Thanks Linda, On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Linda Reno <[email protected]> wrote: > Randy, > > I have her as Charlotte M. A. (or E. A.) Hayden, daughter of Ignatius Hayden > and Angeline Delahay whose mother was Margaret Abell, sister of Mary Abell > below. Alexander Abell was Charlotte's cousin--son of John Abell (brother of > Margaret and Mary Abell). > > Will of Mary Abell, 4/19/1855 (sic) probated 1/19/1858.  After expenses, the > balance between my brother Jo. Abell & sister, Betsy Norris. 1/2 negro Nane. > Bed to Charlette E. A. Hayden dau. of Ign. Hayden. Other furniture to > brother, Jo. Abell. Witn: George W. Richardson & son, Joseph Spalding. > (Courtesy, Tom Jennings). > > William Hayden, father of Stephen William, died 5/30/1865. > > I'm not showing any relationship to James Robert Higgs. > > Linda Reno > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of C Greenwell > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:07 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Abells and Haydens > > Hi folks, > > I am looking at the following land transactions and am wonder if > Charllotte E. Hayden (b. 10 Mar 1845) who married William Steven > Hayden (b. 8 Nov 1841) on 17 May 1866 was really named Charlotte E. > Abell.  My reasoning for this is that in one of the land transactions > her name is given as Charlotte E. A. Hayden.  Also, Alexander A. Abell > (b. 15 April 1815) who married Lucerita M. Hayden (b. 1834) and his > children deeded a piece of property to her which belonged to William > Hayden (b. 1803) the father of Lucretia M. Hayden and William Steven > Hayden. So, if she were married to William Steven Hayden, who already > owned 1/2 of this property, why would Alexander A. Abell deed the > other 1/2 to her and not Stephen since Stephen and Luceritta were the > siblings of William? > > Anyway here are the deatils for the land transactions. Does anyone > knows who the parents are for Charlotte E.A. Hayden. Also, I have > William Hayden as deceased on 30 May 1865 and the deed implies that he > recently died.  Do I have the wrong death date for him? And what would > be the relationship between Charlotte E. A. Hayden and James Robert > Higgs? > >  I would appreciate any help to understand this. > > Thanks > Randy > > === > Deed JFF12-463, 21 April 1891.  Alexander A. Abell and his children by > Lucerita M. Hayden (deceased), daughter of William Hayden (deceased), > Mary Inez Abell Hebb and the husband John Benjamin Hebb, Stephen A. > Abell, Flora J. Abell, and William Henry Abell.  Where William Hayden > died intestate leaving 2 living heirs, Lucerita M. Hayden and W. > Stephen Hayden, which Lucerita is now deceased.   For the sumn of $285 > grant unto Charlotte E. Hayden, wife of William Steven Hayden title to > their 1/2 share of the parcel known as Goldsboroughs Race, located in > the 6th district, about 160A.  This land was conveyed to William > Hayden by Bennent Stone and wife and Teresa Simms (JH11-479), 12 Nov > 1839,  where William Stephen Hayden currently resides. > > Mortgage, JFF12-464, 5 May 1891, W. Stephen Hayden and Charlotte E. > Hayden, his wife, indebted to James F. Abell for the sum oif $153 for > 160A, known as Goldsboroughs Race. > (Note: James Franklin Abell was the son of Enoch Booth Abell and Mary > Ann Harriet Norris) > > 18 April 1896, JJG 3 -0422 William S. and Charlotte E. A. Hayden give > James Robert Higgs a deed in trust for his children, Roxie M., Flossy > G., and Jamed Dudley,  for part of a tract of land named Goldsbrough > Race, 20A, on the road leading to Leonardtown, 6th District, adjoining > the Wible Shop.  This land was granted to Charlotte E. A. Hayden wife > of Stephen Hayden by Alexander Abell et al., JFF 12 - 463. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nelson Co Ky Bonds, Marriages & Consents 1801-1816 Joseph Fogle & Margaret Clarke Bond: 14 Apr 1801 M: 14 Dec 1801 (diff in dates) Signed bond: Joseph Clarke Both over 21 years Married by S T Badin, from Marriage Register ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas L. Bohan" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:13:33 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Margaret Clark Father Badin was one of the founders of Notre Dame University, in 1842, I believe.  Where did the marriage of Margaret Clark take place? My grgrgrandmother, Monica Brown, wed her first cousin B B Reynolds near Bardstown in 1813. Thomas L Bohan Peaks Island, Maine 207 766 2483 (h) 207 766 5184 (w) On May 12, 2011, at 8:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I have discovered some more clues about Margaret Clark while researching in > Kentucky. I have included the old information with the new. > > Margaret Clarke married Joseph Fogle 14 April 1801 the bond was posted by   > Joseph Fogle and Joseph Clark they were married by S.T. Badin, a Catholic   > priest. > > From the LaRue County death register for Margaret Fogle died at the age of   > 92 on  5 December 1859 and her parents were Thomas & Mary Clark. Based  on > all the census records in which Margaret is listed she was more than likely   > 86 when she died and not 92. She is head of household in 1850 listed as age > 77  born in Maryland. The 1810-1840 census age groups support the age of 77 > in the  1805 census. > > Form the depositions of a Washington County Circuit court case Fogle v   > Fogle heirs the following is excepted: > > Note the Fogle is Joseph Fogle the Fogle Heirs are the children of Adam   > Fogle who murdered his wife in 1802 and took his own life in the winter of   > 1804. > > > Deposition of Richard Riddle 12 September  1807, packet # 142 > Taken at George McKay’s tavern  in Springfield, Washington County, Kentucky > Saith that he remembers a  conversation taking place between Joseph Fogle > and this deponent at Jonathon  Rineys tavern last October Court day… The > deponent further saith that he heard  the defendant [Joseph Fogle] ask the > plaintiff of his Negro fellow named Jerry  did not frequently carry meat to his > present wife [Margaret Clark]as is now but  was not then married, answer he > did. > Signed Richard B Riddle   > Deposition of Robert H Fogle 27 May 1809,  packet # 142 > Taken at the home of John  Calhoon in Springfield, Washington County, > Kentucky > Questioned by Hammett for  Defendants > …. > Question: Did you hear your  father say that there was meat and whisky > carried away to the widow Clark before  the partnership broke and that he heard > his father say that he help the Negro  man Jerry up with a bag of meat in > the night to carry away on Suter’s horse and  followed after and said whence > it went? > Answer: I heard him my father  say that he believed that there was whiskey > carried away and that he followed  the Negro man Jerry and saw that he > carried the meat to  Lizzy CLARKS   > Question: Did you not see a  pewter pint pot that Joseph Fogle had made a > noise about in the cellar at this  Widow CLARK? > Answer: At the time Joseph  Fogle moved I was helping him and saw the > pewter pot in the cellar that the  noise was made about. > From Webb's Catholicity in  Kentucky p.30 > "Joseph  Clark was one of the most exemplary members of Holy Cross > congregation. He lived  on a farm adjoining that of Phillip Lee, and almost in sight > of Holy Cross  Church" > From  Marion County Deed Book 6,  Page 129 > Martha A Richardson wife of R.  