So Eleanor was not a Gough? Another women in our line without a maiden name. My very early research had Gough listed. I will work on this line again. Any suggestions? I would love to give these women a name. Thank you ________________________________ From: "clark8178@comcast.net" <clark8178@comcast.net> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, January 5, 2013 3:43:20 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] RICHARD LANGHORN CLARK Cathy, We do not know mother's maiden name of Richard Langhorn Clarke. it was an Eleanor, but it was not Eleanor Gough. Richard Langhorn Clarke was born 1749/1750 and was Christened in 1753. He is listed on inventory of his Step Father John Basil Greenwell as son in Law Richard Clark His sister was a Jane Clark listed as a daughter in law (actually she was a Step Daughter) of John Basil Greenwell. John Basil Greenwell married Eleanor ? the widow of John Clarke Father of Richard Langhorn Clarke Maryland Calendar of Wills Greenwell, John Basil, St. Mary's County10 Sept. 1761 13 Oct, 1761 to son Joshua Greenwell, 100 Acres called Evans Quarter, wheron I now dwell, after wife Eleanor Greenwell dies, and in case of no such heirs, then to son James Greenwell and heirs., and in case no issue, then to Richard Langhorn Clark, son on law to him forever. To son James Greenwell, Tract wheron Wm. Medcalf now dwells, called Piles Wood Lane, 200 acres., and if he died without issue, to son Joshua Greenwell. To son James Greenwell, Slaves. To Daughter., in law(unnamed) and son in law Richard Clark, 7001lbs of Tobacco. Extrx. Wife. Witnesses: Monia Medley, Mary Norris, James Pike. Inventory 1756 Liber 61 folio 341 Account 1758 Liber 42 folio 93 Inventory of John Clarke 1756 Liber 61 folio 341 St. Mary's County, Maryland Those names listed as Witnesses and next of Kin: John Wiseman Greenwell (1st cousin), John Baptist Greenwell (1st cousin), Abraham Clarke (Brother), Enoch Combs, John Cole, Henry Greenwell Jr. (1st cousin) and James Gough, and James Pike Account of John Clarke 1758 Liber 42 folio 93 St. Mary's County, Maryland Prerogative Court Abstracts 1755-1760 page 9 John Clark 61.324 SM £78.16.1 Aug 14 1756 Appraisers: John Cole, James Pike. Creditors: Enoch Combs, A. Barnes Next of Kin: John Wiseman Greenwell, John Baptist Greenwell. John Wiseman Greenwell and John Baptist Greenwell were brothers of John Basil Greenwell and sons of John Greenwell and Catherine Wiseman. they were all 1st cousins to John Clarke son of Thomas Clarke and Grace GREENWELL. Grace Greenwell (Clarke) was the sister of John Greenwell who married Catherine WISEMAN). Administrators/Executors: John Baptist Greenwell and his wife Elinor Greenwell. Abstracts of the Balance Books of the Prerogative Court of Maryland - Libers 2 and 3, 1755-1763 by V.L. Skinner. Jr. , Brookeville, Maryland 20833 , Page 26 John Clark 2.93 D QA £ 95.15.5 AUG 1, 1758 Sureties: Clement Medley, Jr., John Jarbo. Distribution to: Widow(unnamed, 1/3). Residue to orphans: John, Richard. Administrator/Executor: Elinor Greenwell, wife of John Basil Greenwell. Found these old notes: Robert and Mary Cole were godparents to Wilfred Clarke in 1770. This Robert Cole was the one who married first, Ann Greenwell (dau. of Thomas Greenwell and his first wife, Mary Medley) and second, Sarah (Elizabeth) by 1771. Mary Cole was probably the single daughter of Robert Cole (see his will below). Robert Cole was the son of Robert Cole and Elizabeth Tant. Will of Robert Cole, SMC 11/26/1771-12/2/1771. Wife: Sarah, alias Elizabeth. Children: Eleanor, Elizabeth, Mary. If any of these 3 die before marriage or not arrive at age, estate may go to survivors of these 4: Eleanor, Elizabeth, Mary, Henrietta Hayden. Son-in-law: Robert Mattingly. Granddaughter: Elizabeth Mattingly. Heirs of daughters: Jane Mattingly and Margaret Melton, both deceased. Execs: Sons-in-law, Robert Mattingly, Richard Melton, Basil Hayden. Wit: James Roach, Clement Hayden, William Hayden. I haven't been able to identify who the Elizabeth Gough might be that was a godparent with Raphael Greenwell to Cornelius Clarke. Jeremiah Newton, baptized 10/12/1771, son of Joseph Newton (son of Clement Newton who d. 1760). Note that Clement Newton also had a son named Alban or Albian Newton and that Richard and Chloe Clarke also had a son named Albin. Joseph Newton's wife was Mildred and after looking at the data, I'm pretty sure she was Mildred Knott, dau. of William Knott and Ann Mattingly (dau. of Thomas Mattingly (d. 1714) and Elizabeth ____. Ursula Greenwell, dau. of Edward and Catherine. I can't identify the parents of this Edward. Was he Edmund rather than Edward? Edward and Catherine also had a daughter named Rosa who was baptized 6/23/1771, GP: Richard Clarke and Sarah Greenwell. 2/1791: Citation ordered against Eleanor Halket (Hackett?) to show cause why she detains in her hands the property of Edward Greenwell. (Orphan Ct. Rec.,Fenwick). 3/1791: Ursula Greenwell, admx. of Edward Greenwell vs. Eleanor Halket for detention of property of Edward Greenwell. (Orphan Ct. Rec., Fenwick). Anybody know who this Eleanor Halket could be? Can anyone add new data to all of this? Richard Langhorn Clarke who was born about 1749/50 in St. Mary's County, Maryland and moved to Nelson County, Ky about 1790 10/12/1771: Baptism of Jeremiah Newton, son of Joseph and Mildred. GP: Richard and Cloe Clarke. (Jesuit Missions). Baptism of Rosa Greenwell, dau. of Edward and Catherine, 6/23/1771. GP: Richard Clarke and Sarah Greenwell. (Jesuit Missions). 3/1774: Baptism of Ursula Greenwell, dau. of Edward and Catherine. GP: Richard and Cloe Clarke. (Jesuit Missions). Linda Reno Jerry L. Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Blass" <jocath68@yahoo.com> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 12:43:29 PM Subject: [MDSTMARY] RICHARD LANGHORN CLARK My ancestor is Richard Langhorn Clark. All I know about is wife is that her name was Chloe, no maiden name. Has anyone else who might have come across Richard found out his wife's maiden name? Richard's parents were John Clark and Eleanor Gough. Richard was barn around 1753 in Maryland. The family ends up in Kentucky. Any ideas or suggestions on how to find out her maiden name? Thank you. 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A couple of years ago I attempted to map out the current location of Maidstone by inputting the metes & bounds of various tracts found in deeds & surveys into a program called Deed Mapper. I'd also purchased several plat maps for Charles Co. to help place the tracts. Over the years, many tracts or parts of the original tract, were resurveyed & combined with other tracts & vacant land into new patents with new names. As these larger tracts were sold off or divided, the names changed once again in the deeds. Bristol was patented in 1679 for John Waters with 100 acres. By his will in 1692 he left 50 acres of Bristol to sons James, Joseph & Lewis. The 1783 Assessment shows Joseph Waters in possession of 50 acres part of Bristol & in 1795 Joseph sold 43 acres to his son Zephania Waters & 3 acres to James Waters Sr (his brother?) I've traced this further, but that is another story. In 1783 John O'Bryan was possessed with 47 acres of part of Bristol. Don't know what happened to the other 3 acres of the 50 mention in William O'Bryan's will, nor have I figured out how William came to own it. Also in 1783 John O'Bryan had 60 acres of Bryans Hazard, 60 acres of Piney Level & 10 acres of Grays Enlargement. I don't know anything about Bryans Hazard (can't even find a patent for it), but John had purchased Piney Level & Grays Enlargement from Samuel Hanson in 1780 (Deed bk V 3 folio 473) John O'Bryan wrote his will 29 Dec 1783 and was probated 10 Feb 1784. He mentions wife Mary & sons William & Charles. Executors were his wife & brother Basil O'Bryan. Witnessed by James Carrico son of John & Timothy Farrand. Deed Book IB 10 folio 297 in 1813 shows Reverend William O'Bryan, Mary Ann O'Bryan & Basil O'Bryan selling Bristol, Piney Level & Grays Enlargement to Thomas Gibbons Waters & Vincent King both of Georgetown, Washington, DC. The deed states that Bristol contained 156 acres, mentions a Mill Seat & also Waters Mill. (The 3 acres of Bristol mentioned above as being sold by Joseph Waters to James Waters contained a mill.) Deed also shows Piney Level being 64 acres & Grays Enlargement as 14 acres. In 1827 Thomas G. Waters recevied a patent for Three Brothers containing 532 acres. This was a resurvey of numerous tracts including Bristol, Piney Level & Grays Enlargement. The patent records at Plats.net contains 42 pages. on the 21st page is a drawing of the metes & bounds of the following adjoining tracts: Bristol, Piney Level, Grays Enlargement, Loving Brothers, Farrands Fortune, Thomas' Folly, Thomas' Begining, & Dispute. In 1828 Thomas Carrico started buying up tracts of land in Charles Co., MD. In the 1840's, by 3 different deeds from heirs of Thomas G. Waters, he had come to own 344 acres of the Three Brothers. By the time he died in 1881, he owned, or had owned much of the land west of Hughesville including parts of Gates Range, Maidstone, Loving Brothers etc. which were then devided amongst his many children. His daughter Servilla recieved the 344 acres of Three Brothers as part of her share. I was able to track the sale of Three Brothers down to the current owner. One of the deeds indicated it was on both sides of the road from Dentsville to Hughsville which appears to be Burnt Store Rd. Again, looking at my plat maps, the land is on Burnt Store Rd, just east of Oliver Shop Rd & North west of Gilbert Pond. Gates Range was just west of Hughesville with the eastern shape following the same course as Rt. 5 almost like a backwards C (not sure how else to describe.) Maidstone was towards the center of Gates Range (along with Canterbury) just north or perhaps even including part of present day Gilbert Pond. So, to make a long story short, Bristol was in the near vicinity of the land I mentioned below. AND, I think the William Bryan who married Elizabeth Douglass is a different William Byran than the William O'Bryan who owned Bristol. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamey McLoughlin" <jameymclo@comcast.net> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] O'Bryan in Maryland > William Bryan who married Elizabeth Douglass owned "Bristol". Is that part > of this land? > > -----Original Message----- > > In 1779 Rev. Bennet Neal sold to Thomas Withenton (Wethington) 79 acres of > Gates Range. book V 3 folio 389. > In 1794 Thomas Wethington's son finalized a resurvey of the 79 acres into > Withintons Chance with a anew total of 139 acres. > In 1795 Thomas Wethington's descendants sold to Thomas Water's 2/3 of this > land Book N 4 folio 363. > Among the heirs were Ignatius O'Bryan & Rhoday his wife, Basil O"Bryan & > Eleanor his wife. > > I've more, but to conclude, I think the William Bryan we are discussing > lived in Trinity Parish all or most of his life and couldn't be the William > Bryant who married Elizabeth Douglas. > > Linda

