I was putting away my files on the Harrises of Mt. Tirzah and discovered another source you may want to follow up on. This tells about the whole family and may be able to be obtained locally. Chronicles of St. Mary's, Quarterly Magazine of the St. Mary's County Historical Society. Vol 45 Spring 1997 No. 1. p. 189-193 The main article is about Joseph Harris of "Ellenborough." Col. Joseph Harris b. 1773 - d. 1855 is also buried at Mt. Tirzah. The article is very concise and will provide the information you are looking for. Good Luck Chuck Harris

At 05:46 PM 03/20/2001 Jennifer Peterson wrote: >Has anyone ever heard of this place? There's a White Oak Swamp in Henrico County VA - site of a Civil War battle. *** Paul Burnett - Morgan Hill, CA - pburnett@garlic.com - http://www.garlic.com/~pburnett (Days: pburnett@du-all.com - http://www.du-all.com ) Bay Area Environmental Safety Group: http://www.baesg.org

Has anyone ever heard of this place? I'm trying to figure out where it is. Thanks, -Jennifer Peterson Denver, CO

In a message dated 3/20/01 9:04:05 AM Central Standard Time, Dfwoodburn writes: > Subj: genealogy > Date: 3/20/01 9:04:05 AM Central Standard Time > From: Dfwoodburn > To: ChHarris47 > > A friend of mine forwarded a message you sent out to all who were looking > for info on the Harris family name in Maryland. > I am interested in Gwynn Harris whose remains can be found on property in > Charles County, MD. the farm where these remains lie is called Mt Tirzah > Apparently from the tombstone, Gwynn Harris was in the military(Navy I > believe) and lived ffrom 1780 to 1837. > > What information do you have about this person?? > thanks > David Woodburn > Dear David: Congratulations to your mother and brother. I don't have all of the information about this property in this families tree but from what I have seen this property must have been very, very large at one time. Just looking at the Wills over the years the property has been parsed out here and there to various descendants. As you will see in the Descendancy Tree of this family, they were in this area for a long, long time. Many of us have combined our collected information on this family into the file below, but I am sure there are others out there, probably descendants of this family, that could tell you a lot more. In one of the paragraphs below I have referenced a book written about this family that is available in the Hall of Records in Annapolis. If you have the time and an interest, you should take a look at this book. It may be available in other places as well. You might try the Charles Co. Historical Society and the historical society at Bowie before going to Annapolis. If I recall correctly, many of this Harris family besides Gwinn Harris re buried at Mt. Tirzah. I hope this helps a little in providing some of the history of this family and this particular piece of property. Descendants of Thomas Harris Jr. 1 Thomas Harris Jr. 1682/83 - 1734 b: February 26, 1682/83 d: Bef. May 06, 1734 . +Martha Sansbury ........ 2 Elizabeth Harris ............ +Charles Smoot 1700 - 1776 b: Abt. 1700 d: Abt. 1776 ........ 2 John Harris Jr. 1708 - 1742 b: May 25, 1708 d: Aft. December 18, 1742 in Charles Co., MD ............ +Catherine Musgrave - 1768 d: Bef. March 09, 1768 in Charles Co., MD ................... 3 Thomas Harris 1741 - 1815 b: August 04, 1741 d: February 22, 1815 ....................... +Anne Gwinn 1741 - 1811 b: Abt. April 29, 1741 d: December 10, 1811 in Charles Co., MD .............................. 4 Eleanor Harris 1764 - b: December 15, 1764 .............................. 4 John Harris 1766 - b: September 28, 1766 .............................. 