J Richardson purchases land from John Lee. > Land is located next to land RJ  purchased from Joseph CLARK. Note R. J. > Richardson was the grandson of the  Margaret CLARK that married Joseph Fogle. > From the information I have  collected I am reasonably certain that there > is a relationship of Margaret Clark  to the Joseph Clark in the Pottingers > Creek area. And that she was probably  living with the Widow Clark. Based on > when Joseph Fogle would have been courting  Margaret there are one of two > possibilities for the Widow Clark.   > 1. She was a widow prior to  the marriage of Margaret & Joseph in 1801 or > 2. She was a widow prior to  the deposition of Robert Fogle dated 27 May > 1809. > I don't think there is enough  information in the deposition to determine > if the Widow Clark and Lizzy Clark  are the same person.   > The Joseph Clark that died in  1796 doesn't list a Margaret Clark as his > daughter.   > If anyone has any thoughts on  this it would be appreciated. > Thank you > Ann Gilchrest > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe the marriage register states they where married 14 April 1801 and the book is incorrect. On Monday I will double check the register to make sure. Ann In a message dated 13-May-11 20:30:58 Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Nelson Co Ky Bonds, Marriages & Consents 1801-1816 Joseph Fogle & Margaret Clarke Bond: 14 Apr 1801 M: 14 Dec 1801 (diff in dates) Signed bond: Joseph Clarke Both over 21 years Married by S T Badin, from Marriage Register ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas L. Bohan" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:13:33 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Margaret Clark Father Badin was one of the founders of Notre Dame University, in 1842, I believe. Where did the marriage of Margaret Clark take place? My grgrgrandmother, Monica Brown, wed her first cousin B B Reynolds near Bardstown in 1813. Thomas L Bohan Peaks Island, Maine 207 766 2483 (h) 207 766 5184 (w) On May 12, 2011, at 8:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I have discovered some more clues about Margaret Clark while researching in > Kentucky. I have included the old information with the new. > > Margaret Clarke married Joseph Fogle 14 April 1801 the bond was posted by > Joseph Fogle and Joseph Clark they were married by S.T. Badin, a Catholic > priest. > > From the LaRue County death register for Margaret Fogle died at the age of > 92 on 5 December 1859 and her parents were Thomas & Mary Clark. Based on > all the census records in which Margaret is listed she was more than likely > 86 when she died and not 92. She is head of household in 1850 listed as age > 77 born in Maryland. The 1810-1840 census age groups support the age of 77 > in the 1805 census. > > Form the depositions of a Washington County Circuit court case Fogle v > Fogle heirs the following is excepted: > > Note the Fogle is Joseph Fogle the Fogle Heirs are the children of Adam > Fogle who murdered his wife in 1802 and took his own life in the winter of > 1804. > > > Deposition of Richard Riddle 12 September 1807, packet # 142 > Taken at George McKay’s tavern in Springfield, Washington County, Kentucky > Saith that he remembers a conversation taking place between Joseph Fogle > and this deponent at Jonathon Rineys tavern last October Court day… The > deponent further saith that he heard the defendant [Joseph Fogle] ask the > plaintiff of his Negro fellow named Jerry did not frequently carry meat to his > present wife [Margaret Clark]as is now but was not then married, answer he > did. > Signed Richard B Riddle > Deposition of Robert H Fogle 27 May 1809, packet # 142 > Taken at the home of John Calhoon in Springfield, Washington County, > Kentucky > Questioned by Hammett for Defendants > …. > Question: Did you hear your father say that there was meat and whisky > carried away to the widow Clark before the partnership broke and that he heard > his father say that he help the Negro man Jerry up with a bag of meat in > the night to carry away on Suter’s horse and followed after and said whence > it went? > Answer: I heard him my father say that he believed that there was whiskey > carried away and that he followed the Negro man Jerry and saw that he > carried the meat to Lizzy CLARKS > Question: Did you not see a pewter pint pot that Joseph Fogle had made a > noise about in the cellar at this Widow CLARK? > Answer: At the time Joseph Fogle moved I was helping him and saw the > pewter pot in the cellar that the noise was made about. > From Webb's Catholicity in Kentucky p.30 > "Joseph Clark was one of the most exemplary members of Holy Cross > congregation. He lived on a farm adjoining that of Phillip Lee, and almost in sight > of Holy Cross Church" > From Marion County Deed Book 6, Page 129 > Martha A Richardson wife of R. J Richardson purchases land from John Lee. > Land is located next to land RJ purchased from Joseph CLARK. Note R. J. > Richardson was the grandson of the Margaret CLARK that married Joseph Fogle. > From the information I have collected I am reasonably certain that there > is a relationship of Margaret Clark to the Joseph Clark in the Pottingers > Creek area. And that she was probably living with the Widow Clark. Based on > when Joseph Fogle would have been courting Margaret there are one of two > possibilities for the Widow Clark. > 1. She was a widow prior to the marriage of Margaret & Joseph in 1801 or > 2. She was a widow prior to the deposition of Robert Fogle dated 27 May > 1809. > I don't think there is enough information in the deposition to determine > if the Widow Clark and Lizzy Clark are the same person. > The Joseph Clark that died in 1796 doesn't list a Margaret Clark as his > daughter. > If anyone has any thoughts on this it would be appreciated. > Thank you > Ann Gilchrest > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thomas, Was Monica Brown Margaret's first cousin? And if so who where Monica's parents? Ann In a message dated 13-May-11 19:39:41 Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Father Badin was one of the founders of Notre Dame University, in 1842, I believe. Where did the marriage of Margaret Clark take place? My grgrgrandmother, Monica Brown, wed her first cousin B B Reynolds near Bardstown in 1813. Thomas L Bohan Peaks Island, Maine 207 766 2483 (h) 207 766 5184 (w) On May 12, 2011, at 8:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I have discovered some more clues about Margaret Clark while researching in > Kentucky. I have included the old information with the new. > > Margaret Clarke married Joseph Fogle 14 April 1801 the bond was posted by > Joseph Fogle and Joseph Clark they were married by S.T. Badin, a Catholic > priest. > > From the LaRue County death register for Margaret Fogle died at the age of > 92 on 5 December 1859 and her parents were Thomas & Mary Clark. Based on > all the census records in which Margaret is listed she was more than likely > 86 when she died and not 92. She is head of household in 1850 listed as age > 77 born in Maryland. The 1810-1840 census age groups support the age of 77 > in the 1805 census. > > Form the depositions of a Washington County Circuit court case Fogle v > Fogle heirs the following is excepted: > > Note the Fogle is Joseph Fogle the Fogle Heirs are the children of Adam > Fogle who murdered his wife in 1802 and took his own life in the winter of > 1804. > > > Deposition of Richard Riddle 12 September 1807, packet # 142 > Taken at George McKay’s tavern in Springfield, Washington County, Kentucky > Saith that he remembers a conversation taking place between Joseph Fogle > and this deponent at Jonathon Rineys tavern last October Court day… The > deponent further saith that he heard the defendant [Joseph Fogle] ask the > plaintiff of his Negro fellow named Jerry did not frequently carry meat to his > present wife [Margaret Clark]as is now but was not then married, answer he > did. > Signed Richard B Riddle > Deposition of Robert H Fogle 27 May 1809, packet # 142 > Taken at the home of John Calhoon in Springfield, Washington County, > Kentucky > Questioned by Hammett for Defendants > …. > Question: Did you hear your father say that there was meat and whisky > carried away to the widow Clark before the partnership broke and that he heard > his father say that he help the Negro man Jerry up with a bag of meat in > the night to carry away on Suter’s horse and followed after and said whence > it went? > Answer: I heard him my father say that he believed that there was whiskey > carried away and that he followed the Negro man Jerry and saw that he > carried the meat to Lizzy CLARKS > Question: Did you not see a pewter pint pot that Joseph Fogle had made a > noise about in the cellar at this Widow CLARK? > Answer: At the time Joseph Fogle moved I was helping him and saw the > pewter pot in the cellar that the noise was made about. > From Webb's Catholicity in Kentucky p.30 > "Joseph Clark was one of the most exemplary members of Holy Cross > congregation. He lived on a farm adjoining that of Phillip Lee, and almost in sight > of Holy Cross Church" > From Marion County Deed Book 6, Page 129 > Martha A Richardson wife of R. J Richardson purchases land from John Lee. > Land is located next to land RJ purchased from Joseph CLARK. Note R. J. > Richardson was the grandson of the Margaret CLARK that married Joseph Fogle. > From the information I have collected I am reasonably certain that there > is a relationship of Margaret Clark to the Joseph Clark in the Pottingers > Creek area. And that she was probably living with the Widow Clark. Based on > when Joseph Fogle would have been courting Margaret there are one of two > possibilities for the Widow Clark. > 1. She was a widow prior to the marriage of Margaret & Joseph in 1801 or > 2. She was a widow prior to the deposition of Robert Fogle dated 27 May > 1809. > I don't think there is enough information in the deposition to determine > if the Widow Clark and Lizzy Clark are the same person. > The Joseph Clark that died in 1796 doesn't list a Margaret Clark as his > daughter. > If anyone has any thoughts on this it would be appreciated. > Thank you > Ann Gilchrest > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Randy, I have her as Charlotte M. A. (or E. A.) Hayden, daughter of Ignatius Hayden and Angeline Delahay whose mother was Margaret Abell, sister of Mary Abell below. Alexander Abell was Charlotte's cousin--son of John Abell (brother of Margaret and Mary Abell). Will of Mary Abell, 4/19/1855 (sic) probated 1/19/1858. After expenses, the balance between my brother Jo. Abell & sister, Betsy Norris. 1/2 negro Nane. Bed to Charlette E. A. Hayden dau. of Ign. Hayden. Other furniture to brother, Jo. Abell. Witn: George W. Richardson & son, Joseph Spalding. (Courtesy, Tom Jennings). William Hayden, father of Stephen William, died 5/30/1865. I'm not showing any relationship to James Robert Higgs. Linda Reno -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of C Greenwell Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:07 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [MDSTMARY] Abells and Haydens Hi folks, I am looking at the following land transactions and am wonder if Charllotte E. Hayden (b. 10 Mar 1845) who married William Steven Hayden (b. 8 Nov 1841) on 17 May 1866 was really named Charlotte E. Abell. My reasoning for this is that in one of the land transactions her name is given as Charlotte E. A. Hayden. Also, Alexander A. Abell (b. 15 April 1815) who married Lucerita M. Hayden (b. 1834) and his children deeded a piece of property to her which belonged to William Hayden (b. 1803) the father of Lucretia M. Hayden and William Steven Hayden. So, if she were married to William Steven Hayden, who already owned 1/2 of this property, why would Alexander A. Abell deed the other 1/2 to her and not Stephen since Stephen and Luceritta were the siblings of William? Anyway here are the deatils for the land transactions. Does anyone knows who the parents are for Charlotte E.A. Hayden. Also, I have William Hayden as deceased on 30 May 1865 and the deed implies that he recently died. Do I have the wrong death date for him? And what would be the relationship between Charlotte E. A. Hayden and James Robert Higgs? I would appreciate any help to understand this. Thanks Randy === Deed JFF12-463, 21 April 1891. Alexander A. Abell and his children by Lucerita M. Hayden (deceased), daughter of William Hayden (deceased), Mary Inez Abell Hebb and the husband John Benjamin Hebb, Stephen A. Abell, Flora J. Abell, and William Henry Abell. Where William Hayden died intestate leaving 2 living heirs, Lucerita M. Hayden and W. Stephen Hayden, which Lucerita is now deceased. For the sumn of $285 grant unto Charlotte E. Hayden, wife of William Steven Hayden title to their 1/2 share of the parcel known as Goldsboroughs Race, located in the 6th district, about 160A. This land was conveyed to William Hayden by Bennent Stone and wife and Teresa Simms (JH11-479), 12 Nov 1839, where William Stephen Hayden currently resides. Mortgage, JFF12-464, 5 May 1891, W. Stephen Hayden and Charlotte E. Hayden, his wife, indebted to James F. Abell for the sum oif $153 for 160A, known as Goldsboroughs Race. (Note: James Franklin Abell was the son of Enoch Booth Abell and Mary Ann Harriet Norris) 18 April 1896, JJG 3 -0422 William S. and Charlotte E. A. Hayden give James Robert Higgs a deed in trust for his children, Roxie M., Flossy G., and Jamed Dudley, for part of a tract of land named Goldsbrough Race, 20A, on the road leading to Leonardtown, 6th District, adjoining the Wible Shop. This land was granted to Charlotte E. A. Hayden wife of Stephen Hayden by Alexander Abell et al., JFF 12 - 463. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks, I am looking at the following land transactions and am wonder if Charllotte E. Hayden (b. 10 Mar 1845) who married William Steven Hayden (b. 8 Nov 1841) on 17 May 1866 was really named Charlotte E. Abell. My reasoning for this is that in one of the land transactions her name is given as Charlotte E. A. Hayden. Also, Alexander A. Abell (b. 15 April 1815) who married Lucerita M. Hayden (b. 1834) and his children deeded a piece of property to her which belonged to William Hayden (b. 1803) the father of Lucretia M. Hayden and William Steven Hayden. So, if she were married to William Steven Hayden, who already owned 1/2 of this property, why would Alexander A. Abell deed the other 1/2 to her and not Stephen since Stephen and Luceritta were the siblings of William? Anyway here are the deatils for the land transactions. Does anyone knows who the parents are for Charlotte E.A. Hayden. Also, I have William Hayden as deceased on 30 May 1865 and the deed implies that he recently died. Do I have the wrong death date for him? And what would be the relationship between Charlotte E. A. Hayden and James Robert Higgs? I would appreciate any help to understand this. Thanks Randy === Deed JFF12-463, 21 April 1891. Alexander A. Abell and his children by Lucerita M. Hayden (deceased), daughter of William Hayden (deceased), Mary Inez Abell Hebb and the husband John Benjamin Hebb, Stephen A. Abell, Flora J. Abell, and William Henry Abell. Where William Hayden died intestate leaving 2 living heirs, Lucerita M. Hayden and W. Stephen Hayden, which Lucerita is now deceased. For the sumn of $285 grant unto Charlotte E. Hayden, wife of William Steven Hayden title to their 1/2 share of the parcel known as Goldsboroughs Race, located in the 6th district, about 160A. This land was conveyed to William Hayden by Bennent Stone and wife and Teresa Simms (JH11-479), 12 Nov 1839, where William Stephen Hayden currently resides. Mortgage, JFF12-464, 5 May 1891, W. Stephen Hayden and Charlotte E. Hayden, his wife, indebted to James F. Abell for the sum oif $153 for 160A, known as Goldsboroughs Race. (Note: James Franklin Abell was the son of Enoch Booth Abell and Mary Ann Harriet Norris) 18 April 1896, JJG 3 -0422 William S. and Charlotte E. A. Hayden give James Robert Higgs a deed in trust for his children, Roxie M., Flossy G., and Jamed Dudley, for part of a tract of land named Goldsbrough Race, 20A, on the road leading to Leonardtown, 6th District, adjoining the Wible Shop. This land was granted to Charlotte E. A. Hayden wife of Stephen Hayden by Alexander Abell et al., JFF 12 - 463.

Hi, An indentured servant is not the same as a slave. Most indentured servants were white Europeans whose passage to America was paid by someone else, and in return, they owed typically about 7 years of service to that person after they arrived. I am sure some ran away. My ancestor's family tried to extend his indenture for 7 more years, and he took them to court and won his freedom instantly, even before his original indenture was fulfilled. Mary Kraeszig (descendant of an indentured servant who wound up a very wealthy landowner in Maryland) [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jslocal602 > Surnames: Dowling Mattingly Edwards > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/2436.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > The name Stouton or Stourton Edwards is interesting to me. The name is definitely from St. Mary's Co., MD. He ran tobbacco farms. There is a 1745 ad for a St. Mary Co., MD runaway indenture that my be ancestor. The Maryland Gazette ad was paid by Stourton Edwards. > > I found my way here researching Mary Jane Mattingly b. 1810-1812 in Washington Co., KY. She married James Dowling b. 1799 in Washington Co. Their children's baptismal records are at St. Rose & Holy Name of Mary. > > How ironic would it be if the grandsons of the slave and the overseer ended up marrying into a common Mattingly family? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jslocal602 Surnames: Dowling Mattingly Edwards Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/2436.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The name Stouton or Stourton Edwards is interesting to me. The name is definitely from St. Mary's Co., MD. He ran tobbacco farms. There is a 1745 ad for a St. Mary Co., MD runaway indenture that my be ancestor. The Maryland Gazette ad was paid by Stourton Edwards. I found my way here researching Mary Jane Mattingly b. 1810-1812 in Washington Co., KY. She married James Dowling b. 1799 in Washington Co. Their children's baptismal records are at St. Rose & Holy Name of Mary. How ironic would it be if the grandsons of the slave and the overseer ended up marrying into a common Mattingly family? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: terrieb14 Surnames: Greenwell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/1199.1220.1228.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so very much for your email. I am very anxious to see the photos. Please email me your contact info. Thanks, Cousin! Terrie [email protected] Arlington, TX Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Father Badin was one of the founders of Notre Dame University, in 1842, I believe. Where did the marriage of Margaret Clark take place? My grgrgrandmother, Monica Brown, wed her first cousin B B Reynolds near Bardstown in 1813. Thomas L Bohan Peaks Island, Maine 207 766 2483 (h) 207 766 5184 (w) On May 12, 2011, at 8:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I have discovered some more clues about Margaret Clark while researching in > Kentucky. I have included the old information with the new. > > Margaret Clarke married Joseph Fogle 14 April 1801 the bond was posted by > Joseph Fogle and Joseph Clark they were married by S.T. Badin, a Catholic > priest. > > From the LaRue County death register for Margaret Fogle died at the age of > 92 on 5 December 1859 and her parents were Thomas & Mary Clark. Based on > all the census records in which Margaret is listed she was more than likely > 86 when she died and not 92. She is head of household in 1850 listed as age > 77 born in Maryland. The 1810-1840 census age groups support the age of 77 > in the 1805 census. > > Form the depositions of a Washington County Circuit court case Fogle v > Fogle heirs the following is excepted: > > Note the Fogle is Joseph Fogle the Fogle