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    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher?
    2. Jerry L. Clark
    3. Linda Reno, I think we are disagreeing that Mary USHER daughter of Thomas USHER married John Abell, because you state the land transaction was in 1714, but it looks like to me the land Transaction was in 1734- 20 years later, because Thomas Usher is already dead. So is there more than one daughter named Mary USHER because record below does say Mary wife of John ABELL. And it does state land that was left to Mary and her brother George from her her father, (who died in 1714. ) And is there another John Abell that married Mary USHER. Perhaps not the same one who married ? FISHER. I guess I don't understand because in will he states Dau. MARY & son, George 100 acres Will of THOMAS USHER Kent Co., Md. 1/17/1714 L14: To son, John, dau. Elizabeth, Jean, Sarah all given land where John Pickett lives. Dau. MARY & son, George 100 acres where Oliver Mitchell lives with plantation. Son, Thomas 1/2 gist mill head of Pruckell Pair Creek. Youngest child recently born & not yet christened. To wife, ELIZABETH as exec., given plantation & 1/2 gist mill. Witnesses T. Swynely, Joseph Langley and Dennis Sullivan. What Is the date of this Document below it looks like 1734. Because then in Land record he states: which Thomas Usher left to his son, George & his dau. MARY, WIFE OF JOHN ABELL who sold her 55 acres to Thomas Morsoll. Accts 37a f107 1715 Kent Co., Md. Elizabeth Usher, exec for Thomas Usher, late of Kent Co., Md. PATENTS E.I.#1 f363-365 Kent Co., Md. Land in Kent Co. which Thomas Usher left to his son, George & his dau. MARY, WIFE OF JOHN ABELL who sold her 55 acres to Thomas Morsoll. PATENTS: Kent Co., Md. Thomas Usher 1705: Usher's Lott, The Neglect. 1735 (George Usher) Usher's Pt./Killinsworthmore. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Reno Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:36 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? I disagree. There was no marriage to Mary Usher. John Abell was married to a daughter of Edward Fisher. Her first name is not known. 1/13/1712: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. NOK: John Abell and Thomas Beatson. 5/13/1714: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. Payments to: John Abell for his wife (unnamed, a child's part); Thomas Batson for his wife (unnamed, a child's part), Adm., Wm. Thompson (Skinner). The estate was paid by John Taylor. The estate made payments to (in addition to the children): David Watson, Mr. Henry Lowe, and Thomas Price. My note to the list, 1/2004: There are those who claim that Mary Usher, daughter of Thomas Usher, was the wife of John Abell based on a land record which named Mary, wife of John Abell, in 1715. This won't work as Mary was named as a minor in her father's will in 1714. She was not old enough to have married John Abell and have had 3 children by 1715. The wife of John Abell of SMC was ____ FISHER, daughter of Edward Fisher. PATENTS E.I.#1 f363-365 1734 Kent Co., Md. Land in Kent Co. which Thomas Usher left to his son, George & his dau. MARY, WIFE OF JOHN ABELL who sold her 55 acres to Thomas Morsoll. (Note to me from Tom Jennings, 1/17/2004). Linda Reno ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Woodring" <katwoodring@yahoo.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? > Thanks, Jerry! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry L. Clark <jerry876@comcast.net> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 5:39 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? > > John Abell Sr married first to unknown Fisher, second possibly to Mary > Usher, third to Frances Wilkinson bef 16 Dec 1735 SMC. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of K. Woodring > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:30 PM > To: jking71@gmail.com; mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? > > Did anyone figure out which is the correct name for Mary w/o John Abell d. > 1746? > Is it just a transcript error or anothr John Abell? > > I had her as Mary Usher, dau. of Thomas Usher d. Bef 14 Jan 1814 in Kent > County. MCW Vol IV, p28. > Pat EI#1, f363-363 "wife of John Abell" and m. 10 Nov 1703 (no source- > poss > Kent Co?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:28 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Edward Abell > > Jerry - > > I have Samuel Abell (b. 1710 - d. 1795) also married to a Susanna > Spalding - but I carry him as the son of John Abell m. to FNU Fisher... > > ..I believe John's wife was the daughter of Edward Fisher although she was > unnamed in his will. Others I note call her an Usher. > >>> Edward Fisher Accts, 368,75 5/13/1714 >>> John Abell for his unnamed wife, a child's part >>> Thomas Batson for his unnamed wife, a child's part >>> payments to David Watson, John Abell, Henry Lowe, Thomas Price. >>> Admin. William Thompson. >>> >>> Inv. of Edward Fisher 33b.143 1/13/1712 >>> kin: John Abell, Thomas Batson >>> Thomas Batson 21.30 7/24/1735 Inv. >>> Ref: FTM CD6 >>> ** ** >>> *Descendants of Dau. Fisher >>> * >>> >>> 1 Dau. Fisher d: Aft. 1714 >>> >>> .. +John Abell b: Abt. 1680 d: October 1746 >>> >>> ........ 