Ernie, The Ignatius Medcalf (son of William Medcalf and Susanna SMITH?)married Sarah FORD. It was John Medcalf his brother who married Elizabeth FRENCH that are the parents of the Ignatius Medcalf who married Mary ? and Elizabeth Betsy COMBS. But My question is. What Ties the Ignatius Medcalf of Hampton who married a Mary ? as being the same Ignatius Medcalf who married Elizabeth "Betsy Combs? I have not seen that proof. There is still another Ignatius Medcalf Who I have that married a Mary French who had a son Ignatius Medcalf Jr. who married Agnes Catherine Huff or HOUGH daughter of Aaron HOUGH and Ann Nancy Combs. Problem is I have no proof of this Ignatius Medcalf marriage to Mary French. And Ann Nancy COMBS who married Aaron Hough. I'm showing as the sister of the Elizabeth Betsy COMBS who married 2nd to Ignatius Medcalf who was Previously married to a Mary ? and supposedly was the son of John Medcalf and Elizabeth FRENCH. It would make more since that the Ann Nancy COMBS who married Aaron Hough whose daughter Agnes Catherine HOUGH or Huff, who married Ignatius COMBS JR. that his Father would be the Ignatius Combs who married Elizabeth "Betsy" COMBS. That way Ignatius Combs Jr. would be marrying his 1st cousin. Obviously we have some errors. I have not studied these Medcalf's enough to link them all. I also have an Ignatius Medcalf who married Elizabeth VOWLES 3 Jan 1823 , Nelson, Kentucky don't know his parents either -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EPERRY4616@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:03 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Ignatius Medcalf of Hampton List -- Are we assuming that the 1796, St. Mary's County, Ignatius Medcalf and Mary of Hampton and No Name are the same as the 1788, Nelson Co., KY, Ignatius Medcalf, Mary and Ethelbert Mills? Let's look at William Madcalf's 1733 will again: Madcalf, William, St. Mary's Co.,18th Jan., 1733-4; 1st Mch., 1733. To son George and hrs., dwelling plantation . To son John and hrs., tract at head of Bretan's Bay, formerly belonging to Peter Smeth. To son William and hrs., tract bought of Peter Smeth (having a judgment in court for it, and cannot possess it until James Persons is of age). To son Ignatius and sons afsd., personalty, afsd. lands and personalty to be delivered to four sons as they come to age of 21. To wife Susannah, extx., residue of estate. Test: Thomas Wootton, John Howard, Margret Dun. 20. 889. So, the above William Madcalf had sons: George, John, William and Ignatius and they were all under 21 when he wrote his will in 1733. Let's look at the sons of William d 1733 individually ........... CHILDREN OF WILLIAM MADCALF ............ 1) GEORGE MEDCALF: We know no more of the George Medcalf mentioned in the above will --- or do we? Likely he remained in St. Mary's and inherited the homestead due to laws or primogeniture. [Probably he married a Spink] I believe George Medcalf and this one to be the same: Will of Peter Peake, SMC 10/28/1755-2/16/1756. Wife: Catherine, all the land and plantation that I possess. Daughter: Susanna Peake a cow, bed, etc. Children: John, Peter, Ignatius, Susanna Peake and Anastasia Brown, the remainder of my personal estate. Wife: Exec. Wit: William Russell, Thomas Thompson, GEORGE MEDCALF. [Note the name Kenelm runs in this line of Peakes......] 2) IGNATIUS MEDCALF: Nor do we know anything about this Ignatius. Why could he not be this Ignatius Medcalf of Hampton & No Name? Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Margaret Holton for "Part of Hampton", 30 ac., 9/13/1796. Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to John Greenwell, Jr. for "Part of No Name", 22 ac., 9/13/1796. Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Solomon Jones for "Part of Hampton", 47 ac., 9/13/1796. Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Philip Ford for "Part of Hampton", 42 ac., 9/13/1796. Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Philip Ford for "Dry Docking", 162 1/2 ac., 9/13/1796. Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to John Drury for "Part of No Name", 77 ac., 9/13/1796 (Chr. of SM). Note: Solomon Jones is mentioned in the Will of Patrick Burne (Burn), planter, St. Mary's Co., 12/13/1737-1/16/1737-38. See Linda Reno's analysis of the Miles-Holtons here: _http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MDSTMARY/2006-03/1142433372_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MDSTMARY/2006-03/1142433372) 3) WILLIAM MEDCALF: William quite likely married Elizabeth Bould, widow of John Boulds, Jr. : 2 Dec 1754. Administrative account of the estate of John BOULD, of St. Mary' s Co. Numerous individuals are listed including received from Thomas HOWARD, Henry HOWARD, Thomas NORRISE, Clement NORRISS, Ozwell THOMPSON, John Baptist GREENWELL, payments to John Baptist CARBARY. Executrix: Susannah BOULD, now wife of William MADCALF. (Abstracts of the Administration Accounts of the Prerogative Court of Maryland, Libers 29-36, 1750-1754, by V.L. Skinner, Jr., Willow Bend Books, 2000, p. 173.) William Medcalf was still alive in 1761 evidenced by the will of John Basil Greenwell: 10 Sept 1761. Will of John Basil GREENWELL, St. Mary's Co., 10 Sept. 1761, 13 Oct 1761. To son Joshua GREENWELL, 100 A. called Evans Quarter, whereon I now dwell, after wife Eleanor GREENWELL dies, and in case of no such hrs., then to son James GREENWELL and hrs., and in case no issue, then to Richard Langhorn CLARK, son-in-law, to him forever. To sone James GREENWELL, tract whereon WM. MEDCALF now dwells, called Pil's Wood Lane, 200 a., and if he die without issue to son Joshua GREENWELL. To son Joshua GREENWELL, some slaves. To son James GREENWELL, slaves to dau-in-law (unnamed) and son-in law Richard CLARK, 100 lbs. Tobacco. Extx: Wife. Wit. Monia MEDLEY, Mary NORRIS, James PIKE. (Will Book 31, p. 498.) 4) JOHN MEDCALF.. likely married Elizabeth French. Will of John French, Sr., SMC 2/19/1767-6/13/1770. First son: John, all land on w. side of Cook's Run and at his decease to grandson, Bennet French; if he dies without heirs, to grandson Barnet French. Second son: Ignatius, my now dwelling plantation and all remainder of "Hopton Park" but for want of heirs to grandson, Bennet French. 1/2 of personal estate to second son Ignatius French and youngest daughter, Susanna French. Remainder of estate to be divided equally between children: Mary Yates, John French, ELIZABETH MEDCALF, Monica Davis, Ignatius and Susanna French. Exec: Son, Ignatius.Wit: William Brewer, Elizabeth, Anthony, and Peter Brown. (Maryland Calendar of Wills). Note: "Hopton Park," 2100 acres surveyed for John Vowle's brother-in-law Cuthbert Scott in 1680, is just north of several tracts of land that belonged to the family of Richard Vowles. Chronicles of St. Mary's, Vol. XXI, No. 5 (May 1973). . 5) OTHERS: Margaret Dun/Dunn is quite likely connected to Benjamin Dunn thru marriage. Was she not a Ford? Susannah Dunn, her daughter was left two slaves by Robert Ford who married Margaret Unknown: Liber 29, folio 88 --- ------- 1753 FORD, ROBERT, [St.Mary's Co.] To wife, Teresia Ford, for life, my dw. plntn.& all lands, & on her d., to grdson Joseph Fenwick, & in default of heirs, to grddau. Margarett Fenwick, & in default of heirs, to grddau. Mary Fenwick, & in default of heirs, to the heirs of my dau. Monica Fenwick. To son-in-law John Fenwick & dau. Monica Fenwick, for their lives, the part of Resurrection Manor s'd John lives on & the watermill, & on their d., to grdson Robert Fenwick, & if he d. s. p., to the heirs of s'd dau. Monica To Susannah Dunn, d. o. Margaret Dunn, 2 negroes betw.6 & 10 yrs.