Gayle, Thanks for the reply, Thought I would ask. I too have "heard" that there was possibly a connection to the Edward Howard. Mary Ann Gayle Howard Londeree wrote: > I’m afraid I don’t know the father of William Howard (born about 1771 St. Mary’s, MD – died Nov 1859 New Haven, Nelson, KY). There are hints that he was related to the Edward Howard who led one group of Maryland Catholics to Kentucky. > He and Ann Clarke had children: > 1. Edmund/Edward Howard (abt 1795-aft 1820) m. Delphia Davis d/o Joshua Davis on 13 Feb 1816 Washington, KY (Kington & Sanders). Her 2nd m. William Catlin > 2. Elizabeth “Betsy” Ann Howard (14 Jun 1797-20 Oct 1886) m. 13 Jan 1817 Washington, KY, Johnny Boone (1788-1874) s/o Walter “Watty” Boone & Margaret Mildred “Peggy” Edelen > 3. Joseph Edward Howard (18 Mar 1799 – 11 Mar 1879) 1m. 7 Aug 1821 Washington, KY, Mariah “Mary” Elizabeth Pike (1807-1825), 2m. 5 Aug 1826 Nelson, KY, Elizabeth “Betsy” Greenwell > 4. Sarah Howard (26 Sep 1801 – 1 Sep 1884) m. 8 Jun 1819 Washington, KY, Joseph Pike > 5. Hillary Howard (1806-5 Jul 1851) m. 11 Jan 1827 Nelson, KY, Judith Tennill > 6. Susan Howard (abt 1812 – 1880) m. 22 Dec 1838 Daviess, KY, Dennis Davis Coomes > William Howard signed as a witness for the note of consent from an Edward Howard for his daughter Susannah Howard to wed Charles Boon (another son of Walter “Watty” Boon & Peggy Edelen) 23 Jan 1812 in Springfield, Nelson, KY. William Howard was bondsman for this marriage with Charles Boon. > I’m pretty sure that William Howard was the brother of James Howard of Hardin’s Creek (26 Jan 1767 St. Mary’s, MD – 26 Aug 1856 Marion, KY). James Howard’s son by Sarah Brewer Mattingly was Edward Joseph Howard (1817-1891). > We also have the letter from Boone Cyrus Howard (1865-1957), son of Austin, son of Joseph Edward (#3 above) that states they were brothers. > I speculate (just a conjecture – no proof at all!) that they were sons of Edward Howard, and brother of the Thomas Howard who left his land to the Church in his 1810 will. Perhaps the Edward Howard from Springfield was another brother. > I do think that they were cousins of some type to my James Howard of Prather’s Creek in Washington, KY, but until a male Howard of this line takes a DNA test it is also still a guess. > Gayle Howard Londeree > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Ann Shoemaker <[email protected]> > To: mdstmary <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2011 10:48 am > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] William Bowles > > > Gayle, > know you have done extensive research on the early Howards of Nelson > nd Washington Cos., KY > y any chance have you figured out who might be the father of William > oward m bef 1792 Anne Clarke, dau of Joseph Clarke, (Will Aug 6, 1796, > ro 9 May 1797, Nelson Co. KY) ? > He is one... of my blank walls. In the book "Passing Generations > 885-1903", p 17, by Carolyn Wimp, is the following: > Thursday , Nov 4, 1886 Betsy Boon of Near "Atherton ville, died on the > 0th of old age. She was born on Hardin's Creek, which is now in Marion > o., in 1792. Her FATHER WAS J. W. HOWARD, who was on of the first > ettler of KY. She was born shortly after her parents arrived from > aryland. In 1815 she married John Boone, a relative of Daniel > oone{totally incorrect,my comment} who died 10 to 12 years ago. She > as 94 year old" > The above is an abstract of deaths that were found in THE LARUE COUNTY > ERALD newspapers from 1885 to 1930. found on microfilm in the LaRue > o. Library in Hodgenville, KY. > After all of the above.. the bit about Daniel Boon is totally > ncorrect. John Boone was the son of Walter Boone of Charles Boon of Pr > eorge's Co. MD. > NELSON CO. KY CEMETERIES VOL. I, p 91s > oon, Elizabeth Howard b 14 June 1797, d 20 Oct 1886 > age 89 years > oon, John b 1780 d: 15June 1874 age 91 years. > They married in 1817. > In the above account her death date 1886, Oct 20 is correct. > he statement that John Boon died 10-12 years ago is also correct > aniel Boon totally incorrect. > er birth is incorrect according to the cemetery records.. her marriage > ate was 1817 instead of 1815 > There were family still living in 1886 who should have known the family > istory etc.?????. > My question FINALLY is what do we make of the statement > Her father was J. W. Howard one of the lst settlers of KY" William > oward does not show up on the tax or tithable lists of Nelson Co. VA > KY) or of Nelson/Washington Cos. KY until 1797 when he and his > rothers-in laws all appear for the first time on the tax lists. . > What do you think about the father being J. W. Howard? I have never > ound anything that pertained to William Howard other then just Wm?? > The Wm Howards 1800-1820 can be separated to the correct families.. > ust not my William Howard. > Joseph Clark just never appears on the tax list due to old age. All > ere probably in the Nelson co. area by 1796, as Joseph Clark's will is > ated Aug 1796. > Sorry know you know most of the above but wanted to put all in writing > tc.. > John Boone and Elizabeth (Betsy) Howard are my ancestors) > Appreciate any comments or ideas. > hanks > ary Ann Shoemaker > > ayle Howard Londeree wrote: > Thank you for sending all of this good information. > Gayle > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: clark8178 <[email protected]> > To: Dave Lee <[email protected]>; mdstmary <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2011 7:54 pm > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] William Bowles > > > > > Will in 'Washington Co. Ky G 116 > olds, William will 12/10/1838 probate 