Baptismal gifts from a godfather. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >I don't know how to make this clearer than doing the simple >math. > > Your hypothesis - there is one Robert with children John, > Mary, Robert and > Thomas: > > You said he had: > > John Clarke born abt 1642 > Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 > Robert Clarke born March 1652, > Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. > > In addition to the record about Thomas gifting to a wife, > I pointed out the > following: > > In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter > John and Mary > witnessed by Thomas Greene. > > According to your approach of only one each of these > Clarkes, he made these > gifts to John at 5 yrs old and Mary at 3/4 yrs old (ie: > from John's birth in > 1642 to the year 1647 is 5 yrs) > > I just don't think these recorded gifts to these small > children are > plausible. For one thing they would not have the legal > capacity to ever > transfer them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:39 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > I have not followed your conversations on this, or how > this would change > anything, but perhaps you have not made your point clear. > > I think it just a matter of understanding the time line of > events. > > > Here is will of Edward Barber, notice he says his sister > was Ann Clarke and > Thomas Clarke was one of the Overseers of his will. > > Ann Barber died shortly after this, because Thomas Clarke > remarried to > Julian MUDD I believe abt 1696. Thomas Clarke died 1711, > Julian MUDD then > remarried to Mathew Guibert. > > > > Will of Edward Barber, SMC 3/2/1693-5/21/1694. Wife: > Cibbil, plantation and > 200 ac. during life; to revert to son, Edward. Daughter: > Mary, 1/2 of > certain land. To: Unborn child, residue of sd. tract and > 200 ac. near > Bird's Creek. Brother: Thomas, rights in 300 ac. "Pt. of > Mitcham Hills" and > 200 ac. near Bird's Creek, formerly belonging to John > Barecroft. Cousin: > Thomas Nichols, and to Adam Clarke and heirs, rights of > 200 ac. To: > Children afsd. residue of land equally. Godsons: James > Morris and John > Branson; and Mary and Martha Williamson, daughters of > Samuel Williamson, > personal estate. In event of death of children afsd. > without issue the > children of sister Elizabeth Guibert to be co-heirs with > brother Thomas > afsd. and in event of death of Thomas afsd. without issue, > sister Mary > Nichols and Ann Clarke to be co-heirs. Wife: Cibbil > (Exec.) residuary > legatee. Overseers: Thomas Clarke, Thomas Barber. Wit: > Samuel Williamson, > Stephen Cawood, William Dutch. > > > > The reason we say Julian Mudd married Thomas CLARKE abt > 1696 is because that > is date of her father's will which he states his daughter > is Julian CLARK, > and his son in law was Thomas Clarke. There is also a > later Lawsuit > involving Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) and the children of > Thomas CLARKE > from his 1st wife Ann BARBER. The same children are listed > in lawsuit of the > Thomas Clarke who died 1711. Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) > was the step mom > to most of his children and with her new husband tried to > take away the > inheritance from the children of Thomas Clarke from 1st > wife Ann BARBER. > > Maryland Calendar of Wills: Volume 2 VOLUME II. page 121 > Mudd, Thomas,Chas. > Co., 12th Oct., 1696; > 11th Mch., 1696-7. To wife Ann, Hall's Place during life. > To son Thomas, sd. > plantation at decease of wife and land in dispute bet. > testator and Maj. > Boreman; also 650 A., Brierwood. To son Henry, Boreman's > Reserve. To son > George, 400 A., part of Cannarvan, bought of Capt. Jos. > Pile. To son John, > 180 A., St. Catherino's, bought of Edmond Nugent, and 250 > A., residue of > Cannarvan afsd. In event of death of any son or sons > without issue, lands to > pass in natural succession to male hrs. To dau. Julian > Clarke and hrs., 120 > A., Jarvis. To dau. Barbara and hrs., 200 A., Mudd's Rest. > Sons Henry and > George to be taken in charge by their brother-in-law, > Thomas Clarke. [p.121] > Wife Ann and son Thomas afsd. joint exs. Residue of estate > tobe divided > among wife and child., viz., Thomas, Henry, George, John, > Barbara, Sarah, > Jane, and Ann Mudd. Child. to be of age at 18 yrs. > Overseers: Son Thomas > Clarke and brother William Boarman. Test: Wm. Howell, Wm. > Burman, Jno. > Brookes. 7. 265. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rubyslippers > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before > about the gifts from > the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the > age of the Robert > and John making sales, etc etc > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message