Linda I think that there were too many Basil Smiths and people merged data based on name alone. The Basil Smith you listed was born 6 Aug 1784 per your reference. In 1810 Census for MD there are 5 Basil Smith head of house.The one in St. Mary's Co. was over 45(bef 1765) as were the ones in Anne Arundle, Calvert & Montgomery Counties. The one in Charles Co was 26-44 so could fit your man. Mary Eleanor Mitchell m. Basil Smith, 27 Jun 1813, St. Mary's Co., MD was he the one over 45? one from Charles Co.? or one that was not head of house in 1810? In 1830 Nelson Co., KY the oldest female in Basil Smith's house was 30-39 (b. aft 1790) so she could fit. What we do know is that in Nelson Co., KY 1850 & 1860 (all name) census Basil Smith b. 1789 MD (date does not fit youe ref.) wife was Ann b. 1796 PA (also fits 1830 census age). Their son James E(dward?) b. 1830 KY. In 1870 & 1880 Nelson Co. census he has son James E(dward?) b 1861 KY. In 1910 Nelson Co. census is a daughter Veronica b. 1902/03 KY. Based on these records I think Vera's ancestor Basil was born in 1789 not 1784 & I don't think Mary Eleanor Mitchell was her ancestor. There was a Basil Smith on 1800 Tax list & census in Washington Co., KY. but he would have been too old. There was a Basil Smith that married Easter Gates 16 Jan 1806 in Washington Co., KY that could fit but does not feel right. Even if Washington Co. & Nelson Co. share a border. I think that Basil Smith b. 1789 MD (what county?) in migrating to KY paused when passing thru PA & married Ann LNU. This was on the normal route to KY. What do you think? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Reno" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Basil Smith > Shirley, > > We had no orphanages here. As close as we got was the Alms and Workhouse. > I > find no record of him there, but I did find this: > > 2/1802: James Griggs petitioned the court to have Basil Smith, age 18 on > the 6th day of August next bound to him until the age of 21 to learn the > occupation of pilot--granted (Orphan Ct. Rec., Fenwick). Griggs would have > petitioned the court because Basil was an orphan and under the age of 18, > otherwise he would have been bound with the consent of his father or > another > adult family member. > > As far as him joining the Army--that's a bid misleading. Our men didn't > join > the regular U.S. Army, but during that war two local regiments were > formed--the 12th and the 45th. They were called out on an as-needed basis > as > the British marauded up and down the Patuxent, Potomac, Chesapeake Bay, > etc. > According to Regina Hammett (History of St. Mary's County), Basil Smith > served under Capt. James Jarboe, 12th Regt., War of 1812. > > I show Basil Smith as the son of Thomas Smith and Mary Potter and the Job > Smith below was probably his brother. > > Mortgage from Basil Smith to Job Smith for chattle, 7/30/1814. > > Deed from Job Smith to Basil Smith for "Mattapany Sewall", 6/25/1816. > > Deed from Basil Smith to Job Smith for the property of Thomas Smith, > deceased, "Part of Mattapany", 9/10/1822 (Chr. of SM). > > Deed to Job Smith from Richard Fenwick, Attorney for Basil Smith, for the > property of Thomas Smith, deceased, called "Part of Mattapany", 9/10/1822 > (Chr. of SM). > > I don't have his pension application from 1855, but would like to have it > if > possible. > > Linda Reno > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:36 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Basil Smith > > > The writer is Vera Mae Bowling Teague of Merced, CA b 15 Dec 1928, dau of > Joseph Sylvester Bowling & Mary Veronica Smith of Nelson Co, KY. > > Can anyone help her/us with Basil Smith? > > Shirley Platt & Jerry Bowling > > On Wed, 1/26/11, Vera Teague <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am again trying to get back to family search and wonder if you ever > heard of Beaver Dam in St. Marys Co. Maryland. I think the parents of my > Basil Smith may have lived there and they must of died as my Basil Smith > was > in an orphanage till he was 18 and went into the army. in the war of 1812 > before he married the widow Eleanor Downs, Mitchell. I heard she had > land > > and they sold it to move to Ky-- her and Basil...I have only a little > iinfo. on all of this. I dont guess ancestry would have any of that? > Are > you > still searching? I hope I can stay with it more this year even tho my > eyes > > are so much worse after the surgery last Apr. I hope you stay in > touch.....Vera in Merced > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dave, I think you're probably right. I did some backtracking. We know the Basil Smith who died in Nelson Co., KY was from St. Mary's County because his pension application from the War of 1812 says he was. We also know from the census records that he was born in 1789 vs. 1784. The information he provided on the 1850 and 1860 censuses is consistent. Whether he's the same guy who married Mary Eleanor (Downs) Mitchell, I don't know. BUT, at the time of the 1850 census, John Downs (from St. Mary's County) was living in the same neighborhood as Basil Smith in Nelson County--they're only a few houses apart. 