Heirs are the children of Adam > Fogle who murdered his wife in 1802 and took his own life in the winter of > 1804. > > > Deposition of Richard Riddle 12 September 1807, packet # 142 > Taken at George McKay’s tavern in Springfield, Washington County, Kentucky > Saith that he remembers a conversation taking place between Joseph Fogle > and this deponent at Jonathon Rineys tavern last October Court day… The > deponent further saith that he heard the defendant [Joseph Fogle] ask the > plaintiff of his Negro fellow named Jerry did not frequently carry meat to his > present wife [Margaret Clark]as is now but was not then married, answer he > did. > Signed Richard B Riddle > Deposition of Robert H Fogle 27 May 1809, packet # 142 > Taken at the home of John Calhoon in Springfield, Washington County, > Kentucky > Questioned by Hammett for Defendants > …. > Question: Did you hear your father say that there was meat and whisky > carried away to the widow Clark before the partnership broke and that he heard > his father say that he help the Negro man Jerry up with a bag of meat in > the night to carry away on Suter’s horse and followed after and said whence > it went? > Answer: I heard him my father say that he believed that there was whiskey > carried away and that he followed the Negro man Jerry and saw that he > carried the meat to Lizzy CLARKS > Question: Did you not see a pewter pint pot that Joseph Fogle had made a > noise about in the cellar at this Widow CLARK? > Answer: At the time Joseph Fogle moved I was helping him and saw the > pewter pot in the cellar that the noise was made about. > From Webb's Catholicity in Kentucky p.30 > "Joseph Clark was one of the most exemplary members of Holy Cross > congregation. He lived on a farm adjoining that of Phillip Lee, and almost in sight > of Holy Cross Church" > From Marion County Deed Book 6, Page 129 > Martha A Richardson wife of R. J Richardson purchases land from John Lee. > Land is located next to land RJ purchased from Joseph CLARK. Note R. J. > Richardson was the grandson of the Margaret CLARK that married Joseph Fogle. > From the information I have collected I am reasonably certain that there > is a relationship of Margaret Clark to the Joseph Clark in the Pottingers > Creek area. And that she was probably living with the Widow Clark. Based on > when Joseph Fogle would have been courting Margaret there are one of two > possibilities for the Widow Clark. > 1. She was a widow prior to the marriage of Margaret & Joseph in 1801 or > 2. She was a widow prior to the deposition of Robert Fogle dated 27 May > 1809. > I don't think there is enough information in the deposition to determine > if the Widow Clark and Lizzy Clark are the same person. > The Joseph Clark that died in 1796 doesn't list a Margaret Clark as his > daughter. > If anyone has any thoughts on this it would be appreciated. > Thank you > Ann Gilchrest > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have discovered some more clues about Margaret Clark while researching in Kentucky. I have included the old information with the new. Margaret Clarke married Joseph Fogle 14 April 1801 the bond was posted by Joseph Fogle and Joseph Clark they were married by S.T. Badin, a Catholic priest. >From the LaRue County death register for Margaret Fogle died at the age of 92 on 5 December 1859 and her parents were Thomas & Mary Clark. Based on all the census records in which Margaret is listed she was more than likely 86 when she died and not 92. She is head of household in 1850 listed as age 77 born in Maryland. The 1810-1840 census age groups support the age of 77 in the 1805 census. Form the depositions of a Washington County Circuit court case Fogle v Fogle heirs the following is excepted: Note the Fogle is Joseph Fogle the Fogle Heirs are the children of Adam Fogle who murdered his wife in 1802 and took his own life in the winter of 1804. Deposition of Richard Riddle 12 September 1807, packet # 142 Taken at George McKay’s tavern in Springfield, Washington County, Kentucky Saith that he remembers a conversation taking place between Joseph Fogle and this deponent at Jonathon Rineys tavern last October Court day… The deponent further saith that he heard the defendant [Joseph Fogle] ask the plaintiff of his Negro fellow named Jerry did not frequently carry meat to his present wife [Margaret Clark]as is now but was not then married, answer he did. Signed Richard B Riddle Deposition of Robert H Fogle 27 May 1809, packet # 142 Taken at the home of John Calhoon in Springfield, Washington County, Kentucky Questioned by Hammett for Defendants …. Question: Did you hear your father say that there was meat and whisky carried away to the widow Clark before the partnership broke and that he heard his father say that he help the Negro man Jerry up with a bag of meat in the night to carry away on Suter’s horse and followed after and said whence it went? Answer: I heard him my father say that he believed that there was whiskey carried away and that he followed the Negro man Jerry and saw that he carried the meat to Lizzy CLARKS Question: Did you not see a pewter pint pot that Joseph Fogle had made a noise about in the cellar at this Widow CLARK? Answer: At the time Joseph Fogle moved I was helping him and saw the pewter pot in the cellar that the noise was made about. >From Webb's Catholicity in Kentucky p.30 "Joseph Clark was one of the most exemplary members of Holy Cross congregation. He lived on a farm adjoining that of Phillip Lee, and almost in sight of Holy Cross Church" >From Marion County Deed Book 6, Page 129 Martha A Richardson wife of R. J Richardson purchases land from John Lee. Land is located next to land RJ purchased from Joseph CLARK. Note R. J. Richardson was the grandson of the Margaret CLARK that married Joseph Fogle. >From the information I have collected I am reasonably certain that there is a relationship of Margaret Clark to the Joseph Clark in the Pottingers Creek area. And that she was probably living with the Widow Clark. Based on when Joseph Fogle would have been courting Margaret there are one of two possibilities for the Widow Clark. 1. She was a widow prior to the marriage of Margaret & Joseph in 1801 or 2. She was a widow prior to the deposition of Robert Fogle dated 27 May 1809. I don't think there is enough information in the deposition to determine if the Widow Clark and Lizzy Clark are the same person. The Joseph Clark that died in 1796 doesn't list a Margaret Clark as his daughter. If anyone has any thoughts on this it would be appreciated. Thank you Ann Gilchrest

