The John Clarke who was father of Gilbert CLARK is not the same John Clarke who was son of Robert Clarke the Surveyor. Robert Clarke the Surveyor's third wife was Jane Hicks(Cockshoot) Causine, she was born abt 1612,, and died abt 1662 two years before Robert Clarke the Surveyor made out his will. I can send you details about Gilbert Clarke who also had a brother named Thomas Clarke not the same one who was married to Ann Barber and Julian MUDD. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:41 AM To: 'Norma Lundgren'; mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants Thank you Norma - I searched for MDstmary-L archives but couldn't find anything. Can you point me to it or explain? I found the gift on the transcriptions at genealogy.com. Did someone pull the original and it was suppose to be reversed - as in gift from Robert to wife Jane with witness of a Thomas? But I did find this about a Gilbert born 1654-1659. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MDSTMARY/2002-01/1011867332 Obviously not born to a John born 1642 - to make this clear - John would have been 12 yrs old. I think this also explains the transactions I was questioning as to who the parties were: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mrmarsha&id=I02186 I note his land was in St. Lawrence - Clarkes Purchase and Clarks Marsh It doesn't explain two immigrations for Robert Clarkes a year apart. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norma Lundgren Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:35 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants If you would search the Maryland Archives, you would see that the name "Thomas" in that abstract is a mis-read/mis-write of the abstractor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before >about the gifts from > the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the > age of the Robert > and John making sales, etc etc > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 AM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very > Carefully. > > He was married three times. > > 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 > this John Clarke > married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 who > I have married to > John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might > have been an > Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) > > > Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) > wether or not > Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name we > don't know for > sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March > 1652, and Thomas > Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This > Winifred had been > previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. > > Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann > Barber, and 2nd to > Julian MUDD. > > Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife > Ann Barber, as was > Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner > > > It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah > COMBS daughter of > Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married > Sarah COMBS(some > would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for their > DNA on this > Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely going > to prove once and > for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. > > > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks > (COCKSHOOT) (CAUSIN) > > By third wife he had no children they were married abt > 1656 and Robert > Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. > > All of this is very well documented. > > Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas > Causin, and third > to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rubyslippers > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM > To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and > information online he > married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred > Seybourne (has anyone > determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife > was named in the > will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born 1653, > Thomas born 1654 > and Mary. > > > > In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter > John and Mary > witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave > bond to Henry > Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me unlikely > that these are > the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one > would only be 5 yrs > old. > > > > In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed > by a Robert > Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs > old so this has to > be from a different Clarke family. > > > > In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales > witnessed by Ignatius > Causine. > > > > I don't see all of these people as coming from one > immigrant above. > > > > Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I > think he was a > cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about > 1650. I find it > hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son > mentioned in the will > of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to > have been born in > 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. > Thomas Clarke who > had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by > Adam Clarke. > > > > In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his > brother was Thomas > and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is > that Robert Clarke > that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane > were brothers. > Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert > Clarke of this > generation? > > > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message