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Baptismal gifts from a godfather. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >I don't know how to make this clearer than doing the simple >math. > > Your hypothesis - there is one Robert with children John, > Mary, Robert and > Thomas: > > You said he had: > > John Clarke born abt 1642 > Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 > Robert Clarke born March 1652, > Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. > > In addition to the record about Thomas gifting to a wife, > I pointed out the > following: > > In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter > John and Mary > witnessed by Thomas Greene. > > According to your approach of only one each of these > Clarkes, he made these > gifts to John at 5 yrs old and Mary at 3/4 yrs old (ie: > from John's birth in > 1642 to the year 1647 is 5 yrs) > > I just don't think these recorded gifts to these small > children are > plausible. For one thing they would not have the legal > capacity to ever > transfer them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:39 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > I have not followed your conversations on this, or how > this would change > anything, but perhaps you have not made your point clear. > > I think it just a matter of understanding the time line of > events. > > > Here is will of Edward Barber, notice he says his sister > was Ann Clarke and > Thomas Clarke was one of the Overseers of his will. > > Ann Barber died shortly after this, because Thomas Clarke > remarried to > Julian MUDD I believe abt 1696. Thomas Clarke died 1711, > Julian MUDD then > remarried to Mathew Guibert. > > > > Will of Edward Barber, SMC 3/2/1693-5/21/1694. Wife: > Cibbil, plantation and > 200 ac. during life; to revert to son, Edward. Daughter: > Mary, 1/2 of > certain land. To: Unborn child, residue of sd. tract and > 200 ac. near > Bird's Creek. Brother: Thomas, rights in 300 ac. "Pt. of > Mitcham Hills" and > 200 ac. near Bird's Creek, formerly belonging to John > Barecroft. Cousin: > Thomas Nichols, and to Adam Clarke and heirs, rights of > 200 ac. To: > Children afsd. residue of land equally. Godsons: James > Morris and John > Branson; and Mary and Martha Williamson, daughters of > Samuel Williamson, > personal estate. In event of death of children afsd. > without issue the > children of sister Elizabeth Guibert to be co-heirs with > brother Thomas > afsd. and in event of death of Thomas afsd. without issue, > sister Mary > Nichols and Ann Clarke to be co-heirs. Wife: Cibbil > (Exec.) residuary > legatee. Overseers: Thomas Clarke, Thomas Barber. Wit: > Samuel Williamson, > Stephen Cawood, William Dutch. > > > > The reason we say Julian Mudd married Thomas CLARKE abt > 1696 is because that > is date of her father's will which he states his daughter > is Julian CLARK, > and his son in law was Thomas Clarke. There is also a > later Lawsuit > involving Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) and the children of > Thomas CLARKE > from his 1st wife Ann BARBER. The same children are listed > in lawsuit of the > Thomas Clarke who died 1711. Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) > was the step mom > to most of his children and with her new husband tried to > take away the > inheritance from the children of Thomas Clarke from 1st > wife Ann BARBER. > > Maryland Calendar of Wills: Volume 2 VOLUME II. page 121 > Mudd, Thomas,Chas. > Co., 12th Oct., 1696; > 11th Mch., 1696-7. To wife Ann, Hall's Place during life. > To son Thomas, sd. > plantation at decease of wife and land in dispute bet. > testator and Maj. > Boreman; also 650 A., Brierwood. To son Henry, Boreman's > Reserve. To son > George, 400 A., part of Cannarvan, bought of Capt. Jos. > Pile. To son John, > 180 A., St. Catherino's, bought of Edmond Nugent, and 250 > A., residue of > Cannarvan afsd. In event of death of any son or sons > without issue, lands to > pass in natural succession to male hrs. To dau. Julian > Clarke and hrs., 120 > A., Jarvis. To dau. Barbara and hrs., 200 A., Mudd's Rest. > Sons Henry and > George to be taken in charge by their brother-in-law, > Thomas Clarke. [p.121] > Wife Ann and son Thomas afsd. joint exs. Residue of estate > tobe divided > among wife and child., viz., Thomas, Henry, George, John, > Barbara, Sarah, > Jane, and Ann Mudd. Child. to be of age at 18 yrs. > Overseers: Son Thomas > Clarke and brother William Boarman. Test: Wm. Howell, Wm. > Burman, Jno. > Brookes. 7. 265. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rubyslippers > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before > about the gifts from > the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the > age of the Robert > and John making sales, etc etc > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Someone else will have to give you further pointers to refine the search. I have never been able to make the new search engine effectively work better than thousands of returns through which to page. Archives of Maryland http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/html/volumes.html Click "search" and type in a name. Sort by date. Land patents index: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/stagser/s1400/s1426/html/index54.html It's already sorted by name groups. Index cards in PDF format. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: "'Norma Lundgren'" <nlndgrn@sbcglobal.net>; <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:40 AM Subject: RE: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > Thank you Norma - I searched for MDstmary-L archives but > couldn't find > anything. Can you point me to it or explain? I found the > gift on the > transcriptions at genealogy.com. Did someone pull the > original and it was > suppose to be reversed - as in gift from Robert to wife > Jane with witness of > a Thomas? > > But I did find this about a Gilbert born 1654-1659. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MDSTMARY/2002-01/1011867332 > > Obviously not born to a John born 1642 - to make this > clear - John would > have been 12 yrs old. > > I think this also explains the transactions I was > questioning as to who the > parties were: > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mrmarsha&id=I02186 > > I note his land was in St. Lawrence - Clarkes Purchase and > Clarks Marsh > > It doesn't explain two immigrations for Robert Clarkes a > year apart. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Norma Lundgren > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:35 PM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > If you would search the Maryland Archives, you would see > that the name "Thomas" in that abstract is a > mis-read/mis-write of the abstractor. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> > To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > >>I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before >>about the gifts from >> the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, >> the >> age of the Robert >> and John making sales, etc etc >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 AM >> To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >> >> Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very >> Carefully. >> >> He was married three times. >> >> 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 >> this John Clarke >> married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 >> who >> I have married to >> John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might >> have been an >> Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) >> >> >> Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) >> wether or not >> Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name >> we >> don't know for >> sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March >> 1652, and Thomas >> Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This >> Winifred had been >> previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. >> >> Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann >> Barber, and 2nd to >> Julian MUDD. >> >> Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife >> Ann Barber, as was >> Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner >> >> >> It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah >> COMBS daughter of >> Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married >> Sarah COMBS(some >> would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of >> Robert Clarke the >> Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for >> their >> DNA on this >> Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely >> going >> to prove once and >> for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of >> Robert Clarke the >> Surveyor. >> >> >> >> Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks >> (COCKSHOOT) (CAUSIN) >> >> By third wife he had no children they were married abt >> 1656 and Robert >> Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. >> >> All of this is very well documented. >> >> Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas >> Causin, and third >> to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of rubyslippers >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM >> To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >> >> According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and >> information online he >> married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred >> Seybourne (has anyone >> determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife >> was named in the >> will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born >> 1653, >> Thomas born 1654 >> and Mary. >> >> >> >> In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter >> John and Mary >> witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave >> bond to Henry >> Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me >> unlikely >> that these are >> the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one >> would only be 5 yrs >> old. >> >> >> >> In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane >> witnessed >> by a Robert >> Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs >> old so this has to >> be from a different Clarke family. >> >> >> >> In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales >> witnessed by Ignatius >> Causine. >> >> >> >> I don't see all of these people as coming from one >> immigrant above. >> >> >> >> Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 >> (I >> think he was a >> cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about >> 1650. I find it >> hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son >> mentioned in the will >> of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to >> have been born in >> 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. >> Thomas Clarke who >> had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by >> Adam Clarke. >> >> >> >> In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his >> brother was Thomas >> and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is >> that Robert Clarke >> that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane >> were brothers. >> Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert >> Clarke of this >> generation? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

The John Clarke who was father of Gilbert CLARK is not the same John Clarke who was son of Robert Clarke the Surveyor. Robert Clarke the Surveyor's third wife was Jane Hicks(Cockshoot) Causine, she was born abt 1612,, and died abt 1662 two years before Robert Clarke the Surveyor made out his will. I can send you details about Gilbert Clarke who also had a brother named Thomas Clarke not the same one who was married to Ann Barber and Julian MUDD. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:41 AM To: 'Norma Lundgren'; mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants Thank you Norma - I searched for MDstmary-L archives but couldn't find anything. Can you point me to it or explain? I found the gift on the transcriptions at genealogy.com. Did someone pull the original and it was suppose to be reversed - as in gift from Robert to wife Jane with witness of a Thomas? But I did find this about a Gilbert born 1654-1659. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MDSTMARY/2002-01/1011867332 Obviously not born to a John born 1642 - to make this clear - John would have been 12 yrs old. I think this also explains the transactions I was questioning as to who the parties were: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mrmarsha&id=I02186 I note his land was in St. Lawrence - Clarkes Purchase and Clarks Marsh It doesn't explain two immigrations for Robert Clarkes a year apart. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norma Lundgren Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:35 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants If you would search the Maryland Archives, you would see that the name "Thomas" in that abstract is a mis-read/mis-write of the abstractor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before >about the gifts from > the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the > age of the Robert > and John making sales, etc etc > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 AM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very > Carefully. > > He was married three times. > > 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 > this John Clarke > married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 who > I have married to > John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might > have been an > Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) > > > Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) > wether or not > Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name we > don't know for > sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March > 1652, and Thomas > Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This > Winifred had been > previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. > > Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann > Barber, and 2nd to > Julian MUDD. > > Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife > Ann Barber, as was > Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner > > > It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah > COMBS daughter of > Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married > Sarah COMBS(some > would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for their > DNA on this > Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely going > to prove once and > for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. > > > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks > (COCKSHOOT) (CAUSIN) > > By third wife he had no children they were married abt > 1656 and Robert > Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. > > All of this is very well documented. > > Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas > Causin, and third > to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rubyslippers > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM > To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and > information online he > married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred > Seybourne (has anyone > determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife > was named in the > will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born 1653, > Thomas born 1654 > and Mary. > > > > In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter > John and Mary > witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave > bond to Henry > Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me unlikely > that these are > the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one > would only be 5 yrs > old. > > > > In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed > by a Robert > Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs > old so this has to > be from a different Clarke family. > > > > In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales > witnessed by Ignatius > Causine. > > > > I don't see all of these people as coming from one > immigrant above. > > > > Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I > think he was a > cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about > 1650. I find it > hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son > mentioned in the will > of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to > have been born in > 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. > Thomas Clarke who > had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by > Adam Clarke. > > > > In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his > brother was Thomas > and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is > that Robert Clarke > that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane > were brothers. > Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert > Clarke of this > generation? > > > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well you may not think they are plausible to be giving gifts to these small children so I guess that is your opinion. We differ in that respect. I think they are the same Robert Clarke the Surveyor. It was Robert Clarke the Surveyor who had the association with Gov. Thomas GREENE. And it was the same Robert CLARKE who married his widow Winifred, and it's the same Robert Clarke who was spokesman for the Jesuit Priest Thomas Copley. Same Robert Clarke who immigrated abt 1637 and stated in a deposition he was single and gave his age, as born abt 1610. I'm sorry you disagree, but I have not seen you prove otherwise. Stating you don't believe it, is not going to make it so. You need to come up with better reasons. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:47 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants I don't know how to make this clearer than doing the simple math. Your hypothesis - there is one Robert with children John, Mary, Robert and Thomas: You said he had: John Clarke born abt 1642 Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 Robert Clarke born March 1652, Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. In addition to the record about Thomas gifting to a wife, I pointed out the following: In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter John and Mary witnessed by Thomas Greene. According to your approach of only one each of these Clarkes, he made these gifts to John at 5 yrs old and Mary at 3/4 yrs old (ie: from John's birth in 1642 to the year 1647 is 5 yrs) I just don't think these recorded gifts to these small children are plausible. For one thing they would not have the legal capacity to ever transfer them. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:39 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants I have not followed your conversations on this, or how this would change anything, but perhaps you have not made your point clear. I think it just a matter of understanding the time line of events. Here is will of Edward Barber, notice he says his sister was Ann Clarke and Thomas Clarke was one of the Overseers of his will. Ann Barber died shortly after this, because Thomas Clarke remarried to Julian MUDD I believe abt 1696. Thomas Clarke died 1711, Julian MUDD then remarried to Mathew Guibert. Will of Edward Barber, SMC 3/2/1693-5/21/1694. Wife: Cibbil, plantation and 200 ac. during life; to revert to son, Edward. Daughter: Mary, 1/2 of certain land. To: Unborn child, residue of sd. tract and 200 ac. near Bird's Creek. Brother: Thomas, rights in 300 ac. "Pt. of Mitcham Hills" and 200 ac. near Bird's Creek, formerly belonging to John Barecroft. Cousin: Thomas Nichols, and to Adam Clarke and heirs, rights of 200 ac. To: Children afsd. residue of land equally. Godsons: James Morris and John Branson; and Mary and Martha Williamson, daughters of Samuel Williamson, personal estate. In event of death of children afsd. without issue the children of sister Elizabeth Guibert to be co-heirs with brother Thomas afsd. and in event of death of Thomas afsd. without issue, sister Mary Nichols and Ann Clarke to be co-heirs. Wife: Cibbil (Exec.) residuary legatee. Overseers: Thomas Clarke, Thomas Barber. Wit: Samuel Williamson, Stephen Cawood, William Dutch. The reason we say Julian Mudd married Thomas CLARKE abt 1696 is because that is date of her father's will which he states his daughter is Julian CLARK, and his son in law was Thomas Clarke. There is also a later Lawsuit involving Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) and the children of Thomas CLARKE from his 1st wife Ann BARBER. The same children are listed in lawsuit of the Thomas Clarke who died 1711. Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) was the step mom to most of his children and with her new husband tried to take away the inheritance from the children of Thomas Clarke from 1st wife Ann BARBER. Maryland Calendar of Wills: Volume 2 VOLUME II. page 121 Mudd, Thomas,Chas. Co., 12th Oct., 1696; 11th Mch., 1696-7. To wife Ann, Hall's Place during life. To son Thomas, sd. plantation at decease of wife and land in dispute bet. testator and Maj. Boreman; also 650 A., Brierwood. To son Henry, Boreman's Reserve. To son George, 400 A., part of Cannarvan, bought of Capt. Jos. Pile. To son John, 180 A., St. Catherino's, bought of Edmond Nugent, and 250 A., residue of Cannarvan afsd. In event of death of any son or sons without issue, lands to pass in natural succession to male hrs. To dau. Julian Clarke and hrs., 120 A., Jarvis. To dau. Barbara and hrs., 200 A., Mudd's Rest. Sons Henry and George to be taken in charge by their brother-in-law, Thomas Clarke. [p.121] Wife Ann and son Thomas afsd. joint exs. Residue of estate tobe divided among wife and child., viz., Thomas, Henry, George, John, Barbara, Sarah, Jane, and Ann Mudd. Child. to be of age at 18 yrs. Overseers: Son Thomas Clarke and brother William Boarman. Test: Wm. Howell, Wm. Burman, Jno. Brookes. 7. 265. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before about the gifts from the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the age of the Robert and John making sales, etc etc ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know how to make this clearer than doing the simple math. Your hypothesis - there is one Robert with children John, Mary, Robert and Thomas: You said he had: John Clarke born abt 1642 Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 Robert Clarke born March 1652, Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. In addition to the record about Thomas gifting to a wife, I pointed out the following: In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter John and Mary witnessed by Thomas Greene. According to your approach of only one each of these Clarkes, he made these gifts to John at 5 yrs old and Mary at 3/4 yrs old (ie: from John's birth in 1642 to the year 1647 is 5 yrs) I just don't think these recorded gifts to these small children are plausible. For one thing they would not have the legal capacity to ever transfer them. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:39 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants I have not followed your conversations on this, or how this would change anything, but perhaps you have not made your point clear. I think it just a matter of understanding the time line of events. Here is will of Edward Barber, notice he says his sister was Ann Clarke and Thomas Clarke was one of the Overseers of his will. Ann Barber died shortly after this, because Thomas Clarke remarried to Julian MUDD I believe abt 1696. Thomas Clarke died 1711, Julian MUDD then remarried to Mathew Guibert. Will of Edward Barber, SMC 3/2/1693-5/21/1694. Wife: Cibbil, plantation and 200 ac. during life; to revert to son, Edward. Daughter: Mary, 1/2 of certain land. To: Unborn child, residue of sd. tract and 200 ac. near Bird's Creek. Brother: Thomas, rights in 300 ac. "Pt. of Mitcham Hills" and 200 ac. near Bird's Creek, formerly belonging to John Barecroft. Cousin: Thomas Nichols, and to Adam Clarke and heirs, rights of 200 ac. To: Children afsd. residue of land equally. Godsons: James Morris and John Branson; and Mary and Martha Williamson, daughters of Samuel Williamson, personal estate. In event of death of children afsd. without issue the children of sister Elizabeth Guibert to be co-heirs with brother Thomas afsd. and in event of death of Thomas afsd. without issue, sister Mary Nichols and Ann Clarke to be co-heirs. Wife: Cibbil (Exec.) residuary legatee. Overseers: Thomas Clarke, Thomas Barber. Wit: Samuel Williamson, Stephen Cawood, William Dutch. The reason we say Julian Mudd married Thomas CLARKE abt 1696 is because that is date of her father's will which he states his daughter is Julian CLARK, and his son in law was Thomas Clarke. There is also a later Lawsuit involving Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) and the children of Thomas CLARKE from his 1st wife Ann BARBER. The same children are listed in lawsuit of the Thomas Clarke who died 1711. Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) was the step mom to most of his children and with her new husband tried to take away the inheritance from the children of Thomas Clarke from 1st wife Ann BARBER. Maryland Calendar of Wills: Volume 2 VOLUME II. page 121 Mudd, Thomas,Chas. Co., 12th Oct., 1696; 11th Mch., 1696-7. To wife Ann, Hall's Place during life. To son Thomas, sd. plantation at decease of wife and land in dispute bet. testator and Maj. Boreman; also 650 A., Brierwood. To son Henry, Boreman's Reserve. To son George, 400 A., part of Cannarvan, bought of Capt. Jos. Pile. To son John, 180 A., St. Catherino's, bought of Edmond Nugent, and 250 A., residue of Cannarvan afsd. In event of death of any son or sons without issue, lands to pass in natural succession to male hrs. To dau. Julian Clarke and hrs., 120 A., Jarvis. To dau. Barbara and hrs., 200 A., Mudd's Rest. Sons Henry and George to be taken in charge by their brother-in-law, Thomas Clarke. [p.121] Wife Ann and son Thomas afsd. joint exs. Residue of estate tobe divided among wife and child., viz., Thomas, Henry, George, John, Barbara, Sarah, Jane, and Ann Mudd. Child. to be of age at 18 yrs. Overseers: Son Thomas Clarke and brother William Boarman. Test: Wm. Howell, Wm. Burman, Jno. Brookes. 7. 265. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before about the gifts from the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the age of the Robert and John making sales, etc etc ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Norma - I searched for MDstmary-L archives but couldn't find anything. Can you point me to it or explain? I found the gift on the transcriptions at genealogy.com. Did someone pull the original and it was suppose to be reversed - as in gift from Robert to wife Jane with witness of a Thomas? But I did find this about a Gilbert born 1654-1659. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MDSTMARY/2002-01/1011867332 Obviously not born to a John born 1642 - to make this clear - John would have been 12 yrs old. I think this also explains the transactions I was questioning as to who the parties were: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mrmarsha&id=I02186 I note his land was in St. Lawrence - Clarkes Purchase and Clarks Marsh It doesn't explain two immigrations for Robert Clarkes a year apart. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norma Lundgren Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:35 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants If you would search the Maryland Archives, you would see that the name "Thomas" in that abstract is a mis-read/mis-write of the abstractor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before >about the gifts from > the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the > age of the Robert > and John making sales, etc etc > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 AM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very > Carefully. > > He was married three times. > > 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 > this John Clarke > married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 who > I have married to > John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might > have been an > Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) > > > Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) > wether or not > Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name we > don't know for > sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March > 1652, and Thomas > Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This > Winifred had been > previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. > > Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann > Barber, and 2nd to > Julian MUDD. > > Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife > Ann Barber, as was > Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner > > > It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah > COMBS daughter of > Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married > Sarah COMBS(some > would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for their > DNA on this > Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely going > to prove once and > for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. > > > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks > (COCKSHOOT) (CAUSIN) > > By third wife he had no children they were married abt > 1656 and Robert > Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. > > All of this is very well documented. > > Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas > Causin, and third > to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rubyslippers > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM > To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and > information online he > married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred > Seybourne (has anyone > determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife > was named in the > will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born 1653, > Thomas born 1654 > and Mary. > > > > In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter > John and Mary > witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave > bond to Henry > Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me unlikely > that these are > the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one > would only be 5 yrs > old. > > > > In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed > by a Robert > Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs > old so this has to > be from a different Clarke family. > > > > In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales > witnessed by Ignatius > Causine. > > > > I don't see all of these people as coming from one > immigrant above. > > > > Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I > think he was a > cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about > 1650. I find it > hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son > mentioned in the will > of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to > have been born in > 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. > Thomas Clarke who > had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by > Adam Clarke. > > > > In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his > brother was Thomas > and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is > that Robert Clarke > that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane > were brothers. > Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert > Clarke of this > generation? > > > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I have not followed your conversations on this, or how this would change anything, but perhaps you have not made your point clear. I think it just a matter of understanding the time line of events. Here is will of Edward Barber, notice he says his sister was Ann Clarke and Thomas Clarke was one of the Overseers of his will. Ann Barber died shortly after this, because Thomas Clarke remarried to Julian MUDD I believe abt 1696. Thomas Clarke died 1711, Julian MUDD then remarried to Mathew Guibert. Will of Edward Barber, SMC 3/2/1693-5/21/1694. Wife: Cibbil, plantation and 200 ac. during life; to revert to son, Edward. Daughter: Mary, 1/2 of certain land. To: Unborn child, residue of sd. tract and 200 ac. near Bird's Creek. Brother: Thomas, rights in 300 ac. "Pt. of Mitcham Hills" and 200 ac. near Bird's Creek, formerly belonging to John Barecroft. Cousin: Thomas Nichols, and to Adam Clarke and heirs, rights of 200 ac. To: Children afsd. residue of land equally. Godsons: James Morris and John Branson; and Mary and Martha Williamson, daughters of Samuel Williamson, personal estate. In event of death of children afsd. without issue the children of sister Elizabeth Guibert to be co-heirs with brother Thomas afsd. and in event of death of Thomas afsd. without issue, sister Mary Nichols and Ann Clarke to be co-heirs. Wife: Cibbil (Exec.) residuary legatee. Overseers: Thomas Clarke, Thomas Barber. Wit: Samuel Williamson, Stephen Cawood, William Dutch. The reason we say Julian Mudd married Thomas CLARKE abt 1696 is because that is date of her father's will which he states his daughter is Julian CLARK, and his son in law was Thomas Clarke. There is also a later Lawsuit involving Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) and the children of Thomas CLARKE from his 1st wife Ann BARBER. The same children are listed in lawsuit of the Thomas Clarke who died 1711. Julian Mudd CLARKE (GUIBERT) was the step mom to most of his children and with her new husband tried to take away the inheritance from the children of Thomas Clarke from 1st wife Ann BARBER. Maryland Calendar of Wills: Volume 2 VOLUME II. page 121 Mudd, Thomas,Chas. Co., 12th Oct., 1696; 11th Mch., 1696-7. To wife Ann, Hall's Place during life. To son Thomas, sd. plantation at decease of wife and land in dispute bet. testator and Maj. Boreman; also 650 A., Brierwood. To son Henry, Boreman's Reserve. To son George, 400 A., part of Cannarvan, bought of Capt. Jos. Pile. To son John, 180 A., St. Catherino's, bought of Edmond Nugent, and 250 A., residue of Cannarvan afsd. In event of death of any son or sons without issue, lands to pass in natural succession to male hrs. To dau. Julian Clarke and hrs., 120 A., Jarvis. To dau. Barbara and hrs., 200 A., Mudd's Rest. Sons Henry and George to be taken in charge by their brother-in-law, Thomas Clarke. [p.121] Wife Ann and son Thomas afsd. joint exs. Residue of estate tobe divided among wife and child., viz., Thomas, Henry, George, John, Barbara, Sarah, Jane, and Ann Mudd. Child. to be of age at 18 yrs. Overseers: Son Thomas Clarke and brother William Boarman. Test: Wm. Howell, Wm. Burman, Jno. Brookes. 7. 265. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before about the gifts from the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the age of the Robert and John making sales, etc etc

If you would search the Maryland Archives, you would see that the name "Thomas" in that abstract is a mis-read/mis-write of the abstractor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rubyslippers" <rubyslippers@kc.rr.com> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants >I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before >about the gifts from > the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the > age of the Robert > and John making sales, etc etc > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 AM > To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very > Carefully. > > He was married three times. > > 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 > this John Clarke > married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 who > I have married to > John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might > have been an > Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) > > > Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) > wether or not > Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name we > don't know for > sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March > 1652, and Thomas > Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This > Winifred had been > previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. > > Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann > Barber, and 2nd to > Julian MUDD. > > Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife > Ann Barber, as was > Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner > > > It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah > COMBS daughter of > Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married > Sarah COMBS(some > would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for their > DNA on this > Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely going > to prove once and > for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of > Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. > > > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks > (COCKSHOOT) (CAUSIN) > > By third wife he had no children they were married abt > 1656 and Robert > Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. > > All