(a boy & a girl), a bed, & 2 cows & calves. To sister Teresia Wimsatt, 1000 lb. tob. & the debts she owes me. To 2 bros., John & Peter Ford each 1000 lb. tob. & 1/2 my clothes. To Monica Williams, negro wench Moll now in possn. of William Williams, her husb. To the poor within 6 miles of the place where I live, 8000 lb. tob.to be laid out in purchasing corn, linen, & woolen. To Peter Ford, Jr., L 30 sterl., 1000 lb. tob., 5 barrels corn, & all debts due me. Of the residue of my p. e., 1/3 to s'd wife & 2/3 to s'd son-in-law John & dau. Monica till my grdchldn. reach age 21 or mar. Extrs: wife, Teresia Ford, & son-in-law John Fenwick Witn: John Hall, Jr., John Cole, Henry Wimsatt. 15 Jan. 1754, sworn to by all 3 witn., who further depose that testator executed his will about 12 Nov. 1753. Please do not hesitate to make any corrections to the above... Ernie In a message dated 1/2/2009 1:27:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, lindareno@comcast.net writes: Margaret Combs did have at least one child and that was by Matthew Medley. She was Mary Ann Walbert Medley. Will of Matthew Medley, SMC, 4/1788-6/3/1788. Wife: Margaret Medley, all of my lands including "Dry Docking" and "No Name" during her life and widowhood and one third of my personal estate. Daughter: Mary Ann Walbert Medley, the land above and two thirds of my personal estate after the death of my wife. Execs.: Wife, Margaret Medley, and William Combs. Wit.: Bennet Combs, Catherine Nottingham, Barbara Riley. NOTE: William Combs renounced executorship of this will. (St. Mary's County, Maryland Wills, 1776-1791 by Linda Reno and Joann Humphries). There is no further mention of Mary Ann Walbert Medley anywhere and I have to assume she died young. She could not have been born until at least 1786 as Matthew Medley was born in 1766 and Margaret Combs was born in 1764. Ignatius Medcalf was married to Mary ____prior to 1788. Whoever she was, she was born before 1773--and she is surely not Mary Ann Walbert Medley. Any other children that Margaret Combs had would still have been too young to have married Ignatius Medcalf, but my contention is she had none that lived to adulthood. The land was sold. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry L. Clark" <jerry876@comcast.net> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Ignatius Medcalf of Hampton > > > > Linda Reno > > You Said in reference to Mary Mills (MEDLEY) (WIMSATT): > > No, she was married only twice--first to Clement Medley and second to > Ignatius Wimsatt. > > > Ok. > > > You stated: > > Sorry, I'm not following. Why does Mary ____wife of Ignatius Medcalf have > to be a daughter of Margaret Combs? > > Also, take this into consideration: > > My note to Pete Himmelheber, 3/2/2008: > > 10/1793: Citation against William Holton and Margaret, his wife, Execs. > of > Matthew Medley. (Orphan Ct. Rec., Fenwick). > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Margaret Holton for "Part of > Hampton", 30 ac., 9/13/1796. > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to John Greenwell, Jr. for "Part of No > Name", 22 ac., 9/13/1796. > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Margaret Holton for "Part of > Hampton", 30 ac., 9/13/1796. > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Solomon Jones for "Part of > Hampton", > 47 ac., 9/13/1796. > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Philip Ford for "Part of Hampton", > 42 > ac., 9/13/1796. > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Philip Ford for "Dry Docking", 162 > 1/2 ac., 9/13/1796. > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to John Drury for "Part of No Name", > 77 > ac., 9/13/1796 (Chr. of SM). > > > In other words, Mary MILLS MEDLEY has outlived all of her sons. She > settles > with her daughter-in-law Margaret (Combs) and transfers Matthew's share of > the property. The daughters, as usually happened, received personal > estate > at the time of their marriages. > > Linda Reno > > > I have no problem understanding that Mary MILLS MEDLEY transfers Matthew > Medley's share of the property to his wife Margaret COMBS. > > And I suppose Margaret COMBS Medley may just have sold the land, she got > from her mother in law Mary MILLS (MEDLEY) > > > Let me explain some of my thinking. > > Margaret COMBS daughter of (William Combs and Mary Eleanor Taney)marries > Mathew Medley son of Clement Medley and Mary MILLS, she marries 2nd to > William HOLTON(don't have any details on him)and third Phillip NORRIS. > > > So in these first two deeds the Same Margaret Combs once as married to > Phillip Norris, and Once as married to William HOLTON is doing a land deal > with Ignatius Medcalf and wife Mary ? > > Maybe there is no connection and maybe Margaret COMBS > (MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS)is just selling her land. > > All the other Deeds Ignatius Medcalf and wife Mary ? are selling some of > the > same land, thy either bought, or inherited by (MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS) > > But it would seem logical that since Margaret COMBS had three husbands she > likely had children from one of them. > > It seems to me there might be a possibility that Mary ? wife of Ignatius > Medcalf, might be a daughter of Margaret COMBS by one of her husbands. > > And Personally I believe it was from her 1st husband Mathew MEDLEY. > > Maybe there is no documention to prove Margaret COMBS > (MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS) had any children by any husband. > > I currently have no children for Margaret Combs by any of her husbands. > > In both of these Deeds involving Ignatius Medcalf and wife Mary ? Margaret > Combs is involved > > Deed to Philip Norris from Ignatius Medcalf and wife, "Part of Hampton", > 30 > ac., 9/13/1796 (Chr.of SM). > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Margaret Holton for "Part of > Hampton", 30 ac., 9/13/1796. > > > Now this deed to Charles Gregory GREENWELL married three times. 1st to > Monica WILLIAMS, 2nd to Elizabeth A. COMBS, and third to Priscilla MEDLEY > > > Elizabeth A. Combs was a daughter of Enoch Combs and Ann Roach. And this > Enoch Combs a son of Enoch Combs and Mary Manning. > > The Enoch Combs who married Mary Manning was a brother to William Combs > who > married Mary Eleanor TANEY, parents of Margaret > COMBS(MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS) > > > So Margaret Combs (MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS) is related to Elizabeth A. > Combs > wife of Charles Gregory GREENWELL > > > Deed from Philip and Margaret Norris to Charles G. Greenwell for > "Hampton",30 > ac.,6/26/1798 (Chr.of SM).Chr. of SM. > > > On these three deeds below I don't know which Phillip Ford this is or who > he > married. Same with who John Greenwell is or who he married. I have three > Solomon Jones. One who married Ann FENWICK, another who married Monica Van > RESWICK, and another Solomon JONES who married Catherine BURNS > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Philip Ford for "Part of Hampton", > 42 > ac., 9/13/1796. > > > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to John Greenwell, Jr. for "Part of No > Name", > 22 ac. 9/13/1796. > > > Deed from Ignatius and Mary Medcalf to Solomon Jones for "Part of > Hampton",47 ac., 9/13/1796. > > > So I guess My question is, did Ignatius and Mary Medcalf just buy this > land >>From Margaret COMBS (MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS) or was it passed along to a > daughter. > > I'm pretty sure Ignatius Medcalf has no relationship to Margaret COMBS > (MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS), unless it be through his wife Mary. > > Keep in mind this same Ignatius Medcalf married 2nd to Elizabeth "Betsy" > Combs whose Ancestry follows a different Combs line, but one likely > related > more distantly to Margaret COMBS (MEDLEY)(HOLTON)(NORRIS) > > If there is no Proof then I guess my reasoning has no merit, but I just > bring it up just in case we are overlooking a possible clue. > **************New year...new news. 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