Thanks, Mike, for the additional information. My Stourton Edwards line connects to Joseph Edwards who died in North Carolina in 1794. It doesn't appear that Rev. John Edwards of Baltimore County was directly related to the Joseph Edwards families in Saint Marys, does it? The Reverend is identified as a native of County Brecon (Brecknock) in Wales in the book referenced by Ms. Hanigan. Did Philip Key of Charles Co. connect to the Joseph Edwards families, also? (as well as to Rev. John Edwards' godson John Stokes?) Was looking at your Charles County families website and was glad to identify Margaret "Margery" Mainwaring, widow of Richard Gardiner, as the wife of Robert Stourton who died in 1715. (Although you don't have her listed as Stourton's wife, the records you list under Margaret show the connection as "Stortan", "Horton," and "Hortoun.") Thanks very much! Regards, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike marshall" <mrmarsha2004@yahoo.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] two other testators named John Edwards note "kinsman Philip Key, of Charles Co" === Stokes, John, Baltimore Co., 2nd March, 1727 ; 5th Sept., 1732. To son George and hrs., pt. of "Montserada," bou. of Edward Parrish, who had bou. it of Henry Ward, Cecil Co.; 200 A. "Ebenezar's Lott," Deare Ck.; also "Harman's Towne," or commonly called "The Ferry," excepting 100 A. bou. of Wm. Simpson; and personalty. To son John and hrs., 100 A. afsd.; 400 A. "Bourne," tract bou. of Joseph Johnson; 220 A. "Johnson's Delay," 100 A. "Simpson's Hazard"; and personalty. To son Humphry and hrs., land in Maryland or elsewhere not otherwise bequeathed; also house and lot at Joppa, on Gunpowder R.; and personalty. To dau. Frances, now wife of Aquilla Paca, 10s., she having received a portion at marriage. To 3 sons afsd., personal estate after their mother's portion is deducted. To kinsman Philip Key, of Charles Co., and Thomas White, overseers, £5 each. Exs.: Wife and 3 sons afsd. Test: Erick Erickson, John Erickson, Zacharias Spencer, Casparum Erickson. 20, 444. === Baltimore County Circuit Court Land Surveys and Condominium Plats Addition to Westwood, 100 Acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: Strawbridge, John 1695 Patent Record C 3, p. 547 0 0 MSA S 1582-539 Addition to Westwood, 100 Acres; Patent Developer/Owner: Strawbridge, John 1695 Patent Record C 3, p. 548 0 0 MSA S 1582-540 Westwood, 200 Acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: Scudamore, Thomas and Tobias Stansbury 1744 Patent Record 22, p. 287 0 0 MSA S 1582-10888 Westwood, 200 Acres; Patent Developer/Owner: Scudamore, Thomas and Tobias Stansbury 1744 Patent Record IB and IL C, p. 329 0 0 MSA S 1582-10889 Westwood, 200 Acres; Patent Developer/Owner: Scudamore, Thomas and Tobias Stansbury 1744 Patent Record PT 2, p. 56 0 0 MSA S 1582-10890 === Same John Stokes Jr? Smith, Simon (nunc.), Charles County, ==== ; 30th June, 1730. To son Simon and dau. Sarah, entire estate equally; son John and son-in-law Richard Wilson (who married dau, [unnamed]) to have no part therein, having received their full shares. Test: John Stokes (Aged about 23). 20.40, mm/ KSA >________________________________ > From: Daniel B. Troublefield <dantrouble@comporium.net> >To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 8:57 AM >Subject: [MDSTMARY] two other testators named John Edwards > >Hi Randy, > >I was browsing recorded wills for Edwards in St. Mary's County on >FamilySearch >and came across a couple of more testators named John Edwards: > >(1) Who was this John Edwards (of John) who died in 1782? >(If the answer is in the list archives, I didn't find it.) This is a >different man from John who died in 1784. I looked at that 1784 John's >will, >also. > >John Edwards (of John), last will, dated 16 Oct 1782, proved 20 Nov 1782 >Wife Margaret (executrix) and two sons John and Henry (younger of two sons) >Dwelling plantation to wife for life or widowhood, then to son John who is >to pay £200 to son Henry >https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24308-31280-70?cc=1803986&wc=M9MV-NDK:n1055579305 >Maryland, Register of Wills Books, 1629-1983, St. Mary's,Wills 1777-1820 >vol >1-3 >Image 115 of 743 images (F.H.L. Film #W.K. 28011) >Liber JJ No. 1, pages 208-209 >----------------- > >(2) Nor do I have any idea who this earlier John Edwards in 1710 was: > >John Edwards, will dated 1 Jan 1710/11, St. Mary's, Liber P.C. No. 1, Page >175 >No mention of wife or children or any other family members. >Exrs: Rev. Thos. Lockeshirt(?) & Rev. Richd Scot Clark >Land called "Westwood" in Baltimore to my godson John Stoakes >Wit: Charles Hodgkin, Charles Neale (mark), Mary Connery (mark) > >Regards, Dan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "C Greenwell" <cgreenwell01@gmail.com> >To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:09 AM >Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards > > >> Hi Don, >> >> I think I have been down this road before and have the 2 John Edwards >> mixed up. In any case here is the will of John Edwards (d. 1784) >> whose daughter, Elizabeth Turner, married Thomas Edwards. >> >> Will of John Edwards JJ#1 f279 3/1784; prob. 7/29/1784 >> Son, Stourten Edwards "Tainton Dean" >> Son, John the land devised to my wife after her death. >> 3 daus.: Elizabeth Turner Edwards, Mary Magdalene Dent, Susanna Edwards. >> Son-in-law Thomas Edwards 1/3 my mill until my son, John reaches age 21. >> Wife, Sarah Edwards "Wednesday's Project", "Higgs His Purchase" & >> "Edwards Backland with Addition" >> Granddau.: Sarah Dent >> Grandson: Elkanah Edwards >> Exec is wife, Sarah Edwards >> witn: Benjamin Edwards, Benjamin Suit, George Dent >> >> Randy >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 AM, C Greenwell <cgreenwell01@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> I have her as the daughter of John Edwards and Sarah Reeves. >>> >>> Final Account of John Edwards, CC Accounts 1791-1798, p. 334; 31 Oct >>> 1796 >>> Admin: Sarah Edwards >>> To: Due to Ann Sothoron tobacco due form note dated 22 Aug 1789 >>> To: Due to Samuel Morton >>> To: Due to Dr. Basil Warring >>> To: Due to Briscoe and Hammerly >>> To: Due to William Cartwright >>> To: Due to Jerimiah Jordon >>> To: Due to John Forbes >>> To: Due to Dyson and Cooksley >>> To: Due to Sheriff >>> To; Due to John Muschett >>> To: Widow 1/3 >>> To: 7 children, Susanna, Elizabeth Turner, Eleanor Wilson, Mary, Anna, >>> Jean, Charles; the first 2 of age and the rest under aged. >>> (Source: My Transscription) >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Donald Drury <ddrury5840@sbcglobal.net> >>> wrote: >>>> Thanks Linda. >>>> >>>> Now does anyone else have any information about the parents of >>>> Elizabeth >>>> T. >>>> Edwards who died 11/7/1850 in Mercer County Kentucky? >>>> >>>> Thanks to all, >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> >>>> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Wed, January 2, 2013 9:57:23 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards >>>> >>>> Don, >>>> >>>> The answer is no. Elizabeth Turner Edwards died prior to 1804 as Thomas >>>> Edwards married Jemima Dickens 10 Feb 1804. Thomas Edwards died about >>>> 1812. >>>> >>>> >From Judith Burger, 8/24/2004: >>>> >>>> WASHINGTON COUNTY, KY WILLS 1792-1853, Faye Sea Sanders, 1987, >>>> Louisville, >>>> Kentucky, p. 19. Edwards, Thomas - Div/estate 22 Dec 1812 11 Jan 1813 >>>> Bk >>>> B:210. Heirs: Jemima Edwards, widow. Josiah, Elkany, Stanton (sic), >>>> John, >>>> Nancy, Joseph, Henry, Hezekiah, Rhody, William and Charles Edwards. By: >>>> Edward Rutter:, Phil Washburn, James Scanland. >>>> >>>> Linda Reno >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Donald Drury >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:01 AM >>>> To: mdstmary-l@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards >>>> >>>> Hi Linda and list, >>>> >>>> Hope your holiday season was happy and enjoyable. >>>> >>>> About 18 months ago you posted the following: >>>> >>>> ************************* >>>> I am looking at this John Edwards, son of Joseph Edwards amd Mary: >>>>> > >>>>> > Will of John Edwards JJ#1 f279 3/1784; prob. 7/29/1784 >>>>> > Son, Stourten Edwards "Tainton Dean" >>>>> > Son, John the land devised to my wife after her death. >>>>> > 3 daus.: Elizabeth Turner Edwards, Mary Magdalene Dent, Susnna >>>>> > Edwards. >>>>> > Son-in-law Thomas Edwards 1/3 my mill until my son, John reaches age >>>>> > 21. >>>>> > Wife, Sarah Edwards "Wednesday's Project", "Higgins Purchase" & >>>>> > "Edwards Backland with Addition" >>>>> > Granddau.: Sarah Dent >>>>> > Grandson: Elkanah Edwards >>>>> > Exec is wife, Sarah Edwards >>>>> > Witn: Benjamin Edwards, Benjamin Suit, George Dent >>>>> > >>>>> > Now some say that he first married Elizabeth Carter then Sarah >>>>> > Reeves. >>>>> > >>>>> > Elizabeth Turner Edwards, dau. of John Edwards Sr (d.1784). & Sarah >>>>> > Reeves. Elizabeth Turner Edwards 1st husband, Thomas Edwards died >>>>> > 1806 >>>>> > in Wash. Co., Ky. >>>>> > Thomas Edwards m. first, Elizabeth Turner Edwards (and I have her >>>>> > mother as Elizabeth Carter--the first wife) and second, Elizabeth >>>>> > Chappelear, dau. of James Chappelear and Elizabeth Dent. >>>>> > The will of Nathan Chappelear (unmarried brother of Elizabeth) dated >>>>> > 10/25/1807 devised part of his estate to his sister, Elizabeth >>>>> > Edwards, wife of Thomas Edwards. >>>>> > Linda Reno >>>> ******************************** >>>> My question is could the Elizabeth Turner Edwards referenced in your >>>> post be >>>> the >>>> same one who married (apparently second) William Drury (abt >>>> 1777-2/26/1851) >>>> in >>>> 1819? I have tentatively placed him as William s/o John Drury (d. >>>> 1797)? >>>> They >>>> all seem to have been in Kentucky by this time. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any clarification you can provide. >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Cathy, We do not know mother's maiden name of Richard Langhorn Clarke. it was an Eleanor, but it was not Eleanor Gough. Richard Langhorn Clarke was born 1749/1750 and was Christened in 1753. He is listed on inventory of his Step Father John Basil Greenwell as son in Law Richard Clark His sister was a Jane Clark listed as a daughter in law (actually she was a Step Daughter) of John Basil Greenwell. John Basil Greenwell married Eleanor ? the widow of John Clarke Father of Richard Langhorn Clarke Maryland Calendar of Wills Greenwell, John Basil, St. Mary's County10 Sept. 1761 13 Oct, 1761 to son Joshua Greenwell, 100 Acres called Evans Quarter, wheron I now dwell, after wife Eleanor Greenwell dies, and in case of no such heirs, then to son James Greenwell and heirs., and in case no issue, then to Richard Langhorn Clark, son on law to him forever. To son James Greenwell, Tract wheron Wm. Medcalf now dwells, called Piles Wood Lane, 200 acres., and if he died without issue, to son Joshua Greenwell. To son James Greenwell, Slaves. To Daughter., in law(unnamed) and son in law Richard Clark, 7001lbs of Tobacco. Extrx. Wife. Witnesses: Monia Medley, Mary Norris, James Pike. Inventory 1756 Liber 61 folio 341 Account 1758 Liber 42 folio 93 Inventory of John Clarke 1756 Liber 61 folio 341 St. Mary's County, Maryland Those names listed as Witnesses and next of Kin: John Wiseman Greenwell (1st cousin), John Baptist Greenwell (1st cousin), Abraham Clarke (Brother), Enoch Combs, John Cole, Henry Greenwell Jr. (1st cousin) and James Gough, and James Pike Account of John Clarke 1758 Liber 42 folio 93 St. Mary's County, Maryland Prerogative Court Abstracts 1755-1760 page 9 John Clark 61.324 SM £78.16.1 Aug 14 1756 Appraisers: John Cole, James Pike. Creditors: Enoch Combs, A. Barnes Next of Kin: John Wiseman Greenwell, John Baptist Greenwell. John Wiseman Greenwell and John Baptist Greenwell were brothers of John Basil Greenwell and sons of John Greenwell and Catherine Wiseman. they were all 1st cousins to John Clarke son of Thomas Clarke and Grace GREENWELL. Grace Greenwell (Clarke) was the sister of John Greenwell who married Catherine WISEMAN). Administrators/Executors: John Baptist Greenwell and his wife Elinor Greenwell. Abstracts of the Balance Books of the Prerogative Court of Maryland - Libers 2 and 3, 1755-1763 by