10/28/1839 > aughters Susannah Bolds, ANN MCBRIDE, Monica McLean, Mary Dugan, Taresy Bryan > on John Bolds heirs son in law James Dugan > o Jacob Tufner heirs and to Belinda Yates relationship not stated > randchildren Sinta Burnett, Bethelda Sherrel, Hewlet Bolds, Washington Bolds, > nd heirs of Joseph Bolds, Sevilly and Jane Bolds > x. My friend Thomas P Arvin > it. Richard H. Berry and Thomas Cambron > > ccording to "Pioneer History of Washington County" Wm. Bolds was a Rev. > ar vet. Also a native of ST. MARY'S COUNTY, MD. Said he was 91 in 1834. > his info came from a newspaper clipping, History of Washington County, > y O.W. Baylor, 14 Mar 1935. > > 778 -- Wm. Boulds and Ignatius Bowles took an oath of allegience to the > ew state of Maryland, as required by law. (Have copy of oath; from > atholic Families of Eastern MD., O'Rourke.) > > 785 -- (From Catholicity in Kentucky): a "league" of 60 Catholic > amilies (Maryland Land League), most from St. Mary's Co., MD, formed and > ledged to emigrate to KY. 25 families left in early 1785, reached KY by > pring. Settled in Pottiner's Creek lands. Three brothers, Ignatius, > illiam and John Bowles included. "The Bowles brothers, Ignatius, John > nd William, were upright and pious men, and greatly respected in the > ommunity." Interesting note: "It is a singular circumstance in the > istory of Catholic emigration to Kentucky, that the first colony of > migrants should have settled on lands that were, possibly, the least > nviting of any to be found in all Central Kentucky." Probably because of > nscrupulous speculators in Maryland who held the patents. > > 786 -- Shows up on Nelson Co., VA (now KY) tithables list. (Also 1788, > 790, Cpt. John Caldwell's Company, and 1791, with a negro named > harles.) > 12 Sep 1788, the Court "ordered that Bazell Hayden John > hillips and Wil. Bolles being sworn to appraise the estate of Ignatius > issell, decsd., and make a return thereof to the court." > > hows up on Washington Co. Tax Lists, 1792, 1794, 1795, 1796, 1797, 1799, > 800. Example, Tax List for 1792: William Bolds: 1 white male over 21, 1 > lack; 4 horses, 23 cattle, 115 acres. And 1795: Boulds, William, 1 white > ale over 21, 4 horses, 15 cattle, 115 acres on Beech Fork. > > 810, 1820, 1830 Washington Co. Census > 1 May 1798 -- Bowles (Bold), Barnerd Cissler, Charles Payne and Wm. > rewer pay 5 pounds for 2 acres and chapel for Roman Catholic Church. > aters of Pottinger's Creek. Wash. Co. Deed Book B, p. 120. Holy Cross > > atholic Church, FIRST CATHOLIC CHURCH IN KENTUCKY. Church built in 1792. > > Note that Catholicity book incorrectly calls William Bolds "William > ald.") > 2 Feb 1817 -- Buys land on Pottinger's Creek from Jacob Dupner for 100 > ounds. (Actually paid May 1814). (Book E, p. 330) > Pioneer History..." note: "To the names of soldiers of the American > evolution who settled in Washington County should be added ... William > olds.... William Bolds and Francis Payne were acquaintances and natives > f St. Mary's County, MD. They enlisted and were on their way to join the > rmy of Washington when Payne took sick and was discharged in Baltimore. > olds went on an served with Washington. (Payne later served.) Bolds was > 1 years of age in 1834." > > > > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "Dave Lee" <[email protected]> > o: [email protected] > ent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:29:57 AM > ubject: Re: [MDSTMARY] William Bowles > I thought that Wm. Bowles d. 17 Oct 1839, Washington Co., KY & Ignatius > owles m. Catherine Gough were s/o John Bowles & Monica Wooten. > think this was on this list a few years back. > Dave > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "Linda Reno" <[email protected]> > o: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > ent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:33 AM > ubject: Re: [MDSTMARY] William Bowles > > Gayle, > > If you're correct on the godparents, my guess would be that this William > Bowles was the son of John Bowles, Jr. and wife, Susanna. Ann (Gough) > Howard was William's 1st cousin, and if I've got the right William she was > also his sister-in-law as, Ignatius Bowles, brother of this William, > married > Catherine Gough, Ann's sister. > > Would this be the William Bowles who died 1839 in Washington Co., KY? His > wife's name wasn't given in his will. I have his wife as Mary Cissell > with > no notes at all. > > Linda Reno > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MDSTMARY] William Bowles > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: GayleLonderee > Surnames: Bowles, Howard, Gough > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.s > tmarys/4522/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I'm sorry if this has been answered before. If so, I missed it. > > The following is in the book "Catholic Families of Southern Maryland", in > the listing of Baptisms at St. Francis Xavier & St. Inigoes. > > 14 Mar 1779 - ______ Bowles of William and Catherine - Thomas and Ann > Howard > > I think the godparents were: > Thomas Howard (born about 1737 St. Mary's, Maryland - died between 28 > May-24 > Nov 1810 Nelson, Kentucky), son of Edward Howard, and his wife, > > Ann Gough Howard (born 1738 St. Mary's, Maryland-died 9 Mar 1836 Nelson , > Kentucky), daughter of Peter Gough and Eleanor Bowles. > > Questions: Is this William Bowles related to Ann Gough? How? Who were the > parents of William Bowles? Who was his wife Catherine? > > Thank you, > Gayle Howard Londeree > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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