Good morning Jerry, Another source has this: Ignatius Abell b. 1775 St. Marys Co. died August 16, 1840 Harrison, IN. Christinia Katherine Polke b.1776 Washington, Pa. died October 10, 1848 Harrison, IN. On 4/9/09, Jerry L. Clark <jerry876@comcast.net> wrote: > > Tom, > > Tom Jennings or list, > > > I don't know how far you have studied the children of Peter Abell and Lucy > Carmen, > > > But according to many web sites they claim that Peter Abell and Lucy CARMEN > had a son Ignatius ABELL born abt 1775 who married Christina Katherine > POLK(E) born Sep 1776 Washington, Pennsylvania married on 22 Dec 1794 , > Nelson, Kentucky > > > I don't know if Ignatius Abell and Christina Katherine POLK(E)dates of > birth > are correct. > > Christina Katherine POLK(E) daughter( of Edmond POLKE born 1740 , Prince > George's, Maryland died 9 May 1825 , Bullitt, Kentucky and Mary FULTZ) > > Then they claim that Ignatius ABELL born abt 1775 who married Christina > Katherine POLK > > Had a daughter Mary Abell born 1 Jan 1795 , Nelson, Kentucky who married > George MEDCALF. > > > Here is that marriage > > > Nelson Co Ky Marriages 1833-1848 (NCGR) > George Medcalf & Mary Abell > Bond: 4 May 1835 M: May 1835 > William King signed bond > Katherine Abell, mother of Mary, filed consent w/bond > W: William King, Nancy King > Married by W S Coomes, minister return > > George MEDCALF was a son of John Kenelem MEDCALF and Winifred PAYNE his > sister Nancy MEDCALF married William KING son of Jacob KING and Ann ABELL > > > Nelson Co Ky Marriages 1817-1832, NCGR > William King & Nancy Medcalf > Bond: 15 Oct 1818 M: 16 Oct 1818 > Philip Read signed bond > William, s/o Jacob King > Nancy, d/o John K Medcalf > Married by Joshua Morris, minister return > > Ann ABELL was a daughter of George ABELL and Elizabeth CRAWFORD. > > Nelson Co Ky Marriages 1785-1800 > Jacob King & Ann Abell > Bond: 22 Mar 1797 > George Abell, father of Ann, signed bond > and gave consent in person > > > > Nelson County, KY p 740 Will Book A > Will of George Abell dated 12 Sep 1802 prob. 9 Sep 1804 > Farm to wife Elizabeth and at her death to be divided between children > Elizabeth, Catharine, Judith, Enoch, Francis, Ann and Pollard. > Wit: Cornelius King, John Houston & William Cleaver. > Exec. wife Elizabeth and son William. > > > > So I followed this family in Baptismal Records. Here is the Baptismal > records of children of George MEDCALF and Mary ABELL > > > MEDCALF, GEORGE & MARY "POLLY" ABELL > > Baptized John Francis Medcalf, by Rev. Athanasius A. Aud at St. Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 12-07-1836. Sponsor, Charlotte Margaret Dever. > Parents: George Medcalf and Mary Abell. > > Baptized William Medcalf, 3-10-1838, by Rev. Athanasius A. Aud at St. > Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 3-03-1838. Sponsor, Winifred Medcalf. Parents: > George Medcalf and Polly Abell. > > Baptized (son) Medcalf, 7-11-1841, by Rev. Athanasius A. Aud at St. Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 7-09-1841. Sponsor not shown. Parents: George > Medcalf and Mary Abell. > > Baptized Winifred Ann Medcalf, 1-26-1846, by Rev. Daniel Kelly at St. > Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 12-09-1845. Sponsor, Martha Medcalf. Parents > George and Mary Medcalf. > > > It appears George MEDCALF doesn't live long enough to appear on 1850 > Census, > but his wife Mary ABELL (MEDCALF) does and if you notice Mary ABELL was > born > between 1813-1815. This makes me wonder then if somewhere we have an error > in dates of birth because obviously Mary Abell was not born 1 Jan 1795 , > Nelson, Kentucky > > Unless people have assumed that Mary ABELL born 1 Jan 1795 , Nelson, > Kentucky was the one who married George MEDCALF > > Or