V.L. Skinner. Jr. , Brookeville, Maryland 20833 , Page 26 John Clark 2.93 D QA £ 95.15.5 AUG 1, 1758 Sureties: Clement Medley, Jr., John Jarbo. Distribution to: Widow(unnamed, 1/3). Residue to orphans: John, Richard. Administrator/Executor: Elinor Greenwell, wife of John Basil Greenwell. Found these old notes: Robert and Mary Cole were godparents to Wilfred Clarke in 1770. This Robert Cole was the one who married first, Ann Greenwell (dau. of Thomas Greenwell and his first wife, Mary Medley) and second, Sarah (Elizabeth) by 1771. Mary Cole was probably the single daughter of Robert Cole (see his will below). Robert Cole was the son of Robert Cole and Elizabeth Tant. Will of Robert Cole, SMC 11/26/1771-12/2/1771. Wife: Sarah, alias Elizabeth. Children: Eleanor, Elizabeth, Mary. If any of these 3 die before marriage or not arrive at age, estate may go to survivors of these 4: Eleanor, Elizabeth, Mary, Henrietta Hayden. Son-in-law: Robert Mattingly. Granddaughter: Elizabeth Mattingly. Heirs of daughters: Jane Mattingly and Margaret Melton, both deceased. Execs: Sons-in-law, Robert Mattingly, Richard Melton, Basil Hayden. Wit: James Roach, Clement Hayden, William Hayden. I haven't been able to identify who the Elizabeth Gough might be that was a godparent with Raphael Greenwell to Cornelius Clarke. Jeremiah Newton, baptized 10/12/1771, son of Joseph Newton (son of Clement Newton who d. 1760). Note that Clement Newton also had a son named Alban or Albian Newton and that Richard and Chloe Clarke also had a son named Albin. Joseph Newton's wife was Mildred and after looking at the data, I'm pretty sure she was Mildred Knott, dau. of William Knott and Ann Mattingly (dau. of Thomas Mattingly (d. 1714) and Elizabeth ____. Ursula Greenwell, dau. of Edward and Catherine. I can't identify the parents of this Edward. Was he Edmund rather than Edward? Edward and Catherine also had a daughter named Rosa who was baptized 6/23/1771, GP: Richard Clarke and Sarah Greenwell. 2/1791: Citation ordered against Eleanor Halket (Hackett?) to show cause why she detains in her hands the property of Edward Greenwell. (Orphan Ct. Rec.,Fenwick). 3/1791: Ursula Greenwell, admx. of Edward Greenwell vs. Eleanor Halket for detention of property of Edward Greenwell. (Orphan Ct. Rec., Fenwick). Anybody know who this Eleanor Halket could be? Can anyone add new data to all of this? Richard Langhorn Clarke who was born about 1749/50 in St. Mary's County, Maryland and moved to Nelson County, Ky about 1790 10/12/1771: Baptism of Jeremiah Newton, son of Joseph and Mildred. GP: Richard and Cloe Clarke. (Jesuit Missions). Baptism of Rosa Greenwell, dau. of Edward and Catherine, 6/23/1771. GP: Richard Clarke and Sarah Greenwell. (Jesuit Missions). 3/1774: Baptism of Ursula Greenwell, dau. of Edward and Catherine. GP: Richard and Cloe Clarke. (Jesuit Missions). Linda Reno Jerry L. Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Blass" <jocath68@yahoo.com> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 12:43:29 PM Subject: [MDSTMARY] RICHARD LANGHORN CLARK My ancestor is Richard Langhorn Clark. All I know about is wife is that her name was Chloe, no maiden name. Has anyone else who might have come across Richard found out his wife's maiden name? Richard's parents were John Clark and Eleanor Gough. Richard was barn around 1753 in Maryland. The family ends up in Kentucky. Any ideas or suggestions on how to find out her maiden name? Thank you. Cathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dan, common family surnames came into existence long before our ancestors arrived in Maryland. I am not sure where you are looking but sometimes the naming pattern: John Edwards (of John)" Is used in documents to help the reader differentiate among commonly used first names within family groups. Mike On 1/4/2013 11:58 PM, Daniel B. Troublefield wrote: > Hello List, > > General question: Is the Welsh custom of naming sons after their fathers, > the reason for all the St. Mary's records of names as "John Edwards (of > John)", Joseph Edwards (of Ignatius), Joseph (of Benjamin), etc.? > The Joseph Edwards' ancestry was Welsh, from what I've read. In Welsh, John > (of John) would be more like "Ieuan ap Ieuan" or something like that, I > think, where "ap" means "son of" in Cymric. > > Dan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Mike and Karen Gough ltcolmichaelj@bellsouth.net

William Bryan who married Elizabeth Douglass owned "Bristol". Is that part of this land? -----Original Message----- In 1779 Rev. Bennet Neal sold to Thomas Withenton (Wethington) 79 acres of Gates Range. book V 3 folio 389. In 1794 Thomas Wethington's son finalized a resurvey of the 79 acres into Withintons Chance with a anew total of 139 acres. In 1795 Thomas Wethington's descendants sold to Thomas Water's 2/3 of this land Book N 4 folio 363. Among the heirs were Ignatius O'Bryan & Rhoday his wife, Basil O"Bryan & Eleanor his wife. I've more, but to conclude, I think the William Bryan we are discussing lived in Trinity Parish all or most of his life and couldn't be the William Bryant who married Elizabeth Douglas. Linda ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18450) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

I think William Bryant, James and Peter are John Broyne's sons. -----Original Message----- Bryant William DL 87 1 Douglass William DL 99 1 Bryan Wm. TU 43 1 "Planter" [or his surname?] Bryan James TU 55 1 Bryan Peter TU 150 1 ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18450) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

There were 4 William Bryan(t)'s on the 1758 tax list in Charles Co., MD http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/md/charles/taxlists/ch1758txi.txt INDEX for the "1758 Charles County Tax Lists by District DL Durham Parish Lower Part NE East Newport Hundred PH Pomonkey Hundred PTW Port Tobacco West Side TU Trinity Parish Upper Hundred W&ML William & Mary Parish Lower Part Bryan John PH 26 1 Bryan Jun. John PH 26 2 Bryan Willm. PH 26 3 Bryan James PH 27 1 Bryan William NE 80 1 Bryant William DL 87 1 Douglass William DL 99 1 Bryan Wm. TU 43 1 "Planter" [or his surname?] Bryan James TU 55 1 Bryan Peter TU 150 1 Carico Peter TU 10 1 Carico James TU 38 1 Carico John TU 45 1 The William Bryant in Durham Parish near William Douglass is likely the William who married Elizabeth Douglas's daughter Elizabeth. The William Bryan in Trinity Parish near James & Peter Bryan (his brothers) is likely the William who died 1769. Nearby are the Carrico's. In 1733 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/md/charles/taxlists/ch1733tax.txt 1733 Charles County MD Tax List Bryan Daniel 7 86 PTWL Bryan John 2 30 NWU Carrico Abel 1 42 NWU Carricoe James 1 [sic] 26 BL Carricoe Peter 2 [sic] 43 NWU Peter Carrico lived at Maidstone, land that his first wife Ann Gates inherited from her father in 1698. Her mother Dorothy, then to her brother Joseph went 20 acres of Maidstone. Joseph, the youngest son of Robert & Dorothy Gates, inherited considerable acreage from his father. Between 1720 & 1739 he had his inheritance resurveyed as Gates Range with a total of 867 acres. In a combination of records, some copies from Georgetown Univ. and also History of The Society of Jesus in North America Colonial and Federal (my transcription here http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~boorom/carrico/mdgatesland.html) Joseph was under obligation to the Jesuits and Mortgaged (???) Gates Range to them in 1740. The in 1758 Deed Book G 3 folio 360 he deeded all of his rights to (Rev.) Bennet Neal. >From one of the documents from Georgetown Univ. is the following: 1750 Plat of Hunts Adventure. "Mr. Hunter, I have droanout part of a tract of land called Hunts venture where on I am informed won Thoumas Smout lives on and I have delivered to ????? you know how to find out the other part by the help of a ??????? and or otheres which I shall ???rm you wich is William Hagan Peter Carrico Robert Gates James Gates William Brion which I have shoud most of the bounds to. In the center of the drawing "thence toa bounded beech that I proved for my Brother in law Peter Carrico belonging all to Maidstone and from thence to an old Cows(?) post. In 1779 Rev. Bennet Neal sold to Thomas Withenton (Wethington) 79 acres of Gates Range. book V 3 folio 389. In 1794 Thomas Wethington's son finalized a resurvey of the 79 acres into Withintons Chance with a anew total of 139 acres. In 1795 Thomas Wethington's descendants sold to Thomas Water's 2/3 of this land Book N 4 folio 363. Among the heirs were Ignatius O'Bryan & Rhoday his wife, Basil O"Bryan & Eleanor his wife. I've more, but to conclude, I think the William Bryan we are discussing lived in Trinity Parish all or most of his life and couldn't be the William Bryant who married Elizabeth Douglas. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamey McLoughlin" <jameymclo@comcast.net> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] O'Bryan in Maryland I forgot to add this last night. This is the will for Thomas Douglass, father of Elizabeth Douglass Bryan. Thomas Douglass, Charles County, Maryland., 2 Sept. 1755, 11 Feb. 1756. To wife Elizabeth Douglass, her choice of 1/2 of tract in Charles County, Wherein now lives, to son William Douglass remainder of same tract. To dau. Ann, wife of Patrick Conner, 1 sh. sterl, to dau. Elizabeth, wife of William Bryan, 1 sh, sterl, to dau.; Mary, wife of John Halley, negro girl Jenny.Wit: John Hamitt, Hugh Hamitt, John Hamitt, Junr. [Hamill] Charles County Maryland Land Record Liber Z#2, 1744-1753; Page 241. At the request of Jacob Douglass, the following deed of gift was recorded on Apr 15, 1748. I, Thomas Douglass of CC, planter, for divers causes and for the natural love that I have for my son, Jacob Douglass, I have given Jacob my Negro man called Nacey, now in the hands of my son-in-law William Bryan of CC. signed Apr 15, 1748 - Thomas (D his mark) Douglass. Wit - S Hanson, Thos Morris. Will for Elizabeth Douglass, mother of Elizabeth Douglass Bryan. DOUGLASS, ELIZABETH, Charles Co,,, widow, 9 Feb 1758 To dau. Anne Conner,clothing, 29 Aug 1758 To dau. Elizabeth Bryan, clothing. To dau. Mary Hattey, clothing. To grand dau, Elizabeth Young Husband Hattey, furniture, horse and chest that my father gave me. To Jeremiah Coffer[?], gelding at age of 21, To grandson John Baptist Bryan (I think this is the same John Bryan who married Mary ? and had William and Charles), ewe and lamb To granddau. Hanner Conner, ewe and lamb, ex. To son William Douglass, remainder of estate and appoint him Wit: Francis Garner, Dorothy Simmons (Sims) Someone sent me this. This is William Bryan and Elizabeth Douglass's children. BRYAN, WILLIAM, Charles Co. 6 Sep 1768 4 Jan 1769 That tract, known as "Bristol" be sold and money applied to the use of paying debts and remaining part to be divided amongst my six children, John, Basil, Ignatius, Monica, Jane and Eleanor, Ex: John Bryan, Wit: James Waters, Junr., Joseph Waters, John Waters, 36, 686 -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of K Mills Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 10:17 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] O'Bryan in Maryland ListDon't know if Pete is reading the current list threads, but I'd be interested to know if he has any land/deed data of the locations of the various tracts sold or inherited by Bryone/Brian/Brien/OBryans in early Charles and St. Mary's Counties? I'd love to sort some of this out if it would yield more clues to the MD-->KY families. Dang those spellings! < , |/< ' /| Kat Mills

