I attempted to answer a person on this list, but my e-mail was blocked & returned by his/her security. I'm taking the liberty of posting part of his/her e-mail to the list. I had asked if he/she could do it; since I can't ask directly, I'll just post because I think this answer is VERY important. It should help any of us on the list searching for historical sites in Maryland - statewide, not just in St. Mary's. > The nomination reports are available on the MD Historical Trust web site - > > http://www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net/mihp-search.html Here is what this person had to say about St. Richard's. It seems to indicate that St. Richard's MIGHT BE a bit older than the "early 18th century" date listed in the Maryland Historical Trust's book. "Early 18th century" is a somewhat vague time period ... but all dating of these early buildings are really vague UNLESS you get into this question posed by the writer >>> especially any dendrochronology studies? <<<<<< Any comments ?? Thanks ! David > > From what I've read of this report, St. Richard's Manor was dated late > 1600's through about the first quarter of the 1700's. The date range given > in the report varies somewhat in different parts of the report, but it reads to me like it was based primarily on the style of the architecture. > I'm curious, do you know if anyone has done any recent archaeological > investigation into any of the old manor houses in St. Mary's, especially any dendrochronology studies?

Davd, thank you again!? I was able to access information on St. Richard's that I'd not been able to access previously.? This was very helpful. Mur -----Original Message----- From: David Roberts <droberts@olg.com> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 3:48 am Subject: [MDSTMARY] Maryland Historical Trust + St. Richard's Manor I attempted to answer a person on this list, but my e-mail was blocked & returned by his/her security. I'm taking the liberty of posting part of his/her e-mail to the list. I had asked if he/she could do it; since I can't ask directly, I'll just post because I think this answer is VERY important. It should help any of us on the list searching for historical sites in Maryland - statewide, not just in St. Mary's. > The nomination reports are available on the MD Historical Trust web site - > > http://www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net/mihp-search.html Here is what this person had to say about St. Richard's. It seems to indicate that St. Richard's MIGHT BE a bit older than the "early 18th century" date listed in the Maryland Historical Trust's book. "Early 18th century" is a somewhat vague time period ... but all dating of these early buildings are really vague UNLESS you get into this question posed by the writer >>> especially any dendrochronology studies? <<<<<< Any comments ?? Thanks ! David > > From what I've read of this report, St. Richard's Manor was dated late > 1600's through about the first quarter of the 1700's. The date range given > in the report varies somewhat in different parts of the report, but it reads to me like it was based primarily on the style of the architecture. > I'm curious, do you know if anyone has done any recent archaeological > investigation into any of the old manor houses in St. Mary's, especially any dendrochronology studies? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

List- I have found two books that have catalogued MD homes and historic sites with brief descriptions and locations. I would guess they would be somewhat of an authority as opposed to genealogical sources? There are pictures, sometimes of interior features. Foreman, H. Chandlee. Early Manor Plantation Houses of Maryland. Bodine & Associates, Inc. Baltimore. 1934, 1982. ( I don't have the page with St. Richard's copied) Inventory of Historic Sites in Calvert County Charles County and St. Mary's County. Maryland Historical Trust. Annapolis, Maryland. 1973, 1980. p114. St. Richards (pictured) is listed as early 18th century due to brick laid in "Flemish bond...The north facade is five bays in length with the existing windows being a slight alteration of the originals both in height and width, the south facade is three bays wide. One of the most distinctive exterior features of the house is the glazed cheering of the end elevations... mur10195@aol.com wrote: Davd, thank you again!? I was able to access information on St. Richard's that I'd not been able to access previously.? This was very helpful. Mur -----Original Message----- From: David Roberts To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 3:48 am Subject: [MDSTMARY] Maryland Historical Trust + St. Richard's Manor I attempted to answer a person on this list, but my e-mail was blocked & returned by his/her security. I'm taking the liberty of posting part of his/her e-mail to the list. I had asked if he/she could do it; since I can't ask directly, I'll just post because I think this answer is VERY important. It should help any of us on the list searching for historical sites in Maryland - statewide, not just in St. Mary's. > The nomination reports are available on the MD Historical Trust web site - > > http://www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net/mihp-search.html Here is what this person had to say about St. Richard's. It seems to indicate that St. Richard's MIGHT BE a bit older than the "early 18th century" date listed in the Maryland Historical Trust's book. "Early 18th century" is a somewhat vague time period ... but all dating of these early buildings are really vague UNLESS you get into this question posed by the writer >>> especially any dendrochronology studies? <<<<<< Any comments ?? Thanks ! David > > From what I've read of this report, St. Richard's Manor was dated late > 1600's through about the first quarter of the 1700's. The date range given > in the report varies somewhat in different parts of the report, but it reads to me like it was based primarily on the style of the architecture. > I'm curious, do you know if anyone has done any recent archaeological > investigation into any of the old manor houses in St. Mary's, especially any dendrochronology studies? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message < , |/ < ' /| Kat Woodring