of this is very well documented. > > Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas > Causin, and third > to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rubyslippers > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM > To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and > information online he > married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred > Seybourne (has anyone > determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife > was named in the > will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born 1653, > Thomas born 1654 > and Mary. > > > > In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter > John and Mary > witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave > bond to Henry > Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me unlikely > that these are > the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one > would only be 5 yrs > old. > > > > In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed > by a Robert > Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs > old so this has to > be from a different Clarke family. > > > > In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales > witnessed by Ignatius > Causine. > > > > I don't see all of these people as coming from one > immigrant above. > > > > Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I > think he was a > cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about > 1650. I find it > hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son > mentioned in the will > of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to > have been born in > 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. > Thomas Clarke who > had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by > Adam Clarke. > > > > In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his > brother was Thomas > and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is > that Robert Clarke > that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane > were brothers. > Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert > Clarke of this > generation? > > > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

I still don't see how this explains what I wrote before about the gifts from the Robert to children, the age of the married Thomas, the age of the Robert and John making sales, etc etc -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerry L. Clark Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 AM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very Carefully. He was married three times. 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 this John Clarke married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 who I have married to John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might have been an Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) wether or not Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name we don't know for sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March 1652, and Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This Winifred had been previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann Barber, and 2nd to Julian MUDD. Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife Ann Barber, as was Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah COMBS daughter of Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married Sarah COMBS(some would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of Robert Clarke the Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for their DNA on this Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely going to prove once and for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of Robert Clarke the Surveyor. Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks (COCKSHOOT) (CAUSIN) By third wife he had no children they were married abt 1656 and Robert Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. All of this is very well documented. Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas Causin, and third to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and information online he married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred Seybourne (has anyone determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife was named in the will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born 1653, Thomas born 1654 and Mary. In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter John and Mary witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave bond to Henry Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me unlikely that these are the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one would only be 5 yrs old. In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed by a Robert Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs old so this has to be from a different Clarke family. In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales witnessed by Ignatius Causine. I don't see all of these people as coming from one immigrant above. Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I think he was a cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about 1650. I find it hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son mentioned in the will of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to have been born in 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. Thomas Clarke who had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by Adam Clarke. In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his brother was Thomas and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is that Robert Clarke that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane were brothers. Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert Clarke of this generation? Thanks! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re your posting below and the maiden name of Winifred. I have Calvert. Sources Md St. Mary List, and Joseph Clements. This is what I have in my database Descendants of Thomas (Greene) Green, III, 226-6, Gov. 1 Thomas (Greene) GREEN, III, 226-6, Gov. b: 1635 MD d: 18 Sep 1688 MD .. +Winifred CALVERT, #1W b: Abt. 1630 MD m: Abt. 1645 St. Marys Co, MD d: 01 Oct 1656 Father: Cecilius "Cecil" Calvert, 2LB, 3611-2-1 Mother: Anne Thomas Arundel, Lady, Countess 2 Robert GREEN, I, 226-3 b: 1646 St. Mary's Co, MD, Green's Rest, d: 12 May 1716 St. Mary's Co, MD ... +Mary BOARMAN, (159-10-4) b: 1660 Bryantown, Charles Co, MD m: 16 Jul 1679 St. Marys Co, MD d: 1716 MD Father: William (Boerman) Boarman, Major, 159-10 (2H) Mother: Sarah (Sinle) Linle, 159-11, #1W 2 Francis GREEN, I, Governor, 226-12-4 b: Abt. 1648 d: May 1707 MD, Greens Rest ... +Elizabeth b: Abt. 1648 m: Abt. 1667 Dottie (Porter) Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 djhimes@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry L. Clark" <jerry876@comcast.net> To: <mdstmary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very Carefully. > > He was married three times. > > 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 this John Clarke > married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 who I have married > to > John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might have been an > Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) > > > Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) wether or not > Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name we don't know for > sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March 1652, and Thomas > Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This Winifred had been > previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. > > Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann Barber, and 2nd to > Julian MUDD. > > Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife Ann Barber, as was > Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner > > > It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah COMBS daughter of > Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married Sarah COMBS(some > would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for their DNA on this > Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely going to prove once > and > for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of Robert Clarke the > Surveyor. > > > > Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks (COCKSHOOT) > (CAUSIN) > > By third wife he had no children they were married abt 1656 and Robert > Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. > > All of this is very well documented. > > Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas Causin, and > third > to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of rubyslippers > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM > To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants > > According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and information online he > married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred Seybourne (has anyone > determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife was named in the > will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born 1653, Thomas born > 1654 > and Mary. > > > > In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter John and Mary > witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave bond to Henry > Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me unlikely that these are > the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one would only be 5 yrs > old. > > > > In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed by a Robert > Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs old so this has to > be from a different Clarke family. > > > > In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales witnessed by > Ignatius > Causine. > > > > I don't see all of these people as coming from one immigrant above. > > > > Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I think he was a > cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about 1650. I find it > hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son mentioned in the will > of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to have been born in > 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. Thomas Clarke who > had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by Adam Clarke. > > > > In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his brother was Thomas > and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is that Robert Clarke > that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane were brothers. > Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert Clarke of this > generation? > > > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and information online he married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred Seybourne (has anyone determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 No she died 1655. and no wife was named in the will. 3rd wife Jane Hicks (COCKSHOOT) CAUSINE died about 1662. In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter John and Mary witnessed by Thomas Greene. This is same Robert Clarke the Surveyor. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave bond to Henry Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. Once Again Robert Clarke the Surveyor It seems to me unlikely that these are the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one would only be 5 yrs old. This is same Robert Clarke the Surveyor. In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed by a Robert Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs old so this has to be from a different Clarke family. Nope. It's the same Family. In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales witnessed by Ignatius Causine. I don't see all of these people as coming from one immigrant above. If you need the documentation I can send to you separately, Robert Clarke the Surveyor is well documented. Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I think he was a cousin?) Edward Barber was the brother of Ann BARBER who married 1st to Thomas CLARKE father of Adam CLARKE. I would expect this Adam to have been born about 1650. Adam CLARKE was born abt 1682- 1686. I find it hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son mentioned in the will of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to have been born in 1682. There was only one Adam Clarke that I know of the son of Thomas CLARKE and Ann BARBER, whose step mom was Julian MUDD It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. Only one Adam Clarke that we know of. Thomas Clarke who had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by Adam Clarke. In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his brother was Thomas and cousin was Francis Greene. That's because Robert Clarke the Surveyor had married Jane Hicks (Cockshoot) Causine. What this indicates is that Robert Clarke that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane were brothers. NO way. Your all confused. Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert Clarke of this generation? Nope. Thanks! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert Clarke the Surveyor Is one I have researched very Carefully. He was married three times. 1st to Unknown by which he had John Clarke born abt 1642 this John Clarke married Ann ?, a daughter Mary Clarke born abt 1644/45 who I have married to John COMPTON. Some think that perhaps his 1st wife might have been an Eleanor ?(this has not been proven for sure) Robert Clarke married 2nd to Winifred Seyborne (GREENE) wether or not Seyborne was her Maiden Name or a previous married name we don't know for sure. By this marriage he had Robert Clarke born March 1652, and Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654. Winifred died by 1655. This Winifred had been previously married to Governor Thomas GREENE. Thomas Clarke born 25 Dec 1654 married twice 1st to Ann Barber, and 2nd to Julian MUDD. Most all of Thomas Clarke's children were from 1st wife Ann Barber, as was Adam CLARKE who married Mary Gardiner It is my belief that the son Robert Clarke married Sarah COMBS daughter of Abraham Combs. I decend from Robert Clarke who married Sarah COMBS(some would disagree that this Robert Clarke was the son of Robert Clarke the Surveyor. Currently many people are being tested for their DNA on this Robert Clarke's line, and I'm confident it is likely going to prove once and for all his parents. We will see if he is the son of Robert Clarke the Surveyor. Robert Clarke the Surveyor married third to Jane Hicks (COCKSHOOT) (CAUSIN) By third wife he had no children they were married abt 1656 and Robert Clarke the Surveyor died by 1664. All of this is very well documented. Jane Hicks married 1st to John Cockshoot, 2nd to Nicholas Causin, and third to Robert CLARKE the Surveyor. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rubyslippers Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:15 AM To: MDSTMARY@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDSTMARY] Robert Clarke immigrants According to the will of Robert Clarke died 1664 and information online he married the widow of Thomas Greene - Mrs. Winifred Seybourne (has anyone determined her maiden name?) She died in 1658 and no wife was named in the will. His children were John born 1642, Robert born 1653, Thomas born 1654 and Mary. In 1647 "A" Robt Clarke gave gifts to son and daughter John and Mary witnessed by Thomas Greene. In 1655 "A" Robt Clarke gave bond to Henry Adams to marry widow Jane Causin. It seems to me unlikely that these are the same Robt Clarkes as the son John of the first one would only be 5 yrs old. In 1662 a Thomas Clarke gave a gift to wife Jane witnessed by a Robert Clarke. Again, Thomas Clarke above would only be 8 yrs old so this has to be from a different Clarke family. In 1662/63 a Robert Clarke and John Clarke made sales witnessed by Ignatius Causine. I don't see all of these people as coming from one immigrant above. Edward Barber mentioned Adam Clarke in his will of 1694 (I think he was a cousin?)I would expect this Adam to have been born about 1650. I find it hard to believe that these refer to Adam Clarke, son mentioned in the will of Thomas who died in 1711. That Adam is estimated to have been born in 1682. It seems that some wills and an Adam are missing. Thomas Clarke who had wife Julian made an indenture in 1709 witnessed by Adam Clarke. In his 1695 will Ignatius Crusine, son of Jane said his brother was Thomas and cousin was Francis Greene. What this indicates is that Robert Clarke that married Winifred and Robert Clarke that married Jane were brothers. Has anyone found an inventory or will for a 2nd Robert Clarke of this generation? Thanks! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Norma. That has always puzzled me. If Abram Branson is meant to be his cousin than Mary, sister of Edward and Luke married a Branson. The John that had 9 children had the only Abram I'm aware of. That John's will was the one with all the Brisco names as testator. His father was Michael. -----Original Message----- From: mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdstmary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norma Lundgren Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:35 PM To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Branson and Michael Branson who married Rebecca The Maryland Calendar Of Wills Compiled And Edited By Jane Baldwin (Jane Baldwin Cotton) Wills From 1738 To 1743 Volume VIII. Family Line Publications Westminster, Maryland 1988; p. 260 Barber, Elias, St. Mary's Co., 24th Dec., 1743; 27th Dec., 1743. To bro. John, cousins Baptist, Cornelius, Edward son of Luke and Rebecca and Abram Branson and to Thomas Greenfield and Edward Barber, Sr., personalty including that now with Vincent Taylor. To sisters Elizabeth Power, Eleanor Sanders, Margaret Taylor, 1s. each. " cousin Baptist, residue of estate. Ex.: ---. Test: James Fysye, Peter Moran, John Elliott, Mevril Haulks. 23.458. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Maryland Calendar Of Wills Compiled And Edited By Jane Baldwin (Jane Baldwin Cotton) Wills From 1738 To 1743 Volume VIII. Family Line Publications Westminster, Maryland 1988; p. 260 Barber, Elias, St. Mary's Co., 24th Dec., 1743; 27th Dec., 1743. To bro. John, cousins Baptist, Cornelius, Edward son of Luke and Rebecca and Abram Branson and to Thomas Greenfield and Edward Barber, Sr., personalty including that now with Vincent Taylor. To sisters Elizabeth Power, Eleanor Sanders, Margaret Taylor, 1s. each. " cousin Baptist, residue of estate. Ex.: ---. Test: James Fysye, Peter Moran, John Elliott, Mevril Haulks. 23.458.