note "kinsman Philip Key, of Charles Co" === Stokes, John, Baltimore Co., 2nd March, 1727 ; 5th Sept., 1732. To son George and hrs., pt. of "Montserada," bou. of Edward Parrish, who had bou. it of Henry Ward, Cecil Co.; 200 A. "Ebenezar's Lott," Deare Ck.; also "Harman's Towne," or commonly called "The Ferry," excepting 100 A. bou. of Wm. Simpson; and personalty. To son John and hrs., 100 A. afsd.; 400 A. "Bourne," tract bou. of Joseph Johnson; 220 A. "Johnson's Delay," 100 A. "Simpson's Hazard"; and personalty. To son Humphry and hrs., land in Maryland or elsewhere not otherwise bequeathed; also house and lot at Joppa, on Gunpowder R.; and personalty. To dau. Frances, now wife of Aquilla Paca, 10s., she having received a portion at marriage. To 3 sons afsd., personal estate after their mother's portion is deducted. To kinsman Philip Key, of Charles Co., and Thomas White, overseers, £5 each. Exs.: Wife  and 3 sons afsd. Test: Erick Erickson, John Erickson, Zacharias Spencer, Casparum Erickson. 20, 444. === Baltimore County Circuit Court Land Surveys and Condominium Plats Addition to Westwood, 100 Acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: Strawbridge, John  1695  Patent Record C 3, p. 547  0  0  MSA S 1582-539  Addition to Westwood, 100 Acres; Patent Developer/Owner: Strawbridge, John  1695  Patent Record C 3, p. 548  0  0  MSA S 1582-540  Westwood, 200 Acres; Certificate Developer/Owner: Scudamore, Thomas and Tobias Stansbury  1744  Patent Record 22, p. 287  0  0  MSA S 1582-10888  Westwood, 200 Acres; Patent Developer/Owner: Scudamore, Thomas and Tobias Stansbury  1744  Patent Record IB and IL C, p. 329  0  0  MSA S 1582-10889  Westwood, 200 Acres; Patent Developer/Owner: Scudamore, Thomas and Tobias Stansbury  1744  Patent Record PT 2, p. 56  0  0  MSA S 1582-10890 === Same John Stokes Jr? Smith, Simon (nunc.), Charles County,           ==== ; 30th June, 1730. To son Simon and dau. Sarah, entire estate equally; son John and son-in-law Richard Wilson (who married dau, [unnamed]) to have no part therein, having received their full shares. Test: John Stokes (Aged about 23). 20.40, mm/ KSA >________________________________ > From: Daniel B. Troublefield <dantrouble@comporium.net> >To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 8:57 AM >Subject: [MDSTMARY] two other testators named John Edwards > >Hi Randy, > >I was browsing recorded wills for Edwards in St. Mary's County on >FamilySearch >and came across a couple of more testators named John Edwards: > >(1) Who was this John Edwards (of John) who died in 1782? >(If the answer is in the list archives, I didn't find it.) This is a >different man from John who died in 1784. I looked at that 1784 John's will, >also. > >John Edwards (of John), last will, dated 16 Oct 1782, proved 20 Nov 1782 >Wife Margaret (executrix) and two sons John and Henry (younger of two sons) >Dwelling plantation to wife for life or widowhood, then to son John who is >to pay £200 to son Henry >https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24308-31280-70?cc=1803986&wc=M9MV-NDK:n1055579305 >Maryland, Register of Wills Books, 1629-1983, St. Mary's,Wills 1777-1820 vol >1-3 >Image 115 of 743 images (F.H.L. Film #W.K. 28011) >Liber JJ No. 1, pages 208-209 >----------------- > >(2) Nor do I have any idea who this earlier John Edwards in 1710 was: > >John Edwards, will dated 1 Jan 1710/11, St. Mary's, Liber P.C. No. 1, Page >175 >No mention of wife or children or any other family members. >Exrs: Rev. Thos. Lockeshirt(?) & Rev. Richd Scot Clark >Land called "Westwood" in Baltimore to my godson John Stoakes >Wit: Charles Hodgkin, Charles Neale (mark), Mary Connery (mark) > >Regards, Dan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "C Greenwell" <cgreenwell01@gmail.com> >To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:09 AM >Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards > > >> Hi Don, >> >> I think I have been down this road before and have the 2 John Edwards >> mixed up.  In any case here is the will of John Edwards (d. 1784) >> whose daughter, Elizabeth Turner, married Thomas Edwards. >> >> Will of John Edwards JJ#1 f279 3/1784; prob. 7/29/1784 >> Son, Stourten Edwards "Tainton Dean" >> Son, John the land devised to my wife after her death. >> 3 daus.: Elizabeth Turner Edwards, Mary Magdalene Dent, Susanna Edwards. >> Son-in-law Thomas Edwards 1/3 my mill until my son, John reaches age 21. >> Wife, Sarah Edwards "Wednesday's Project", "Higgs His Purchase" & >> "Edwards Backland with Addition" >> Granddau.: Sarah Dent >> Grandson: Elkanah Edwards >> Exec is wife, Sarah Edwards >> witn: Benjamin Edwards, Benjamin Suit, George Dent >> >> Randy >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 AM, C Greenwell <cgreenwell01@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> I have her as the daughter of John Edwards and Sarah Reeves. >>> >>> Final Account of John Edwards, CC Accounts 1791-1798, p. 334; 31 Oct 1796 >>> Admin: Sarah Edwards >>> To: Due to Ann Sothoron tobacco due form note dated 22 Aug 1789 >>> To: Due to Samuel Morton >>> To: Due to Dr. Basil Warring >>> To: Due to Briscoe and Hammerly >>> To: Due to William Cartwright >>> To: Due to Jerimiah Jordon >>> To: Due to John Forbes >>> To: Due to Dyson and Cooksley >>> To: Due to Sheriff >>> To; Due to John Muschett >>> To: Widow 1/3 >>> To: 7 children, Susanna, Elizabeth Turner, Eleanor Wilson, Mary, Anna, >>> Jean, Charles; the first 2 of age and the rest under aged. >>> (Source: My Transscription) >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Donald Drury <ddrury5840@sbcglobal.net> >>> wrote: >>>> Thanks Linda. >>>> >>>> Now does anyone else have any information about the parents of Elizabeth >>>> T. >>>> Edwards who died 11/7/1850 in Mercer County Kentucky? >>>> >>>> Thanks to all, >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> >>>> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Wed, January 2, 2013 9:57:23 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards >>>> >>>> Don, >>>> >>>> The answer is no.  Elizabeth Turner Edwards died prior to 1804 as Thomas >>>> Edwards married Jemima Dickens 10 Feb 1804.  Thomas Edwards died about >>>> 1812. >>>> >>>> >From Judith Burger, 8/24/2004: >>>> >>>> WASHINGTON COUNTY, KY WILLS 1792-1853, Faye Sea Sanders, 1987, >>>> Louisville, >>>> Kentucky, p. 19.  Edwards, Thomas - Div/estate 22 Dec 1812 11 Jan 1813 >>>> Bk >>>> B:210.  Heirs: Jemima Edwards, widow.  Josiah, Elkany, Stanton (sic), >>>> John, >>>> Nancy, Joseph, Henry, Hezekiah, Rhody, William and Charles Edwards.  By: >>>> Edward Rutter:, Phil Washburn, James Scanland. >>>> >>>> Linda Reno >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Donald Drury >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:01 AM >>>> To: mdstmary-l@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards >>>> >>>> Hi Linda and list, >>>> >>>> Hope your holiday season was happy and enjoyable. >>>> >>>> About 18 months ago you posted the following: >>>> >>>> ************************* >>>> I am looking at this John Edwards, son of Joseph Edwards amd Mary: >>>>> > >>>>> > Will of John Edwards JJ#1 f279 3/1784; prob. 7/29/1784 >>>>> > Son, Stourten Edwards "Tainton Dean" >>>>> > Son, John the land devised to my wife after her death. >>>>> > 3 daus.: Elizabeth Turner Edwards, Mary Magdalene Dent, Susnna >>>>> > Edwards. >>>>> > Son-in-law Thomas Edwards 1/3 my mill until my son, John reaches age >>>>> > 21. >>>>> > Wife, Sarah Edwards "Wednesday's Project", "Higgins Purchase" & >>>>> > "Edwards Backland with Addition" >>>>> > Granddau.: Sarah Dent >>>>> > Grandson: Elkanah Edwards >>>>> > Exec is wife, Sarah Edwards >>>>> > Witn: Benjamin Edwards, Benjamin Suit, George Dent >>>>> > >>>>> > Now some say that he first married Elizabeth Carter then Sarah >>>>> > Reeves. >>>>> > >>>>> > Elizabeth Turner Edwards, dau. of John Edwards Sr (d.1784). & Sarah >>>>> > Reeves. Elizabeth Turner Edwards 1st husband, Thomas Edwards died >>>>> > 1806 >>>>> > in Wash. Co., Ky. >>>>> > Thomas Edwards m. first, Elizabeth Turner Edwards (and I have her >>>>> > mother as Elizabeth Carter--the first wife) and second, Elizabeth >>>>> > Chappelear, dau. of James Chappelear and Elizabeth Dent. >>>>> > The will of Nathan Chappelear (unmarried brother of Elizabeth) dated >>>>> > 10/25/1807 devised part of his estate to his sister, Elizabeth >>>>> > Edwards, wife of Thomas Edwards. >>>>> > Linda Reno >>>> ******************************** >>>> My question is could the Elizabeth Turner Edwards referenced in your >>>> post be >>>> the >>>> same one who married (apparently second) William Drury (abt >>>> 1777-2/26/1851) >>>> in >>>> 1819? I have tentatively placed him as William s/o John Drury (d. 1797)? >>>> They >>>> all seem to have been in Kentucky by this time. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any clarification you can provide. >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello List, Apparently the John Edwards of the 1710/11 will was Reverend John Edwards of Baltimore. http://www.genforum.familytreemaker.com/edwards/messages/18011.html Robert Stourton was one of the appraisers of the estate in 1711. My thanks to Rebecca Haninger for her posting. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel B. Troublefield" <dantrouble@comporium.net> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 12:57 AM Subject: [MDSTMARY] two other testators named John Edwards I was browsing recorded wills for Edwards in St. Mary's County on FamilySearch and came across a couple of more testators named John Edwards: (2) Nor do I have any idea who this earlier John Edwards in 1710 was: John Edwards, will dated 1 Jan 1710/11, St. Mary's, Liber P.C. No. 1, Page 175 No mention of wife or children or any other family members. Exrs: Rev. Thos. Lockeshirt(?) & Rev. Richd Scot Clark Land called "Westwood" in Baltimore to my godson John Stoakes Wit: Charles Hodgkin, Charles Neale (mark), Mary Connery (mark) Regards, Dan

My ancestor is Richard Langhorn Clark. All I know about is wife is that her name was Chloe, no maiden name. Has anyone else who might have come across Richard found out his wife's maiden name? Richard's parents were John Clark and Eleanor Gough. Richard was barn around 1753 in Maryland. The family ends up in Kentucky. Any ideas or suggestions on how to find out her maiden name? Thank you. Cathy

I forgot to add this last night. This is the will for Thomas Douglass, father of Elizabeth Douglass Bryan. Thomas Douglass, Charles County, Maryland., 2 Sept. 1755, 11 Feb. 1756. To wife Elizabeth Douglass, her choice of 1/2 of tract in Charles County, Wherein now lives, to son William Douglass remainder of same tract. To dau. Ann, wife of Patrick Conner, 1 sh. sterl, to dau. Elizabeth, wife of William Bryan, 1 sh, sterl, to dau.; Mary, wife of John Halley, negro girl Jenny.Wit: John Hamitt, Hugh Hamitt, John Hamitt, Junr. [Hamill] Charles County Maryland Land Record Liber Z#2, 1744-1753; Page 241. At the request of Jacob Douglass, the following deed of gift was recorded on Apr 15, 1748. I, Thomas Douglass of CC, planter, for divers causes and for the natural love that I have for my son, Jacob Douglass, I have given Jacob my Negro man called Nacey, now in the hands of my son-in-law William Bryan of CC. signed Apr 15, 1748 - Thomas (D his mark) Douglass. Wit - S Hanson, Thos Morris. Will for Elizabeth Douglass, mother of Elizabeth Douglass Bryan. DOUGLASS, ELIZABETH, Charles Co,,, widow, 9 Feb 1758 To dau. Anne Conner,clothing, 29 Aug 1758 To dau. Elizabeth Bryan, clothing. To dau. Mary Hattey, clothing. To grand dau, Elizabeth Young Husband Hattey, furniture, horse and chest that my father gave me. To Jeremiah Coffer[?], gelding at age of 21, To grandson John Baptist Bryan (I think this is the same John Bryan who married Mary ? and had William and Charles), ewe and lamb To granddau. Hanner Conner, ewe and lamb, ex. To son William Douglass, remainder of estate and appoint him Wit: Francis Garner, Dorothy Simmons (Sims) Someone sent me this. This is William Bryan and Elizabeth Douglass’s children. BRYAN, WILLIAM, Charles Co. 6 Sep 1768 4 Jan 1769 That tract, known as "Bristol" be sold and money applied to the use of paying debts and remaining part to be divided amongst my six children, John, Basil, Ignatius, Monica, Jane and Eleanor, Ex: John Bryan, Wit: James Waters, Junr., Joseph Waters, John Waters, 36, 686 -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of K Mills Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 10:17 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] O'Bryan in Maryland ListDon't know if Pete is reading the current list threads, but I'd be interested to know if he has any land/deed data of the locations of the various tracts sold or inherited by Bryone/Brian/Brien/OBryans in early Charles and St. Mary's Counties? I'd love to sort some of this out if it would yield more clues to the MD-->KY families. Dang those spellings! < , |/< ' /|   Kat Mills ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18450) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

