> I have Richard Spalding's 1st wife as Henrietta Hamilton, married 28 > Jul 1801 in Washington County, KY. Bond for marriage to Henrietta (1st > wife) signed 7-25-1801 with John Gordon Smith as surety. Wedding by > Father Michael J. C. Fournier. On this bond, she is named as a > Hamilton. These 2 are the parents of Archbishop Spalding. This agrees w/ what I found from an on-line Abell link to the Archbishop's bio + info sent to me by Linda Reno. > I have Richard Spalding's 2nd wife as Henrietta Abell, dau of Samuel > Abell, Sr. and Susanna, who married Thomas Thompson in 1772 then > Richard on 20 Jan 1817. Their marriage bond was signed 1-12-1817 with > Francis Simms as surety. Her Abell index Ref. # 5-15-32. I'm a bit confused here. The on-line Abell genealogy page says she was born in 1786. She couldn't have been married in 1772 - something's wrong here. After she & Richard married in 1817, she had 5 children. If born in 1786, she was in her 30s when most of these children were born. But if she was first married in 1772, she had to have been at least born by 1755. That would have made her in her 60s when she had these children. Not likely. If her first husband was Thomas Thompson ....... if we had a better marriage date for her 1st marriage to him, this would solve this ABELL vs. THOMPSON problem. > His 3rd wife was Mary Charlton, married 15 Feb 1827 in Washington > County, KY. Both he and Mary show up in the 1850 census of Marion > County, KY. This also agrees with what I found. Both Richard & Mary died in 1850 - so they must have lived just long enough to get on the census. Thanks for this info, Randy. Can you clear up the marriage date for Thomas Thompson & Henrietta Abell ? Do you agree that Henrietta was born in 1786 rather than at some point in the 1750s ? Any idea when Thomas died ? David -------------------------------------------------- From: "C Greenwell" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:53 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Richard Spalding - Father of Archbishop Spalding > Hi List, > > This should be a great discussion. > > I have Richard Spalding's 1st wife as Henrietta Hamilton, married 28 > Jul 1801 in Washington County, KY. Bond for marriage to Henrietta (1st > wife) signed 7-25-1801 with John Gordon Smith as surety. Wedding by > Father Michael J. C. Fournier. On this bond, she is named as a > Hamilton. > > I have Richard Spalding's 2nd wife as Henrietta Abell, dau of Samuel > Abell, Sr. and Susanna, who married Thomas Thompson in 1772 then > Richard on 20 Jan 1817. Their marriage bond was signed 1-12-1817 with > Francis Simms as surety. Her Abell index Ref. # 5-15-32. > > > > Sources: > 1. The Abell Index > Author: William Russell Abell, John Wathen Abell and Victor A. Abell > Publication: West Lafayette, Indiana, 1994 > Note: The Genealogical Index of the Abell Families of Maryland and > Kentucky and Their Descendants. > > 2. Book Title: Thomas Mattingly II.FTW > > 3. Roy Abell's web site > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=t1049&id=I00346 > > > Randy > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, David Roberts <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I'm doing a bio of Archbishop Spalding for the Spring 2010 "Generator." >> The Archbishop was son of wife #1 - that's no problem - Henrietta >> Hamilton from Charles County. >> I found one Abell site that lists Richard's 2nd wife was Henrietta Abell >> { 1st step-mother of the future Archbishop} >> Find-A-Grave, however, says she was a Thompson - has picture of her grave >> at Holy Name of Mary cemetery. >> The lady who posted those graves gave a citation to the marriage of >> Richard Spalding & Henny Thompson. >> I asked Linda Reno. >> She also had her as a Thompson. >> Before I go to print - was wife #2 a Miss Henrietta Abell ? a Miss >> Henrietta Thompson ? or a widowed Mrs. Thompson, who had been an Abell ? >> I want to get this correct. >> Thanks !