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GayleLonderee Surnames: Howard, Cissell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/4525/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have any more information on Basil Howard, another one of my many stray St. Mary's Howards? This is what I have. The Maryland Militia in the Revolutionary War, S. Eugene Clements and F. Edward Wright, Family Line Pub., Silver Spring, MD, 1987 pp. 209-215 [1777?] ST. MARY'S COUNTY Return of St. Mary's County Militia by Col. J. Jordan An Account of the able bodyed male white persons from 16 to 50 years of age in St. Marys Coty as returned to me by the men appointed for that purpose - Upper Battn. Of Militia 770 men Lower Battn. Of do. 777 Total 1547 On examination I find the above return to be very erroneous, many men above fifty and some not sixteen, others not able bodyed. On the hole I do not believe that we have more than twelve hundred effective, it has not been in my power to ascertain the number certainly. Richd. Barnes. [Howards on list - different lines are from different paragraphs in the text] Leonard Howard.Peter Howard (Neck).Austin Howard.Peregrine Howard.Charles Howard. .George Howard.Thomas Howard.Edward Howard (scratched through). .Basil Howard. .Joseph Howard.James Howard. .Peter Howard. .Joseph Howard (of Ben). .Edmond Howard.Jonathan Howard. .Clem Howard.Thos. Howard. Catholic Families of Southern Maryland, page 19 Baptisms, St. Francis Xavier 31 Jul 1778 female Cecil of Ignatius and wife - sponsors: Basil Howard, Rachel Cecil (I'm assuming the Cecils above are really Cissells. There have been several marriages between Howard & Cissell. There was an Ignatius Cissell from St. Mary's who died in Kentucky.) 1790 United States Federal Census Name: Basil Howard Township: Unknown Township County: St Marys State: Maryland Number of Free White Males 16 and Over: 2 Number of Free White Females: 3 Number of Slaves : 8 Number of Household Members: 13 I don't see Basil on the Oath of Fidelity list, which is puzzling, and he doesn't appear on the 1793, 1794 tax lists, 1794 militia, or any other censuses. My 3rd great-grandfather was Basil P Howard, so I feel as if I have some sort of connection to the one above. Thank you, Gayle Howard Londeree [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you for your help. Bonnie Treon > Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 22:48:55 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? > > > > NotesI have: > > Anthony Neale, son of Capt. James Neale & Anna Marie Gill (married 7/1682) > > Anthony's 1st wife: Eliz. Roswell, married 1680-81, dau. of Wm.Roswell & Emma ___Johnson, widow of > > Wm. Johnson. > > Anthony married 2nd: Eliz. Diggs about 1702. > > William Roswell's will: 9/17/1694; probated 5/14/1675, left his grandson, Anthony Neale 265 acres of "William's Folly". > > Anthony's children by Eliz. Roswell: Raphael, Roswell, Anthony, Thomas & James > > Anthony's children by Mary Eliz. Diggs: Henry, Edward, Mary, C harles, Bennett > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mcvoy- treon" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:58:16 AM > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? > > > Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? > > I had in my notes that Elizabeth Williams, wife of Nathaniel Suite had owned that when her sister passed away. > > But when cleaning out my FTM, I also had a note that Anthony Neale left "William's Folly" to his son, Raphael. > > Does anyone know more about this land and how Anthony Neale got ownership? > > Thanks. > > B.Treon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you sooooooo...much!!! Bonnie Treon > Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 18:16:00 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? > > Anthony Neale receives other land from Wm Rosewell as part of a marriage > agreement to his daughter Elizabeth. as mentioned earlier, Wm Roswell's 1695 > will gives William's Folly to his grandson Anthony Neale Jr. > > > Don't know how the orginal tract was conveyed from John Williams to Wm Roswell, > but John Williams' son or brother Thomas Williams d. 1713 had a piece of > William's Folly as mentioned in his 1713 will. Thomas' daughter Elizabeth > Williams married Nathaniel Suit of Newport Hundred area and she mentions > William's Folly in her 1773 will. > > Anthony Neale Sr's 1723 will also mentions William's Folly which was given to > his son Raphael. Anthony Neale Jr d. 1722. There is no further mention of the > Williams Folly land in Raphael records or in his 1743 will. > > the only found conveyance for this land is the 260 Acres – James Muncaster from > William Cooper, 10 Nov 1748....and James Muncaster mentions William's Folly in > his 1753 will. > > there may be another moiety relationship which will help explain how the > Williams family also held a part of the same tract as the Neale's during the > same time. > > ==== > Charles County Maryland Land Record Liber Z#2, 1744-1753; Page 296. At the > request of James Muncaster, the following deed was recorded on Dec 2, 1748. > Nov 10, 1748 from William Cooper of CC, planter, and Mary Ann, his wife, to > James Muncaster of CC, for 30 £ sterling money of England and divers other good > causes, a tract of land called William Folly, lying in CC, and bounded by the > Little Dam a little above the path that goes from Mr. Hanson's to Nanjemy [Cr], > containing and laid out for about 260 acres. Signed - William Cooper, Mary Ann > (+ her mark) Cooper. Wit - Thos Stone, Allen Davies. Said Mary Ann Cooper > released her dower. > === > Will of Thomas Williams, no county, made 3/1/1712-1713; no probate date given. > Son: Thomas Short, personalty. > Son: John Williams, personalty and plantation at the end of five years; until > then to be in the care of son, Thomas Short. > > Exec.: Jane Ellis, dwelling plantation "Williams' Folly". > Wit.: Thomas Burch, Robert Machon, Robert Saint Claire. > > === > Charles County Circuit Court Liber K, Page 132 > 10 Oct 1681; Marriage agreement between James Neale, Gent. and Wm. Rosewell of > St. Mary's Co.; intended marriage of Anthony Neale, s/o James Neale, and > Elizabeth Rosewell, d/o William Rosewell; one month after the ceremony James > Neale to convey one equal half of all his manor lands called Wolleston Manor > patented for 2,000 acres; also 300 acres adjoining said manor; also 200 acres > patented by Neale adjoining Gills Land; for the use of Anthony Neale for life; > after that to his intended wife Elizabeth for her natural life after that for > the use of the heirs of the body of the said Elizabeth; also 3 Negroes, two > white hand, 20 head of cattle, ten ewes, a ram; Neale to be paid 5,000# of > tobacco and 10 barrels of corn yearly for the term of his life and that of his > wife; Rosewell to deliver to Anthony Neale one Negro man and his wife with his > said daughter on or before Christmas day next and will pay Anthony 20,000# of > tobacco on 10 Oct 1682 and 20,000# tobacco on 10 Oct 1683; /s/ James Neale, Wm. > Rosewell; wit. Josh. Pile, Tho. Gmnwin > > === Contributed by Ralph D. Smith > Mar. 18, 1773 - The Charles County, Md. will of Elizabeth Suit [widow of > Nathaniel