2 Samuel Abell, Sr. b: Abt. 1710 in St. Marys Co., Md. d: 1795 > in >>> Ky., Washington Co. >>> >>> ............ +Susanna Spalding b: in St. Marys Co., Md. d: Bet. 1775 - >>> >> 1790 >> >>> in Ky. >>> >>> ........ 2 John Abell, Sr. b: Abt. 1711 d: August 05, 1794 in St. Marys >>> Co., >>> Md. >>> >>> ............ +Jane Raley b: Abt. 1731 d: Aft. 1765 >>> >>> ........ 2 Enoch Abell b: Abt. 1714 d: March 17, 1784 in St. Marys >>> >>> ............ +Judah Booth m: Abt. 1740 b: Abt. 1723 d: 1784 in St. Marys >>> Co. >>> >>> ........ 2 Edward Abell, Sr. b: Abt. 1715 in St. Marys Co., Md. d: Aft. >>> 1770 >>> in St. Marys Co., Md. >>> >>> ............ +Elizabeth Horn m: Bef. 1748 >>> >>> ........ 2 Cuthbert Abell b: Abt. 1720 d: Bet. 1785 - 1786 in St. Marys >>> >>> ............ +Mary Clarke b: Bef. 1733 d: Aft. 1783 >>> Tom Jennings >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Jerry L. Clark <jerry876@comcast.net >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Linda Reno, >>>> >>>> Who does this Edward Abell belong to that married ? HORN? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> v. HORN, b. Bef. 1733, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1748; m. EDWARD >>>> >> ABELL, >> >>>> Bef. 1748, St. Mary's Co., MD; b. 1715, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. >>>> >> 1748. >> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/06/2009 02:55:59
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher?
    2. Thomas Jennings
    3. Linda, I nhad not reviewed Ancestry.com for Usher recently but today I found at least 15 entries on Mary Usher. All had the same. I don't know where they got the marriage and deatrh dates or if they are just approx. and copied down the line. Ancesty.com: Della Carpenter (Owner: johnsonalice) Mary Usher Birth -1695 Kent,,Maryland, - 1734 Age: 39 Death 1710 Age: 15 Marriage to John Abell ,Saint Marys,Maryland, Spouse & Children John Abell 1680 - 1746 Samuel Abell 1710 – 1795 John Abell 1711 – 1794 Enoch Abell 1714 – 1784 Edward Abell 1715 – 1760 Cuthbert Abell Tom On 4/6/09, Jerry L. Clark <jerry876@comcast.net> wrote: > > Linda Reno, > > > I think we are disagreeing that Mary USHER daughter of Thomas > USHER married > John Abell, because you state the land transaction was in 1714, but it > looks > like to me the land Transaction was in 1734- 20 years later, because Thomas > Usher is already dead. > > > So is there more than one daughter named Mary USHER because record below > does say Mary wife of John ABELL. And it does state land that was left to > Mary and her brother George from her her father, (who died in 1714. ) > > And is there another John Abell that married Mary USHER. Perhaps not the > same one who married ? FISHER. > > > I guess I don't understand because in will he states Dau. MARY & son, > George > 100 acres > > Will of THOMAS USHER Kent Co., Md. 1/17/1714 L14: > To son, John, dau. Elizabeth, Jean, Sarah all given land where John > Pickett lives. Dau. MARY & son, George 100 acres where Oliver Mitchell > lives with plantation. Son, Thomas 1/2 gist mill head of Pruckell Pair > Creek. > Youngest child recently born & not yet christened. To wife, > ELIZABETH as exec., given plantation & 1/2 gist mill. > Witnesses T. Swynely, Joseph Langley and Dennis Sullivan. > > > > What Is the date of this Document below it looks like 1734. > > Because then in Land record he states: which Thomas > Usher left to his son, George & his dau. MARY, WIFE OF JOHN ABELL who > sold her 55 acres to Thomas Morsoll. > > > > Accts 37a f107 1715 Kent Co., Md. Elizabeth Usher, exec for Thomas > Usher, late of Kent Co., Md. > > PATENTS E.I.#1 f363-365 Kent Co., Md. Land in Kent Co. which Thomas > Usher left to his son, George & his dau. MARY, WIFE OF JOHN ABELL who > sold her 55 acres to Thomas Morsoll. > > PATENTS: Kent Co., Md. Thomas Usher 1705: Usher's Lott, The Neglect. > 1735 (George Usher) Usher's Pt./Killinsworthmore. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Linda Reno > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:36 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? > > I disagree. There was no marriage to Mary Usher. > > John Abell was married to a daughter of Edward Fisher. Her first name is > not known. > > 1/13/1712: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. NOK: John Abell and > Thomas Beatson. > > 5/13/1714: Admin. accts. of Edward Fisher, SMC. Payments to: John Abell > for > > his wife (unnamed, a child's part); Thomas Batson for his wife (unnamed, a > child's part), Adm., Wm. Thompson (Skinner). The estate was paid by John > Taylor. The estate made payments to (in addition to the children): David > Watson, Mr. Henry Lowe, and Thomas Price. > > My note to the list, 1/2004: > > There are those who claim that Mary Usher, daughter of Thomas Usher, was > the > > wife of John Abell based on a land record which named Mary, wife of John > Abell, in 1715. This won't work as Mary was named as a minor in her > father's will in 1714. She was not old enough to have married John Abell > and have had 3 children by 1715. The wife of John Abell of SMC was ____ > FISHER, daughter of Edward Fisher. > > PATENTS E.I.#1 f363-365 1734 Kent Co., Md. Land in Kent Co. which Thomas > Usher left to his son, George & his dau. MARY, WIFE OF JOHN ABELL who sold > her 55 acres to Thomas Morsoll. (Note to me from Tom Jennings, 1/17/2004). > > Linda Reno > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K. Woodring" <katwoodring@yahoo.com> > To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:21 PM > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? > > > > Thanks, Jerry! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry L. Clark <jerry876@comcast.net> > > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 5:39 PM > > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? > > > > John Abell Sr married first to unknown Fisher, second possibly to Mary > > Usher, third to Frances Wilkinson bef 16 Dec 1735 SMC. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of K. Woodring > > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:30 PM > > To: jking71@gmail.com; mdstmary@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] John Abell and Fisher or Usher? > > > > Did anyone figure out which is the correct name for Mary w/o John Abell > d. > > 1746? > > Is it just a transcript error or anothr John Abell? > > > > I had her as Mary Usher, dau. of Thomas Usher d. Bef 14 Jan 1814 in Kent > > County. MCW Vol IV, p28. > > Pat EI#1, f363-363 "wife of John Abell" and m. 10 Nov 1703 (no source- > > poss > > Kent Co?) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jackie King <jking71@gmail.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:28 PM > > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Edward Abell > > > > Jerry - > > > > I have Samuel Abell (b. 1710 - d. 1795) also married to a Susanna > > Spalding - but I carry him as the son of John Abell m. to FNU Fisher... > > > > ..I believe John's wife was the daughter of Edward Fisher although she > was > > unnamed in his will. Others I note call her an Usher. > > > >>> Edward Fisher Accts, 368,75 5/13/1714 > >>> John Abell for his unnamed wife, a child's part > >>> Thomas Batson for his unnamed wife, a child's part > >>> payments to David Watson, John Abell, Henry Lowe, Thomas Price. > >>> Admin. William Thompson. > >>> > >>> Inv. of Edward Fisher 33b.143 1/13/1712 > >>> kin: John Abell, Thomas Batson > >>> Thomas Batson 21.30 7/24/1735 Inv. > >>> Ref: FTM CD6 > >>> ** ** > >>> *Descendants of Dau. Fisher > >>> * > >>> > >>> 1 Dau. Fisher d: Aft. 1714 > >>> > >>> .. +John Abell b: Abt. 1680 d: October 1746 > >>> > >>> ........ 2 Samuel Abell, Sr. b: Abt. 1710 in St. Marys Co., Md. d: 1795 > > in > >>> Ky., Washington Co. > >>> > >>> ............ +Susanna Spalding b: in St. Marys Co., Md. d: Bet. 1775 - > >>> > >> 1790 > >> > >>> in Ky. > >>> > >>> ........ 2 John Abell, Sr. b: Abt. 1711 d: August 05, 1794 in St. Marys > >>> Co., > >>> Md. > >>> > >>> ............ +Jane Raley b: Abt. 1731 d: Aft. 1765 > >>> > >>> ........ 2 Enoch Abell b: Abt. 1714 d: March 17, 1784 in St. Marys > >>> > >>> ............ +Judah Booth m: Abt. 1740 b: Abt. 1723 d: 1784 in St. > Marys > >>> Co. > >>> > >>> ........ 2 Edward Abell, Sr. b: Abt. 1715 in St. Marys Co., Md. d: Aft. > >>> 1770 > >>> in St. Marys Co., Md. > >>> > >>> ............ +Elizabeth Horn m: Bef. 1748 > >>> > >>> ........ 2 Cuthbert Abell b: Abt. 1720 d: Bet. 1785 - 1786 in St. Marys > >>> > >>> ............ +Mary Clarke b: Bef. 1733 d: Aft. 1783 > >>> Tom Jennings > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Jerry L. Clark <jerry876@comcast.net > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Linda Reno, > >>>> > >>>> Who does this Edward Abell belong to that married ? HORN? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> v. HORN, b. Bef. 1733, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. Aft. 1748; m. EDWARD > >>>> > >> ABELL, > >> > >>>> Bef. 1748, St. Mary's Co., MD; b. 1715, St. Mary's Co., MD; d. 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    04/10/2009 01:46:22