Since we were discussing the Payne line and I descend from the Virginia Payne's through John Payne and his wife Margaret Robinson/Jennings through their son John, Jr that married Anne Walker, daughter of Col. John Walker by his first wife wife who is unknown. This article also mentions Edwin Conway and Martha Eltonhead and Henry Thacker who are also my grandparents but also mentions connections to other Paynes. http://searches2.rootsweb.com/th/read/PAYNE/2000-03/0953827484 Patrick Payne has mentioned primary records of Sir Robert Payne of St. Noet's, Hunts, that purchased his land there in 1590 from Sir Henry Darcy and his wife Catherine (nee Fermor) widow of Michael Paultney of Leicestershire. Michael Paultney was also the father of Margaret wife of Sir Thomas Payne from whom the Payne's of Suffolk are known to be descended. Marianne Dillow Illinois