Suit, Sr.], probated Mar. 24, 1773, reads as follows: > > "To my beloved son-in-law Abraham Barron that parcel of land lying in Charles > County in the White Oak Swamp called 'Williamses Folly,' formerly the property > of Thomas Williams and by him devised to a certain Jean Ellis during her natural > life, and after her decease has fallen to me by heirship and has never been > acknowledged by me to any person but is in possession of Thomas Burch among the > other land of the said Williams. I give all the said land that was given to Jean > Ellis to the said Abraham Barron and his heirs and assigns forever." > > Executor: Abraham Barron. > Signed Elizabeth Suit (makes her mark "C"). > Witnesses: Richard Burch, John Bowling, Ann Tubb. > Richard Burch gave Thomas Suit the heir at law notice to be present at the > probate and he refused to attend. > > Sources:(1) Charles County, Md. Wills, 1767-1777," p. 165, and (2) Maryland > Calendar of Wills, Vol. 15, p. 48. > > Comment: Abraham Barron was m. to Elizabeth's dau. Catherine Suit. Source (2) > reads the surname as "Burk" but "Burch" as shown in source (1) is clearly > correct. There is no inventory or administration account for Elizabeth. > === > MUNCASTER, JAMES, Charles Co. 20 Oct 1752; 7 May 1753 > To son James Barber Muncaster, land I now live on called "Walthons (?) Purchase" > but that: my wife, Catharine, to hold the plantation I now dwell on with one > moiety of the aforesaid tract called "Wallsons Purchase" which moiety desire my > friend Richard Harrison to bound and lay off. > To son Joseph Barber, tract called "William's Foly" which I bought of William > Cooper Senr, > To son James Barber Muncaster, Negro girl Bess. > To wife Catherine, use of slaves and the slaves after her death to be divided > between children: Mary, Anna Bella and Joseph Muncaster, > That residue of estate be equally divided between wife Catherine and children: > Mary, Annabella and Joseph Muncaster, > Wits Richard Harrison, Catherine Watson, Saml, Moore, 28. 507. > > The CC Rent rolls are a snapshot of who was in possession of the land in 1696 > when Prince George's county split off. The CC rent rolls shows Anthony Neale Sr. > in possession of Williams Folly in 1696. > > === > 1642-1753 Rent Rolls Charles County, Maryland Hundred - Piccawaxen or Wm&Mary: > Rent Roll page/Sequence: 301-98: WILLIAMS FOLLY: 265 acres; Possession of - 265 > Acres - Neale, Anthony: Surveyed 22 March 1688 for John William: Other notes - > 260 Acres – James Muncaster from William Cooper, 10 Nov 1748. > === > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 6:48:55 PM > Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own > "William's Folly" ? > > > > NotesI have: > > Anthony Neale, son of Capt. James Neale & Anna Marie Gill (married 7/1682) > > Anthony's 1st wife: Eliz. Roswell, married 1680-81, dau. of Wm.Roswell & Emma > ___Johnson, widow of > > > Wm. Johnson. > > Anthony married 2nd: Eliz. Diggs about 1702. > > William Roswell's will: 9/17/1694; probated 5/14/1675, left his grandson, > Anthony Neale 265 acres of "William's Folly". > > > Anthony's children by Eliz. Roswell: Raphael, Roswell, Anthony, Thomas & James > > Anthony's children by Mary Eliz. Diggs: Henry, Edward, Mary, C harles, Bennett > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mcvoy- treon" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:58:16 AM > Subject: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own > "William's Folly" ? > > > > Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? > > I had in my notes that Elizabeth Williams, wife of Nathaniel Suite had owned > that when her sister passed away. > > > But when cleaning out my FTM, I also had a note that Anthony Neale left > "William's Folly" to his son, Raphael. > > > Does anyone know more about this land and how Anthony Neale got ownership? > > Thanks. > > B.Treon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

NotesI have:   Anthony Neale, son of Capt. James Neale & Anna Marie Gill (married 7/1682) Anthony's 1st wife: Eliz. Roswell, married 1680-81, dau. of Wm.Roswell & Emma ___Johnson, widow of Wm. Johnson. Anthony married 2nd: Eliz. Diggs about 1702. William Roswell's will: 9/17/1694; probated 5/14/1675, left his grandson, Anthony Neale 265 acres of "William's Folly". Anthony's children by Eliz. Roswell: Raphael, Roswell, Anthony, Thomas & James Anthony's children by Mary Eliz. Diggs: Henry, Edward, Mary, C harles, Bennett ----- Original Message ----- From: "mcvoy- treon" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:58:16 AM Subject: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? I had in my notes that Elizabeth Williams, wife of Nathaniel Suite had owned that when her sister passed away.   But when cleaning out my FTM, I also had a note that Anthony Neale left "William's Folly" to his son, Raphael. Does anyone know more about this land and how Anthony Neale got ownership? Thanks. B.Treon                                                   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anthony Neale receives other land from Wm Rosewell as part of a marriage agreement to his daughter Elizabeth.  as mentioned earlier, Wm Roswell's 1695 will gives William's Folly to his grandson Anthony Neale Jr.  Don't know how the orginal tract was conveyed from John Williams to Wm Roswell, but John Williams' son or brother Thomas Williams d. 1713 had a piece of William's Folly as mentioned in his 1713 will. Thomas' daughter Elizabeth Williams married Nathaniel Suit of Newport Hundred area and she mentions William's Folly in her 1773 will. Anthony Neale Sr's 1723 will also mentions William's Folly which was given to his son Raphael. Anthony Neale Jr d. 1722. There is no further mention of the Williams Folly land in Raphael records or in his 1743 will. the only found conveyance for this land is the  260 Acres – James Muncaster from William Cooper, 10 Nov 1748....and James Muncaster mentions William's Folly in his 1753 will. there may be another moiety relationship which will help explain how the Williams family also held a part of the same tract as the Neale's during the same time. ==== Charles County Maryland Land Record Liber Z#2, 1744-1753; Page 296. At the request of James Muncaster, the following deed was recorded on Dec 2, 1748. Nov 10, 1748 from William Cooper of CC, planter, and Mary Ann, his wife, to James Muncaster of CC, for 30 £ sterling money of England and divers other good causes, a tract of land called William Folly, lying in CC, and bounded by the Little Dam a little above the path that goes from Mr. Hanson's to Nanjemy [Cr], containing and laid out for about 260 acres. Signed - William Cooper, Mary Ann (+ her mark) Cooper. Wit - Thos Stone, Allen Davies. Said Mary Ann Cooper released her dower. === Will of Thomas Williams, no county, made 3/1/1712-1713; no probate date given.  Son:  Thomas Short, personalty.  