Kat & the List: Foreman is the great archaeologist of the 1930s. He did much of the early work at St. Mary's City. Although much of his work is now dated & replaced by the post 1970s work done by the archaeologists at Historic St. Mary's City, Foreman was the first serious archaeologist to study St. Mary's. Much of his work was done before more modern scientific techniques became available. He is the "foundation" upon which more modern research is built. A lot of his stuff is wrong by 2008 eyes, but our 2008 stuff will be wrong in 2068, when that generation studies & re-studies the evidence. That's important to remember. History CHANGES and SO DOES genealogy. Remember we ALL descended, at one time, from one of those 3 brothers .... one who went NORTH {guess that's me !}, one who went SOUTH {guess that's you people !} and one who went WEST {the Kentucky folks ? :o) } The Inventory {both editions} was a book I worked on when I was member & some-time chairman of the St. Mary's County Committee, Maryland Historical Trust. A lot of work went into that book ... and a lot of grief, too. When that house built in 1636 was shown to have been built ca. 1760, you know what hit the fan ! Law suits were threatened; but none were ever filed. I'm sure a 2008 edition of that Inventory would show changes in research, too. A few places have been shown to be actually OLDER than previously claimed. The best example is St. Francis Xavier R. C. Church at Newtown Neck. It was shown by dendrochronology to be about 30/35 years OLDER than previously thought. Some of these "tourist" claims are pure bonus &/or sloppy history. The"Old Jail" in Leonardtown was NOT built in 1858. That Jail was torn down ca. 1875/1876. The demolition of the 1858 Jail is reported in the "St. Mary's Beacon" & so was the construction of the present Jail in the mid-1870s. The "tourist" claimed date of 1858 was accepted by the Underground Railroad national commission & the mid-1870s Jail is on the Underground Railroad Trail. You can go see where pre-Civil War runaways were kept in a mid-1870s Jail. Well, maybe .............. I guess they had a "time machine" ? Anyway, both of the sources Kat mentioned are worth looking at. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Woodring" <katwoodring@yahoo.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Maryland Historical Trust + St. Richard's Manor > List- > > I have found two books that have catalogued MD homes and historic sites with brief descriptions and locations. I would guess they would be somewhat of an authority as opposed to genealogical sources? There are pictures, sometimes of interior features. > > Foreman, H. Chandlee. Early Manor Plantation Houses of Maryland. Bodine & Associates, Inc. Baltimore. 1934, 1982. ( I don't have the page with St. Richard's copied) > > Inventory of Historic Sites in Calvert County Charles County and St. Mary's County. Maryland Historical Trust. Annapolis, Maryland. 1973, 1980. > > p114. > St. Richards (pictured) is listed as early 18th century due to brick laid in "Flemish bond...The north facade is five bays in length with the existing windows being a slight alteration of the originals both in height and width, the south facade is three bays wide. One of the most distinctive exterior features of the house is the glazed cheering of the end elevations... > > > mur10195@aol.com wrote: > Davd, thank you again!? I was able to access information on St. Richard's that I'd not been able to access previously.? This was very helpful. > Mur > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Roberts > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 3:48 am > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Maryland Historical Trust + St. Richard's Manor > > > > I attempted to answer a person on this list, but my e-mail was blocked & > returned by his/her security. > I'm taking the liberty of posting part of his/her e-mail to the list. I had > asked if he/she could do it; since I can't ask directly, I'll just post because > I think this answer is VERY important. It should help any of us on the list > searching for historical sites in Maryland - statewide, not just in St. Mary's. > > > > The nomination reports are available on the MD Historical Trust web site - > > > > http://www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net/mihp-search.html > > > Here is what this person had to say about St. Richard's. It seems to indicate > that St. Richard's MIGHT BE a bit older than the "early 18th century" date > listed in the Maryland Historical Trust's book. "Early 18th century" is a > somewhat vague time period ... but all dating of these early buildings are > really vague UNLESS you get into this question posed by the writer >>> > especially any dendrochronology studies? <<<<<< > > Any comments ?? > Thanks ! > David > > > > > From what I've read of this report, St. Richard's Manor was dated late > > 1600's through about the first quarter of the 1700's. The date range given > > in the report varies somewhat in different parts of the report, but it > reads to me like it was based primarily on the style of the architecture. > > > I'm curious, do you know if anyone has done any recent archaeological > > investigation into any of the old manor houses in St. Mary's, especially > any dendrochronology studies? > > < , |/ > < ' /| > > Kat Woodring >