Anyone have any connects to this family ?     Descendants of Edward Smith  Generation No. 11. Children of EDWARD1MITHwas born in Maryland ?, and died Abt. 1820. He married ELIZABETH/ELEANOR[SMITH]. DWARDSMITHand ELIZABETH/ELEANOR[SMITH]are:2. i. J 3. ii. S 4. iii. B 5. iv. W  ULIANNE2MITH, b. 1795, Maryland; d. 1871, St Augustine, IL.AMUELA.SMITH, b. 1803, St. Mary's Co., Md; d. 1850, St.Vincent, KY.ENEDICT/BENJAMINJOSEPH "BEN"SMITH, b. Bet. 1812 - 1814, Kentucky; d. July 16, 1902, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks.ILLIAMD. "UNCLE BILL"SMITH, b. July 12, 1815, Union Co., Ky; d. October 17, 1882, Osage Mission, Neosho Co., KS.Generation No. 22. Children of JULIANNE2MITH(EDWARD1OSEPHMCKIEARNAN. He was born 1787 in Va, and died 1872 in St Augustine, IL.ULIANNESMITHand JOSEPHMCKIEARNANare:i. L ii. E iii. B iv. P v. B vi. E  AWRENCEALEXANDER3CKIEARNAN, b. January 28, 1820, Shawneetown, ILL; d. July 26, 1909, St. Augustine, IL; m. EMILYHAGAN, 1846, ST Augustine, IL; b. December 25, 1826, Union Co., KY; d. May 27, 1851, St. Augustine, IL.DWARDMCKIEARNAN, b. 1821; d. 1847, St Augustine, IL.ERNARDMARCELLAMCKIEARNAN, b. 1825; d. 1887, St Augustine, IL.ETERMCKIEARNAN, b. November 24, 1831, St Vincent, Ky.ENEDICTJOSEPHMCKIEARNAN, b. March 15, 1831.LIZABETHSUSANMCKIEARNAN, b. March 1839, St Vincent, Ky; m. CHARLESCOOMES.3. Children of SAMUELA.2MITH(EDWARD1OUISACLEMENTS. AMUELSMITHand LOUISACLEMENTSare:i. P ii. B iii. A iv. M v. E  ATRICKH.3MITH, b. 1830; d. 1902; m. (1) CATHERINEGITTINGS; m. (2) ANNAM.ROBEY.ERNARDSMITH, b. 1833, Kentucky.NNMINERVASMITH, b. 1835, Kentucky; d. July 1923, Humbolt, Ks; m. JOSEPHF.WHEAT, Aft. 1852, Kentucky; b. 1830, Woodford County, Kentucky; d. December 18, 1893, Osage Mission, Neosho Co., KS.ARYELLENSMITH, b. 1837, Kentucky; m. A.A.MAILLIARD.LIZABETHA.SMITH, b. 1839; d. 1840.4. Children of BENEDICT/BENJAMINJOSEPH "BEN"2MITH(EDWARD1OUISAHAGAN, daughter of LEONARDHAGANand ELIZABETHCOOKE. She was born 1823 in Union Co., Ky, and died January 24, 1854 in St Augustine, IL. He married (2) TERESAAUSTIN. She died September 17, 1844 in St Augustine, IL. He married (3) CATHERINE[SMITH]. She was born Abt. 1822 in Maryland.ENEDICT/BENJAMINSMITHand LOUISAHAGANare:i. J ii. A iii. S iv. O v. SULIANE.3MITH, b. August 1847, ILL; d. November 05, 1916, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks; m. SARAHJANE "SALLY"SPALDING, April 17, 1877, Neosho County, Ks; b. February 04, 1853, Monroe Co., Mo; d. February 14, 1926, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks.USTINSMITH, b. 1847.USANSMITH, b. Abt. 1848, IL.SCARSMITH, b. Abt. 1849, IL.AMUELSMITH, b. 1850.Children of BENEDICT/BENJAMINSMITHand CATHERINE[SMITH]are:vi. R vii. J viii. M ix. N x. L xi. C xii. C xiii. G  OSA3MITH, b. Abt. 1858, IL; d. res St. Paul, Ks 1880.ULIAS.SMITH, b. 1862; d. 1944; m. (1) JOHNH.RINEY, April 09, 1883, Neosho Co., Ks; b. Abt. 1856; m. (2) BARRZILLIAS.JUSTICE, March 30, 1884, Neosho Co., Ks; b. 1862, IN; d. 1949.ARYSMITH, b. Abt. 1864.ANCYSMITH, b. 1865, ILL; d. res St. Paul, Ks 1880.OUISESMITH, b. Abt. 1867, IL; d. res St. Paul, Ks 1880.ATHERINE"KATIE"SMITH, b. 1870, Kansas.ARYSMITH, b. 1872, Kansas; d. res St. Paul, Ks 1880.RACESMITH, b. 1875, Kansas; d. res St. Paul, Ks 1880.5. Children of WILLIAMD. "UNCLE BILL"2MITH(EDWARD1ATILDAHAGANOctober 30, 1837 in Union Co., Kentucky, daughter of LEONARDHAGANand ELIZABETHCOOKE. She was born February 04, 1816 in St. Mary's County, Md, and died February 24, 1899 in St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks.ILLIAMSMITHand MATILDAHAGANare:i. I ii. L iii. M iv. B v. G vi. J vii. S viii. M ix. A x. F xi. L.3MITH, m. MARYCATHERINEHAYDEN; b. 1845.EONARDEDWARDSMITH, b. February 01, 1840, Union Co., Ky; m. MARY[SMITH], MO.ARYELIZABETH "BETTY"SMITH, b. 1842, ILL; d. December 01, 1910, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks; m. WALKERJONES, Kansas.ERNARDCOSTANTINESMITH, b. December 09, 1843, Knox County, IL; d. June 24, 1896, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks; m. SUSANMARTIN, July 15, 1867, Hunnewell, MO; b. August 14, 1845, Hunnewell, Mo; d. November 28, 1909, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks.EORGEE.SMITH, b. July 30, 1845, Knox County, IL; d. December 29, 1904, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks; m. CLARAMARY "MARIA"GEORGE, May 02, 1882, St. Francis Church St. Paul, Ks; b. January 12, 1853, Sheldon, New York; d. February 14, 1933, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks.OSEPHW.SMITH, b. Abt. 1848, IL.AMUELROBERTSMITH, b. February 16, 1852, Knox County, IL; d. October 09, 1899, St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks; m. NONE.ARTHASMITH, b. Abt. 1854, IL.NNSMITH, b. 1857, IL; d. January 1860.RANCISSMITH, b. Abt. 1858.OUISESMITH, b. Abt. 1861.   S) was born July 12, 1815 in Union Co., Ky, and died October 17, 1882 in Osage Mission, Neosho Co., KS. He married M S W S S) was born Bet. 1812 - 1814 in Kentucky, and died July 16, 1902 in St. Paul, Neosho Co., Ks. He married (1) L S B S) was born 1803 in St. Mary's Co., Md, and died 1850 in St.Vincent, KY. He married L S S M) was born 1795 in Maryland, and died 1871 in St Augustine, IL. She married J S J S S E Randy or Kat Dunavan   Longview, Texas  

Here's the story: John JARBOE was born in 1619 in Dijon, France. He came to the colony of York, Virginia about 1640. During the Claiborne and Ingles rebellion of 1645 and 46 in Maryland. Against Lord Baltimore, Leonard Calvert went to York, Virginia to seek refuge and amass a force to regain his power in Maryland. He enlisted several men, too which were Col. William Evans and John JARBOE, who was with him in York and Kicotan, VA. ( Kicotan is now Elizabeth City ) . John immigrated to Maryland as apart of the militia. With an promise of 100 acres of land for his services. ( Being French in a British Crown Colony, he was considered a alien and not allowed to own land by law) . There are several documented court appearances by John, trying to gain title to the promised 100 acres of land . Here are the questions: 1) Where's the proof? 2) What ship did John Jarboe arrive on? Here's a deed mentioning William Evans -- deceased. Bacon, Nathaniel, Col. Publication 26 October 1666. Location: York County. VIRGINIA Description: 25 acres according to the ancient bounds. Escheat land. Formerly granted to William Evans, decesed. Source: va Land Office Patents No. 6, 1666-1679 (pt.1 & 2 p.1-692), p. 6 (Reel 6). The above cannot be the same William Evans who left a will in St. Mary's County. Help. **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

