Hi, Mary, I'd be interested in a transcript of John Jarboe's will that specifically state's Elizabeth was single. In the abstract, she is just called "Elizabeth" and no surname or marital state mentioned. Do you or anyone else have a transcript that they could post? I would surely appreciate it. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary D. Kraeszig" <kittydoc@indy.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth Jarboe > John Jarboe's will specifically states that Eliza was not married at the > time he wrote his will in 1704. Therefore, it does not make sense to me > that this Eliza(beth) Jarboe was the wife of George Medcalfe (who > according to info below died in 1702). If so, she should have been > named by her father as Eliza Medcalfe, or Eliza Davis if she had already > remarried Samuel Davis by 1704 (possible, but unknown). > > Since this is a direct line for me (James and Elizabeth Gough), I am > really trying to sort through what we know and what we don't know. > > Mary Kraeszig > > Even more snippets from Todd Whitesides and Mike Gough's exchanges on > Genforum a few years back (Todd's statements/arguments): > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > James Gough's wife Elizabeth was born ca 1682 [aged 28 on 28 Sept 1711 > (date of a deposition--see below)], and had been married to (1) George > Medcalfe (d. 1702) and (2) Samuel Davis (liv. 1707) previous to her > marriage to Gough. Elizabeth Jarboe (d/o John Jarboe) was unmarried at > the time of her father's will (1704), and our Elizabeth [who later > married James Gough] was already a widow by this time. Our Elizabeth had > no known children by her first two husbands, both of whom owned the > tract "Rocky Point" in Newtown Hundred which had been patented in 1652 > to Richard Nevitt. John Nevitt was Richard's son and senior heir, and it > appears that he gave that tract to his daughter's first two husbands as > dower lands. After they died without issue he repossessed it and sold it > on 11 May 1715 to William Maria Farthing and James Wheatley. After two > marriages Elizabeth would have acquired enough property that her father > would not have to provide a dowery for her. > > A possible explanation for James Gough owning part of the Jarboe tract > is that he was a son of Mary (Tattershall) Gough-Jarboe who had a > partial claim to the Jarboe tract as part of her widow's dower. Also, in > 1708 James Gough was also named as a trustee for the children of his > half-brother Henry Jarboe. > > Another possibility for the appearance of Jarboe land in the Gough > family is that John Nevitt's other daughter, Ann, was the wife of Peter > Jarboe and after his 1698 death served as his executrix. She and her > newborn child died later that year and her father, John Nevitt of > Newtown, assumed administration and the estate remained in his > possession. Perhaps he gifted part of this land to his daughter > Elizabeth's family. > Respected historian and writer, Dr Lois Green Carr, also lists James > Gough's wife as Elizabeth (Nevitt), widow of George Medcalfe, in her > notes at the Archives of Maryland. > In spite of the difficulty of establishing the identities of John Nevitt > and Richard Nevitt, I do feel confident that James Gough's wife was most > likely Elizabeth Nevitt. > > If you want proof of James Gough's wife Elizabeth being married before > him, see Maryland Chancery Court Records Liber 2, folio 751. In 1711 the > boundary of Richard Vowles's dwelling plantation on St Clement's Bay was > disputed. On 28 Sept 1711 two depositions were taken to help resolve > this. John Nevitt, aged 70, describes the boundary of Vowles's "Redbudd > Thickett" being next to "Rocky Point," both tracts had formerly belonged > to his father Richard Nevitt according to this deposition. On the same > day, Elizabeth Gough, aged 28, said she had formerly been the wife of > George Medcalfe who possessed "Rocky Point," and gave a deposition > regarding the land's boundary. The 1707 Rent Rolls show the owner of > "Rocky Point" to be Samuel Davis, who had married George Medcalfe's > widow, and that he had a life estate in the tract. The 1715 Rent Rolls > show John Nevell (sic) Sr. to be possessor of the tract, and later that > year he sold it as I mentioned in a previous post. > > If you want proof of debunking the misconception that James's wife > Elizabeth was Elizabeth, daughter of John Jarboe, just see John Jarboe's > 1704 will [Wills Liber 3, pt.2, folio 505]. She was unmarried at that > time. Our Elizabeth's first husband George Medcalfe's estate was > administered in 1702, so she was already a widow at the time of Jarboe's > will. > > I think the idea that James Gough was married to an Elizabeth Jarboe > needs to be let go. If he was married to a granddaughter of Lt-Col John > Jarboe named Elizabeth then he would have been married to his niece of > the half blood. Even with a clerical dispensation I don't think this > would have been done. > > Elizabeth (nee Nevitt) was married to James Gough by 1711, and an > Elizabeth was named as his executrix in 1725. At this point there is no > reason to doubt they are the same person. Elizabeth was a savvy woman, > and did not abide by her husband's will. She claimed her right to the > widow's third of the estate. She probably felt entitled to this as she > had brought Nevitt land into this family by marriage. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to all who responded. I appreciate it. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Norma Lundgren" <nlndgrn@sbcglobal.net> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth Jarboe > Hi, Mary, > > I'd be interested in a transcript of John Jarboe's will that specifically > state's Elizabeth was single. In the abstract, she is just called > "Elizabeth" and no surname or marital state mentioned. > > Do you or anyone else have a transcript that they could post? I would > surely > appreciate it. > > Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary D. Kraeszig" <kittydoc@indy.rr.com> > To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth Jarboe > > >> John Jarboe's will specifically states that Eliza was not married at the >> time he wrote his will in 1704. Therefore, it does not make sense to me >> that this Eliza(beth) Jarboe was the wife of George Medcalfe (who >> according to info below died in 1702). If so, she should have been >> named by her father as Eliza Medcalfe, or Eliza Davis if she had already >> remarried Samuel Davis by 1704 (possible, but unknown). >> >> Since this is a direct line for me (James and Elizabeth Gough), I am >> really trying to sort through what we know and what we don't know. >> >> Mary Kraeszig >> >> Even more snippets from Todd Whitesides and Mike Gough's exchanges on >> Genforum a few years back (Todd's statements/arguments): >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> >> James Gough's wife Elizabeth was born ca 1682 [aged 28 on 28 Sept 1711 >> (date of a deposition--see below)], and had been married to (1) George >> Medcalfe (d. 1702) and (2) Samuel Davis (liv. 1707) previous to her >> marriage to Gough. Elizabeth Jarboe (d/o John Jarboe) was unmarried at >> the time of her father's will (1704), and our Elizabeth [who later >> married James Gough] was already a widow by this time. Our Elizabeth had >> no known children by her first two husbands, both of whom owned the >> tract "Rocky Point" in Newtown Hundred which had been patented in 1652 >> to Richard Nevitt. John Nevitt was Richard's son and senior heir, and it >> appears that he gave that tract to his daughter's first two husbands as >> dower lands. After they died without issue he repossessed it and sold it >> on 11 May 1715 to William Maria Farthing and James Wheatley. After two >> marriages Elizabeth would have acquired enough property that her father >> would not have to provide a dowery for her. >> >> A possible explanation for James Gough owning part of the Jarboe tract >> is that he was a son of Mary (Tattershall) Gough-Jarboe who had a >> partial claim to the Jarboe tract as part of her widow's dower. Also, in >> 1708 James Gough was also named as a trustee for the children of his >> half-brother Henry Jarboe. >> >> Another possibility for the appearance of Jarboe land in the Gough >> family is that John Nevitt's other daughter, Ann, was the wife of Peter >> Jarboe and after his 1698 death served as his executrix. She and her >> newborn child died later that year and her father, John Nevitt of >> Newtown, assumed administration and the estate remained in his >> possession. Perhaps he gifted part of this land to his daughter >> Elizabeth's family. >> Respected historian and writer, Dr Lois Green Carr, also lists James >> Gough's wife as Elizabeth (Nevitt), widow of George Medcalfe, in her >> notes at the Archives of Maryland. >> In spite of the difficulty of establishing the identities of John Nevitt >> and Richard Nevitt, I do feel confident that James Gough's wife was most >> likely Elizabeth Nevitt. >> >> If you want proof of James Gough's wife Elizabeth being married before >> him, see Maryland Chancery Court Records Liber 2, folio 751. In 1711 the >> boundary of Richard Vowles's dwelling plantation on St Clement's Bay was >> disputed. On 28 Sept 1711 two depositions were taken to help resolve >> this. John Nevitt, aged 70, describes the boundary of Vowles's "Redbudd >> Thickett" being next to "Rocky Point," both tracts had formerly belonged >> to his father Richard Nevitt according to this deposition. On the same >> day, Elizabeth Gough, aged 28, said she had formerly been the wife of >> George Medcalfe who possessed "Rocky Point," and gave a deposition >> regarding the land's boundary. The 1707 Rent Rolls show the owner of >> "Rocky Point" to be Samuel Davis, who had married George Medcalfe's >> widow, and that he had a life estate in the tract. The 1715 Rent Rolls >> show John Nevell (sic) Sr. to be possessor of the tract, and later that >> year he sold it as I mentioned in a previous post. >> >> If you want proof of debunking the misconception that James's wife >> Elizabeth was Elizabeth, daughter of John Jarboe, just see John Jarboe's >> 1704 will [Wills Liber 3, pt.2, folio 505]. She was unmarried at that >> time. Our Elizabeth's first husband George Medcalfe's estate was >> administered in 1702, so she was already a widow at the time of Jarboe's >> will. >> >> I think the idea that James Gough was married to an Elizabeth Jarboe >> needs to be let go. If he was married to a granddaughter of Lt-Col John >> Jarboe named Elizabeth then he would have been married to his niece of >> the half blood. Even with a clerical dispensation I don't think this >> would have been done. >> >> Elizabeth (nee Nevitt) was married to James Gough by 1711, and an >> Elizabeth was named as his executrix in 1725. At this point there is no >> reason to doubt they are the same person. Elizabeth was a savvy woman, >> and did not abide by her husband's will. She claimed her right to the >> widow's third of the estate. She probably felt entitled to this as she >> had brought Nevitt land into this family by marriage. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message