Son:  John Williams, personalty and plantation at the end of five years; until then to be in the care of son, Thomas Short.  Exec.: Jane Ellis, dwelling plantation "Williams' Folly". Wit.: Thomas Burch, Robert Machon, Robert Saint Claire. === Charles County Circuit Court  Liber K, Page 132 10 Oct 1681; Marriage agreement between James Neale, Gent. and Wm. Rosewell of St. Mary's Co.; intended marriage of Anthony Neale, s/o James Neale, and Elizabeth Rosewell, d/o William Rosewell; one month after the ceremony James Neale to convey one equal half of all his manor lands called Wolleston Manor patented for 2,000 acres; also 300 acres adjoining said manor; also 200 acres patented by Neale adjoining Gills Land; for the use of Anthony Neale for life; after that to his intended wife Elizabeth for her natural life after that for the use of the heirs of the body of the said Elizabeth; also 3 Negroes, two white hand, 20 head of cattle, ten ewes, a ram; Neale to be paid 5,000# of tobacco and 10 barrels of corn yearly for the term of his life and that of his wife; Rosewell to deliver to Anthony Neale one Negro man and his wife with his said daughter on or before Christmas day next and will pay Anthony 20,000# of tobacco on 10 Oct 1682 and 20,000# tobacco on 10 Oct 1683; /s/ James Neale, Wm. Rosewell; wit. Josh. Pile, Tho. Gmnwin === Contributed by Ralph D. Smith Mar. 18, 1773 - The Charles County, Md. will of Elizabeth Suit [widow of Nathaniel Suit, Sr.], probated Mar. 24, 1773, reads as follows: "To my beloved son-in-law Abraham Barron that parcel of land lying in Charles County in the White Oak Swamp called 'Williamses Folly,' formerly the property of Thomas Williams and by him devised to a certain Jean Ellis during her natural life, and after her decease has fallen to me by heirship and has never been acknowledged by me to any person but is in possession of Thomas Burch among the other land of the said Williams. I give all the said land that was given to Jean Ellis to the said Abraham Barron and his heirs and assigns forever." Executor: Abraham Barron. Signed Elizabeth Suit (makes her mark "C"). Witnesses: Richard Burch, John Bowling, Ann Tubb. Richard Burch gave Thomas Suit the heir at law notice to be present at the probate and he refused to attend. Sources:(1) Charles County, Md. Wills, 1767-1777," p. 165, and (2) Maryland Calendar of Wills, Vol. 15, p. 48. Comment: Abraham Barron was m. to Elizabeth's dau. Catherine Suit. Source (2) reads the surname as "Burk" but "Burch" as shown in source (1) is clearly correct. There is no inventory or administration account for Elizabeth. === MUNCASTER, JAMES, Charles Co.      20 Oct 1752; 7 May 1753 To son James Barber Muncaster, land I now live on called "Walthons (?) Purchase" but that: my wife, Catharine, to hold the plantation I now dwell on with one moiety of the aforesaid tract called "Wallsons Purchase" which moiety desire my friend Richard Harrison to bound and lay off. To son Joseph Barber, tract called "William's Foly" which I bought of William Cooper Senr, To son James Barber Muncaster, Negro girl Bess. To wife Catherine, use of slaves and the slaves after her death to be divided between children: Mary, Anna Bella and Joseph Muncaster, That residue of estate be equally divided between wife Catherine and children: Mary, Annabella and Joseph Muncaster, Wits Richard Harrison, Catherine Watson, Saml, Moore, 28. 507. The CC Rent rolls are a snapshot of who was in possession of the land in 1696 when Prince George's county split off. The CC rent rolls shows Anthony Neale Sr. in possession of Williams Folly in 1696. === 1642-1753 Rent Rolls Charles County, Maryland Hundred - Piccawaxen or Wm&Mary: Rent Roll page/Sequence: 301-98: WILLIAMS FOLLY: 265 acres; Possession of -  265 Acres - Neale, Anthony: Surveyed 22 March 1688 for John William: Other notes - 260 Acres – James Muncaster from William Cooper, 10  Nov 1748. ===   ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 6:48:55 PM Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? NotesI have:   Anthony Neale, son of Capt. James Neale & Anna Marie Gill (married 7/1682) Anthony's 1st wife: Eliz. Roswell, married 1680-81, dau. of Wm.Roswell & Emma ___Johnson, widow of Wm. Johnson. Anthony married 2nd: Eliz. Diggs about 1702. William Roswell's will: 9/17/1694; probated 5/14/1675, left his grandson, Anthony Neale 265 acres of "William's Folly". Anthony's children by Eliz. Roswell: Raphael, Roswell, Anthony, Thomas & James Anthony's children by Mary Eliz. Diggs: Henry, Edward, Mary, C harles, Bennett ----- Original Message ----- From: "mcvoy- treon" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:58:16 AM Subject: [MDSTMARY] Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? I had in my notes that Elizabeth Williams, wife of Nathaniel Suite had owned that when her sister passed away.   But when cleaning out my FTM, I also had a note that Anthony Neale left "William's Folly" to his son, Raphael. Does anyone know more about this land and how Anthony Neale got ownership? Thanks. 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Land question--How did Anthony Neale/Neal come to own "William's Folly" ? I had in my notes that Elizabeth Williams, wife of Nathaniel Suite had owned that when her sister passed away. But when cleaning out my FTM, I also had a note that Anthony Neale left "William's Folly" to his son, Raphael. Does anyone know more about this land and how Anthony Neale got ownership? Thanks. B.Treon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eneale24 Surnames: Neale, Cole, Stewart Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/148.684.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Also Stewart Surnames Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eneale24 Surnames: Neale, Garrett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/148.684/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am also looking for information on the Neale's in St. Mary's County. My grandparents were Lloyd annd Doris Neale. My grandfathers family was from St. Mary's. Many family members migrated to baltimore were my grandparents lived. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Try the court house. There are also 3 printed books, various dates of marriage. The best, Fresco's Marriages & Deaths in SMC 1634-1900. Richard Nelson, Jr. has 1897-1915 & 1915-1940. May still be on sale at SMC Historical Soc.in Leonardtown. Tom On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:42 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: edyhdrawde > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.stmarys/4524/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Where would I go in St. Mary's county to check for old marriage records? I > know in Northampton County, Va. they are kept where new marriage licenses > are registered for. > > I'm planning on visiting there in June. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >