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    1. [MDSTMARY] Jefferson County, KY - Salt River - Plumb Creek, Plumb Run
    2. French, Henry. Publication 29 August 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): French, Henry and Overton, Richard. Description: 400 acres on the waters of the first Creek that Harrods Old Trace crosses below Bullskin Creek a branch of Brashears Creek the said Creek known now by the name of Plumb Creek on Peytons Creek including said Frenches Improvement. Source: VA Land Office Grants No. 18, 1788-1789, p. 476 (Reel 84). Burras, Charles. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2284 acres on both sides of the east fork of Plumb Creek beginning about one mile from the mouth of Said fork. Source: VA Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 464 (Reel 61). Johnston, William. Publication 31 August 1787.Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 842 acres on the waters of Plumb Creek. Source: VA Land Office Grants No.10, 1787, p. 507 (Reel 76). Applegate, Hezakiah. Publication 26 November 1787. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the waters of Plumb Creek. Source: VA Land Office Grants No. 14, 1787-1788, p. 638 (Reel 80). Stevens, Benjamin. Publication 23 July 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 5000 acres on the north side of Salt River and about ten miles up Plumb Creek and on the east side thereof. Source: VA Land Office Grants No. 13, 1787, p. 235 (Reel 79). Peyton, William. Publication 13 March 1786. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on both sides of Plumb Creek a branch of Salt River which empties in on the north side. Source: VA Land Office Grants W, 1786, p. 432 (Reel 63). Christian, Israel. Publication 8 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 100 acres on the north side of Salt River a the mouth of Plumb Creek. Source: VA Land Office Grants Z, 1785-1786, p. 684 (Reel 66). Cox, Isaac. Publication 25 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1180 acres on the north side of Salt River adjoining Israel Christians survey at the mouth of Plumb Creek. Source: VA Land Office Grants X, 1785, p. 203 (Reel 64). Thompson, Robert. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1200 acres on Plumb Creek a branch of Salt River which empties on the north side of said river beginning half a mile from the mouth of said creek. Source: VA Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 696 (Reel 61). McGee, John. Publication 4 March 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 600 acres on the waters of Salt River on Big Creek known by the name of Plumb Creek emptying into Salt River on the north side. Source: VA Land Office Grants P, 1784-1785, p. 208 (Reel 56). Henderson, Bennett. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2351 acres adjoining Charles Burrass’s 2284 acres survey on the east fork of Plumb Creek. . Source: VA Land Office Grants Y, 1786, p. 82 (Reel 65). Crenshaw, Thomas. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1456 1/2 acres on both sides of Plumb Creek a branch of Salt River which empties into said river on the north side. Source: VA Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 466 (Reel 61). Clark, Robert. Publication 5 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1523 acres on the north side of Salt River about one and a half miles below the mouth of Plumb Creek. Source: VA Land Office Grants S, 1785-1786, p. 576 (Reel 59). Kemp, James. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2500 acres between Plumb Creek and Bulskin adjoining Francis Smith and Geo Madison. Source: VA Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 584 (Reel 61). Plumb Run Bryan, William. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 932 acres between the waters of Floyds fork and Plumb Run adjoining Joseph Sprigg. Source: VA Land Office Grants X, 1785, p. 137 (Reel 64). Bryan, William. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres between the waters of Floyds fork end Plumb Run. Source: VA Land Office Grants X, 1785, p. 85 (Reel 64). Powell, Leven. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2000 acres beginning &c on the west side of Simpsons Creek a branch of the Town fork of Salt River about 20 poles above the mouth of Plumb Run. Source: VA Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 356 (Reel 47). Hornsby, Joseph. Publication 20 April 1792. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1200 acres on the waters of Plumb Run. Source: VA Land Office Grants No. 24, 1791-1792, p. 631 (Reel 90). Combs, Joseph. Publication 19 July 1786. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres beginning on Simpsons Creek about 20 poles above the mouth of Plumb Run. Source: VA Land Office Grants No. 3, 1786, p. 715 (Reel 69). Peyton, William. Publication 21 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on Plumb Run. Source: VA Land Office Grants No. 7, 1786-1787, p. 584 (Reel 73). Edwards, Haden. Publication 2 December 1785. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 800 acres between the waters of Floyds Fork and Plumb Run adjoining William Allen. Source: VA Land Office Grants Z, 1785-1786, p. 330 (Reel 66). Scott, James. Publication 2 December 1785.Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1374 1/2 acres on the head waters of the Beaver Dam Fork and Plumb Run South branches of Big Clifty and the head of Helms Fork of Bear Creek. Source: VA Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 558 (Reel 61). Hines, Hannah. Publication 1 June 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on Rough Creek adjoining David Leitch and about 3 miles below the mouth of Big Clifty. Source: VA Land Office Grants No. 9, 1787, p. 430 (Reel 75). Note: Hannah Hines was the mother of Andrew Hynes who established Elizabethtown, KY; widow of William Hines of the Tonoloways, m2 James Barnes. -- ep **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)

    11/02/2008 01:03:19
    1. [MDSTMARY] Jefferson County, KY - Deeds -- Part 3
    2. Continued from Part 2 ---- All patents are from VA Patents as cited. Laird, David. Publication 20 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 636 1/4 acres on the Rolling Fork of Salt River on the north east side adjoining Joel Rees. Source: Land Office Grants No. 5, 1786, p. 376 (Reel 71). Myers, Jacob. Publication 14 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1500 acres on the south side of Salt River and near the mouth of the Rolling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 4, 1786, p. 368 (Reel 70). Reese, Joel. Publication 20 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the waters of the Rolling fork of Salt River half a mile south east of the Cedar Lick. Source: Land Office Grants No. 4, 1786, p. 237 (Reel 70). Huffman, Philip. Publication 4 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on Wilsons Creek a branch of the Rolling Fork of Salt River adjoining George Wilsons Preemption. Source: Land Office Grants No. 1, 1785, 1786-1787, p. 453 (Reel 67). Tankersly, George. Publication 11 January 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres near the head of a branch of the Rolling Fork of Salt River that interlocks with the head waters of the north west fork of Sinking Creek and the east branches of Brush Creek. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 63 (Reel 62). Harrison, Benjamin, Jr. Publication 15 July 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Harrison, Benjamin, Jr. (in 15 July 1786 his own right and in Trust for James Nourse, Jr., Stephen T. Mason and the legal representatives of William Drew, Dec.d). Description: 202-2/3 acres on Salt Lick Creek a South branch of the Rolling fork, adjoining Silas Hardins survey. Source: Land Office Grants I, 1783-1784, p. 370 (Reel 50). Sutherland, John. Publication 10 July 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres adjoining Nathaniel Bealls 500 acres survey at the mouth of Salt Lick Creek on the south side of the Rolling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 5, 1786, p. 271 (Reel 71). Purcell, Thomas. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on Crooked Run a branch of Fox Creek which empties into the Rolling Fork of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 616 (Reel 62). Mitchell, David. Publication 2 December 1785. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Mitchell, David and Wilson, George. Description: 400 acres on Wilsons Creek a branch of the Rolling fork of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 480 (Reel 61). Macker, John. Publication 10 December 1785. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on Cane Run a branch of Fox Creek emptying into the Rolling Fork of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 111 (Reel 61). Macker, John. Publication 10 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on Cane Run a branch of Fox Creek emptying into the Rolling Fork of Salt River below Wilsons Creek. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 110 (Reel 61). Macher, John. Publication 10 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on Wilsons Creek a branch of the Rolling Fork of Salt River adjoining Philip Huffmans survey. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 95 (Reel 61). Harrison, Cuthbert. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 5000 acres on the Rolling Fork of Salt River beginning at the upper end of the first narrows below the mouth of Fox Creek. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 162 (Reel 62). Bodey, Peter. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 545 acres on the waters of Nolin and the Rolling fork of Salt River about 3 miles from Nolins Station. Source: Land Office Grants X, 1785, p. 101 (Reel 64). Davis, John. Publication 21 June 1784. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres beginning on the north bank of the Rolling Fork of Salt River at the mouth of a small drain about 80 poles below Barnets Station. Source: Land Office Grants P, 1784-1785, p. 52 (Reel 56). Stewart, William. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the waters of the Rolling Fork of Salt River about two miles north of the Cedar Lick. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 233 (Reel 47). Clark, Christopher. Publication 7 May 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2000 acres on the waters of the Rolling fork of Salt River beginning eight poles north of the Elk Lick. Source: Land Office Grants O, 1785, p. 478 (Reel 55). Finish --- **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)

    11/02/2008 12:59:45
    1. [MDSTMARY] Jefferson County, KY - Deeds -- Part 2
    2. Jefferson County was organized in 1780 and one of the first three counties formed out of the original Kentucky County, which was still part of Virginia at the time (the other two being Fayette and Lincoln). Between 1780 and 1789, a total of nine counties were created by the Commonwealth of Virginia in the Kentucky District. Those nine were in existence when Kentucky was granted statehood in 1792, and none have passed out of existence. Moving in an eastward (roughly) direction, they are Lincoln, Nelson, Jefferson, Mercer, Woodford, Fayette, Madison, Bourbon, and Mason. Nelson County was taken out of Jefferson County in 1785. Hardin was formed from Nelson in 1793. Ohio was formed from Hardin in 1799 ============================================== Continued from Part 1--- Note all Patents are from the VA Patent Office as cited. Alvey, John. Publication 6 June 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 200 acres beginning at James Stuarts corner on the waters of Buffaloe Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 13, 1787, p. 45 (Reel 79). Barbour, Thomas. Publication 29 October 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 10000 acres on Panther Creek a branch of Green River adjoining George Masons 700 acres survey. Source: Land Office Grants No. 18, 1788-1789, p. 567 (Reel 84). Crow, John. Publication 9 October 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 4000 acres on the north side of Green River at the mouth of Reedy Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 18, 1788-1789, p. 499 (Reel 84). Duncan, Charles. Publication 2 May 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 468 acres on a branch of Drennings Lick Creek adjoining Valentine Harrisons survey. Source: Land Office Grants No. 16, 1787-1788, p. 682 (Reel 82). French, James. Publication 22 August 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 47 1/2 acres on the waters of Otter Creek adjoining George Boons Preemption. Source: Land Office Grants No. 17, 1788, p. 707 (Reel 83). French, Henry. Publication 29 August 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): French, Henry and Overton, Richard. Description: 400 acres on the waters of the first Creek that Harrods Old Trace crosses below Bullskin Creek a branch of Brashears Creek the said Creek known now by the name of Plumb Creek on Peytons Creek including said Frenches Improvement. Source: Land Office Grants No. 18, 1788-1789, p. 476 (Reel 84). Thompson, George. Publication 23 March 1789. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 250 acres on the waters of Fox Run adjoining his settlement. Source: Land Office Grants No. 20, 1788-1789, p. 185 (Reel 86). Pottinger, William. Publication 19 May 1790. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 240 acres on the Cedar Lick fork of Pottengers Creek about four miles from his station. Source: Land Office Grants No. 23, 1790-1791, p. 203 (Reel 89). Ford, Jonathan. Publication 21 April 1792. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the northside of the Rolling Fork including the Horse Shoe Bend. Source: Land Office Grants No. 26, 1792, p. 193 (Reel 92). Moore, Elizabeth. Publication 26 April 1792. Related See also the following surname(s): Moor. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 409 acres on the Fish Pool Creek adjoining a 591 acres survey of James F. Moore. Source: Land Office Grants No. 24, 1791-1792, p. 699 (Reel 90). May, William. Publication 29 July 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 3000 acres on the west side of the Rowling fork and south side of Youngers Creek about two and a half miles from the mouth. Source: Land Office Grants No. 18, 1788-1789, p. 203 (Reel 84). Myers, Jacob. Publication 14 May 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1200 acres on the waters of Salt River about three or four miles below the mouth of the Rowling Fork adjoining Francis Holland. Source: Land Office Grants No. 16, 1787-1788, p. 749 (Reel 82). Hood, John. Publication 2 July 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 30,000 acres beginning in a line of George James survey that adjoins the county line and south fork of the Rowling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 18, 1788-1789, p. 36 (Reel 84). Alvey, John. Publication 7 May 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 115 acres near the head of Youngers Run a branch of the Rowling fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 12, 1787, p. 126 (Reel 78). Davis, Lewis. Publication 18 April 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on Clear Creek a branch of the Rowling Fork of Salt River on the south side of said fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 9, 1787, p. 349 (Reel 75). Zigler, James. Publication 4 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 250 acres on a south branch of the Rowling Fork of Salt River it being the first creek on the north side of the fork above the mouth of Prathers. Source: Land Office Grants Y, 1786, p. 328 (Reel 65). Southerland, John. Publication 20 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 300 acres on some of the waters of Pottinger Creek a branch of the Rowling Fork and on some of the waters of the Beech Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 4, 1786, p. 682 (Reel 70). Tracy, Samuel. Publication 4 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the south side of the Rowling Fork of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants Y, 1786, p. 365 (Reel 65). Smith, Robert. Publication 20 February 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 10,800 acres on the head of the Eastern Branches of Nolelinn and Southern Branches of the Rowling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 647 (Reel 61). Low, Nicholas. Publication 20 February 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 15,000 acres on the waters of the Rowling Fork and Green River. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 492 (Reel 62). King, John E. Publication 14 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): King, John E. and King, Valentine. Description: 1940 acres on the waters of the Rowling Fork of Salt River beginning at the head of the west branch of Clear Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 6, 1786, p. 85 (Reel 72). Huston, John. Publication 15 April 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1260 acres on Cloyds Creek Waters of the Rowling Fork of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants No. 1, 1785, 1786-1787, p. 226 (Reel 67). Hite, Isaac. Publication 20 August 1786. Related See also the following surname(s): Hight, Hyte. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 615 acres on the head of Cartrights Creek and the waters of the Rowling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 5, 1786, p. 108 (Reel 71). Harrison, Benjamin, Jr. Publication 14 July 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Harrison, Benjamin, Jr. (in 14 July 1786 his own right and in Trust for James Nourse, Jr., Stephen T. Mason and the legal representatives of William Drew, Dec.d). Description: 962 acres on the north side of the Rowling fork beginning about one mile above the mouth of Otter Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 3, 1786, p. 393 (Reel 69). Harrison, Benjamin, Jr. Publication 14 July 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Harrison, Benjamin, Jr. (in 14 July 1786 his own right and in Trust for James Nourse, Jr., Stephen T. Mason and the legal representatives of William Drew, Dec.d). Description: 1000 acres on the Main right hand fork of Otter Creek a south branch of the Rowling fork and nearly where the Creek comes out of the Barrens. Source: Land Office Grants No. 3, 1786, p. 385 (Reel 69). Harlin, Jacob. Publication 2 October 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the Rowling Fork beginning near the mouth of the south fork where it empties into the Main fork opposite the Jump Lick. Source: Land Office Grants No. 7, 1786-1787, p. 46 (Reel 73). Kennady, John. Publication 20 April 1784. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on Youger Creek a branch of the Rowling Fork of Salt River and about fifty poles above the mouth of the Rowling Fork and Beech Fork on the south side of Rowling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants K, 1783-1784, p. 557 (Reel 51). Watkins, Isham. Publication 1 June 1782. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 100 acres on the waters of Hardens Creek and the waters of the Rowling Fork branches of Salt River about 3 miles east from the head of Pottingers Creek. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 346 (Reel 47). Green, John, Jr. Publication 8 January 1784. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the Dividing Flat between the waters of the Beach and Rowling fork including several branches of Hardens Creek a branch of said Beach fork. Source: Land Office Grants K, 1783-1784, p. 133 (Reel 51). Stewart, William. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the waters of the Rowling Fork a branch of Salt River about four miles north of the Ceder Licks. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 228 (Reel 47). Gratton, John. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the waters of the Rowling Fork a branch of Salt River and about four or five miles north from the Indian Licks. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 53 (Reel 48). Lewis, John. Publication 1 June 1782. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Lewis, John and May, Richard. Description: 1000 acres on the waters of Hardens Creek and the waters of the Rowling Fork waters of Salt River and about four miles east and north east from the head of Pottingers Creek. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 458 (Reel 47). Eggleston, Edmund. Publication 1 June 1782. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1600 acres on the waters of Hardens Creek and the waters of the Rowling Fork the waters of Salt River about 3 miles from the head of Pottingers Creek. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 49 (Reel 48). Stewart, William. Publication 1 June 1782. Related See also the following surname(s): Stuart. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the waters of the Rowling Fork a branch of Salt River lying about 3 or 4 miles from the Cedar Licks a north course from the same. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 238 (Reel 47). Manson, Peter. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the waters of the Rowling Fork a branch of Salt River and about four miles north of the Indian Licks. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 14 (Reel 48). Scott, William. Publication 22 May. [1786] Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 700 acres beginning on the south side of the Beech Fork of Salt River about two and three quarters miles below where it runs into the Rolling fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 2, 1786, p. 282 (Reel 68). Myers, Jacob Publication 30 April 1792. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 100 acres on the north side of Salt River adjoining and above a 1000 acres survey of said Myers’s which lies opposite the mouth of the Rolling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 24, 1791-1792, p. 682 (Reel 90). Myers, Jacob. Publication 30 April 1792. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 5796 1/4 acres on the north side of Salt River adjoining and above a 1000 acres survey of said Myers’s which lies opposite to the mouth of the Rolling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 24, 1791-1792, p. 680 (Reel 90). Coburn, John. Publication 29 July 1788. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Coburn, John and Wilson, Nathaniel. Description: 5688 acres on the heads of the Northern Branches of Nolin and the waters of the Rolling Fork of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants No. 18, 1788-1789, p. 198 (Reel 84). Beall, Nathan. Publication 20 September 1787. Related See also the following surname(s): Beal, Bell. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the south side of the Rolling fork at the mouth of Salt Lick Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 14, 1787-1788, p. 610 (Reel 80). --- Continued in Part 3 ---- **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! 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    11/02/2008 12:47:54
    1. [MDSTMARY] Jefferson County, KY - Deeds -- Part 1
    2. JEFFERSON COUNTY, KY was organized in 1780 and one of the first three counties formed out of the original Kentucky County, which was still part of Virginia at the time (the other two being Fayette and Lincoln). Between 1780 and 1789, a total of nine counties were created by the Commonwealth of Virginia in the Kentucky District. Those nine were in existence when Kentucky was granted statehood in 1792, and none have passed out of existence. Moving in an eastward (roughly) direction, they are Lincoln, Nelson, Jefferson, Mercer, Woodford, Fayette, Madison, Bourbon, and Mason. Nelson County was taken out of Jefferson County in 1785. Hardin was formed from Nelson in 1793. Ohio was formed from Hardin in 1799 ============================================================================== =========== Boone, Squire. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on both sides of Clear Creek a fork of Brashears Creek adjoining his settlement called the Tainted Stone Tract. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 205 (Reel 47). Boone, Squire. Publication 19 November 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on both sides of Fox Run a branch of Brashears Creek. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 335 (Reel 61). King, John. Publication 1 September 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on Pleasant Run a branch of the Beech Fork. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 177 (Reel 48). Boone, Sarah. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 250 acres on Fox Run a fork of Brachears Creek. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 203 (Reel 47). Stewart, William. Publication 1 June 1782. Related See also the following surname(s): Stuart. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the waters of the Rolling Fork of Salt River about two miles north of the Cedar Lick. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 233 (Reel 47). Stewart, William. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the waters of the Rowling Fork a branch of Salt River about four miles north of the Ceder Licks. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 228 (Reel 47). Stewart, William.Publication 1 November 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 422 acres on the waters of Mill Creek a branch of the Beech Fork a branch of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 233 (Reel 48). Stewart, William. Publication 1 November 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 600 acres on the west side of Hardens Creek a branch of the Beech Fork a branch of Salt River lying about five miles from the Indian Licks. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 234 (Reel 48). Stewart, William. Publication 1 September 1782. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the waters of Stewarts Creek, a branch of the Beech Fork a branch of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 91 (Reel 48). Overton, James. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the waters of Pleasant Run a branch of the Beech fork a branch of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 56 (Reel 48). Penick, James. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the west side of Hardens Creek a branch of the Beech Fork a branch of Salt Rivet and about four or five miles west of the Indian Licks. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 47 (Reel 48). Watkins, Isham. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 100 acres on the waters of Hardens Creek and the waters of the Rowling Fork branches of Salt River about 3 miles east from the head of Pottingers Creek. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 346 (Reel 47). Askings, John. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on Hardins Creek adjoining Lewis Thomas and Mark Harden. Source: Land Office Grants F, 1781-1782, p. 369 (Reel 47). Shepherd, Peter. Publication 1 November 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 600 acres beginning on the upper side of Salt River near the upper part of the Falls of said river. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 267 (Reel 48). Williams, Evan. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 600 acres on the waters of the Beech Fork beginning at the mouth of Panther Run on the east side of Cedar Creek. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 28 (Reel 48). Harden, Benjamin. Publication 1 June 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 800 acres beginning on the south side of the south fork of Soverns Run a branch of Cartwrights Creek and about a mile above the forks of said run. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 50 (Reel 48). McCoun, James, Jr. Publication 20 December 1782. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1400 acres on both sides of the Town fork of Salt River beginning on the north side of Salt River about three quarters of a mile above the mouth of Hammons Creek. Source: Land Office Grants G, 1782-1783, p. 303 (Reel 48). Strather, Joseph. Publication 15 December 1784. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the middle fork of Prathers Creek waters of the Rolling Fork adjoining George James and Hudson Martin. Source: Land Office Grants N, 1784-1785, p. 414 (Reel 54). Stewart, James. Publication 15 June 1784. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on an east branch of Buffaloe Run waters of the Beech Fork. Source: Land Office Grants N, 1784-1785, p. 177 (Reel 54). Green, John, Jr. Publication 8 January 1784. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the Dividing Flat between the waters of the Beach and Rowling fork including several branches of Hardens Creek a branch of said Beach fork. Source: Land Office Grants K, 1783-1784, p. 133 (Reel 51). Evans, David. Publication 1 May 1784. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the south side of Salt River about one mile above the mouth of Simpsons Creek. Source: Land Office Grants M, 1781-1785, p. 213 (Reel 53). Pottinger, Samuel. Publication 1 April 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on Pottingers Creek a branch of the Rolling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants O, 1785, p. 188 (Reel 55). Pottinger, Samuel. Publication 14 February 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on Pottingers Creek a branch of the Rolling Fork. Source: Land Office Grants P, 1784-1785, p. 285 (Reel 56). \ Pottinger, Samuel. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 160 acres on the north fork of Pottingers Creek and adjoining his preemption. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 599 (Reel 62). Atherton, Aaron. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the south side of Beech fork adjoining land of Mitchell and Wilson. Source: Land Office Grants Z, 1785-1786, p. 443 (Reel 66). Norris, Ezekiel. Publication 1 June 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the south side of the beach fork and at the mouth of Hardens Creek. Source: Land Office Grants Q, 1785, p. 74 (Reel 57). Pope, Henry. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 300 acres on a branch emptying in on the north side of the Rolling Fork about three miles below the Jump Lick on the lower side of said branch. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 614 (Reel 62). Pope, Benjamin. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on Cartwrights Creek adjoining Jacob Myers. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 398 (Reel 61). Pope, Henry. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 300 acres on a branch emptying in on the north side of the Rolling Fork about three miles below the Jump Lick on the lower side of said branch. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 614 (Reel 62). Pope, William. Publication 19 January 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the waters of Brushy Pond Creek about 6 miles south from the falls of Ohio. Source: Land Office Grants N, 1784-1785, p. 682 (Reel 54). Railey, Barney. Publication 19 May 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 50 acres beginning about two miles above the mouth of Cox ’s Creek and about 200 poles on the south side of Salt River. Source: Land Office Grants O, 1785, p. 617 (Reel 55). Hamilton, Thomas. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 200 acres on the head of Cartrights Creek adjoining Joseph Hughes and Evan Shelby. Source: Land Office Grants Y, 1786, p. 49 (Reel 65). Southerland, John. Publication 20 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 300 acres on some of the waters of Pottinger Creek a branch of the Rowling Fork and on some of the waters of the Beech Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 4, 1786, p. 682 (Reel 70). Pottinger, William. Publication 19 May 1790. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 240 acres on the Cedar Lick fork of Pottengers Creek about four miles from his station. Source: Land Office Grants No. 23, 1790-1791, p. 203 (Reel 89). Fulkerson, Philip. Publication 21 April 1792. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 250 acres on the waters of Pottingers Creek adjoining Pottinger and Simmons. Source: Land Office Grants No. 26, 1792, p. 194 (Reel 92). Harrod, James. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres adjoining James Coburns Settlement and Nicholas Meriwethers Preemption. Source: Land Office Grants X, 1785, p. 495 (Reel 64). Clark, Robert. Publication 5 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1523 acres on the north side of Salt River about one and a half miles below the mouth of Plumb Creek. Source: Land Office Grants S, 1785-1786, p. 576 (Reel 59). Combs, William. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the head waters of Coxes Creek adjoining his preemption on lands on the north. Source: Land Office Grants T, 1785, p. 562 (Reel 60). Combs, Joseph. Publication 20 August 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the waters of Floyds fork on the West side of the same. Source: Land Office Grants S, 1785-1786, p. 170 (Reel 59). Combs, Joseph. Publication 19 July 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres beginning on Simpsons Creek about 20 poles above the mouth of Plumb Run. Source: Land Office Grants No. 3, 1786, p. 715 (Reel 69). Combs, Jesse. Publication 14 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 510 acres on the waters of Green River and in Soverns Valley adjoining John Warford and Thomas Helm. Source: Land Office Grants No. 5, 1786, p. 318 (Reel 71). Crow, John. Publication 20 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1343 acres including the Big Pond on the head of the south fork of Nolin. Source: Land Office Grants T, 1785, p. 332 (Reel 60). Crow, John. Publication 20 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1500 acres on on waters of Green River adjoining John Tenants Survey of 4000 acres. Source: Land Office Grants T, 1785, p. 350 (Reel 60). Crow, John. Publication 25 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2458 acres on both sides of Reedy Creek including the main forks thereof, being the first north branch of Green River below Bear Creek. Source: Land Office Grants Z, 1785-1786, p. 583 (Reel 66). Ashcraft, Elizabeth. Publication 24 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the west side of Bear Creek a branch of Green River and on both sides of the first west branch of said creek below the Clay Lick fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 2, 1786, p. 452 (Reel 68). Ashcraft, Jediah. Publication 23 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1276 acres on the west side of Bear Creek a branch of Green River. Source: Land Office Grants Z, 1785-1786, p. 589 (Reel 66). Finley, William. Publication 18 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Finley, William and Crow, William. Description: 1828 acres on the east side of Bear Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 7, 1786-1787, p. 577 (Reel 73). Crow, William. Publication 18 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Finley, William and Crow, William. Description: 1828 acres. Source: Land Office Grants No. 7, 1786-1787, p. 577 (Reel 73). Duncan, Charles. Publication 15 July 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 332 acres on the waters of the Beach Fork beginning at John Wrens Corner. Source: Land Office Grants Q, 1785, p. 457 (Reel 57). Abel, Peter. Publication 15 June 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Barbour, Thomas and Abel, Peter. Description: 1000 acres. Source: Land Office Grants O, 1785, p. 556 (Reel 55). Beal, Walter. Publication 28 January 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2600 acres beginning about 26 poles SE from a Sulpher Lick on a south run of the Trace fork of Pitmans Creek a branch of Green River. Source: Land Office Grants P, 1784-1785, p. 180 (Reel 56). Johnson, Robert. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 3000 acres on the south side of Kentucky adjoining Mordecai Hord, Samuel Beall. Source: Land Office Grants T, 1785, p. 668 (Reel 60). Johnson, James. Publication 2 December 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the waters of Sinking Run opposite to the head of a west branch of the north fork of Cany. Source: Land Office Grants U, 1786, p. 734 (Reel 61). Beall, Walter. Publication 27 January 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 2000 acres on the mouth of a large run emptying into Green River about 12 miles above the mouth Pitmans, alias Sinking Creek said run being remarkable for parting into two equal forks in Green River Bottom. Source: Land Office Grants N, 1784-1785, p. 585 (Reel 54). Johnston, Richard. Publication 23 May 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the waters of Salt River at the Poplar Level. Source: Land Office Grants O, 1785, p. 722 (Reel 55). Beall, Walter. Publication 29 January 1785. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres adjoining his survey of 2000 acres on the Sulpher Lick fork of a large run emptying into Green River about 12 Miles above the mouth of Sinking Creek. Source: Land Office Grants N, 1784-1785, p. 587 (Reel 54). Thompson, William. Publication 12 June 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 500 acres on the west fork of Cox’s Creek adjoining land of Thomas Bell and others. Source: Land Office Grants No. 4, 1786, p. 73 (Reel 70). Abell, Peter. Publication 8 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Abell, Peter and James, George. Description: 500 acres on the waters of Pottingers Creek. Source: Land Office Grants W, 1786, p. 598 (Reel 63). Harris, James. Publication 11 January 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 3000 acres on Green River adjoining John Tenants 4000 acres survey. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 55 (Reel 62). \ Harris, James. Publication 11 January 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 3000 acres on Green River adjoining John Tenants 4000 acres survey. Source: Land Office Grants V, 1786, p. 55 (Reel 62). Harris, Stephen. Publication 14 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 300 acres on a large Western Branch of Red Lick Creek emptying in about three miles from the mouth. Source: Land Office Grants No. 6, 1786, p. 49 (Reel 72). Harrod, James. Publication 25 May 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the north side of Green River beginning at the upper corner of Joseph Bryans survey of 360 acres and about two and a half miles below the mouth of Bear Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 2, 1786, p. 348 (Reel 68). Hynes, Andrew. Publication 20 June 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 280 acres on Mill Creek a branch of Salt River adjoining Jacob Myers Preemption on the east. Source: Land Office Grants No. 4, 1786, p. 49 (Reel 70). Hynes, Andrew. Publication 20 August 1786. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Grantee(s): Hite, Abraham and Hynes, Andrew. Description: 900 acres. Source: Land Office Grants No. 5, 1786, p. 127 (Reel 71). Abell, Peter. Publication 20 August 1786. Grantee(s): Abell, Peter and James, George. Description: 1000 acres on the head of Billey Creek and adjoining John Mays survey of 400 acres. Source: Land Office Grants No. 6, 1786, p. 13 (Reel 72). Merewether, Nicholas. Publication 22 May 1786. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on the north side of Salt River beginning on a branch of the first large creek below the large Buffaloe Lick on the river. Source: Land Office Grants No. 2, 1786, p. 261 (Reel 68). Pickins, Aaron. Publication 14 August 1786. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on the waters of Simpsons Creek and the waters of the Beech fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 4, 1786, p. 300 (Reel 70). Alvey, John. Publication 7 May 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 115 acres near the head of Youngers Run a branch of the Rowling fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 12, 1787, p. 126 (Reel 78). Chinn, Charles. Publication 3 September 1787. Related See also the following surname(s): Chynn. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1000 acres on Long Lick Creek a south branch of Salt River about two miles from and above the Lick. Source: Land Office Grants No. 12, 1787, p. 572 (Reel 78). Johnston, William. Publication 31 August 1787. Note Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 842 acres on the waters of Plumb Creek. Source: Land Office Grants No. 10, 1787, p. 507 (Reel 76). Hines, Hannah. Publication 1 June 1787. Virginia Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 400 acres on Rough Creek adjoining David Leitch and about 3 miles below the mouth of Big Clifty. Source: Land Office Grants No. 9, 1787, p. 430 (Reel 75). Crow, John. Publication 21 May 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 640 acres on the north side of Green River and adjoining Walker, Daniel. Source: Land Office Grants No. 12, 1787, p. 30 (Reel 78). Crow, John. Publication 21 May 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 1157 acres on both sides of Bear Creek a branch of Green River. Source: Land Office Grants No. 12, 1787, p. 81 (Reel 78). Crow, William. Publication 20 May 1787. Location: Jefferson County (Ky.). Description: 800 acres on the east fork of Cedar Creek waters of Floyds Fork. Source: Land Office Grants No. 10, 1787, p. 254 (Reel 76). ---- Continued, Part 2 --- **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)

    11/02/2008 12:37:13
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes
    2. Jackie King
    3. Peg - Thank you for your thoughtful and well researched note. Yes much of this I was aware of. Let me fill in a few gaps and clarify a few others thing which I hope will lead to other discoveries. First the Hillary in the 1840s tax lists I believe is a second Hillary - and the one I originally set out to find. In looking for him, I had to distinguish him from the Washington D.C. Hillary. The second Hillary (found in the Marion County tax rolls in the 1840s) was born abt 1818, son, I believe, of Robert Rhodes and his wife Elizabeth Cissell. I first thought him to be the son of Bennet but others have convinced me differently. The second and younger Hillary would have been born (if I am correct about the first one) about the same time as William and Mildred and their sons were visiting Kentucky. The second Hillary married Louisa Mattingly, daughter of Charles Fowler Mattingly and Hennie Miles and had at least nine children. Louisa died in Kentucky - This Hillary went on to join several of his sons in Illinois and died there. As for the original Hillary and his father William: I was aware of the Warner book and it was my joy and bane at the same time. William's wife may have been called Sally - but she goes by Anne in the legal records. Because of the red herring it took a long time to find her - and also because of the innumerable Joseph Semmes/Simmss. And then we found this little snippet: Georgetown Architecture-Northwest; Northwest Washington: District of Columbia by United States Commission of Fine Arts - Architecture - 1970 - 661 pages Page 418 DC-200 (Page 2) 1801-1850 HISTORICAL BACKGROUND In August, 1801 William Rhodes and his wife, Anne (sometimes spelled "Ann" in the documents), ... Working around with the google books snippets you can reveal this: "Georgetown University eventually acquired a home that had been owned by William and Ann Rhodes. "In Aug. 1801 William Rhodes and wife Ann to Edward Simms. Deed Aug. 27, Recorded Aug. 27, 1801. Liber G-7, folio 256 1830" Unfortunately the Georgetown University records reveal little more at this time. Because of the fire there a year or so ago, it may be sometime before more is found. Anne Rhodes is also mention in Edward Simms will in Jan 1804 as are curiously some Clark(e)s. Following that land backward we find that at some point Ann was first married to Thomas Clark(e) which produced this advertisement: Sale By order of the orphans Court, of Montgomery County, will be Sold, on the first Wednesday, in January next, at the house of Doct. James H. Blake, in Geo. Town, Sundry Articles of Household Furniture, consisting of Mahogany Chairs and Ta- bles, Looking Glasses &c. - Late the pro- perty of Mr. Thomas Clark deceased. Notes negociable at the Bank, with good en dorsers, payable in sixty days will be required. ANN CLARK, Adm'rx December 1st, 1796 (From the Centinel of Liberty 12 Dec 1796) About nine months later Ann is informing the creditors there is not enough to cover all of her late husband's debts. I have not been able to find their exact marriage date nor her exact death date. But because of the 1804 will of Edward Simms she is undoubtedly Hillary and William's mother. A couple of notes that I have show that when William left what became known as the Rhodes Tavern, he operated several other well known and larger inn's and taverns, and it is the sale of his property from one of those that you note in 1819. The Henry you mention is somewhat of a mystery to me but at present I can't find him tied into this bunch. Although I do not have Hillary's full military record I have been able to track quite a bit about him. He married in 1834 in Georgetown (Washington) Marion Steuart Carter, daughter of Charles Landon Carter of Ridgeville, and granddaughter of Landon Carter, Jr. - one of the Robert King Carter line and his wife Ann Steuart. His wife's maternal side includes one of the first mayors of Washington D.C. as well as a number of other military and naval "names". Hillary and his wife bought a house on the outskirts of Leesburg Virginia in 1840 but there is some evidence they may have been living in the area for quite some time on Carter land which was the subject of a lawsuit that developed into a major schism of the Carter family. His wife died in 1844 and is buried in Leesburg. Her death left him with four relatively small children, who were taken to St. Louis by the Carter family and raised there. The family was quite well known amongst the riverboaters of the era, was involved in the Dred Scott case and the settlement of the upper midwest. Hillary was one of those drummed from the Navy in 1855-1856 in its restructuring. He died on his way to St. Louis and is buried there. While he did have a tie with Norwich, school officials there tell me they do not have complete records as to exactly what his tie was. During his service career he served on such ships as the Constellation, Porpoise during its voyages of exploration, Lexington and Falmouth chasing slavers at the very time his wife's family was among the largest slave holders in the south. Hillary and William seem to tie the Rhodes family