No, John. I haven't found the maiden name of Elizabeth. Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Dobricky Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:56 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest As always, Linda, your information is wonderful. I also think it is great to have this information on the website because a LOT of researchers have the list of marriages for Elizabeth Guibert that I mentioned earlier--the marriages that were actually for Elizabeth _________. And, I agree, the dates for the earlier marriages were too early for Elizabeth Guibert. Do you have any idea who the other Elizabeth was? On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > Sorry John, but we disagree. > > 1. Elizabeth Guibert, b. before 1679, was married twice--first to Thomas > Turner, Jr. and second to John Baptist Carberry, Jr. (son of John Baptist > Carberry, Sr. and first wife, Ann Thompson). She was still Elizabeth > Carberry as late as 1733. > > Will of Thomas Turner, SMC 10/31/1696-2/15/1696. Son: Thomas, personal > estate and 400 ac., pt. of "St. Thomas'". Son: Joshua, personal estate; 190 > ac. "Audley End"; and 150 ac. residue of "St. Thomas'". Daughter: Monica, > personal estate and 200 ac. "St. Dorothy's" on the w. side of St. Clement's > Bay. To: Thomas Bencroft, Robert Thompson, and William Michell, personal > estate. Wife: Elizabeth (Exec.) residuary legatee of estate, real and > personal. Wit: Clement Hill, Sr., William Smith, Elizabeth Dash. (Maryland > Calendar of Wills). > > Will of Joshua Guibert, St. Mary's Co., 2/26/1713-5/16/1713. Son: Thomas and > heirs, dwelling plantation on St. Clement's Bay and lands adjoining thereto. > Son: Matthew and heirs, "Guibert's Chance" and the addition to same near St. > Clement's Bay. Son: Joshua and heirs, about 160 ac. "Tower Hill" in Charles > County, also dwelling plantation afsd. should son Thomas die without issue. > Daughter: Mary, personalty. Daughter: Eliza.: Carberry, personalty in > addition to that given her when she married Thomas Turner. Daughter: Ann > Blackston, personalty in addition to that given her when she married John > Blackston. Wife: Elizabeth, life interest in dwelling plantation and lands > devised Thomas afsd. Sons Thomas and Joshua afsd., exs., and residuary > legatees. Wit.: William Walker, Frances Marritt, John Marritt. (Maryland > Calendar of Wills). > > Elizabeth Carberry, living near St. Clement's Bay in SMC, reports a runaway > mulatto slave called Matthew, sometimes called Matthew Masters or Matthew > Fletcher, aged about 27 years. He can pass for a white man. (The Maryland > Gazette, 3/16/1733). > > 2. Elizabeth, b. 1647 (maiden name unknown) was married four times. First, > was Col. William Evans; second was John Jordan; third was Cuthbert Scott; > and fourth was John Baptist Carberry, Sr. (widower of Ann Thompson and > father of JBC, Jr.). > > 6/4/1679: William Evans d. 3/1669 seized of a parcel of land on the e. side > of St. Clement's Bay which he devised by his will to his wife, Elizabeth. > She married Capt. John Jordan who died about 9/8/1678. She married Cuthbert > Scott 10/28/1678. (Extracts from Chancery Court Records of Maryland, > 1669-1679, MD Gen. Soc. Bulletin, Fall 1994). > > Chancery Court Proceedings, 1679: And the Jurors do further upon their > Oaths Say That the said Coll.° William Evans dyed So Seized and possessed of > the Said Severall Tracts & parcells of Land haveing before his death made > his last Will & Testam.t in writeing and therein devised the Said Lands by > will bearing date the tenth day of ffebruary Annoq Domini 1667 as is here > Expressed viz.t I Give and bequeath unto my Dear & Loveing wife Elizabeth > Evans all my Lands Goods and Chattels and what (fol. 285) soever else that > doth belong & appertain unto my Estate or of Right ought to belong or > appertain thereto And the Jurors do Say that the Said William Evans deceased > in march Anno Domini 1669 And the Jurors afores.d do upon their oaths > further Say that Elizabeth Evans Entered into the Land & held the Same > dureing her widowhood and after to witt in the month of may Anno Domini 1669 > She Inter married w.th Capt Jn.° Jordain and they the Said John & Elizabeth > in Right of Elizabeth his wife held the Same untill the Death of the Liber C > D Said John Jourdain w.th was about the Eigth of September Anno Domini 1678 > And the Jurors do further Say that from the time the Said Elizabeth Entered > into the premisses & held the Same dureing her widowhood & after to witt the > Twenty Eigth day of October Anno 1678 She Intermarried with m.r Cuthbert > Scott w.ch Said Cuthbert and Elizabeth held and Enjoyed the Same in Right of > Elizabeth and being So in possession thereof and being informed and advised > that the last will & Testam.t of the Said Coll.° William Evans in Some part > thereof is defective and that for want of the words to her and her heir for > Ever proves only an Estate for life the words heirs & assigns for Ever being > not Inserted in the Said Will as they Should have been to have made an > Estate of Inheritance to his wife w.ch the Said Juro.rs do verily believe > was his Intention they the Said Cuthbert Scott & Elizabeth his wife by their > Deed bearing date the Eighteenth day of Aprill Annoq Domini 1679 for and in > p. 233 Consideration of the Summ of thirty thousand pounds of Tobacco (fol. > 285) in hand paid to them the Said Cuthbert & Elizabeth by the Right Hon.ble > Charles Lord Baltemore did fully Clearly and absolutely Give Grant alien > Bargain Sell & Confirm unto the Said Lord Baltemore his heirs and assigns > for Ever all those pieces and parcells of Land herein these presents before > Expressed and that by virtue thereof his Lordship became Seized of the Sd > Lands and premisses dureing the life of the Said Elizabeth Scott by Virtue > of the Said Deed from the Said Scott and his wife And the Jurors afores.d do > further Say that the Lands & Tenem.ts are of value by the year in all issues > the Sum of Sixteen hundred pounds of Tobacco & that they find no heir and > that Cap.t John Jourdein & m.r Cuthbert Scott hath for the most part > Occupied the Sd Lands & Tenem.ts from the time of the Death of the Said > William Evans and the issue & profits thereof hath received and his > Lordship's Rent for the Same hath paid And that the Said Cuthbert Scott and > Elizabeth his wife doth now Enjoy the Same as Tennants to my (fol. 286) Lord > Baltemore afs.d In Testimony whereof as well the Said Corn mission.rs as the > Juro.rs aforesaid have hereunto Set their hands and affixed their Seals the > day and year first above Written Clement Hill sealed rs d ommisson.rs > (Archives of Maryland). > > 9/19/1692, Elizabeth, wife of John Baptist Carberry, relict and admix. of > Cuthbert Scott, dec'd is now herself lately deceased intestate (Test. Pro. > 14A:4). > > Linda Reno > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Dobricky > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:45 AM > To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest > > Hi. One correction.....Elizabeth Guibert (daughter of Joshua Guibert > I and Elizabeth Barber) had more than two husbands. Depending on who > you talk to, her first husband was William Evans (although I think she > was too young to have married him), her second husband was John > Jourdain/Jordan, her third husband was Thomas Turner II, her fourth > husband was Cuthbert Scott (that is how, John Baptist Carberry ended > up with the 2,100 acres of "Hopton Park"), and her fifth husband was > John Baptist Carberry. Of course, feedback, thoughts, and suggestions > are always welcome. John Dobricky > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:46 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: MarilynRoth58 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.s > tmarys/4587.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Perhaps the persons who posted information on Ancestry.com can help. > Several files have John Baptist CARBERRY, who was born in the 1660's & d. > bef. 19 Nov. 1728, St. Mary's Co., MD, m. 1697 , St. Mary's Co., MD, > Elizabeth GUIBERT, b. ca. 1670. He owned "Carberry's Discovery" by 1715. >> >> The information is somewhat verified by Elise Greenup Jourdan's Early > Families of Southern Maryland. "St. Thomas," 550 acres, was surveyed for > Emma TURNER in St. Clement's Hundred, 9 July 1663; also "St. Thomas," 550 > acres in New Town Hundred, surveyed for Emma TURNER on east side of St. > Thomas Run that falls into the main run of Choptico Bay. "Little St. > Thomas," 200 acres, Choptico Hundred, surveyed 23 July 1664 for Emma TURNER > near the main branch of Choptico; same patented 10 Oct. 1668 for Wm. > ROSWELL. The above tracts were held in 1707 for TURNER orphans by John > Baptist CARBERRY. >> >> Relationships are difficult to state because of the use of terms such as > sister or brother to mean in-laws, but this seems to be the case: >> >> Emma (maiden name unknown) m1. Thomas TURNER [Sr.] & m2. Wm. ROSWELL. > Thomas TURNER [Jr.] married as first husband of Elizabeth GUIBERT, dau/o > Joshua & Elizabeth. Elizabeth, formerly wf/o Thomas TURNER, m2. 