that date of birth is actually the date of birth of George MEDCALF not > his wife Mary Abell. You see my opinion is that's about the time George > MEDCALF was likely born. > > > 1850 Dist 2 Nelson Co Ky HH 257 > Mary Metcalf 37 Ky (Mary ABELL)born abt 1813 > John F 13 Ky > William 12 Ky > Charles 8 Ky > Elizabeth 6 Ky > Winifred 4 f Ky > > 1860 Cen Poplar Neck, Nelson Co, Ky; p 25 > HH 217/220 (same page) > > Metcalfe, Mary 46 f w famer 700/465 KY (ca 1814) > William 22 m w laborer 100 Ky > Charles 18 m w laborer 170 Ky (Charles MEDCALF married Sarah "Sallie" E. > Powers daughter of Sylvester POWERS and Mary E. JOHNSON) > Elizabeth 16 f w Ky (Elizabeth MEDCALF married John BALL) > Winifred 14 f w Ky > > 1870 Ballards Nelson Co Ky HH 115 > Mary Metcalf 55 (abt 1815) > William Metcalf 33 > Ann Metcalf 24 > > > I have not found burial of Mary ABELL (MEDCALF) but she does not appear on > 1880 Census so assume she died after 1870 and before 1880 and she likely > died in Nelson County, KY > > > > I would really like some proof of children of Ignatius ABELL and Christina > Katherine POLK. > > > > And I would like some proof of children of Peter ABELL and Lucy CARMEN. > > > I want to be sure that Mary ABELL wife of George MEDCALF has the correct > parents, and I would like to know her correct date of birth. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Tom, Thanks so much. I just found this web site http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dmlubahn&id=I09238 5 and as you can see it claims Mary ABELL born 1 JAN 1795 in Nelson, Kentucky, died 15 NOV 1831 in Harrison, Indiana So the Web site that had Claimed that the Mary ABELL born 1 JAN 1795 in Nelson, Kentucky, had the correct birth date, they just made a major mistake assuming this was the Mary ABELL who married GEORGE MEDCALF So Now that I know this, I have to assume the Mary ABELL born between 1813-1815 who married George MEDCALF does not belong to Ignatius ABELL and Christina Katherine Polk. So at least I know now I need to now find parents of the Mary ABELL born between 1813-1815 who married George MEDCALF. Any idea who might be a possibility. Needs to be parents who stayed in Nelson County, KY -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Jennings Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:09 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Peter Abell and Lucy Carmen Good morning Jerry, Another source has this: Ignatius Abell b. 1775 St. Marys Co. died August 16, 1840 Harrison, IN. Christinia Katherine Polke b.1776 Washington, Pa. died October 10, 1848 Harrison, IN. On 4/9/09, Jerry L. Clark <jerry876@comcast.net> wrote: > > Tom, > > Tom Jennings or list, > > > I don't know how far you have studied the children of Peter Abell and Lucy > Carmen, > > > But according to many web sites they claim that Peter Abell and Lucy CARMEN > had a son Ignatius ABELL born abt 1775 who married Christina Katherine > POLK(E) born Sep 1776 Washington, Pennsylvania married on 22 Dec 1794 , > Nelson, Kentucky > > > I don't know if Ignatius Abell and Christina Katherine POLK(E)dates of > birth > are correct. > > Christina Katherine POLK(E) daughter( of Edmond POLKE born 1740 , Prince > George's, Maryland died 9 May 1825 , Bullitt, Kentucky and Mary FULTZ) > > Then they claim that Ignatius ABELL born abt 1775 who married Christina > Katherine POLK > > Had a daughter Mary Abell born 1 Jan 1795 , Nelson, Kentucky who married > George MEDCALF. > > > Here is that marriage > > > Nelson Co Ky Marriages 1833-1848 (NCGR) > George Medcalf & Mary Abell > Bond: 4 May 1835 M: May 1835 > William King signed bond > Katherine Abell, mother of Mary, filed consent w/bond > W: William King, Nancy King > Married by W S Coomes, minister return > > George MEDCALF was a son of John Kenelem MEDCALF and Winifred PAYNE his > sister Nancy MEDCALF married William KING son of Jacob KING and Ann ABELL > > > Nelson Co Ky Marriages 1817-1832, NCGR > William King & Nancy Medcalf > Bond: 15 Oct 1818 M: 16 Oct 1818 > Philip Read signed bond > William, s/o Jacob King > Nancy, d/o John K Medcalf > Married by Joshua Morris, minister return > > Ann ABELL was a daughter of George ABELL and Elizabeth CRAWFORD. > > Nelson Co Ky Marriages 1785-1800 > Jacob King & Ann Abell > Bond: 22 Mar 1797 > George Abell, father of Ann, signed bond > and gave consent in person > > > > Nelson County, KY p 740 Will Book A > Will of George Abell dated 12 Sep 1802 prob. 9 Sep 1804 > Farm to wife Elizabeth and at her death to be divided between children > Elizabeth, Catharine, Judith, Enoch, Francis, Ann and Pollard. > Wit: Cornelius King, John Houston & William Cleaver. > Exec. wife Elizabeth and son William. > > > > So I followed this family in Baptismal Records. Here is the Baptismal > records of children of George MEDCALF and Mary ABELL > > > MEDCALF, GEORGE & MARY "POLLY" ABELL > > Baptized John Francis Medcalf, by Rev. Athanasius A. Aud at St. Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 12-07-1836. Sponsor, Charlotte Margaret Dever. > Parents: George Medcalf and Mary Abell. > > Baptized William Medcalf, 3-10-1838, by Rev. Athanasius A. Aud at St. > Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 3-03-1838. Sponsor, Winifred Medcalf. Parents: > George Medcalf and Polly Abell. > > Baptized (son) Medcalf, 7-11-1841, by Rev. Athanasius A. Aud at St. Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 7-09-1841. Sponsor not shown. Parents: George > Medcalf and Mary Abell. > > Baptized Winifred Ann Medcalf, 1-26-1846, by Rev. Daniel Kelly at St. > Thomas > Catholic Church. Birth date, 12-09-1845. Sponsor, Martha Medcalf. Parents > George and Mary Medcalf. > > > It appears George MEDCALF doesn't live long enough to appear on 1850 > Census, > but his wife Mary ABELL (MEDCALF) does and if you notice Mary ABELL was > born > between 1813-1815. This makes me wonder then if somewhere we have an error > in dates of birth because obviously Mary Abell was not born 1 Jan 1795 , > Nelson, Kentucky > > Unless people have assumed that Mary ABELL born 1 Jan 1795 , Nelson, > Kentucky was the one who married George MEDCALF > > Or that date of birth is actually the date of birth of George MEDCALF not > his wife Mary Abell. You see my opinion is that's about the time George > MEDCALF was likely born. > > > 1850 Dist 2 Nelson Co Ky HH 257 > Mary Metcalf 37 Ky (Mary ABELL)born abt 1813 > John F 13 Ky > William 12 Ky > Charles 8 Ky > Elizabeth 6 Ky > Winifred 4 f Ky > > 1860 Cen Poplar Neck, Nelson Co, Ky; p 25 > HH 217/220 (same page) > > Metcalfe, Mary 46 f w famer 700/465 KY (ca 1814) > William 22 m w laborer 100 Ky > Charles 18 m w laborer 170 Ky (Charles MEDCALF married Sarah "Sallie" E. > Powers daughter of Sylvester POWERS and Mary E. JOHNSON) > Elizabeth 16 f w Ky (Elizabeth MEDCALF married John BALL) > Winifred 14 f w Ky > > 1870 Ballards Nelson Co Ky HH 115 > Mary Metcalf 55 (abt 1815) > William Metcalf 33 > Ann Metcalf 24 > > > I have not found burial of Mary ABELL (MEDCALF) but she does not appear on > 1880 Census so assume she died after 1870 and before 1880 and she likely > died in Nelson County, KY > > > > I would really like some proof of children of Ignatius ABELL and Christina > Katherine POLK. > > > > And I would like some proof of children of Peter ABELL and Lucy CARMEN. > > > I want to be sure that Mary ABELL wife of George MEDCALF has the correct > parents, and I would like to know her correct date of birth. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message