1850, 2nd Dist., Nelson Co., KY: Basil Smith 61, farmer, b. MD Ann Smith 54, b. PA John Smith 20, b. KY Robert Smith 18, b. KY William Smith 16, b. KY James Smith 14, b. KY Stephen Smith 10, b. KY 1850, Nelson Co., KY: John Downs 88, b. MD Eleanor Downs 68, b. MD 4/17/1855: Basil Smith, age 67, resident of Nelson Co., KY; vol. at St. Mary's Co. Wit.: John H. Talbott, George W. Pollenger (Pottinger?). (War of 1812 Pension application, Nelson Co., KY). 1860, New Haven, Nelson Co., KY: Basil Smith 71, farmer, b. MD Ann Smith 63, b. PA Susan Willett 17, b. KY Steven Smith 20, b. KY Those who have KY records at their disposal may be able to solve this. I don't have anything further here. Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Basil Smith Linda I think that there were too many Basil Smiths and people merged data based on name alone. The Basil Smith you listed was born 6 Aug 1784 per your reference. In 1810 Census for MD there are 5 Basil Smith head of house.The one in St. Mary's Co. was over 45(bef 1765) as were the ones in Anne Arundle, Calvert & Montgomery Counties. The one in Charles Co was 26-44 so could fit your man. Mary Eleanor Mitchell m. Basil Smith, 27 Jun 1813, St. Mary's Co., MD was he the one over 45? one from Charles Co.? or one that was not head of house in 1810? In 1830 Nelson Co., KY the oldest female in Basil Smith's house was 30-39 (b. aft 1790) so she could fit. What we do know is that in Nelson Co., KY 1850 & 1860 (all name) census Basil Smith b. 1789 MD (date does not fit youe ref.) wife was Ann b. 1796 PA (also fits 1830 census age). Their son James E(dward?) b. 1830 KY. In 1870 & 1880 Nelson Co. census he has son James E(dward?) b 1861 KY. In 1910 Nelson Co. census is a daughter Veronica b. 1902/03 KY. Based on these records I think Vera's ancestor Basil was born in 1789 not 1784 & I don't think Mary Eleanor Mitchell was her ancestor. There was a Basil Smith on 1800 Tax list & census in Washington Co., KY. but he would have been too old. There was a Basil Smith that married Easter Gates 16 Jan 1806 in Washington Co., KY that could fit but does not feel right. Even if Washington Co. & Nelson Co. share a border. I think that Basil Smith b. 1789 MD (what county?) in migrating to KY paused when passing thru PA & married Ann LNU. This was on the normal route to KY. What do you think? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Reno" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Basil Smith > Shirley, > > We had no orphanages here. As close as we got was the Alms and Workhouse. > I > find no record of him there, but I did find this: > > 2/1802: James Griggs petitioned the court to have Basil Smith, age 18 on > the 6th day of August next bound to him until the age of 21 to learn the > occupation of pilot--granted (Orphan Ct. Rec., Fenwick). Griggs would have > petitioned the court because Basil was an orphan and under the age of 18, > otherwise he would have been bound with the consent of his father or > another > adult family member. > > As far as him joining the Army--that's a bid misleading. Our men didn't > join > the regular U.S. Army, but during that war two local regiments were > formed--the 12th and the 45th. They were called out on an as-needed basis > as > the British marauded up and down the Patuxent, Potomac, Chesapeake Bay, > etc. > According to Regina Hammett (History of St. Mary's County), Basil Smith > served under Capt. James Jarboe, 12th Regt., War of 1812. > > I show Basil Smith as the son of Thomas Smith and Mary Potter and the Job > Smith below was probably his brother. > > Mortgage from Basil Smith to Job Smith for chattle, 7/30/1814. > > Deed from Job Smith to Basil Smith for "Mattapany Sewall", 6/25/1816. > > Deed from Basil Smith to Job Smith for the property of Thomas Smith, > deceased, "Part of Mattapany", 9/10/1822 (Chr. of SM). > > Deed to Job Smith from Richard Fenwick, Attorney for Basil Smith, for the > property of Thomas Smith, deceased, called "Part of Mattapany", 9/10/1822 > (Chr. of SM). > > I don't have his pension application from 1855, but would like to have it > if > possible. > > Linda Reno > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:36 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Basil Smith > > > The writer is Vera Mae Bowling Teague of Merced, CA b 15 Dec 1928, dau of > Joseph Sylvester Bowling & Mary Veronica Smith of Nelson Co, KY. > > Can anyone help her/us with Basil Smith? > > Shirley Platt & Jerry Bowling > > On Wed, 1/26/11, Vera Teague <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am again trying to get back to family search and wonder if you ever > heard of Beaver Dam in St. Marys Co. Maryland. I think the parents of my > Basil Smith may have lived there and they must of died as my Basil Smith > was > in an orphanage till he was 18 and went into the army. in the war of 1812 > before he married the widow Eleanor Downs, Mitchell. I heard she had > land > > and they sold it to move to Ky-- her and Basil...I have only a little > iinfo. on all of this. I dont guess ancestry would have any of that? > Are > you > still searching? I hope I can stay with it more this year even tho my > eyes > > are so much worse after the surgery last Apr. I hope you stay in > touch.....Vera in Merced > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message