together well, particularly if we make the William born in Washington and died in Kentucky as the brother of Hillary... but it leaves the mystery of who are all those kids with Bennet and his wife? I wish I could claim credit for all this research, but there have been many who have helped - in particular Karen Fowler Caldwell with whom I have spent many late night hours pouring over newspapers, old records and other material. Had she not pointed out some land records and other documents to me - I would have never sorted out the two Hillarys let alone made any of these connections. Jackie MOman254@aol.com wrote: > > > > Jackie and List, > > > > Thank you for sharing your thinking and research on William, William > and Hillary Rhodes. > > > > I haven't found a relationship between the Fenwicks and Rhodes. On > page 134 in _At Peace With All their Neighbors: Catholics and > Catholicism in the National Capital, 1787-1860 _is the following: > > " Then, in the summer of 1797, after President Washington silenced all > arguments by declaring the government’s executive departments should > be next to or near the President’s House rather than the Capitol, > Bennett Fenwick quickly stepped into the picture. He bought the > corner lot next to Hoban and Purcell’s on 15^th and F, which, as > matters turned out, would be almost across the street from the > projected Hadfield-Harbaugh Treasury Building. Here Fenwick built > what was advertised as “a large and convenient three-story brick > house.” Two years later William Rhodes purchased the Little Hotel from > Hoban and Purcell and then bought or rented Fenwick’s adjoining brick > house in 1801 to make up what was known as the Rhodes Hotel (later > Tavern). Three or four years later Rhodes, who was soon to marry > Sally Semmes at St. Patrick’s, leased the hotel to Joseph Semmes of > Georgetown’s City Tavern while he went on the buy Lovell’s Hotel north > of the President’s Square, originally another Hoban and Purcell > property. Initially, all involved did very well. In the “city of > magnificent distances,” in the city whose streets, squares and lots > existed mainly on Ellicott’s map, they had chosen the right place. > Rhodes Tavern quickly became early Washington’s unofficial city hall. > And F Street east of the President’s House, as Hoban had forseen, > proved to be the center of the city’s first and most fashionable > “downtown” cluster." (William W. Warner, pub. Georgetown University > Press, 1994) > > > > The mention of Hadfield fits nicely with the suit of William Rhodes v. > George Hadfield (Circuit Court, District of Columbia, *May Term 1825; > *2 Cranch C.C. 566, 20 F.Cas. 653, 2 D.C. 566, No. 11,748 Case No. > 11,748, 2 Cranch, C. C. 566 [FN1] > <http://creditcard.westlaw.com/search/default.wl#FN;F0011#FN;F0011>) > that identifies his father as William and the widow as Mildred. > Presumably the defendant was George Hadfield, Architect to > superintend the construction of on the Capitol (obituary, 13 Feb 1826, > National Intelligencer). > > > > Could he be the same William Rhodes who was a defendant in the same > court May Term 1821 because the goods of William Rhodes (Sr.?) were > sold at auction in 1819. > > > > I am including the newspaper extracts in hopes if there are others > that you or the list will fill in the holes. > > > > 15 Aug 1803 Washington Federalist > > Subscribers to the National University and Monument to Washington > > William Rhodes, Washington > > > > 13 Jun 1804 Washington Federalist > > William H. Rhodes, Washington > > Hillery Rhodes, Washington > > Sc_eries Rhodes, Washington > > William Rhodes, Washington > > > > 30 Nov 1804 National Intelligencer > > Washington Tontine > > Persons desirous of an interest in the Institution, will please to > take Notice, that books will be opened at Rhodes’s Hotel in The City > of Washington, at 11 o’Clock on Saturday the 1^st day of December, for > receiving subscriptions of shares to the amount of 45,000 > Dollars.—Arrangement having been made at others for the residue of the > Stock. > > Ben Stoddert > > --November 20^th , 1804 > > > > [Notes: capital to be invested in land, tontine to be dissolved > January 1825; 4100 shares of $50 each, 1200 lots principally between > Georgetown and the City of Washington, the lots to be sold and the > proceeds to be invested, after 1807 interest of investments to be > divided semi-annually amongst stockholders (and/or to those on whose > lives the stock was fixed) proportionally. Who were the survivors?] > > > > 8 Jul 1805 National Intelligencer > > Subscriptions towards endowing a Permanent Institution for the > Education of Youth in the City of Washington, published for the > information of the electors Trustees by the Committee appointed to > collect subscriptions…Some subscribed > > William Rhodes $10 > > [Is this the same vellum investigated on History Detectives (PBS), > Season 5, 2007, Episode 3, Jefferson Pledge, Charlottesville, VA and > Washington D.C.?] > > > > 11 Jan 1806 Washington Federalist > > Washington City > > Indian King Tavern—The subscriber has rented that Large and Commodious > House formerly occupied by Mr. Wm. Rhodes, near the Treasury > Department, on F. Street. > > > > He respectfully informs his friends and the public in general, that he > will use his utmost endeavors to have at all times the best > Accommodations for Travellers and Boarders, by the Day, Week, Month > and Year, > > Joseph M. Semmes. > > November 13, 1805 > > [Note: Mary Ann Fenwick advertised this three-story house for rent] > > > > I forgot to include, but you probably already know that a Hillary was > on the Marion County tax list in 1842 and 1843 and that neither were > taxed on land. > > > > Do you have Hillary’s military records? Is he the same who applied > for admittance to West Point in 1818? What about Henry H. Rhodes of > Washington D.C. who attended Norwich Academy 1823-1825? Is he the > same one who married Harriet Plant 1 Feb 1848, Washington D.C.? > > > > The letter of Mother Rhodes poses some questions and answers others. > It reminds me of family letters and family oral history of my mother’s > grandmother. She was the granddaughter of Robert Rhodes who was the > grandson of Abraham. > > > > Mom always knew that Grandma was from Louisville, Kentucky. That’s > what is in her obituary. Maybe she was. She was baptized, though, at > Holy Cross in Marion County, Kentucky. She left Kentucky by the time > she was 4 years old, grew up in Kansas, got married in St. Louis and > lived the bulk of her life in Colorado. We spent a long time looking > for Grandma closer to Louisville. > > > > If it hadn’t been for a letter from Grandma’s Uncle John postmarked > Daviess County the pieces would have never fallen into place. Another > letter from Daviess County, dated 1863, is from Sarah Rhodes. In it > she mentions a Thelma Rhodes and Thelma’s family. Sarah is Grandma’s > cousin. Where she fits is a part of the puzzle we haven’t been able > to solve. Thelma is a complete mystery. She must have been > important, Grandma named her first daughter Thelma. > > > > As you say, you have been working on the Rhodes for a long time. > There is much more to them meets the eye. > > > > Anything you and the list are willing to share is greatly appreciate > and gratefully acknowledged. > > > > Peg > > > In a message dated 10/27/2008 9:05:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > jking71@gmail.com writes: > > Peg .... > > I have been working on William and Hillary for some time now as > well as > Hillary's brother William. There really is no doubt that Hillary > H. is > the son of William (son of Abraham) and that he had a sibling > William. > But let me answer some of your questions. > > If there was a relationship between Benedict Fenwick and William > Rhodes > it was probably through William's first wife and mother of Hillary > and > William, Ann Simms (widow of Thomas Clark). There are a number of > references to Hillary and his brother William being in Washington > after > Benedict Rhodes is settled in Kentucky. One would be the listing > of the > chldren on the Washington Tontine and also on the subscriptions > for the > Washington memorial and college. > > With the exception of the one reference to Hillary being "from > Kentucky" > all of his service records and his burial certificate list his > birth as > in either Washington D.C. or the District of Columbia. (Personally I > believe he was actually born in Georgetown and not Washington but > either > way D.C. would be correct). His burial certificate, lists his date of > birth as 12 Dec 1801. I think I can explain the Kentucky reference. > > From the evidence I have it would appear Hillary's father died > sometime > in 1818. If other trees are to be believed (I still can't locate the > paperwork) he probably died in Nelson County, KY, possibly > visiting his > relatives. His wife Mildred Burch Rhodes (second wife) was > probably with > him which would explain the Mildred Rhodes who appears on the consent > for marriage for Robert Rhodes in 1818. It is the only Mildred I can > come up with for that consent. > > The children were probably traveling with their parents - we know > from > another letter of Mother Mary Rhodes that Hillary had indeed visited > Kentucky several times. He was at the Norwich Academy (their records) > before enlisting May 1920 as a Midshipman with the U.S. Navy. It > is at > about the time he was sent to Norwich for schooling that the KY > reference is made and from what I can see it would appear to me > that his > step-mother may have still been in Kentucky. > > She went back to Washington to settle her late husband's estate, > (sale > in 1819) and we can find her there for a number of years signing > various > documents including her mother's request for a pension from her > father's > service in both the Revolution and the War of 1812. A lawsuit > shows that > in 1821 Mildred endorsed a check made out to her late husband's > estate > in lieu of her other step-son William who had been made the > executor of > the estate. That lawsuit is the last reference made to William who I > cannot find ever mentioned in Washington D.C. again. > > We also know from a letter from Mother Mary Rhodes that Hillary > was her > godson and he spent most of his time in Washington D.C. as she makes > reference to the fact that surely it has changed greatly since she > has > been there. > > The fact that William who most place as the son of Benedict makes > great > pains to list his Washington D.C. birth, which by the way would > coincide > with the time frame of Hillary's brother, on his tombstone has always > been of great conjecture. But most people have pointed to the priests > description and the later land division as proof. However, I > believe the > priest may have been using the generic term "children" when > describing > the children living with Benedict - and the land division certainly > leaves doubt. > > The deed of partition reads - > > "William Rhodes and wife died several years ago in the County of > Marion > and State of Kentucky said and possessed of a tract of land of two > hundred and fifty five acres situated on Hardin's Creek in Marion > Co., > Ky, the same that was inherited by them of Benedict Rhodes in the > year > 1859." > > It doesn't say inherited from his father, it only says the land > was left > to him by Benedict......but it does go on to make the relationship of > William and his wife Harriett to their children very clear .... > > "Whereas the said William Rhodes and wife at their death left the > following named children, his heirs at law (to wit) B. C. Rhodes, > F. L. > Rhodes, Ellen A. Rhodes, Mary C. Rhodes, wife of Dr. N. Leake, > Harriett > E. Rhodes, wife of Austin Howard, William T. Rhodes and Emily V. > Rhodes > which are all the children left by the deceased at their death." > > Given that in the tax rolls for much of that land, Hillary is first > located on it next to Benedict - and then you find William next to > Benedict but no Hillary- it lends further credence as to a > relationship. > In following Hillary's naval postings, the only time he is to be > found > in Kentucky is when he is on leave from the Navy or during the time > period when he would have been studying for his Lieutenant's exam. > (In > that time period I have discovered leaves of two to three years > were not > uncommon). > > The more documents I find, the more I am convinced that William who > finally ended up in Kentucky was the son of William Rhodes of > Washington > D.C. and his first wife and the nephew of Benedict Rhodes. I am > becoming > more and more convinced that at least some of the children > attributed to > Benedict in the censuses were relatives and not his own children > or if > they were, that most of his own children died young. > > This is probably even more confusing, but I hope it helps explain > some > of my thinking. > > Jackie > > MOman254@aol.com wrote: > > Jackie, > > > > Your question about Benedict's children is one that has bothered > me as > > well. None of the printed histories name his children. How > could it > > be that a man whose physical characteristics/demeanor are > remembered, > > who had the only two benches in the church - one for himself and > one > > for his family - and who had the only carriage in the county at one > > time, has not been memorialized? > > > > The 1810 Washington County, Kentucky census implies that he had > 2 sons > > and 2 daughters under the age of 10. > > > > A letter written by Mother Mary in 1851 requests that one of her > > little nieces, Benedicta, accompany her to from Calvary Convent to > > Loretto (Loretto Annals of the Century, Anna C. Minogue, 1912, p. > > 88). Rev. JJ Pike's History of St. Charles Church mentions > Bennett's > > grandchildren - namely W.L.T. Rhodes, Ellen Rhodes, and Victoria > > Rhodes - in conjunction with the ownership of the Rev. A. > Deparque house. > > > > These names seem to coincide with those of the deed of division > > mentioning William's children. > > > > Bennett and a William are listed next to each other, with only > one or > > two exceptions, on the Marion County Tax lists 1834-1849. In the > > latter year William is charged with 4 children 5-15. > > > > Have you considered Hillary H. as one of Benedict's children? I > > dismissed him at first with the 1850 census showing he was born in > > Virginia. However, Hillary Rhodes, midshipman on a journey of 3 > years > > on the U.S. Constellation was listed as being from Kentucky (26 Jul > > 1820, American). If he was born 1802, perhaps he is Benedict's > oldest > > son (or second son). > > > > Would you please share what you have on William of D.C. What is > his > > relationship to Mary Ann Fenwick (probably the widow of Benedict)? > > Family or Landlord? > > > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/25/2008 11:17:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > lindareno@comcast.net writes: > > > > Jackie, > > > > Philip Medley, Jr. was b. 1781 and died in SMC on 8/11/1836 > > married Eleanor > > Neale, January 19, 1804. Eleanor Neale died in 1863 (she > had been > > married > > first to Benoni Neale, but her maiden name was Neale as well). > > > > They could have been the parents of Wilford. The will of Philip > > Medley > > below doesn't mention any sons, but he did have a son named > Charles. > > > > Will of Philip Medley, SMC, 8/3/1836-9/27/1836. Wife: Eleanora > > Medley, all > > of my personal estate during her life. Daughters: Ann Medley, > > Monica > > McNiell, Eleanora Medley, Mary Eliza Medley, and Martha Ann > > Medley, all of > > my personal estate after the death of my wife equally divided. > > Exec.: > > Wife, Eleanora Medley. Wit.: Leonard Neale, John F. McGerry, > > Charles > > Medley. (St. Mary's County, Maryland Wills 1836-1857 by > Linda Reno). > > > > Linda > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> > > To: "Linda Reno" <lindareno@comcast.net> > > Cc: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:31 AM > > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > > > > > > > Linda - > > > > > > I've always had him tentatively listed there but really > can find > > no reason > > > to put him as the their son - plus I have another problem with > > it, but > > > again I lack the definitive evidence. > > > > > > Wilford is said to have been born about 1809- 1810 based > on his > > census > > > records. (And the date of his first marriage in 1830 would > lend > > some > > > credence to that.) I have that John Phillip Medley was born > > about 1802 and > > > while that falls in the range of his siblings, it would > > certainly make > > > Wilford an improbable child.. The other thing tending to > make me > > believe > > > that Wilford probably belongs to one of the other Medleys > is the > > marriage > > > date of his purported grandparents in 1795. > > > > > > I haven't done as much work on this branch of the Medley > family > > as I > > > probably should have, but this generation has always > bothered me. > > > > > > As I have been working up the Rhodes line and documenting > them, > > I keep > > > finding problems with their associated lines. This is one > of them. > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > Linda Reno wrote: > > >> Hi Jackie, > > >> > > >>> From what I see on Ancestry.com, it's claimed that Wilford > > Medley was > > >>> the > > >> son of Philip Medley, Jr. and Eleanor Neale. Does that agree > > with your > > >> records? The will of Philip Medley, Jr. doesn't mention > a son > > named > > >> Wilford. > > >> > > >> Linda Reno > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" > > <jking71@gmail.com> > > >> To: "Maryland St. Mary's" <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:11 AM > > >> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > > >> > > >> > > >>> List - > > >>> > > >>> Over the years, a lot has been made of William Rhodes' claim > > to have > > >>> been born in Washington D.C. and its led many of us to > create > > a first > > >>> unknown wife for Bennett (Benedict) Rhodes to account > for the > > child > > >>> William. > > >>> > > >>> I've decided to delete the unknown wife and move William > to what I > > >>> believe for a number of reasons are his proper parents and > > that would be > > >>> William Rhodes of Washington D.C and Ann Simms, making > Bennett > > his > > >>> uncle. > > >>> > > >>> That leaves me with one problem - who ARE Benedict Rhodes > > children? I > > >>> can only prove one that survived childhood and that > would be Ann > > >>> Victoria who married Wilford Medley. I have read of another > > alleged > > >>> daughter - Nelly (probably Eleanor) who allegedly died > young. > > While > > >>> that is very probable given her mother's name of Eleanor - I > > can't prove > > >>> it. And according to the censuses there should be yet > another > > girl in > > >>> the family. > > >>> > > >>> There at one time should have also been at least another > > couple of male > > >>> children in the household. > > >>> > > >>> Did all of Bennet's children other than Ann die young or was > > he in the > > >>> habit of taking in the neighborhood and family waif's? > > >>> > > >>> I would appreciate any help with sorting Benedict's > family or > > extended > > >>> "family". > > >>> > > >>> Jackie > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the > > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. 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    11/02/2008 11:52:47
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes
    2. Jackie and List, Thank you for sharing your thinking and research on William, William and Hillary Rhodes. I haven't found a relationship between the Fenwicks and Rhodes. On page 134 in At Peace With All their Neighbors: Catholics and Catholicism in the National Capital, 1787-1860 is the following: " Then, in the summer of 1797, after President Washington silenced all arguments by declaring the government’s executive departments should be next to or near the President’s House rather than the Capitol, Bennett Fenwick quickly stepped into the picture. He bought the corner lot next to Hoban and Purcell ’s on 15th and F, which, as matters turned out, would be almost across the street from the projected Hadfield-Harbaugh Treasury Building. Here Fenwick built what was advertised as “a large and convenient three-story brick house.” Two years later William Rhodes purchased the Little Hotel from Hoban and Purcell and then bought or rented Fenwick’s adjoining brick house in 1801 to make up what was known as the Rhodes Hotel (later Tavern). Three or four years later Rhodes, who was soon to marry Sally Semmes at St. Patrick’s, leased the hotel to Joseph Semmes of Georgetown’s City Tavern while he went on the buy Lovell’s Hotel north of the President’s Square, originally another Hoban and Purcell property. Initially, all involved did very well. In the “city of magnificent distances,” in the city whose streets, squares and lots existed mainly on Ellicott’s map, they had chosen the right place. Rhodes Tavern quickly became early Washington’s unofficial city hall. And F Street east of the President’s House, as Hoban had forseen, proved to be the center of the city’s first and most fashionable “downtown” cluster." (William W. Warner, pub. Georgetown University Press, 1994) The mention of Hadfield fits nicely with the suit of William Rhodes v. George Hadfield (Circuit Court, District of Columbia, May Term 1825; 2 Cranch C.C. 566, 20 F.Cas. 653, 2 D.C. 566, No. 11,748 Case No. 11,748, 2 Cranch, C. C. 566_ [FN1]_ (http://creditcard.westlaw.com/search/default.wl#FN;F0011#FN;F0011) ) that identifies his father as William and the widow as Mildred. Presumably the defendant was George Hadfield, Architect to superintend the construction of on the Capitol (obituary, 13 Feb 1826, National Intelligencer). Could he be the same William Rhodes who was a defendant in the same court May Term 1821 because the goods of William Rhodes (Sr.?) were sold at auction in 1819. I am including the newspaper extracts in hopes if there are others that you or the list will fill in the holes. 15 Aug 1803 Washington Federalist Subscribers to the National University and Monument to Washington William Rhodes, Washington 13 Jun 1804 Washington Federalist William H. Rhodes, Washington Hillery Rhodes, Washington Sc_eries Rhodes, Washington William Rhodes, Washington 30 Nov 1804 National Intelligencer Washington Tontine Persons desirous of an interest in the Institution, will please to take Notice, that books will be opened at Rhodes’s Hotel in The City of Washington, at 11 o’Clock on Saturday the 1st day of December, for receiving subscriptions of shares to the amount of 45,000 Dollars.—Arrangement having been made at others for the residue of the Stock. Ben Stoddert --November 20th, 1804 [Notes: capital to be invested in land, tontine to be dissolved January 1825; 4100 shares of $50 each, 1200 lots principally between Georgetown and the City of Washington, the lots to be sold and the proceeds to be invested, after 1807 interest of investments to be divided semi-annually amongst stockholders (and/or to those on whose lives the stock was fixed) proportionally. Who were the survivors?] 8 Jul 1805 National Intelligencer Subscriptions towards endowing a Permanent Institution for the Education of Youth in the City of Washington, published for the information of the electors Trustees by the Committee appointed to collect subscriptions…Some subscribed William Rhodes $10 [Is this the same vellum investigated on History Detectives (PBS), Season 5, 2007, Episode 3, Jefferson Pledge, Charlottesville, VA and Washington D.C.?] 11 Jan 1806 Washington Federalist Washington City Indian King Tavern—The subscriber has rented that Large and Commodious House formerly occupied by Mr. Wm. Rhodes, near the Treasury Department, on F. Street. He respectfully informs his friends and the public in general, that he will use his utmost endeavors to have at all times the best Accommodations for Travellers and Boarders, by the Day, Week, Month and Year, Joseph M. Semmes. November 13, 1805 [Note: Mary Ann Fenwick advertised this three-story house for rent] I forgot to include, but you probably already know that a Hillary was on the Marion County tax list in 1842 and 1843 and that neither were taxed on land. Do you have Hillary’s military records? Is he the same who applied for admittance to West Point in 1818? What about Henry H. Rhodes of Washington D.C. who attended Norwich Academy 1823-1825? Is he the same one who married Harriet Plant 1 Feb 1848, Washington D.C.? The letter of Mother Rhodes poses some questions and answers others. It reminds me of family letters and family oral history of my mother’s grandmother. She was the granddaughter of Robert Rhodes who was the grandson of Abraham. Mom always knew that Grandma was from Louisville, Kentucky. That’s what is in her obituary. Maybe she was. She was baptized, though, at Holy Cross in Marion County, Kentucky. She left Kentucky by the time she was 4 years old, grew up in Kansas, got married in St. Louis and lived the bulk of her life in Colorado. We spent a long time looking for Grandma closer to Louisville. If it hadn’t been for a letter from Grandma’s Uncle John postmarked Daviess County the pieces would have never fallen into place. Another letter from Daviess County, dated 1863, is from Sarah Rhodes. In it she mentions a Thelma Rhodes and Thelma’s family. Sarah is Grandma’s cousin. Where she fits is a part of the puzzle we haven’t been able to solve. Thelma is a complete mystery. She must have been important, Grandma named her first daughter Thelma. As you say, you have been working on the Rhodes for a long time. There is much more to them meets the eye. Anything you and the list are willing to share is greatly appreciate and gratefully acknowledged. Peg In a message dated 10/27/2008 9:05:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jking71@gmail.com writes: Peg .... I have been working on William and Hillary for some time now as well as Hillary's brother William. There really is no doubt that Hillary H. is the son of William (son of Abraham) and that he had a sibling William. But let me answer some of your questions. If there was a relationship between Benedict Fenwick and William Rhodes it was probably through William's first wife and mother of Hillary and William, Ann Simms (widow of Thomas Clark). There are a number of references to Hillary and his brother William being in Washington after Benedict Rhodes is settled in Kentucky. One would be the listing of the chldren on the Washington Tontine and also on the subscriptions for the Washington memorial and college. With the exception of the one reference to Hillary being "from Kentucky" all of his service records and his burial certificate list his birth as in either Washington D.C. or the District of Columbia. (Personally I believe he was actually born in Georgetown and not Washington but either way D.C. would be correct). His burial certificate, lists his date of birth as 12 Dec 1801. I think I can explain the Kentucky reference. >From the evidence I have it would appear Hillary's father died sometime in 1818. If other trees are to be believed (I still can't locate the paperwork) he probably died in Nelson County, KY, possibly visiting his relatives. His wife Mildred Burch Rhodes (second wife) was probably with him which would explain the Mildred Rhodes who appears on the consent for marriage for Robert Rhodes in 1818. It is the only Mildred I can come up with for that consent. The children were probably traveling with their parents - we know from another letter of Mother Mary Rhodes that Hillary had indeed visited Kentucky several times. He was at the Norwich Academy (their records) before enlisting May 1920 as a Midshipman with the U.S. Navy. It is at about the time he was sent to Norwich for schooling that the KY reference is made and from what I can see it would appear to me that his step-mother may have still been in Kentucky. She went back to Washington to settle her late husband's estate, (sale in 1819) and we can find her there for a number of years signing various documents including her mother's request for a pension from her father's service in both the Revolution and the War of 1812. A lawsuit shows that in 1821 Mildred endorsed a check made out to her late husband's estate in lieu of her other step-son William who had been made the executor of the estate. That lawsuit is the last reference made to William who I cannot find ever mentioned in Washington D.C. again. We also know from a letter from Mother Mary Rhodes that Hillary was her godson and he spent most of his time in Washington D.C. as she makes reference to the fact that surely it has changed greatly since she has been there. The fact that William who most place as the son of Benedict makes great pains to list his Washington D.C. birth, which by the way would coincide with the time frame of Hillary's brother, on his tombstone has always been of great conjecture. But most people have pointed to the priests description and the later land division as proof. However, I believe the priest may have been using the generic term "children" when describing the children living with Benedict - and the land division certainly leaves doubt. The deed of partition reads - "William Rhodes and wife died several years ago in the County of Marion and State of Kentucky said and possessed of a tract of land of two hundred and fifty five acres situated on Hardin's Creek in Marion Co., Ky, the same that was inherited by them of Benedict Rhodes in the year 1859." It doesn't say inherited from his father, it only says the land was left to him by Benedict......but it does go on to make the relationship of William and his wife Harriett to their children very clear .... "Whereas the said William Rhodes and wife at their death left the following named children, his heirs at law (to wit) B. C. Rhodes, F. L. Rhodes, Ellen A. Rhodes, Mary C. Rhodes, wife of Dr. N. Leake, Harriett E. Rhodes, wife of Austin Howard, William T. Rhodes and Emily V. Rhodes which are all the children left by the deceased at their death." Given that in the tax rolls for much of that land, Hillary is first located on it next to Benedict - and then you find William next to Benedict but no Hillary- it lends further credence as to a relationship. In following Hillary's naval postings, the only time he is to be found in Kentucky is when he is on leave from the Navy or during the time period when he would have been studying for his Lieutenant's exam. (In that time period I have discovered leaves of two to three years were not uncommon). The more documents I find, the more I am convinced that William who finally ended up in Kentucky was the son of William Rhodes of Washington D.C. and his first wife and the nephew of Benedict Rhodes. I am becoming more and more convinced that at least some of the children attributed to Benedict in the censuses were relatives and not his own children or if they were, that most of his own children died young. This is probably even more confusing, but I hope it helps explain some of my thinking. Jackie MOman254@aol.com wrote: > Jackie, > > Your question about Benedict's children is one that has bothered me as > well. None of the printed histories name his children. How could it > be that a man whose physical characteristics/demeanor are remembered, > who had the only two benches in the church - one for himself and one > for his family - and who had the only carriage in the county at one > time, has not been memorialized? > > The 1810 Washington County, Kentucky census implies that he had 2 sons > and 2 daughters under the age of 10. > > A letter written by Mother Mary in 1851 requests that one of her > little nieces, Benedicta, accompany her to from Calvary Convent to > Loretto (Loretto Annals of the Century, Anna C. Minogue, 1912, p. > 88). Rev. JJ Pike's History of St. Charles Church mentions Bennett's > grandchildren - namely W.L.T. Rhodes, Ellen Rhodes, and Victoria > Rhodes - in conjunction with the ownership of the Rev. A. Deparque house. > > These names seem to coincide with those of the deed of division > mentioning William's children. > > Bennett and a William are listed next to each other, with only one or > two exceptions, on the Marion County Tax lists 1834-1849. In the > latter year William is charged with 4 children 5-15. > > Have you considered Hillary H. as one of Benedict's children? I > dismissed him at first with the 1850 census showing he was born in > Virginia. However, Hillary Rhodes, midshipman on a journey of 3 years > on the U.S. Constellation was listed as being from Kentucky (26 Jul > 1820, American). If he was born 1802, perhaps he is Benedict's oldest > son (or second son). > > Would you please share what you have on William of D.C. What is his > relationship to Mary Ann Fenwick (probably the widow of Benedict)? > Family or Landlord? > > Peg > > > > > In a message dated 10/25/2008 11:17:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > lindareno@comcast.net writes: > > Jackie, > > Philip Medley, Jr. was b. 1781 and died in SMC on 8/11/1836 > married Eleanor > Neale, January 19, 1804. Eleanor Neale died in 1863 (she had been > married > first to Benoni Neale, but her maiden name was Neale as well). > > They could have been the parents of Wilford. The will of Philip > Medley > below doesn't mention any sons, but he did have a son named Charles. > > Will of Philip Medley, SMC, 8/3/1836-9/27/1836. Wife: Eleanora > Medley, all > of my personal estate during her life. Daughters: Ann Medley, > Monica > McNiell, Eleanora Medley, Mary Eliza Medley, and Martha Ann > Medley, all of > my personal estate after the death of my wife equally divided. > Exec.: > Wife, Eleanora Medley. Wit.: Leonard Neale, John F. McGerry, > Charles > Medley. (St. Mary's County, Maryland Wills 1836-1857 by Linda Reno). > > Linda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> > To: "Linda Reno" <lindareno@comcast.net> > Cc: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > > > > Linda - > > > > I've always had him tentatively listed there but really can find > no reason > > to put him as the their son - plus I have another problem with > it, but > > again I lack the definitive evidence. > > > > Wilford is said to have been born about 1809- 1810 based on his > census > > records. (And the date of his first marriage in 1830 would lend > some > > credence to that.) I have that John Phillip Medley was born > about 1802 and > > while that falls in the range of his siblings, it would > certainly make > > Wilford an improbable child.. The other thing tending to make me > believe > > that Wilford probably belongs to one of the other Medleys is the > marriage > > date of his purported grandparents in 1795. > > > > I haven't done as much work on this branch of the Medley family > as I > > probably should have, but this generation has always bothered me. > > > > As I have been working up the Rhodes line and documenting them, > I keep > > finding problems with their associated lines. This is one of them. > > > > Jackie > > > > Linda Reno wrote: > >> Hi Jackie, > >> > >>> From what I see on Ancestry.com, it's claimed that Wilford > Medley was > >>> the > >> son of Philip Medley, Jr. and Eleanor Neale. Does that agree > with your > >> records? The will of Philip Medley, Jr. doesn't mention a son > named > >> Wilford. > >> > >> Linda Reno > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" > <jking71@gmail.com> > >> To: "Maryland St. Mary's" <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:11 AM > >> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > >> > >> > >>> List - > >>> > >>> Over the years, a lot has been made of William Rhodes' claim > to have > >>> been born in Washington D.C. and its led many of us to create > a first > >>> unknown wife for Bennett (Benedict) Rhodes to account for the > child > >>> William. > >>> > >>> I've decided to delete the unknown wife and move William to what I > >>> believe for a number of reasons are his proper parents and > that would be > >>> William Rhodes of Washington D.C and Ann Simms, making Bennett > his > >>> uncle. > >>> > >>> That leaves me with one problem - who ARE Benedict Rhodes > children? I > >>> can only prove one that survived childhood and that would be Ann > >>> Victoria who married Wilford Medley. I have read of another > alleged > >>> daughter - Nelly (probably Eleanor) who allegedly died young. > While > >>> that is very probable given her mother's name of Eleanor - I > can't prove > >>> it. And according to the censuses there should be yet another > girl in > >>> the family. > >>> > >>> There at one time should have also been at least another > couple of male > >>> children in the household. > >>> > >>> Did all of Bennet's children other than Ann die young or was > he in the > >>> habit of taking in the neighborhood and family waif's? > >>> > >>> I would appreciate any help with sorting Benedict's family or > extended > >>> "family". > >>> > >>> Jackie > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. 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    11/02/2008 09:21:04
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    11/02/2008 04:00:17
    1. [MDSTMARY] Henry Abell & Bennet and Elizabeth Attaway Abell
    2. SHIRLEY MOLLER
    3. http://library.uncg.edu/slavery/details.aspx?pid=17469 Petition 20982906 Details Location: St. Mary's, Maryland Salutation: To the honorable, the Judges of Saint Marys County Court acting as a Court of Equity Filing Court and Date: Equity, 1829-March-10 Ending Court and Date: Equity, 1835-March-11 General Petition Information Abstract: On 20 August 1822, Henry Abell, "being young and involved in debt and confiding in the better Judgment and management" of his brother Bennet Abell sold 12 slaves to him for $2,500. Henry explains that the two agreed that as soon as his debts were paid by the hire or sale of the slaves, Bennet would return the rest of the slaves to him. On 1 November 1828, Bennet died, leaving a widow Elizabeth Attaway Abell and six minor children. Henry says that Bennet acknowledged shortly before his death that the debts were paid and the slaves belonged to Henry, but Bennet's widow and administratrix will not return the slaves. Henry asks the court to subpoena her and the children, to annul the bill of sale, and to return the slaves to him. Three of the slaves in the original agreement have, over the course of the six-year-span, been sold to persons unnamed. Result: granted # of Petition Pages: 4 Related Documents: Copy of Bill and Bill of Sale, 20 August 1822; Decree, 11 March 1835 Pages of Related Documents: 8 People Associated with Petition 20982906 Slaves: 12 Free Persons of Color: 0 Defendants: 7 Petitioners: 1 Other People: 3 Citation Information Repository: Maryland State Archives, Annapolis, Maryland a.. Schweninger Collection b.. Document Number 73, 170 c.. Volume: 4239-27 d.. Page: 1 e.. Microfilm: M 11026 Processing Information Transcribed?: No Book Edition?: No Record Created: 6/9/2000 Record Final Edited: 2/22/2002 Record Last Updated on: 12/18/2006 10:07:00 AM

    10/29/2008 03:25:37
    1. [MDSTMARY] James Reeder and Susannah Locke
    2. SHIRLEY MOLLER
    3. http://library.uncg.edu/slavery/details.aspx?pid=17483 Petition 20983108 Details Location: St. Mary's, Maryland Salutation: To the Honorable John R. Plater Esq. associate Judge of the First Judicial District (PLATER, John R.) Filing Court and Date: Equity, 1831-September-19 Ending Court and Date: No Ending Court Specified General Petition Information Abstract: James Reeder petitions that when he married Susannah Locke, he became entitled to six slaves she had inherited from her father, Jesse Locke. Susannah, advised "by certain evil disposed persons," petitioned the General Assembly of Maryland and was granted a divorce from James Reeder "a mensa et thoro," whereby he was "divested" of the property he had acquired by marriage. Reeder is contesting the divorce as unconstitutional in the St. Mary's County Court. He believes that Susannah is planning to sell the slaves via her agent, William Locke, who has already taken possession of the slaves in question. Reeder asks the court to issue an injunction to prevent any sale until his case is settled and to subpoena Susannah and Locke. Result: No recorded result # of Petition Pages: 3 Related Documents: Disclaimer, William B. Locke, 19 November 1831 Pages of Related Documents: 2 People Associated with Petition 20983108 Slaves: 7 Free Persons of Color: 0 Defendants: 2 Petitioners: 1 Other People: 0 Citation Information Repository: Maryland State Archives, Annapolis, Maryland a.. Schweninger Collection b.. Document Number 68 c.. Volume: 4239-27 d.. Page: 6 e.. Microfilm: M 11026 Processing Information Transcribed?: No Book Edition?: No Record Created: 6/12/2000 Record Final Edited: 2/26/2002 Record Last Updated on: 12/20/2006 8:52:00 AM

    10/29/2008 03:22:12
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes
    2. Jackie, Your question about Benedict's children is one that has bothered me as well. None of the printed histories name his children. How could it be that a man whose physical characteristics/demeanor are remembered, who had the only two benches in the church - one for himself and one for his family - and who had the only carriage in the county at one time, has not been memorialized? The 1810 Washington County, Kentucky census implies that he had 2 sons and 2 daughters under the age of 10. A letter written by Mother Mary in 1851 requests that one of her little nieces, Benedicta, accompany her to from Calvary Convent to Loretto (Loretto Annals of the Century, Anna C. Minogue, 1912, p. 88). Rev. JJ Pike's History of St. Charles Church mentions Bennett's grandchildren - namely W.L.T. Rhodes, Ellen Rhodes, and Victoria Rhodes - in conjunction with the ownership of the Rev. A. Deparque house. These names seem to coincide with those of the deed of division mentioning William's children. Bennett and a William are listed next to each other, with only one or two exceptions, on the Marion County Tax lists 1834-1849. In the latter year William is charged with 4 children 5-15. Have you considered Hillary H. as one of Benedict's children? I dismissed him at first with the 1850 census showing he was born in Virginia. However, Hillary Rhodes, midshipman on a journey of 3 years on the U.S. Constellation was listed as being from Kentucky (26 Jul 1820, American). If he was born 1802, perhaps he is Benedict's oldest son (or second son). Would you please share what you have on William of D.C. What is his relationship to Mary Ann Fenwick (probably the widow of Benedict)? Family or Landlord? Peg In a message dated 10/25/2008 11:17:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lindareno@comcast.net writes: Jackie, Philip Medley, Jr. was b. 1781 and died in SMC on 8/11/1836 married Eleanor Neale, January 19, 1804. Eleanor Neale died in 1863 (she had been married first to Benoni Neale, but her maiden name was Neale as well). They could have been the parents of Wilford. The will of Philip Medley below doesn't mention any sons, but he did have a son named Charles. Will of Philip Medley, SMC, 8/3/1836-9/27/1836. Wife: Eleanora Medley, all of my personal estate during her life. Daughters: Ann Medley, Monica McNiell, Eleanora Medley, Mary Eliza Medley, and Martha Ann Medley, all of my personal estate after the death of my wife equally divided. Exec.: Wife, Eleanora Medley. Wit.: Leonard Neale, John F. McGerry, Charles Medley. (St. Mary's County, Maryland Wills 1836-1857 by Linda Reno). Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> To: "Linda Reno" <lindareno@comcast.net> Cc: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > Linda - > > I've always had him tentatively listed there but really can find no reason > to put him as the their son - plus I have another problem with it, but > again I lack the definitive evidence. > > Wilford is said to have been born about 1809- 1810 based on his census > records. (And the date of his first marriage in 1830 would lend some > credence to that.) I have that John Phillip Medley was born about 1802 and > while that falls in the range of his siblings, it would certainly make > Wilford an improbable child.. The other thing tending to make me believe > that Wilford probably belongs to one of the other Medleys is the marriage > date of his purported grandparents in 1795. > > I haven't done as much work on this branch of the Medley family as I > probably should have, but this generation has always bothered me. > > As I have been working up the Rhodes line and documenting them, I keep > finding problems with their associated lines. This is one of them. > > Jackie > > Linda Reno wrote: >> Hi Jackie, >> >>> From what I see on Ancestry.com, it's claimed that Wilford Medley was >>> the >> son of Philip Medley, Jr. and Eleanor Neale. Does that agree with your >> records? The will of Philip Medley, Jr. doesn't mention a son named >> Wilford. >> >> Linda Reno >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> >> To: "Maryland St. Mary's" <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:11 AM >> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes >> >> >>> List - >>> >>> Over the years, a lot has been made of William Rhodes' claim to have >>> been born in Washington D.C. and its led many of us to create a first >>> unknown wife for Bennett (Benedict) Rhodes to account for the child >>> William. >>> >>> I've decided to delete the unknown wife and move William to what I >>> believe for a number of reasons are his proper parents and that would be >>> William Rhodes of Washington D.C and Ann Simms, making Bennett his >>> uncle. >>> >>> That leaves me with one problem - who ARE Benedict Rhodes children? I >>> can only prove one that survived childhood and that would be Ann >>> Victoria who married Wilford Medley. I have read of another alleged >>> daughter - Nelly (probably Eleanor) who allegedly died young. While >>> that is very probable given her mother's name of Eleanor - I can't prove >>> it. 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    10/27/2008 03:19:29
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes
    2. Jackie King
    3. Peg .... I have been working on William and Hillary for some time now as well as Hillary's brother William. There really is no doubt that Hillary H. is the son of William (son of Abraham) and that he had a sibling William. But let me answer some of your questions. If there was a relationship between Benedict Fenwick and William Rhodes it was probably through William's first wife and mother of Hillary and William, Ann Simms (widow of Thomas Clark). There are a number of references to Hillary and his brother William being in Washington after Benedict Rhodes is settled in Kentucky. One would be the listing of the chldren on the Washington Tontine and also on the subscriptions for the Washington memorial and college. With the exception of the one reference to Hillary being "from Kentucky" all of his service records and his burial certificate list his birth as in either Washington D.C. or the District of Columbia. (Personally I believe he was actually born in Georgetown and not Washington but either way D.C. would be correct). His burial certificate, lists his date of birth as 12 Dec 1801. I think I can explain the Kentucky reference. From the evidence I have it would appear Hillary's father died sometime in 1818. If other trees are to be believed (I still can't locate the paperwork) he probably died in Nelson County, KY, possibly visiting his relatives. His wife Mildred Burch Rhodes (second wife) was probably with him which would explain the Mildred Rhodes who appears on the consent for marriage for Robert Rhodes in 1818. It is the only Mildred I can come up with for that consent. The children were probably traveling with their parents - we know from another letter of Mother Mary Rhodes that Hillary had indeed visited Kentucky several times. He was at the Norwich Academy (their records) before enlisting May 1920 as a Midshipman with the U.S. Navy. It is at about the time he was sent to Norwich for schooling that the KY reference is made and from what I can see it would appear to me that his step-mother may have still been in Kentucky. She went back to Washington to settle her late husband's estate, (sale in 1819) and we can find her there for a number of years signing various documents including her mother's request for a pension from her father's service in both the Revolution and the War of 1812. A lawsuit shows that in 1821 Mildred endorsed a check made out to her late husband's estate in lieu of her other step-son William who had been made the executor of the estate. That lawsuit is the last reference made to William who I cannot find ever mentioned in Washington D.C. again. We also know from a letter from Mother Mary Rhodes that Hillary was her godson and he spent most of his time in Washington D.C. as she makes reference to the fact that surely it has changed greatly since she has been there. The fact that William who most place as the son of Benedict makes great pains to list his Washington D.C. birth, which by the way would coincide with the time frame of Hillary's brother, on his tombstone has always been of great conjecture. But most people have pointed to the priests description and the later land division as proof. However, I believe the priest may have been using the generic term "children" when describing the children living with Benedict - and the land division certainly leaves doubt. The deed of partition reads - "William Rhodes and wife died several years ago in the County of Marion and State of Kentucky said and possessed of a tract of land of two hundred and fifty five acres situated on Hardin's Creek in Marion Co., Ky, the same that was inherited by them of Benedict Rhodes in the year 1859." It doesn't say inherited from his father, it only says the land was left to him by Benedict......but it does go on to make the relationship of William and his wife Harriett to their children very clear .... "Whereas the said William Rhodes and wife at their death left the following named children, his heirs at law (to wit) B. C. Rhodes, F. L. Rhodes, Ellen A. Rhodes, Mary C. Rhodes, wife of Dr. N. Leake, Harriett E. Rhodes, wife of Austin Howard, William T. Rhodes and Emily V. Rhodes which are all the children left by the deceased at their death." Given that in the tax rolls for much of that land, Hillary is first located on it next to Benedict - and then you find William next to Benedict but no Hillary- it lends further credence as to a relationship. In following Hillary's naval postings, the only time he is to be found in Kentucky is when he is on leave from the Navy or during the time period when he would have been studying for his Lieutenant's exam. (In that time period I have discovered leaves of two to three years were not uncommon). The more documents I find, the more I am convinced that William who finally ended up in Kentucky was the son of William Rhodes of Washington D.C. and his first wife and the nephew of Benedict Rhodes. I am becoming more and more convinced that at least some of the children attributed to Benedict in the censuses were relatives and not his own children or if they were, that most of his own children died young. This is probably even more confusing, but I hope it helps explain some of my thinking. Jackie MOman254@aol.com wrote: > Jackie, > > Your question about Benedict's children is one that has bothered me as > well. None of the printed histories name his children. How could it > be that a man whose physical characteristics/demeanor are remembered, > who had the only two benches in the church - one for himself and one > for his family - and who had the only carriage in the county at one > time, has not been memorialized? > > The 1810 Washington County, Kentucky census implies that he had 2 sons > and 2 daughters under the age of 10. > > A letter written by Mother Mary in 1851 requests that one of her > little nieces, Benedicta, accompany her to from Calvary Convent to > Loretto (Loretto Annals of the Century, Anna C. Minogue, 1912, p. > 88). Rev. JJ Pike's History of St. Charles Church mentions Bennett's > grandchildren - namely W.L.T. Rhodes, Ellen Rhodes, and Victoria > Rhodes - in conjunction with the ownership of the Rev. A. Deparque house. > > These names seem to coincide with those of the deed of division > mentioning William's children. > > Bennett and a William are listed next to each other, with only one or > two exceptions, on the Marion County Tax lists 1834-1849. In the > latter year William is charged with 4 children 5-15. > > Have you considered Hillary H. as one of Benedict's children? I > dismissed him at first with the 1850 census showing he was born in > Virginia. However, Hillary Rhodes, midshipman on a journey of 3 years > on the U.S. Constellation was listed as being from Kentucky (26 Jul > 1820, American). If he was born 1802, perhaps he is Benedict's oldest > son (or second son). > > Would you please share what you have on William of D.C. What is his > relationship to Mary Ann Fenwick (probably the widow of Benedict)? > Family or Landlord? > > Peg > > > > > In a message dated 10/25/2008 11:17:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > lindareno@comcast.net writes: > > Jackie, > > Philip Medley, Jr. was b. 1781 and died in SMC on 8/11/1836 > married Eleanor > Neale, January 19, 1804. Eleanor Neale died in 1863 (she had been > married > first to Benoni Neale, but her maiden name was Neale as well). > > They could have been the parents of Wilford. The will of Philip > Medley > below doesn't mention any sons, but he did have a son named Charles. > > Will of Philip Medley, SMC, 8/3/1836-9/27/1836. Wife: Eleanora > Medley, all > of my personal estate during her life. Daughters: Ann Medley, > Monica > McNiell, Eleanora Medley, Mary Eliza Medley, and Martha Ann > Medley, all of > my personal estate after the death of my wife equally divided. > Exec.: > Wife, Eleanora Medley. Wit.: Leonard Neale, John F. McGerry, > Charles > Medley. (St. Mary's County, Maryland Wills 1836-1857 by Linda Reno). > > Linda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> > To: "Linda Reno" <lindareno@comcast.net> > Cc: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > > > > Linda - > > > > I've always had him tentatively listed there but really can find > no reason > > to put him as the their son - plus I have another problem with > it, but > > again I lack the definitive evidence. > > > > Wilford is said to have been born about 1809- 1810 based on his > census > > records. (And the date of his first marriage in 1830 would lend > some > > credence to that.) I have that John Phillip Medley was born > about 1802 and > > while that falls in the range of his siblings, it would > certainly make > > Wilford an improbable child.. The other thing tending to make me > believe > > that Wilford probably belongs to one of the other Medleys is the > marriage > > date of his purported grandparents in 1795. > > > > I haven't done as much work on this branch of the Medley family > as I > > probably should have, but this generation has always bothered me. > > > > As I have been working up the Rhodes line and documenting them, > I keep > > finding problems with their associated lines. This is one of them. > > > > Jackie > > > > Linda Reno wrote: > >> Hi Jackie, > >> > >>> From what I see on Ancestry.com, it's claimed that Wilford > Medley was > >>> the > >> son of Philip Medley, Jr. and Eleanor Neale. Does that agree > with your > >> records? The will of Philip Medley, Jr. doesn't mention a son > named > >> Wilford. > >> > >> Linda Reno > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" > <jking71@gmail.com> > >> To: "Maryland St. Mary's" <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:11 AM > >> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > >> > >> > >>> List - > >>> > >>> Over the years, a lot has been made of William Rhodes' claim > to have > >>> been born in Washington D.C. and its led many of us to create > a first > >>> unknown wife for Bennett (Benedict) Rhodes to account for the > child > >>> William. > >>> > >>> I've decided to delete the unknown wife and move William to what I > >>> believe for a number of reasons are his proper parents and > that would be > >>> William Rhodes of Washington D.C and Ann Simms, making Bennett > his > >>> uncle. > >>> > >>> That leaves me with one problem - who ARE Benedict Rhodes > children? I > >>> can only prove one that survived childhood and that would be Ann > >>> Victoria who married Wilford Medley. I have read of another > alleged > >>> daughter - Nelly (probably Eleanor) who allegedly died young. > While > >>> that is very probable given her mother's name of Eleanor - I > can't prove > >>> it. And according to the censuses there should be yet another > girl in > >>> the family. > >>> > >>> There at one time should have also been at least another > couple of male > >>> children in the household. > >>> > >>> Did all of Bennet's children other than Ann die young or was > he in the > >>> habit of taking in the neighborhood and family waif's? > >>> > >>> I would appreciate any help with sorting Benedict's family or > extended > >>> "family". > >>> > >>> Jackie > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    10/27/2008 03:14:54
    1. [MDSTMARY] William and Martha Eltonhead Lineage Revision In England
    2. marianne dillow
    3. I posted previously on the Eltonhead line as my 9th great grandparents are Martha Eltonhead that married Edwin Conway. She is a sister to William Eltonhead that came to Maryland. I made an error on my previous posting. Edward Sutton did not marry Theodosia Harrington... wrong Edward Sutton. It should be Edward Sutton and Anne Stanley. I have been in touch with Douglas Richardson who wrote "Plantagenet Ancestry" 2004 and "Magna Carta Ancestry" 2005. I am buying "Plantagenet Ancestry" 2004 but haven't received the book in the mail as of today. The Eltonhead line goes back to Henry II, King of England. Doug Richardson provided me with the following lineage as he has proven this line since he wrote these two books and part of the lineage is not in the books. Here is Douglas Richardson's work and my line and others who descend from the Eltonhead line: The basic royal line goes as follows: HENRY II, King of England, by a mistress, IDA DE TONY. WILLIAM LONGESPÉE, Knt., Earl of Salisbury, married ELA OF SALISBURY. STEPHEN LONGESPÉE, Knt., of King’s Sutton, Northamptonshire, married EMELINE DE RIDELISFORD. ELA LONGESPÉE, married ROGER LA ZOUCHE, Knt., of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire. ALAN LA ZOUCHE, Knt., Lord Zouche, married ELEANOR DE SEGRAVE. MAUD LA ZOUCHE, married ROBERT DE HOLAND, Knt., 1st Lord Holand. MAUD DE HOLAND, married THOMAS DE SWINNERTON, Knt., 3rd Lord Swinnerton. ROBERT DE SWINNERTON, Knt., 4th Lord Swinnerton, married ELIZABETH DE BEKE. MAUD SWINNERTON, married JOHN SAVAGE, Knt., of Clifton, Cheshire. MARY SAVAGE, married (as his 1st wife) WILLIAM STANLEY, Esq., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire. WILLIAM STANLEY, Esq., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, Stanley, married ALICE HOGHTON (or HOUGHTON). WILLIAM STANLEY, Knt., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, married AGNES GROSVENOR. WILLIAM STANLEY, Knt., Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, married ANNE HARINGTON. PETER STANLEY, Esq., of Moor Hall (in Aughton), Lancashire, married CECILY TARLETON. ANNE STANLEY, married EDWARD SUTTON, Gent., of Knowsley (in Huyton), Lancashire and Hall House (in Rushton Spencer), Staffordshire. ANNE SUTTON, married RICHARD ELTONHEAD, Gent., of Eltonhead (in Prescot), Lancashire. MARTHA ELTONHEAD, married EDWIN CONWAY, Gent., of Northampton and Lancaster Counties, Virginia. Statement from Douglas Richardson to myself: "Since the publication of my two books, I've since found evidence which conclusively proves that Maud de Holand (Gen. 7 above) married Thomas de Swinnerton, Knt. I descend from Elizabeth de Holand, sister of Maud de Holand, so we are distantly related to one another through the Holand family. Marianne Dillow

    10/27/2008 01:32:54
    1. [MDSTMARY] The SMCGS will meet this Monday 27 Oct 08 - "The 1918 Influenza Pandemic" by: David Roberts and Bill Mitchell
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DWStein Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/4392/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello All, 7:00 PM Monday 27 Oct 2008 Garvey Senior Center, Leonardtown, Maryland "The 1918 Influenza Pandemic" by: David Roberts and Bill Mitchell "Tag, You're It; Members' Stories" Refreshment Theme: "Apples, Apples, and more Apples" - Bring Your Favorite Apples Dessert to share with your fellow genealogist! *Remember - The St. Mary's County Genealogical Society Follows The St. Mary's County Department of Aging when the county closes buildings.* DIRECTIONS Garvey Senior Center 41780 Baldridge Street, Leonardtown, MD 20650 >From Charles County: from Route 301, proceed south on Route 5. Route 5 becomes 235. Turn right onto Route 245 (Hollywood Leonardtown Road). Continue approximately 5 miles. Turn left onto Baldridge Street. The Governmental Complex is about a quarter of a mile down on the left hand side. Take a left into the second available entrance, after the entrance to Leonard Hall School. The Garvey Center is directly next to the parking lot, marked with a sign. >From Calvert County: Take Route 4 south over the Thomas Johnson Bridge from Solomon's Island to St. Mary's County. Go straight through the intersection for Routes 4 and 235; road becomes St. Andrew's Church Road. Follow to the end then merge right onto Route 5 north. Turn right onto Route 245. Turn right onto Baldridge St. Take a left into the second available entrance, after the entrance to Leonard Hall School. The Garvey Center is directly next to the parking lot, marked with a sign. Our SMCGS Cookbooks Have Arrived Judy Goddard will have these available at our monthly meetings Cost for each book is $14.00 Contact Judy to purchase yours today Judy can be reached at (240)925-9860 or by email at jagoddard at earthlink.net The SMCGS web site is currently down for maintenance. Warm Regards, Dennis W. Stein ourgenelines at gmail.com Leonardtown, Maryland Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/26/2008 07:01:28
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] [MDCHARLE] Alex. Middleton, his son, and Middleton farm in Pr. Georges County was......