1697 John > Baptist CARBERRY. >> >> Maryland Calendar of Wills does not have a will for John B. Carberry in > 1728. However, there was an inventory of his estate 19 Nov. 1728 & 6 Je. > 1729, Mr. John Baptis CARBERY, 14.182. Next of kin Nicholas MILLS & Eleanor > CARBERY, administrators Mrs. Elisabeth CARBERY & John Baptis CARBERY. >> >> Somewhere along the line of owners of the property, there might have been > an abstract showing all of the prior owners. >> >> --not my family >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Randy, You had posted this information in November and at that time wondered if Sarah, widow of John Edwards, was a Turner as the names seemed to fall in line with the family of Edward Turner. I think you're right. Edward Turner and his wife Eleanor Wilson had 14 children, one of whom was Sarah "Sally" who was single until at least 1781. Since the first two children of John Edwards were of age in 1796, I have them born prior to 1778 (assuming the girls were at least 18). This would mean that John Edwards was married twice and that the first two children, at least, were by the first wife. Further, I'd bet the first wife was Elizabeth "Betsy" Turner, sister of Sarah. "Betsy" was born November 7, 1758. Will of Edward Turner, SMC, planter, 1/14/1772-5/1/1773. Son: Samuel, "Watson's Choice", 249 ac.; "Hingston", 50 ac., "Partner's Purchase" in Charles Co., 50 ac. Son: William, "Turner's Forest", Charles Co., 116 ac.; one negro; and a child's part of moveable estate. Son: Randolph, "Saint Vincent" in Charles Co., 50 ac. Wife: Dwelling plantation during her lifetime and then to son, Charles Turner; negro man named Guy; negro women Lucy and Valentine; and a child's part of moveable estate. Son: Joshua, negro boy James and a child's pt. of moveable estate. Son: Charles, Exec., mulatto Hannah and a horse. To: My six sons and six daughters, moveable estate. Wit: James Eden, George Goldie, Charles Reeves, Thomas Goldsmith. CODICIL: Son, Randolph, my mulatto child, William Shaw. Daughter: Betsy, a bed. Daughter: Sally, a bed. To: Nelly, a bed. Wife: As negro woman Valentine I gave her is dead, I give her my negro girl Jean. Son: Charles, to allow all my daughters to live with him as long as single and my sister Myshall as long as she lives. Son: Joseph, negro girl Rebecca. Wit: George Goldie, John Goldsmith. (Maryland Calendar of Wills). Will of Eleanor Turner, SMC, 8/20/1781-9/16/1781. Daughter: Sarah negroes named Peter and Lucy. Daughter: Eleanor, a negro named Guy; a negro girl named Lucy and her son, Jerry; and a horse which came of the mare named Punkin. Daughters: Sarah and Eleanor, the remainder of my estate equally divided. Exec.: None specified. Witnesses: George Goldie, Justinian Jordan. (St. Mary's County, Maryland Wills, 1776-1791 by Linda Reno and Joann Humphries). Now to prove it! Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of C Greenwell Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:26 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards I have her as the daughter of John Edwards and Sarah Reeves. Final Account of John Edwards, CC Accounts 1791-1798, p. 334; 31 Oct 1796 Admin: Sarah Edwards To: Due to Ann Sothoron tobacco due form note dated 22 Aug 1789 To: Due to Samuel Morton To: Due to Dr. Basil Warring To: Due to Briscoe and Hammerly To: Due to William Cartwright To: Due to Jerimiah Jordon To: Due to John Forbes To: Due to Dyson and Cooksley To: Due to Sheriff To; Due to John Muschett To: Widow 1/3 To: 7 children, Susanna, Elizabeth Turner, Eleanor Wilson, Mary, Anna, Jean, Charles; the first 2 of age and the rest under aged. (Source: My Transscription) Randy On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Donald Drury <ddrury5840@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Thanks Linda. > > Now does anyone else have any information about the parents of Elizabeth T. > Edwards who died 11/7/1850 in Mercer County Kentucky? > > Thanks to all, > > Don > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, January 2, 2013 9:57:23 AM > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards > > Don, > > The answer is no. Elizabeth Turner Edwards died prior to 1804 as Thomas > Edwards married Jemima Dickens 10 Feb 1804. Thomas Edwards died about 1812. > > >From Judith Burger, 8/24/2004: > > WASHINGTON COUNTY, KY WILLS 1792-1853, Faye Sea Sanders, 1987, Louisville, > Kentucky, p. 19. Edwards, Thomas - Div/estate 22 Dec 1812 11 Jan 1813 Bk > B:210. Heirs: Jemima Edwards, widow. Josiah, Elkany, Stanton (sic), John, > Nancy, Joseph, Henry, Hezekiah, Rhody, William and Charles Edwards. By: > Edward Rutter:, Phil Washburn, James Scanland. > > Linda Reno > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Donald Drury > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:01 AM > To: mdstmary-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards > > Hi Linda and list, > > Hope your holiday season was happy and enjoyable. > > About 18 months ago you posted the following: > > ************************* > I am looking at this John Edwards, son of Joseph Edwards amd Mary: >> > >> > Will of John Edwards JJ#1 f279 3/1784; prob. 7/29/1784 >> > Son, Stourten Edwards "Tainton Dean" >> > Son, John the land devised to my wife after her death. >> > 3 daus.: Elizabeth Turner Edwards, Mary Magdalene Dent, Susnna Edwards. >> > Son-in-law Thomas Edwards 1/3 my mill until my son, John reaches age 21. >> > Wife, Sarah Edwards "Wednesday's Project", "Higgins Purchase" & >> > "Edwards Backland with Addition" >> > Granddau.: Sarah Dent >> > Grandson: Elkanah Edwards >> > Exec is wife, Sarah Edwards >> > Witn: Benjamin Edwards, Benjamin Suit, George Dent >> > >> > Now some say that he first married Elizabeth Carter then Sarah Reeves. >> > >> > Elizabeth Turner Edwards, dau. of John Edwards Sr (d.1784). & Sarah >> > Reeves. Elizabeth Turner Edwards 1st husband, Thomas Edwards died 1806 >> > in Wash. Co., Ky. >> > Thomas Edwards m. first, Elizabeth Turner Edwards (and I have her >> > mother as Elizabeth Carter--the first wife) and second, Elizabeth >> > Chappelear, dau. of James Chappelear and Elizabeth Dent. >> > The will of Nathan Chappelear (unmarried brother of Elizabeth) dated >> > 10/25/1807 devised part of his estate to his sister, Elizabeth >> > Edwards, wife of Thomas Edwards. >> > Linda Reno > ******************************** > My question is could the Elizabeth Turner Edwards referenced in your post be > the > same one who married (apparently second) William Drury (abt 1777-2/26/1851) > in > 1819? I have tentatively placed him as William s/o John Drury (d. 1797)? > They > all seem to have been in Kentucky by this time. > > Thanks for any clarification you can provide. > > Don > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ListDon't know if Pete is reading the current list threads, but I'd be interested to know if he has any land/deed data of the locations of the various tracts sold or inherited by Bryone/Brian/Brien/OBryans in early Charles and St. Mary's Counties? I'd love to sort some of this out if it would yield more clues to the MD-->KY families. Dang those spellings! < , |/ < ' /|   Kat Mills   --- On Fri, 1/4/13, Jamey McLoughlin <jameymclo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Jamey McLoughlin <jameymclo@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] O'Bryan in Maryland To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 8:00 PM Hi Linda, I am a 3rd great grandson to  William O'Bryan and Elizabeth Kincheloe of Ky. My understanding is that: 1. John Bryone married Catherine ? 2. William Bryan married Elizabeth Douglass 3. John O'Bryan (D.1783)  married Mary ? 4.  Charles  O'Brian (D.1852) married  Susanna French (Charles and William both  went to Hardin County, KY and many generations are buried at St. Clare cemetery.) 5. John Brian married 1st Mary Huff, 2nd Susanna French's niece, Ann Mariah French 6. John Hilary O'Brian married Emma O'Rourke (This is my 2d great grandparents) 1. John Bryone married Catherine ? 2. Peter Brian married Jane Gardiner 3. William O'Bryan married 1st ?, 2nd ElIzabeth  Kincheloe     (This is my 3rd great  grandparents) This William had a  brother, Lewis O'Bryan. Jamey McLoughlin -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:22 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] O'Bryan in Maryland I'm interested in the O'Bryan's of Charles Co. & how they (or how many) connections to the Carrico's of Charles Co. BROYNE [BRYAN], JOHN, Charles Co. 11 Oct 1757; 15 March 1758 To son William Broyn, 1 sh. To son James, 1 sh. To son Peter Broyn, 1 sh. To dau Jane Yates, 1 sh. Wife Catharine, extx. to whom I give the remainder of my estate. Wit: Ignatius Bagott, John Carries. 30. 451 Carries is actually Carrico Charles County Maryland Will Book B-1, 1782-1785; Page 273, John Obryan's Will. I, John Obryan of CC, am sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory. To my wife Mary Obryan - all my real and personal estate, during her widowhood or single life, and no longer. To my sons William Obryan and Charles Obryan - all my real and personal estate, to be equally divided between them after the death or marriage of their mother. Executrix: my wife Mary Obryan, executor: Basil Obryan. Signed Dec 29, 1783 - John Obryan. Wit - James Carrico son of John, Timothy (X his mark) Farrand. Probated on Feb 10, 1784 by the oath of the executrix and by the oath of the executor and by the oaths of both witnesses. Mary OBryan quitted her claim to the afd will, and elected thereof her dower or third part of sd estate, both real and personal. Before John Muschett, Reg. of wills Charles Co. MD deed book IB 10 folio 297 dated 6/5/1813 Rev. William, Mary Ann & Basil O'Bryan sell Bristol/Piney Level/Grays Enlargement to Waters, Thomas Gibbons & Vincent King I think this has to be the widow of John & son William. You mention Charles is in Hardin Co., KY? Not sure where Basil fits in, John had a brother Basil....... Not sure that John's father William's wife was Elizabeth Douglas, there were 2 William O'Bryan's in Charles Co., in this time frame. Ignatius O'Bryan s/o William married Rhoda Ann Wethington d/o Thomas Wethington & numerous children married Carrico's in KY. Basil O'Bryan s/o William married Eleanor Wethington d/o Thomas. Doesn't appear they moved to KY with other Wethingtons ca 1795. What happened to descendants Another daughter of Thomas Wethington Mary Wethington married William Carrico who was deceased by 1795. What happened to descendants. St. Mary's in Bryantown shows many godparents of O'bryan & Carrico in the early years: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~boorom/carrico/mdchurch1793_1 861.html Linda Boorom a Carrico descendant ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18450) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, General question: Is the Welsh custom of naming sons after their fathers, the reason for all the St. Mary's records of names as "John Edwards (of John)", Joseph Edwards (of Ignatius), Joseph (of Benjamin), etc.? The Joseph Edwards' ancestry was Welsh, from what I've read. In Welsh, John (of John) would be more like "Ieuan ap Ieuan" or something like that, I think, where "ap" means "son of" in Cymric. Dan

Hi Randy, I was browsing recorded wills for Edwards in St. Mary's County on FamilySearch and came across a couple of more testators named John Edwards: (1) Who was this John Edwards (of John) who died in 1782? (If the answer is in the list archives, I didn't find it.) This is a different man from John who died in 1784. I looked at that 1784 John's will, also. John Edwards (of John), last will, dated 16 Oct 1782, proved 20 Nov 1782 Wife Margaret (executrix) and two sons John and Henry (younger of two sons) Dwelling plantation to wife for life or widowhood, then to son John who is to pay £200 to son Henry https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24308-31280-70?cc=1803986&wc=M9MV-NDK:n1055579305 Maryland, Register of Wills Books, 1629-1983, St. Mary's,Wills 1777-1820 vol 1-3 Image 115 of 743 images (F.H.L. Film #W.K. 28011) Liber JJ No. 1, pages 208-209 ----------------- (2) Nor do I have any idea who this earlier John Edwards in 1710 was: John Edwards, will dated 1 Jan 1710/11, St. Mary's, Liber P.C. No. 1, Page 175 No mention of wife or children or any other family members. Exrs: Rev. Thos. Lockeshirt(?) & Rev. Richd Scot Clark Land called "Westwood" in Baltimore to my godson John Stoakes Wit: Charles Hodgkin, Charles Neale (mark), Mary Connery (mark) Regards, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Greenwell" <cgreenwell01@gmail.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards > Hi Don, > > I think I have been down this road before and have the 2 John Edwards > mixed up. In any case here is the will of John Edwards (d. 1784) > whose daughter, Elizabeth Turner, married Thomas Edwards. > > Will of John Edwards JJ#1 f279 3/1784; prob. 7/29/1784 > Son, Stourten Edwards "Tainton Dean" > Son, John the land devised to my wife after her death. > 3 daus.: Elizabeth Turner Edwards, Mary Magdalene Dent, Susanna Edwards. > Son-in-law Thomas Edwards 1/3 my mill until my son, John reaches age 21. > Wife, Sarah Edwards "Wednesday's Project", "Higgs His Purchase" & > "Edwards Backland with Addition" > Granddau.: Sarah Dent > Grandson: Elkanah Edwards > Exec is wife, Sarah Edwards > witn: Benjamin Edwards, Benjamin Suit, George Dent > > Randy > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 AM, C Greenwell <cgreenwell01@gmail.com> > wrote: >> I have her as the daughter of John Edwards and Sarah Reeves. >> >> Final Account of John Edwards, CC Accounts 1791-1798, p. 334; 31 Oct 1796 >> Admin: Sarah Edwards >> To: Due to Ann Sothoron tobacco due form note dated 22 Aug 1789 >> To: Due to Samuel Morton >> To: Due to Dr. Basil Warring >> To: Due to Briscoe and Hammerly >> To: Due to William Cartwright >> To: Due to Jerimiah Jordon >> To: Due to John Forbes >> To: Due to Dyson and Cooksley >> To: Due to Sheriff >> To; Due to John Muschett >> To: Widow 1/3 >> To: 7 children, Susanna, Elizabeth Turner, Eleanor Wilson, Mary, Anna, >> Jean, Charles; the first 2 of age and the rest under aged. >> (Source: My Transscription) >> >> Randy >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Donald Drury <ddrury5840@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >>> Thanks Linda. >>> >>> Now does anyone else have any information about the parents of Elizabeth >>> T. >>> Edwards who died 11/7/1850 in Mercer County Kentucky? >>> >>> Thanks to all, >>> >>> Don >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Linda Reno <lindareno@comcast.net> >>> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Wed, January 2, 2013 9:57:23 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards >>> >>> Don, >>> >>> The answer is no. Elizabeth Turner Edwards died prior to 1804 as Thomas >>> Edwards married Jemima Dickens 10 Feb 1804. Thomas Edwards died about >>> 1812. >>> >>> >From Judith Burger, 8/24/2004: >>> >>> WASHINGTON COUNTY, KY WILLS 1792-1853, Faye Sea Sanders, 1987, >>> Louisville, >>> Kentucky, p. 19. Edwards, Thomas - Div/estate 22 Dec 1812 11 Jan 1813 >>> Bk >>> B:210. Heirs: Jemima Edwards, widow. Josiah, Elkany, Stanton (sic), >>> John, >>> Nancy, Joseph, Henry, Hezekiah, Rhody, William and Charles Edwards. By: >>> Edward Rutter:, Phil Washburn, James Scanland. >>> >>> Linda Reno >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of Donald Drury >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:01 AM >>> To: mdstmary-l@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Elizabeth T. Edwards >>> >>> Hi Linda and list, >>> >>> Hope your holiday season was happy and enjoyable. >>> >>> About 18 months ago you posted the following: >>> >>> ************************* >>> I am looking at this John Edwards, son of Joseph Edwards amd Mary: >>>> > >>>> > Will of John Edwards JJ#1 f279 3/1784; prob. 7/29/1784 >>>> > Son, Stourten Edwards "Tainton Dean" >>>> > Son, John the land devised to my wife after her death. >>>> > 3 daus.: Elizabeth Turner Edwards, Mary Magdalene Dent, Susnna >>>> > Edwards. >>>> > Son-in-law Thomas Edwards 1/3 my mill until my son, John reaches age >>>> > 21. >>>> > Wife, Sarah Edwards "Wednesday's Project", "Higgins Purchase" & >>>> > "Edwards Backland with Addition" >>>> > Granddau.: Sarah Dent >>>> > Grandson: Elkanah Edwards >>>> > Exec is wife, Sarah Edwards >>>> > Witn: Benjamin Edwards, Benjamin Suit, George Dent >>>> > >>>> > Now some say that he first married Elizabeth Carter then Sarah >>>> > Reeves. >>>> > >>>> > Elizabeth Turner Edwards, dau. of John Edwards Sr (d.1784). & Sarah >>>> > Reeves. Elizabeth Turner Edwards 1st husband, Thomas Edwards died >>>> > 1806 >>>> > in Wash. Co., Ky. >>>> > Thomas Edwards m. first, Elizabeth Turner Edwards (and I have her >>>> > mother as Elizabeth Carter--the first wife) and second, Elizabeth >>>> > Chappelear, dau. of James Chappelear and Elizabeth Dent. >>>> > The will of Nathan Chappelear (unmarried brother of Elizabeth) dated >>>> > 10/25/1807 devised part of his estate to his sister, Elizabeth >>>> > Edwards, wife of Thomas Edwards. >>>> > Linda Reno >>> ******************************** >>> My question is could the Elizabeth Turner Edwards referenced in your >>> post be >>> the >>> same one who married (apparently second) William Drury (abt >>> 1777-2/26/1851) >>> in >>> 1819? I have tentatively placed him as William s/o John Drury (d. 1797)? >>> They >>> all seem to have been in Kentucky by this time. >>> >>> Thanks for any clarification you can provide. >>> >>> Don >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Linda, I am a 3rd great grandson to William O'Bryan and Elizabeth Kincheloe of Ky. My understanding is that: 1. John Bryone married Catherine ? 2. William Bryan married Elizabeth Douglass 3. John O'Bryan (D.1783) married Mary ? 4. Charles O'Brian (D.1852) married Susanna French (Charles and William both went to Hardin County, KY and many generations are buried at St. Clare cemetery.) 5. John Brian married 1st Mary Huff, 2nd Susanna French's niece, Ann Mariah French 6. John Hilary O'Brian married Emma O'Rourke (This is my 2d great grandparents) 1. John Bryone married Catherine ? 2. Peter Brian married Jane Gardiner 3. William O'Bryan married 1st ?, 2nd ElIzabeth Kincheloe (This is my 3rd great grandparents) This William had a brother, Lewis O'Bryan. Jamey McLoughlin -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:22 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] O'Bryan in Maryland I'm interested in the O'Bryan's of Charles Co. & how they (or how many) connections to the Carrico's of Charles Co. BROYNE [BRYAN], JOHN, Charles Co. 11 Oct 1757; 15 March 1758 To son William Broyn, 1 sh. To son James, 1 sh. To son Peter Broyn, 1 sh. To dau Jane Yates, 1 sh. Wife Catharine, extx. to whom I give the remainder of my estate. Wit: Ignatius Bagott, John Carries. 30. 451 Carries is actually Carrico Charles County Maryland Will Book B-1, 1782-1785; Page 273, John Obryan's Will. I, John Obryan of CC, am sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory. To my wife Mary Obryan - all my real and personal estate, during her widowhood or single life, and no longer. To my sons William Obryan and Charles Obryan - all my real and personal estate, to be equally divided between them after the death or marriage of their mother. Executrix: my wife Mary Obryan, executor: Basil Obryan. Signed Dec 29, 1783 - John Obryan. Wit - James Carrico son of John, Timothy (X his mark) Farrand. Probated on Feb 10, 1784 by the oath of the executrix and by the oath of the executor and by the oaths of both witnesses. Mary OBryan quitted her claim to the afd will, and elected thereof her dower or third part of sd estate, both real and personal. Before John Muschett, Reg. of wills Charles Co. MD deed book IB 10 folio 297 dated 6/5/1813 Rev. William, Mary Ann & Basil O'Bryan sell Bristol/Piney Level/Grays Enlargement to Waters, Thomas Gibbons & Vincent King I think this has to be the widow of John & son William. You mention Charles is in Hardin Co., KY? Not sure where Basil fits in, John had a brother Basil....... Not sure that John's father William's wife was Elizabeth Douglas, there were 2 William O'Bryan's in Charles Co., in this time frame. Ignatius O'Bryan s/o William married Rhoda Ann Wethington d/o Thomas Wethington & numerous children married Carrico's in KY. Basil O'Bryan s/o William married Eleanor Wethington d/o Thomas. Doesn't appear they moved to KY with other Wethingtons ca 1795. What happened to descendants Another daughter of Thomas Wethington Mary Wethington married William Carrico who was deceased by 1795. What happened to descendants. St. Mary's in Bryantown shows many godparents of O'bryan & Carrico in the early years: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~boorom/carrico/mdchurch1793_1 861.html Linda Boorom a Carrico descendant ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18450) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

Hi Peter, At one point I did have her maiden name as Langworth, but I'm really not so sure. You could assume she was the sister of James Langworth based on the will of William Johnson. Will of William Johnson, St. Wynefrid's, SMC, 6/7/1656--no probate date. To: Wife, Emma and daughter, Elizabeth Johnson entire estate if they or either of them arrive in England; if not the following division of property to be made: Nephew, William Langworth, son of brother James Langworth, 500 ac. "St. Winifred's"; RCC; Emma Shanks, dau. of John Shanks of St. Clement's Bay; niece, Mrs. Mary Langworth; sisters Agatha Langworth, Elizabeth Price, Elizabeth Morris, and mother Mrs. Elizabeth Morris, personal estate. Exec: Brother, James Langworth. Wit: Luke Gardiner, Robert Cole, William Thompson. But notice in her deposition below she too refers to her "brother-in-law, James Langworth." Archives of Maryland, Volume 41, Provincial Court Proceedings, 1661. Page 564; Liber P.C.R. [p. 1078] The Deposicon of Emma Turner aged thirty two yeares or there abouts sworne this 2d May (1661) Sayth that she this Depont did severall tymes heare her brother in Lawe Mr James Langworth say in his lffe tyme, that Mr Piles must take againe that Plantacon which he had solde Jno Greenwell, and that they were not able to pay him that [p. 1079] Tobacco which was due.. . . to Come into the Country, And that then Mr Piles might sell the plantacon againe for a good rate At another tyme this depont sayth that she heard her brother in Lawe discoursing with Mrs Piles aboute her husbands takeing the plantacon againe, and that upon that discourse her Brother in Lawe did press hard to have, for the Childs use the halfe of such proffitts as Mr Piles should make by selling the Plantacon againe He selling itt for more then the Eight thousand pounds of tobacco which was his due by Condicon And this depont heard Mrs Piles replye that his demand unconscion [able] for these reasons, that the plantacon mought run to Ruine and lye long upon their hands and. . . . husband wanted pay no sayth she 'our full due and my husband shall bate you five hundred pounds of tobacco of the debt, many more words did pass Betweene them two to this or the like purpose this depont remembers whereby her brother in Lawe stiffly urged her for the takeing the plantacon and Mrs Piles as earnestly pressed for the Tobacco, farther this depont sayth that she remembers that on a certaine tyme which tyme this depont can not certainly call to minde at this deponts now dwelling howse where her Brother in Lawe then lived that Mrs Piles did earnest urge Mr Langworth to tell her whether there were any thing else to be done aboute the plantacon that noe future Controversyes might arise, and that her Brother in Lawe did make answere that the plantacon was her husbands and he might doe with itt as he pleased And farther this depont sayth not Emma Turner Sworne before me Tho: Turner. I have Agatha Johnson, sister of William, married to James Langworth. Your thoughts? Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Thompson Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:02 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Cc: John Dobricky Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest Hi List, Is it true that the last name of the Emma, who married Thomas Turner, is not known? I bet Linda knows! I have her as Emma Langworth, daughter of James Langworth and ?. She is my 8g's grandmother. My data is based on the following: "Gave deposition in 1661 that she was 35 yeas old.Widow of William Johnson(1st) and Thomas Turner (2nd). After the death of Thomas she had the Turner property re-surveyed as 550 acres of “St. Thomas”, 500 acres of “St. Barbara’s”, and 200 acres of “little St. Thomas”. John Bapthish Carberry II was apparantly the guardian of this paroberties (sic) for the Turner children and by 1715 all of this land was in the possession of the grandson, Thomas Turner(3). Of “St. Winifred’s”. Transported into Province in 1642 by Francis White (Patents 1:24). Purchased 500 acre tract of “St. Winifred” from Thomas Gerard. The Maryland Calendar of Wills, Volume I Wills from 1635 (Earliest Probated) to 1685 Pages 14-27 Johnson, William, St. Wynefrid's, St. Mary's Co., 7th June, 1656; -- -- --. To wife Emma and dau. Eliza: Johnson, entire estate if they, or either of them, arrive in England; if not, following division of property to be made: To neph. William Langworth, son of brother James Langworth, 500 A. “St. Wynefride.” To Roman Catholic Church, Emma Shanks, dau, of John Shanks of St. Clement's Bay, niece Mrs. Mary Langworth, sisters Agatha Langworth, Eliza: Price, Eliza: Morris, and mother, Mrs. Eliza: Morris, personalty. Ex., brother James Langworth. Test: Luke Gardner, Robt. Cole, Wm. Thompson. 1. 129. Editors: William Johnson immigrated in 1651 and was deceased by 1658 according to Land Records, Liber Q, Folio 19, which includes the information that Aemilia Johnson was the sister-in-law of James Langworth and by 1658, the relict of William Johnson (Gibb Amelia (Emma) did come to Maryland where she married 2nd Thomas Turner and 3rd William Roswell. See both James Langworth's and Thomas Turner's wills below. See also Combs &c. of St. Mary's, 1656-1699 " I hope Linda can confirm/correct/or add to this/ Cheers, Pete On 1/4/13 10:55 AM, John Dobricky wrote: > As always, Linda, your information is wonderful. I also think it is > great to have this information on the website because a LOT of > researchers have the list of marriages for Elizabeth Guibert that I > mentioned earlier--the marriages that were actually for Elizabeth > _________. And, I agree, the dates for the earlier marriages were too > early for Elizabeth Guibert. Do you have any idea who the other > Elizabeth was? > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Linda Reno<lindareno@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Sorry John, but we disagree. >> >> 1. Elizabeth Guibert, b. before 1679, was married twice--first to Thomas >> Turner, Jr. and second to John Baptist Carberry, Jr. (son of John Baptist >> Carberry, Sr. and first wife, Ann Thompson). She was still Elizabeth >> Carberry as late as 1733. >> >> Will of Thomas Turner, SMC 10/31/1696-2/15/1696. Son: Thomas, personal >> estate and 400 ac., pt. of "St. Thomas'". Son: Joshua, personal estate; 190 >> ac. "Audley End"; and 150 ac. residue of "St. Thomas'". Daughter: Monica, >> personal estate and 200 ac. "St. Dorothy's" on the w. side of St. Clement's >> Bay. To: Thomas Bencroft, Robert Thompson, and William Michell, personal >> estate. Wife: Elizabeth (Exec.) residuary legatee of estate, real and >> personal. Wit: Clement Hill, Sr., William Smith, Elizabeth Dash. (Maryland >> Calendar of Wills). >> >> Will of Joshua Guibert, St. Mary's Co., 2/26/1713-5/16/1713. Son: Thomas and >> heirs, dwelling plantation on St. Clement's Bay and lands adjoining thereto. >> Son: Matthew and heirs, "Guibert's Chance" and the addition to same near St. >> Clement's Bay. Son: Joshua and heirs, about 160 ac. "Tower Hill" in Charles >> County, also dwelling plantation afsd. should son Thomas die without issue. >> Daughter: Mary, personalty. Daughter: Eliza.: Carberry, personalty in >> addition to that given her when she married Thomas Turner. Daughter: Ann >> Blackston, personalty in addition to that given her when she married John >> Blackston. Wife: Elizabeth, life interest in dwelling plantation and lands >> devised Thomas afsd. Sons Thomas and Joshua afsd., exs., and residuary >> legatees. Wit.: William Walker, Frances Marritt, John Marritt. (Maryland >> Calendar of Wills). >> >> Elizabeth Carberry, living near St. Clement's Bay in SMC, reports a runaway >> mulatto slave called Matthew, sometimes called Matthew Masters or Matthew >> Fletcher, aged about 27 years. He can pass for a white man. (The Maryland >> Gazette, 3/16/1733). >> >> 2. Elizabeth, b. 1647 (maiden name unknown) was married four times. First, >> was Col. William Evans; second was John Jordan; third was Cuthbert Scott; >> and fourth was John Baptist Carberry, Sr. (widower of Ann Thompson and >> father of JBC, Jr.). >> >> 6/4/1679: William Evans d. 3/1669 seized of a parcel of land on the e. side >> of St. Clement's Bay which he devised by his will to his wife, Elizabeth. >> She married Capt. John Jordan who died about 9/8/1678. She married Cuthbert >> Scott 10/28/1678. (Extracts from Chancery Court Records of Maryland, >> 1669-1679, MD Gen. Soc. Bulletin, Fall 1994). >> >> Chancery Court Proceedings, 1679: And the Jurors do further upon their >> Oaths Say That the said Coll.° William Evans dyed So Seized and possessed of >> the Said Severall Tracts& parcells of Land haveing before his death made >> his last Will& Testam.t in writeing and therein devised the Said Lands by >> will bearing date the tenth day of ffebruary Annoq Domini 1667 as is here >> Expressed viz.t I Give and bequeath unto my Dear& Loveing wife Elizabeth >> Evans all my Lands Goods and Chattels and what (fol. 285) soever else that >> doth belong& appertain unto my Estate or of Right ought to belong or >> appertain thereto And the Jurors do Say that the Said William Evans deceased >> in march Anno Domini 1669 And the Jurors afores.d do upon their oaths >> further Say that Elizabeth Evans Entered into the Land& held the Same >> dureing her widowhood and after to witt in the month of may Anno Domini 1669 >> She Inter married w.th Capt Jn.° Jordain and they the Said John& Elizabeth >> in Right of Elizabeth his wife held the Same untill the Death of the Liber C >> D Said John Jourdain w.th was about the Eigth of September Anno Domini 1678 >> And the Jurors do further Say that from the time the Said Elizabeth Entered >> into the premisses& held the Same dureing her widowhood& after to witt the >> Twenty Eigth day of October Anno 1678 She Intermarried with m.r Cuthbert >> Scott w.ch Said Cuthbert and Elizabeth held and Enjoyed the Same in Right of >> Elizabeth and being So in possession thereof and being informed and advised >> that the last will& Testam.t of the Said Coll.° William Evans in Some part >> thereof is defective and that for want of the words to her and her heir for >> Ever proves only an Estate for life the words heirs& assigns for Ever being >> not Inserted in the Said Will as they Should have been to have made an >> Estate of Inheritance to his wife w.ch the Said Juro.rs do verily believe >> was his Intention they the Said Cuthbert Scott& Elizabeth his wife by their >> Deed bearing date the Eighteenth day of Aprill Annoq Domini 1679 for and in >> p. 233 Consideration of the Summ of thirty thousand pounds of Tobacco (fol. >> 285) in hand paid to them the Said Cuthbert& Elizabeth by the Right Hon.ble >> Charles Lord Baltemore did fully Clearly and absolutely Give Grant alien >> Bargain Sell& Confirm unto the Said Lord Baltemore his heirs and assigns >> for Ever all those pieces and parcells of Land herein these presents before >> Expressed and that by virtue thereof his Lordship became Seized of the Sd >> Lands and premisses dureing the life of the Said Elizabeth Scott by Virtue >> of the Said Deed from the Said Scott and his wife And the Jurors afores.d do >> further Say that the Lands& Tenem.ts are of value by the year in all issues >> the Sum of Sixteen hundred pounds of Tobacco& that they find no heir and >> that Cap.t John Jourdein& m.r Cuthbert Scott hath for the most part >> Occupied the Sd Lands& Tenem.ts from the time of the Death of the Said >> William Evans and the issue& profits thereof hath received and his >> Lordship's Rent for the Same hath paid And that the Said Cuthbert Scott and >> Elizabeth his wife doth now Enjoy the Same as Tennants to my (fol. 286) Lord >> Baltemore afs.d In Testimony whereof as well the Said Corn mission.rs as the >> Juro.rs aforesaid have hereunto Set their hands and affixed their Seals the >> day and year first above Written Clement Hill sealed rs d ommisson.rs >> (Archives of Maryland). >> >> 9/19/1692, Elizabeth, wife of John Baptist Carberry, relict and admix. of >> Cuthbert Scott, dec'd is now herself lately deceased intestate (Test. Pro. >> 14A:4). >> >> Linda Reno >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of John Dobricky >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:45 AM >> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; mdstmary@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Carberry's Discovery/Suttle's Rest >> >> Hi. One correction.....Elizabeth Guibert (daughter of Joshua Guibert >> I and Elizabeth Barber) had more than two husbands. Depending on who >> you talk to, her first husband was William Evans (although I think she >> was too young to have married him), her second husband was John >> Jourdain/Jordan, her third husband was Thomas Turner II, her fourth >> husband was Cuthbert Scott (that is how, John Baptist Carberry ended >> up with the 2,100 acres of "Hopton Park"), and her fifth husband was >> John Baptist Carberry. Of course, feedback, thoughts, and suggestions >> are always welcome. John Dobricky >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:46 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com >> <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>> >>> Author: MarilynRoth58 >>> Surnames: >>> Classification: queries >>> >>> Message Board URL: >>> >>> >>> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.s >> tmarys/4587.1/mb.ashx >> >>> Message Board Post: >>> >>> Perhaps the persons who posted information on Ancestry.com can help. >>> >> Several files have John Baptist CARBERRY, who was born in the 1660's& d. >> bef. 19 Nov. 1728, St. Mary's Co., MD, m. 1697 , St. Mary's Co., MD, >> Elizabeth GUIBERT, b. ca. 1670. He owned "Carberry's Discovery" by 1715. >> >>> The information is somewhat verified by Elise Greenup Jourdan's Early >>> >> Families of Southern Maryland. "St. Thomas," 550 acres, was surveyed for >> Emma TURNER in St. Clement's Hundred, 9 July 1663; also "St. Thomas," 550 >> acres in New Town Hundred, surveyed for Emma TURNER on east side of St. >> Thomas Run that falls into the main run of Choptico Bay. "Little St. >> Thomas," 200 acres, Choptico Hundred, surveyed 23 July 1664 for Emma TURNER >> near the main branch of Choptico; same patented 10 Oct. 1668 for Wm. >> ROSWELL. The above tracts were held in 1707 for TURNER orphans by John >> Baptist CARBERRY. >> >>> Relationships are difficult to state because of the use of terms such as >>> >> sister or brother to mean in-laws, but this seems to be the case: >> >>> Emma (maiden name unknown) m1. Thomas TURNER [Sr.]& m2. Wm. ROSWELL. >>> >> Thomas TURNER [Jr.] married as first husband of Elizabeth GUIBERT, dau/o >> Joshua& Elizabeth. Elizabeth, formerly wf/o Thomas TURNER, m2. 1697 John >> Baptist CARBERRY. >> >>> Maryland Calendar of Wills does not have a will for John B. Carberry in >>> >> 1728. However, there was an inventory of his estate 19 Nov. 1728& 6 Je. >> 1729, Mr. John Baptis CARBERY, 14.182. Next of kin Nicholas MILLS& Eleanor >> CARBERY, administrators Mrs. Elisabeth CARBERY& John Baptis CARBERY. >> >>> Somewhere along the line of owners of the property, there might have been >>> >> an abstract showing all of the prior owners. >> >>> --not my family >>> >>> Important Note: >>> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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