Isn't genealogy fun? I love running across a good mystery to research. ----- Original Message ----- From: <EPERRY4616@aol.com> To: <MDSTMARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:48 AM Subject: [MDSTMARY] Back to John Jarboe again > Here's the story: > > John JARBOE was born in 1619 in Dijon, France. He came > to the colony of > York, Virginia about 1640. During the Claiborne and Ingles > rebellion of 1645 > and 46 in Maryland. Against Lord Baltimore, Leonard > Calvert went to York, > Virginia to seek refuge and amass a force to regain his > power in Maryland. > > He enlisted several men, too which were Col. William > Evans and John > JARBOE, who was with him in York and Kicotan, VA. ( > Kicotan is now Elizabeth City > ) . John immigrated to Maryland as apart of the militia. > With an promise of > 100 acres of land for his services. ( Being French in a > British Crown > Colony, he was considered a alien and not allowed to own > land by law) . There are > several documented court appearances by John, trying to > gain title to the > promised 100 acres of land . > > Here are the questions: > 1) Where's the proof? > 2) What ship did John Jarboe arrive on? > > Here's a deed mentioning William Evans -- deceased. > > Bacon, Nathaniel, Col. Publication 26 October 1666. > Location: York > County. VIRGINIA > Description: 25 acres according to the ancient bounds. > Escheat land. > Formerly granted to William Evans, decesed. Source: va > Land Office Patents No. 6, > 1666-1679 (pt.1 & 2 p.1-692), p. 6 (Reel 6). > > The above cannot be the same William Evans who left a will > in St. Mary's > County. > > Help. > > > > **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, > your social networks, > and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com > today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp > %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Calvert issued Clipping to William Evans, Jarboe was basically as a co-owner. 1648   John Jarboe - takes possession of 100 acres parcel of land known as Clipping.(Source:  St. Mary’s County Maryland Rent Rolls)  This parcel was Re-surveyed in 1680 into HoptonParkfor Daniel Langhorn.    Jarboe -  it can be said, was the First Naturalize Citizen in the British Colonies. Anyway, Good luck finding a record on VA arrival or ship.  A couple of Professors @ William & Mary in Williamsburg were kind enough to help us dig into this without success.  No record of the Jarboe name in colonial Virginia, just Maryland. Period.  Yet, there is a record .... 1642   A John Parks appears in the Virginia colonies.  (John Parks is a name sited in Maryland court records in the same contents as John Jarboe). (Archive of Maryland Vol. III p 401).   1644  A John Parks, was transported by Stephen Taylor to Virginiafrom England.  (Early VirginiaImmigrants, 1623-1666). This is unlikely not Jarboe  For this Parks was in Virginia after 1644.   Reference:  The book pg 6: "Jarboe the Chronology" by James Randy Dunavan                    available from Jeep71@att.net     Jean Gerbaut, was of a military sect, likely 3rd generation Swede re-located in Northern France. It's obvious that Jarboe had military bearing and likely found his way to Southern England, perhaps under the alias of John Parks. With-in time, from England, he likely secured, by hire, or contract passage to Barbados (no record found in Barbados of the name Jarboe).  From the Islands Jarboe, found himself in VA, and without much means. It is likely Williams & Jarboe provided services against the Indians, while in VA. They key to find Jarboe's transport information my just lay with William Evans, of which no record of entry found on him either.   For nowl, the record is - No transported record has been uncovered under the name Jarboe.  My pocket book was lighten considerably searching out Jarboe entry to VA.   Randy Dunavan   Longview, Texas   ________________________________ From: "EPERRY4616@aol.com" <EPERRY4616@aol.com> To: MDSTMARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:48:30 PM Subject: [MDSTMARY] Back to John Jarboe again   Here's the story:     John JARBOE was born in 1619 in Dijon, France. He came  to the colony of York, Virginia about 1640. During the Claiborne and Ingles  rebellion of 1645 and 46 in Maryland. Against Lord Baltimore, Leonard Calvert  went to York, Virginia to seek refuge and amass a force to regain his power in  Maryland.     He enlisted several men, too which were Col. William  Evans and John JARBOE, who was with him in York and Kicotan, VA. ( Kicotan is  now Elizabeth City ) .  John immigrated to Maryland as apart of the  militia. With an promise of 100 acres of land for his services. ( Being  French  in a British Crown Colony, he was considered a alien and not  allowed to own land by law) . There are several documented court appearances by  John, trying to gain title to the promised 100 acres of land . Here are the questions: 1) Where's the proof? 2) What ship did John Jarboe arrive on? Here's a deed mentioning William Evans -- deceased. Bacon, Nathaniel, Col. Publication  26 October 1666.  Location: York County. VIRGINIA Description: 25 acres according to the  ancient bounds. Escheat land. Formerly granted to William Evans,  decesed.  Source: va Land Office Patents No. 6, 1666-1679 (pt.1 &  2 p.1-692), p. 6 (Reel 6). The above cannot be the same William Evans who left a will in St. Mary's  County. Help. **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDSTMARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message