that Edward who >> died in 1764 and >> married Sarah came out to be son of Luke and Rebecca and >> brother to >> Baptist, >> Cornelius and Dorothy Greenfield. >> >> >> >> Edward, brother of Luke (who married Rebecca) must have >> been mentioned in >> Luke's 1739 will because I made a note that he must have >> died after 1739. >> >> >> >> Has anyone ever found an inventory for him or will? Any >> proof of children? >> There is also a Thomas Barber listed on records after >> 1743 at a time when >> Thomas, son of Thomas had died that I have no knowledge >> of so I'm assuming >> he must be a son of this Edward? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It is also a very good idea to stop applying today's "sense" to standards and definitions of 300 to 350 years ago. ============================================= Or even fifty years ago! R/ DEC405