    2. SHIRLEY MOLLER
    3. Hello David and Mary and All, More info from the Middleton Book... Shirley Middleton Moller MIDDLETONS and KINDRED FAMILIES OF SOUTHERN MARYLAND, D.B.LLOYD In 1870 Mrs. Middleton was living with her son, Dr. Alexius Middleton, on Middleton Road near Piscataway in Prince George's County. Alexander Middleton's Prince George's home site was west of Middleton Road, beyond the farm burying ground. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Middleton Edelen II" <k98@elmore.rr.com> To: <mdcharle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: [MDCHARLE] Alex. Middleton, his son,and Middleton farm in Pr. Georges County was...... > Hello Mur Hiltenbrand, Shirley and all, > Alexander Middleton ws my gr gr gr grandfather, his son Dr. > Alexius Llewellyn Middleton was my gr gr grandfather naturally. I am not > sure where Alexander lived, but Dr. Middleton owned 1600 acres of land > along > Mattawoman Creek in Pr. Georges county, almost directly across from my > grandmother's Berry land (called "Friendship") in "Berry", Charles Co.. > Perhaps his Dad had it first. What is now Sharpersville Rd runs right up > the > middle of what used to be his farm until it hits Mattawoman Creek. Now a > golf course is on the side where Dr. Middleton had a small office back in > the day and his old homeplace was/is on the other side of > Sharpersville/Middleton Rd. According to an old map of his land, > Sharpersville Rd was called Middleton Rd where it went through his land. > It > also shows a round cemetary on that old map of his land, sort of back > behind > his old home. I have ridden by that land a time or two but never went on > it. I always wonder if that little cemetery is still there. What portion > of Sharpersville Rd did you walk, on the Charles or Pr. Georges County > side? > Dr. Middleton's property as I have said lay on both sides of the road on > the > Pr. Georges side of Mattawoman Creek. If you crossed that old bridge to go > into Charles county then all that land on your left and right used to be > Berry land. In fact the Berrys owned quite a lot of land and all around > there back in the old days or so I was told. My grandmother, Eloise > Gilmore > Berry (Mrs. David Middleton Edelen) still owned 93 acres of that land (on > your left as you cross into Charles county) up until her death in the mid > 1990s. > My uncle sold the land and he and his partners built all those houses and > neighborhood that stand on it now. You would think they would have named > at > least one street after the Berrys or "Friendship" or something, which is > what the land was called back in the old days. Yankee troops camped in > their > yard during the war and she showed me a letter from the commander > apologizing for any inconvenience their presence might have cause and > thanking their family for their hospitality, etc.. There is no telling > where > that letter is now. > Anyway, I am not sure if any Middleton descendents still own > any > of that property either. The old map shows boundry markers too on the road > that intersects and is the Sharpersville community or crossroads. If you > would like I will e-mail the map/s to you. I don't know how to post them > here. Anyway, Dr. Middleton was an Asst-Surgeon in the Confederate Army > during the War for Southern Independence with the rank of either a 1st Lt > or > Captain. I am not sure when he obtained that 1600 acre tract or what. He > was > raised up around Bryantown and I assume moved to Pr. Georges County with > his > father Alexander when he moved. > Dr. Middleton's daughter was Olivia Attawa Middleton, who > married Charles Jenkins Edelen. Charles and Olivia were my great > grandparents. I don't know why her mom's middle name was Attaway and hers > was Attawa. I have a pic of Dr. Middleton, his young sister that died at > 18 > Sarah Sienna Middleton, etc.. I will be glad to share these as well. > Shirley, thanks for that bit of info about that old graveyard > on > Dr. Middleton's land. That infuriates me that the grave stones were > removed! > Why on earth would anyone do that and who did it and when?!? Isn't that > illegal? Is there at least a list or record of who all was buried there? > Why on earth I wonder would not the land owners take care of that little > cemetery, a piece of Pr. Georges Co. history and several families'? I am > just flabbergasted at that. > Take care, > David Middleton Edelen II > Alabama > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDCHARLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/26/2008 04:02:34
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] Savier Thompson 1900 Census Valley Lee, -Mystery
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ldreno Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/4386.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: None of the Thompson children were born in Tennessee. Whoever posted the information to IGI had their wires crossed. Below is the family of Samuel Chapman Thompson and Mary Jane Brewer at the time of the 1880 census, in the 6th District (Hillville) St. Mary's County. As you'll note, son Francis Xavier is listed. S. Chapman THOMPSON Self M Male W 44 MD. Merchant MD. MD. Mary J. THOMPSON Wife M Female W 40 MD. Keeping House MD. MD. Francis R. THOMPSON Son S Male W 14 MD. Attending School MD. MD. Francis X. THOMPSON Son S Male W 11 MD. At School MD. MD. George C. THOMPSON Son S Male W 9 MD. MD. MD. Morris C. THOMPSON Son S Male W 7 MD. MD. MD. William C. THOMPSON Son S Male W 4 MD. MD. MD. Leo V. THOMPSON Son S Male W 1 MD. MD. MD. Mary CRAVEN Dau S Female W 8 NY. NY. NY. Mary A. BAKER Other S Female W 19 MD. School Teacher MD. MD. Josephine CHAPMAN Other S Female B 20 MD. Servant MD. MD. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/25/2008 05:02:18
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] Savier Thompson 1900 Census Valley Lee, -Mystery
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarionSlaughter64 Surnames: Thompson, Savier Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/4386.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello here is a listing of the children of Samuel Chapman Thompson & Mary Jane Brewer according to the IGI They list no Francis Xavier Thompson born 1870? Tom Thompson International Genealogical Index - North America 76. GEORGE CLARENCE THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: 1871 , Saint Marys, Maryland 77. George Alva THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: 31 JAN 1864 Of, , , Tennessee 78. Francis Rudolph THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: 08 OCT 1865 Of, , , Tennessee 79. Jane Clara THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Female Birth: 24 DEC 1867 Of, , , Maryland 80. Maurice Chapman THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: 07 JAN 1874 Of, , , Maryland 81. William Chester THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: 15 DEC 1875 Of, , , Maryland 82. Vivian Leo OR Neal THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: 10 SEP 1878 Of, , , Maryland 83. Mary Agnes THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Female Birth: 13 JUL 1880 Of, , , Maryland 84. Claude Aloysius THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: 31 OCT 1882 Hollywood, Saint Marys, Maryland 85. Joseph Francis THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index / NA Gender: Male Birth: About 1878 Of, , , Maryland Matches: International Genealogical Index/North America - 10 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/25/2008 03:21:16
    1. [MDSTMARY] James Carroll
    2. Norma Lundgren
    3. Hi, List, James Carroll's family seems to cross the lines between Charles and St Mary's Counties. James was born about Aug 1696 and died bef 15 Apr 1759 in Charles County. He was mentioned in the records of the Samuel Burgess family, the Chapman family, and the Reagen/Regon family. He was the third husband of Elizabeth who was married first to John Wood, Jr. who died bef Aug 1714. Elizabeth was married second to John Reagen (1686-1728) who was the brother-in-law of Elizabeth Chapman (d/o Richard and Mary Chapman) who married Matthew Reagen. Elizabeth and James Carroll were the administrators for the estate of her son, John Wood who died in 1740, and naming the relationships in his probate docs. Does anyone know if this James Carroll was related to the more famous Carroll family i.e. the many Charles and Daniel Carrolls of Anne Arundel county? Thank you for any help. Norma Lundgren

    10/25/2008 02:22:18
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] [MDCHARLE] Mattawoman Church Cemetery
    2. SHIRLEY MOLLER
    3. Mur, Your Welcome. Found a little more info.... Shirley Middleton Moller Source: MIDDLETONS and KINDRED FAMILIES OF SOUTHERN MARYLAND, D.B.LLOYD Alexander Middleton's Prince George's home site was west of Middleton Road [qv], beyond the farm burying ground. This graveyard is now identified as a grove of trees back of Dr. Alexius' home place, and from which all the tombstones have now been removed. Persons still living recollect these stones, and the unevenness of the ground there bears evidence of the former graves. Other families, such as the Carrolls, had their grave yards there. That one was bounded by an iron picket fence. The last Carroll buried there was c1900. Some of the Edelens were also buried on this site. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MUR10195@aol.com> To: <mdcharle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Mattawoman Church Cemetery > Thank you, Shirley. I've walked Sharperville Road, as I said, because I > was > told that used to be Middleton Road, but I'll check the PG Co map again to > be sure there isn't another one. If you're 3rd gr grandfather lived there > in > 1870, that would be too late for my 1839-death to have been that farm > unless > it was owned by a different Middleton before your grandfather bought it. > There seems to be a lot of 'shared' property right there on the > Charles-PG line > - I've read of several families in that area and all of us are trying to > figure out where property is. There's a book entitled Stones and Bones: > Cemetery Records of Prince George's County Maryland and it was published > by the > Prince George's County Genealogy Society, and in it is written about St. > Mary's > in Piscataway: "Prior to the building of a Catholic church at Piscataway, > the > congregation worshipped about three miles away at Mattawoman Chapel on > Mattawoman Creek on the Middleton farm. Mattawoman Mission was dropped > from > Catholic Directories after 1841." I'll keep looking. > > Thanks so much! > Mur > **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your > favorites, > no registration required and great graphics – check it out! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= > http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDCHARLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/25/2008 10:18:38
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] [MDCHARLE] Mattawoman Church Cemetery
    2. SHIRLEY MOLLER
    3. Hello Mur, I know this much about the Middletons of Charles Co and PG Co. There was a Middleton farm in Piscattaway, PG Co., it was owned by my 3rd Great Grandfather Alexander Middleton. Alexander was married to Elizabeth Attaway Jameson and in his later life, he left his wife and Charles Co., farm and moved to a farm in PG Co, where he died. The info I have states his farm in 1870 was off of Middleton Road near Piscattaway. I live in Calif. so I'm not familiar with the area. I think maybe Mary Simmons can help as she is a Middleton descendant also and still has family in MD, hopefully she will respond if she is still on the list. I hope I've helped you in some way. Shirley Middleton Moller ----- Original Message ----- From: <MUR10195@aol.com> To: <ccmdgs@yahoo.com>; <MDCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com>; <mdgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 5:31 AM Subject: [MDCHARLE] Mattawoman Church Cemetery > Hello Everyone - > > I was wondering if any of you know where the Mattawoman Church Cemetery > is/was located. I'm searching for an ancestor was died in 1839. His > will was > probated in Prince George's County, but he owned land in both PG and > Charles > Counties; in fact, he lived in Charles County until probably 1810 when > he > moved to PG County. Tom Gardiner's book says that Ignatius Gardiner is > "believed to have been buried in the Mattawoman Church Cemetery which > stood near the > western most area of Townshend and the eastern most area of Piscataway." > I > found an old cemetery that has a lot of Townshends in it, have visited > St. > Mary's Church in Piscataway and looked at their records, have visited St. > John's > in Clinton because the pastor at St. Mary's said that St. John's had > their > early records, but none of their books go back farther than 1873. > Because I > know there are small cemeteries in the woods all over the counties, I > just > wondered if anyone knew where this one might be. One of my references > said that > Mattawoman Church was within three miles of St. Mary's "on the Middleton > Farm" but so far, the only Middleton Farm I know about is the one in > Charles > County that wraps around St. Peter's Church....I haven't found one in > Prince > George's County yet. My sister-in-law has been terrific in finding me > the > probable geographic area to search and finding tax records that point me > in the > direction of the people who own my ancestor's land today. I'm in Southern > Maryland until Wednesday when we have to fly back to Colorado, so have > been > researching in the Southern Maryland Studies Room and visiting as many > sites as I > can find that seem to be related. I've called family and friends, too, > attempting to piece together information from other minds and memories. > I know > Ignatius is out there somewhere... > > Thank you for any guidance you can offer. > Mur (Gardiner) Hiltenbrand > **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your > favorites, > no registration required and great graphics – check it out! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= > http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDCHARLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/25/2008 09:33:23
    1. Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes
    2. Linda Reno
    3. Jackie, Philip Medley, Jr. was b. 1781 and died in SMC on 8/11/1836 married Eleanor Neale, January 19, 1804. Eleanor Neale died in 1863 (she had been married first to Benoni Neale, but her maiden name was Neale as well). They could have been the parents of Wilford. The will of Philip Medley below doesn't mention any sons, but he did have a son named Charles. Will of Philip Medley, SMC, 8/3/1836-9/27/1836. Wife: Eleanora Medley, all of my personal estate during her life. Daughters: Ann Medley, Monica McNiell, Eleanora Medley, Mary Eliza Medley, and Martha Ann Medley, all of my personal estate after the death of my wife equally divided. Exec.: Wife, Eleanora Medley. Wit.: Leonard Neale, John F. McGerry, Charles Medley. (St. Mary's County, Maryland Wills 1836-1857 by Linda Reno). Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> To: "Linda Reno" <lindareno@comcast.net> Cc: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes > Linda - > > I've always had him tentatively listed there but really can find no reason > to put him as the their son - plus I have another problem with it, but > again I lack the definitive evidence. > > Wilford is said to have been born about 1809- 1810 based on his census > records. (And the date of his first marriage in 1830 would lend some > credence to that.) I have that John Phillip Medley was born about 1802 and > while that falls in the range of his siblings, it would certainly make > Wilford an improbable child.. The other thing tending to make me believe > that Wilford probably belongs to one of the other Medleys is the marriage > date of his purported grandparents in 1795. > > I haven't done as much work on this branch of the Medley family as I > probably should have, but this generation has always bothered me. > > As I have been working up the Rhodes line and documenting them, I keep > finding problems with their associated lines. This is one of them. > > Jackie > > Linda Reno wrote: >> Hi Jackie, >> >>> From what I see on Ancestry.com, it's claimed that Wilford Medley was >>> the >> son of Philip Medley, Jr. and Eleanor Neale. Does that agree with your >> records? The will of Philip Medley, Jr. doesn't mention a son named >> Wilford. >> >> Linda Reno >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie King" <jking71@gmail.com> >> To: "Maryland St. Mary's" <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:11 AM >> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Moving William Rhodes >> >> >>> List - >>> >>> Over the years, a lot has been made of William Rhodes' claim to have >>> been born in Washington D.C. and its led many of us to create a first >>> unknown wife for Bennett (Benedict) Rhodes to account for the child >>> William. >>> >>> I've decided to delete the unknown wife and move William to what I >>> believe for a number of reasons are his proper parents and that would be >>> William Rhodes of Washington D.C and Ann Simms, making Bennett his >>> uncle. >>> >>> That leaves me with one problem - who ARE Benedict Rhodes children? I >>> can only prove one that survived childhood and that would be Ann >>> Victoria who married Wilford Medley. I have read of another alleged >>> daughter - Nelly (probably Eleanor) who allegedly died young. While >>> that is very probable given her mother's name of Eleanor - I can't prove >>> it. And according to the censuses there should be yet another girl in >>> the family. >>> >>> There at one time should have also been at least another couple of male >>> children in the household. >>> >>> Did all of Bennet's children other than Ann die young or was he in the >>> habit of taking in the neighborhood and family waif's? >>> >>> I would appreciate any help with sorting Benedict's family or extended >>> "family". >>> >>> Jackie >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>

    10/25/2008 06:16:47