Maryland Historical Society has Thompson, Thomas m. Abel, Henrietta, 25 Feb 1772 If she had been 15 at time of marriage she would still have been 60 in 1817. This marriage is also on St. Mary's Co., MD records. Does anyone have a record of a marriage of Henrietta Abel/Abell in MD or KY to anybody? There are 6 marriages for Richard Spalding between 1798 to 1827 in Washington Co., KY. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Richard Spalding - Father of Archbishop Spalding >> I have Richard Spalding's 1st wife as Henrietta Hamilton, married 28 >> Jul 1801 in Washington County, KY. Bond for marriage to Henrietta (1st >> wife) signed 7-25-1801 with John Gordon Smith as surety. Wedding by >> Father Michael J. C. Fournier. On this bond, she is named as a >> Hamilton. > > These 2 are the parents of Archbishop Spalding. This agrees w/ what I > found > from an on-line Abell link to the Archbishop's bio + info sent to me by > Linda Reno. > >> I have Richard Spalding's 2nd wife as Henrietta Abell, dau of Samuel >> Abell, Sr. and Susanna, who married Thomas Thompson in 1772 then >> Richard on 20 Jan 1817. Their marriage bond was signed 1-12-1817 with >> Francis Simms as surety. Her Abell index Ref. # 5-15-32. > > I'm a bit confused here. The on-line Abell genealogy page says she was > born > in 1786. She couldn't have been married in 1772 - something's wrong here. > After she & Richard married in 1817, she had 5 children. If born in 1786, > she was in her 30s when most of these children were born. > But if she was first married in 1772, she had to have been at least born > by > 1755. That would have made her in her 60s when she had these children. Not > likely. > > If her first husband was Thomas Thompson ....... if we had a better > marriage date for her 1st marriage to him, this would solve this ABELL vs. > THOMPSON problem. > >> His 3rd wife was Mary Charlton, married 15 Feb 1827 in Washington >> County, KY. Both he and Mary show up in the 1850 census of Marion >> County, KY. > > This also agrees with what I found. Both Richard & Mary died in 1850 - so > they must have lived just long enough to get on the census. > > Thanks for this info, Randy. > Can you clear up the marriage date for Thomas Thompson & Henrietta Abell ? > Do you agree that Henrietta was born in 1786 rather than at some point in > the 1750s ? > Any idea when Thomas died ? > > David > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "C Greenwell" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:53 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Richard Spalding - Father of Archbishop Spalding > >> Hi List, >> >> This should be a great discussion. >> >> I have Richard Spalding's 1st wife as Henrietta Hamilton, married 28 >> Jul 1801 in Washington County, KY. Bond for marriage to Henrietta (1st >> wife) signed 7-25-1801 with John Gordon Smith as surety. Wedding by >> Father Michael J. C. Fournier. On this bond, she is named as a >> Hamilton. >> >> I have Richard Spalding's 2nd wife as Henrietta Abell, dau of Samuel >> Abell, Sr. and Susanna, who married Thomas Thompson in 1772 then >> Richard on 20 Jan 1817. Their marriage bond was signed 1-12-1817 with >> Francis Simms as surety. Her Abell index Ref. # 5-15-32. >> >> >> >> Sources: >> 1. The Abell Index >> Author: William Russell Abell, John Wathen Abell and Victor A. Abell >> Publication: West Lafayette, Indiana, 1994 >> Note: The Genealogical Index of the Abell Families of Maryland and >> Kentucky and Their Descendants. >> >> 2. Book Title: Thomas Mattingly II.FTW >> >> 3. Roy Abell's web site >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=t1049&id=I00346 >> >> >> Randy >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, David Roberts <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I'm doing a bio of Archbishop Spalding for the Spring 2010 "Generator." >>> The Archbishop was son of wife #1 - that's no problem - Henrietta >>> Hamilton from Charles County. >>> I found one Abell site that lists Richard's 2nd wife was Henrietta Abell >>> { 1st step-mother of the future Archbishop} >>> Find-A-Grave, however, says she was a Thompson - has picture of her >>> grave >>> at Holy Name of Mary cemetery. >>> The lady who posted those graves gave a citation to the marriage of >>> Richard Spalding & Henny Thompson. >>> I asked Linda Reno. >>> She also had her as a Thompson. >>> Before I go to print - was wife #2 a Miss Henrietta Abell ? a Miss >>> Henrietta Thompson ? or a widowed Mrs. Thompson, who had been an Abell ? >>> I want to get this correct. >>> Thanks ! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. My understanding is that the 1772 marriage for Henrietta Abell and Thomas Thompson is from the Jesuits--they were married at St. FX RCC in SMC. John D. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM, David Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: >> I have Richard Spalding's 1st wife as Henrietta Hamilton, married 28 >> Jul 1801 in Washington County, KY. Bond for marriage to Henrietta (1st >> wife) signed 7-25-1801 with John Gordon Smith as surety. Wedding by >> Father Michael J. C. Fournier. On this bond, she is named as a >> Hamilton. > > These 2 are the parents of Archbishop Spalding. This agrees w/ what I found > from an on-line Abell link to the Archbishop's bio  + info sent to me by > Linda Reno. > >> I have Richard Spalding's 2nd wife as Henrietta Abell, dau of Samuel >> Abell, Sr. and Susanna, who married Thomas Thompson in 1772 then >> Richard on 20 Jan 1817. Their marriage bond was signed 1-12-1817 with >> Francis Simms as surety. Her Abell index Ref. # 5-15-32. > > I'm a bit confused here. The on-line Abell genealogy page says she was born > in 1786. She couldn't have been married in 1772 - something's wrong here. > After she & Richard married in 1817, she had 5 children.  If born in 1786, > she was in her 30s when most of these children were born. > But if she was first married in 1772, she had to have been at least born by > 1755. That would have made her in her 60s when she had these children. Not > likely. > > If her first husband was Thomas Thompson .......  if we had a better > marriage date for her 1st marriage to him, this would solve this ABELL vs. > THOMPSON problem. > >> His 3rd wife was Mary Charlton, married 15 Feb 1827 in Washington >> County, KY.  Both he and Mary show up in the 1850 census of Marion >> County, KY. > > This also agrees with what I found. Both Richard & Mary died in 1850 - so > they must have lived just long enough to get on the census. > > Thanks for this info, Randy. > Can you clear up the marriage date for Thomas Thompson & Henrietta Abell ? > Do you agree that Henrietta was born in 1786 rather than at some point in > the 1750s ? > Any idea when Thomas died ? > > David > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "C Greenwell" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:53 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Richard Spalding - Father of Archbishop Spalding > >> Hi List, >> >> This should be a great discussion. >> >> I have Richard Spalding's 1st wife as Henrietta Hamilton, married 28 >> Jul 1801 in Washington County, KY. Bond for marriage to Henrietta (1st >> wife) signed 7-25-1801 with John Gordon Smith as surety. Wedding by >> Father Michael J. C. Fournier. On this bond, she is named as a >> Hamilton. >> >> I have Richard Spalding's 2nd wife as Henrietta Abell, dau of Samuel >> Abell, Sr. and Susanna, who married Thomas Thompson in 1772 then >> Richard on 20 Jan 1817. Their marriage bond was signed 1-12-1817 with >> Francis Simms as surety. Her Abell index Ref. # 5-15-32. >> >> >> >> Sources: >> 1. The Abell Index >> Author: William Russell Abell, John Wathen Abell and Victor A. Abell >> Publication: West Lafayette, Indiana, 1994 >> Note: The Genealogical Index of the Abell Families of Maryland and >> Kentucky and Their Descendants. >> >> 2. Book Title: Thomas Mattingly II.FTW >> >> 3. Roy Abell's web site >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=t1049&id=I00346 >> >> >> Randy >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, David Roberts <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I'm doing a bio of Archbishop Spalding for the Spring 2010 "Generator." >>> The Archbishop was son of wife #1 - that's no problem - Henrietta >>> Hamilton from Charles County. >>> I found one Abell site that lists Richard's 2nd wife was Henrietta Abell >>> { 1st step-mother of the future Archbishop} >>> Find-A-Grave, however, says she was a Thompson - has picture of her grave >>> at Holy Name of Mary cemetery. >>> The lady who posted those graves gave a citation to the marriage of >>> Richard Spalding & Henny Thompson. >>> I asked Linda Reno. >>> She also had her as a Thompson. >>> Before I go to print - was wife #2 a Miss Henrietta Abell ? a Miss >>> Henrietta Thompson ? or a widowed Mrs. Thompson, who had been an Abell ? >>> I want to get this correct. >>> Thanks ! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >