Hi Randy, Thank you so much for the information. And a special thank you for Capt. William Wathen, we're researching him also. I'm aware of John sailing on the "Francis and Mary" from Bristol, his indenture to Hugh Thomas, etc. I believe I'm descended from John, John and Ignatius then down the line. Given that Hugh Thomas was from Llanmadoc, Glarmorgan, Wales, I am hoping that John may have been from that area as well. Two reasons for my thinking.....the geographical location of Hugh's birthplace and the fact that Glamorgan stayed very heavily Roman Catholic in spite of efforts by the Church of England to make it otherwise. My question is, where did John come from? Wales, England or where? The other geography I'm looking at is that Llanmadoc is very near Swansea at the mouth of the Bristol Channel. Taking shots in the dark for now, but hoping to find more on John. bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Dunavan" <jeep71@att.net> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Hugh THOMAS Bill, Have some "SHARED" notes & Linage on that............ Better have, since I decend from a Wathen/Jarboe union Here it is... Most likely NOT the son of Sir John Wathen.... John Wathen, a carpenter, came to America on 9-10-1670 from Bristol, England on the ship Francis & Mary. As the indentured servant of Hugh Thomas for 3 yrs. ref: Servants to Foreign Plantations Vo. II:191 (Bristol was an embarkation town] ***** Key: Servant Last Name, Servant First Name, Servant Origination, Servant Occupation, Port of Departure, Ship Name, Ship Date, Indentured by Last Name, Indentured by First Name, Identured by Origination, Indentured by Occupation Chronicle of Barbados - Bristol Servants - List of Servants in Barbados April 9 1655 Wathen James shoemaker November 15 1655 Wathen James cordwainer June 22 1659 Wathen James **** In April 1671 John built for Nicholas Grosse a house 15' long and 10' wide and made on bedstead and performed other work. John's master, Hugh Thomas, went to court in Charles Co., Md to collect a debt of 500lbs of tobacco from Nicholas Grosse for this work performed by his servant John Wathen. The court found for Hugh Thomas, ordering that he be 350lbs of tobacco plus costs of 240lbs of tobacco. ref: Records of Charles Co., Md 1671-1674 in Archive of MD 60:354-355. After completion of 3yrs. service, he became a free Man. John Wathen demands right for land due to him for his servitude within this province according to conditions of plantation now in force which right the 4th day of May was proved. May 12, 1674.....Warrant then issued in the name of said John Wathen of St. Mary's Co., Md for 50 acres of land due for the consideration above said. (L 18, f.16) July 29 11676 John bough acreage in St.Thomas Manor, in Charles Co., Md A document at the Bristol, England Record Office: A Rought Volume of Apprenticeship Entries. This lists the name of 3 servants bound to John Wathen dated 10-16-1684: Christoper Gwynn of Abby Door in County Herford, to John Wathen for 4 yrs in Maryland, ship Comport. Thomas Williams of Dowchurch to the same 4 yrs, same ship. James Williams of the same 4yrs, same ship. John did not claim the 200 acres due him until Feb. 10 1701 for the passage of the above men. This he took in Charles Co., Md and called it Wathen Adventure. "Held of Zachia Manor", this began at a marked black oak of Mathew'Purchase near Port Tobacco Road. John Wathen purchased Wythe's Adventure in July 1702, (Patents, DD#5, f. 106; CD, f. 94} The year 1788 marked the beginning of a period of accelerated settlement in KY, and the population of Cartwright Creek Grew rapidly. By the spring of 1789 Thomas Hill had purchased and settled on the land there. Other who Joined him to become patriarchs of the settlement included: John Thomas Jarboe and wife Dolly Hill, Henry, Stephen, Benjamin, and Arnold Jarboe. Joseph Harding, Planter 16xx - 1685 Joseph Harding, the progenitor of his family in St. Mary County, settled in the Province of Maryland prior to May 22, 1668, as shown by the following claims of William Wathen for land rights by rights of transporting settlers to the Province . "Came William Wathen of Bristoll. and proved as followeth Know all men by these Presents that I William Wathen master of the Ship Providence of Bristoll for a Valuable Consideration to me paid by Daniel Jenifer of St. Maries in the County of St. Maries in the Province of Maryland, Gent., doe assigne unto the said Daniel Jenifer all my right, title interest, claime, and demand of in and to the right of land due to me by Virtue of the Condition of Plantacon of the right Honble the Lord Propy of the said Province for transporting Barbary Jones, John Vincent, William Howell, Margaret Thomas, Ann Morris, George Read, Jenkins ???????? and Joseph Harding in all eight persons to the only use and benefit of him the said Daniel his Heirs and assignes for ever. Witness my hand the xxii day of May in the xxxvi year of his Lordships Dominion Anno Domini MDCLXVII." (signed) Wm Wathen Signed & delivered in the presence of John Bloomfield. Randy: I came across some archived emails from you regarding the Wathen line in St. Mary's County, MD. Following is an extract from some research done on my line (Harding). this is possibly the beginning of the Wathens in SMC. Thought you might be interested. do you have any further info on William Wathen? Gene McLaughlin (Graves, Harding, Dick, Buckler, Barnes, Conyers Henning, Alvey, Jones, ) **************************************** Joseph Harding, the progenitor of his family in St. Mary County, settled in the Province of Maryland prior to May 22, 1668, as shown by the following claims of William Wathen for land rights by rights of transporting settlers to the Province . "Came William Wathen of Bristoll. and proved as followeth Know all men by these Presents that I William Wathen master of the Ship Providence of Bristoll for a Valuable Consideration to me paid by Daniel Jenifer of St. Maries in the County of St. Maries in the Province of Maryland, Gent., doe assigne unto the said Daniel Jenifer all my right, title interest, claime, and demand of in and to the right of land due to me by Virtue of the Condition of Plantacon of the right Honble the Lord Propy of the said Province for transporting Barbary Jones, John Vincent, William Howell, Margaret Thomas, Ann Morris, George Read, Jenkins -------- and Joseph Harding in all eight persons to the only use and benefit of him the said Daniel his heires and assignes for ever. Witness my hand the xxii day of May in the xxxvi year of his Lordships Dominion Anno Domini MDCLXVII." (signed) Wm Wathen Signed & delivered in the presence of John Bloomfield. [98_Dunavan_Dec.FTW] The year 1788 marked the beginning of a period of accelerated settlement in KY, and the population of Cartwright Creek Grew rapidly. By the spring of1789 Thomas Hill had purchased and settled on the land there. Other who Joined him to become patriarchs of the settlement included: John Jarboe and Wife Dolly Hill Henry, Stephen, Benjamin and Arnold Jarboe. Randy Dunavan Longview, Texas 903-720-3914 ________________________________ From: bill waathen <bwathen@cfl.rr.com> To: MDSTMARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:48:42 AM Subject: [MDSTMARY] Hugh THOMAS Dear list, I'm looking for background on Hugh THOMAS, who settled near Port Tobacco in the 1600s. My believed direct ancestor, John WATHEN, was indentured to Hugh. Because I know nothing about John prior to his arrival at Port Tobacco, 1670, I'm in hopes that there may be some information about John that might be contained in Hugh's background, i.e., how did Hugh find John and where? 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