4 Martha Harris 1768 - b: March 25, 1768 .................................. +John Maddox .............................. 4 Thomas Harris 1769 - 1829 b: December 31, 1769 in Charles Co., MD d: June 24, 1829 in Charles Co., MD .................................. +Eleanor Davidson .............................. 4 Elizabeth Harris 1771 - b: June 22, 1771 .............................. 4 Joseph Harris 1773 - b: August 07, 1773 .................................. +Susanna Reeder b: in Of St. Mary's County, MD .............................. 4 [1] John Frances Harris 1775 - b: March 22, 1775 in Charles Co., MD .................................. +Ruth Tunstill .............................. *2nd Wife of [1] John Frances Harris: .................................. +Elizabeth Prill .............................. 4 Kathy Harris 1776 - b: July 30, 1776 .................................. +William Vincent b: in Of Charles Co, MD .............................. 4 Benjamin Gwinn Harris 1778 - b: September 10, 1778 d: in Island of Monserrat .............................. 4 Gwinn Harris 1780 - 1837 b: April 27, 1780 in Mt. Tirzah d: August 12, 1837 in Mt. Tirzah .............................. 4 Violetta Harris 1782 - b: 1782 .................................. +Luke Phillip Barber b: in Chaptico, MD .............................. 4 Nathan Harris 1785 - b: September 05, 1785 .................................. +Mary Clagett b: in Alexandria, VA .............................. 4 [2] Morgan Harris 1787 - b: November 16, 1787 .................................. +Anna L. Morson b: in West Indies .............................. *2nd Wife of [2] Morgan Harris: .................................. +Etheldra Chapman b: in Of Charles Co, MD ................... 3 Nathan Harris - 1766 d: June 09, 1766 in Charles Co., MD ....................... +Rachel Lawrence .............................. 4 Mary Harris ................... 3 Mary Harris ....................... +Charles Love .............................. 4 Samuel Love THOMAS HARRIS: Inventory of Thomas Harris Jr., Charles Co, MD. lists next of kin: Nathaniel Harris and Mary Love. (I believe these are his grandchildren of his son John Harris Jr.) Adm. John Harris Jr. Inv. 20.374; May 6, 1734. Inventory of Thomas Harris, 17.484, 25 June 1733, 11 Oct 1733. Next of kin; John Harris Jr., Nathan Harris. Admx. Mrs. Elisabeth Harris. Inventory of Thomas Harris, 18.468, 27 July 1734, 30 July 1734. Next of kin; John Harris, Thomas Harris. Admx. Mrs. Elisabeth Harris. JOHN HARRIS: John Harris, estate, inventory taken 18 Dec 1742 No. 27.297, ; 16 Jan 1742. Lists next of kin; Nathan Harris, Mary Love. Admin. Katherine (Musgrave) Harris. Another probate record for: John Harris; next of kin; Thomas Harris, Barton Harris. Adm. Elisabeth Harris (Inv.; 25.61, 30 April 1740; 20 May 1740) Deeds Charles Co, MD: In 1732 John Harris Jr. bought 75 acres of land for 10,000 pounds of tobacco and then immediately turned around and sold it to Thomas Harris for 5 shillings and love. Relationship unknown? In the 1758 Charles Co. Tax Lists a John Harris Jr. Port Tobacco West Parish had 75 slaves and 1 tithable with note "quertor" (sp)? COL. THOMAS HARRIS: Col. Thomas Harris is of the Mount Tirzah, Charles Co, MD Harris family. A book about this family was written by a Mrs. Maddox and is in the Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD. GWINN HARRIS: no marriage Buried at Mt. Tirzah: Sacred to the memory of Gwinn Harris born 27 Apri 1780 and after long and useful service in the Navy of the United States died on the 12th of Aug. 1837 whilst President of the Executive Council of his native State having won for himself confidence of all with whom he acted.

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The following information was taken from the ARCHIVE RECORDS of the LDS church in Salt Lake City. I am not sure which Harris families these connect to either. Any help is appreciated. Chuck Harris The source of this information is reported to be: Harris Genealogy by Thomas Harris p. 165-166 and includes at least three families. This was submitted to LDS by Alonzo Joesph Roberts 1961 1) William Harris married (10 Apr 1765) to Prudence Williams 2) Joseph Harris b. 9 June 1742 Prince Georges Co, MD d. 10 June 1816 Henry Co., VA. married Emma Crouse b. 3 July 1744 Frederick Co, MD. d. 18 Sept 1813, Henry Co, VA. Children of Joseph and Emma listed: (all born in Henry Co, VA) 3) Sarah b. 2 Oct 1766 d. infant 3) Millicent b. 15 Apr 1768 d. 1830 3) Edwin b. 7 Aug 1770 m. 15 Dec 1794 Mary Ann James 3) Robert 10 Jan 1772 m. 2 Jan 1796 Emeline Tanner 3) John b. 14 Jan 1774 m. Susan Wilcox 3) Martha b. 30 May 1777 3) Thomas b. 2 Feb 1779 m. Delsie Cantrell 3) Louisa b. 18 June 1782 3) Dorcas b. 14 Nov. 1785 m. Amos Jones 2) James Harris b. 11 March 1747 Prince Georges Co, MD d. 16 Aug 1825 Henrico Co, VA. married 10 April 1765 to Josie White b. 1749 of Rochester, NY Her father was Frank White: Their children were listed as: 3) Frances b. 1 Nov 1772 Prince Georges Co, VA m. Robert Cooley 3) Tobias b. 1774 PG Co, VA m. Hannah Hern 3) Laura b. 1776 PG Co, VA 3) Sallie b. 1778 PG Co, VA 3) George b. 16 Feb 1780 PG Co, VA m. Belle Jorden 3) James b. 30 May 1785 Henrich Co., VA 1) Thomas Harris b. 3 Sept 1783 married Martha Bayer 2) James Harris b. 18 Sept 1763 Prince Georges Co, MD d. 11 Aug 1840 Gloucester Co., VA. James married Nancy Spencer b. 4 July 1764 Gloucester Co., VA d. 1736 in same county. Her father was Joseph Spencer. Children listed are: 3) William b. 21 Oct 1784 Gloucester Co, VA d. 1862 m. Elizabeth Cannon 3) Samuel b. 13 May 1786 Gloucester m. Dorcas Wiley 3) Alonzo b. 28 June 1788 Gloucester m. Hannah Hickman 3) Sallie b. 3 Apr 1790 Gloucester 3) Nancy b. 18 June 1793 Powell Co, KY m. James Edmonson 3) William b. 15 Mar 1795 Powell Co. 3) Jeremiah b. 31 Oct 1797 Powell Co. m Sarah Clay 3) Henry b. 10 May 1800 Powell Co. m. Rachel Clay

I am seeking the identity and/or connection of the following Harris folks listed in the registry of St. John's Parish, Prince George's Co., MD. We have connected the other Harrises listed in the registry but have not been able to identify these yet. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. Chuck Harris, Ann b. September 26, 1776 dau. of James and Ann. Harris, Elizabeth m. April 11, 1711 to Charles Fenaly Harris, Robert b. August 16, 1774 son of John & Winefred Harris, Elizabeth married February 7, 1796 to William Conor Harris, John confirmed November 23, 1793 Harriss, Nathaniel born January 27, 1794 son of John & Eleanor Harris, Robert married February 7, 1796 to Elizabeth Morland Harris, Sarah confirmed November 23, 1793 Harris, Sarah married April 13, 1797 to Josias Marshall Harris, Wm. Alexander born December 17, 1785 son of James & Hennering

The other day someone wrote to me about a post I made that include a sibling, Josias Harris. I apologize but I cannot find where I filed the query to followup with this letter. My records for Josias Harris b. abt 1756 in Prince George's Co, MD and died in Mercer Co, KY in 1812. He is the son of James Harris and Edy (Edith) of the same county. James died in 1776 and was the son of John Harris, Senr. Will 1776 of the same county. My records come from work provided by various descendants and shows Josias first married Catherine Martin in 1781 in Port Tobacco. They had the following children: Rezin b. 1781 Barton b. 1783 Nathan b. 1785 Teresa b. 1787 Second Marriage was to Elizabeth (-----------) in 1797 in St. John's Parish. Children: Matilda b. 1799 Llloyd b. 1801 Mary b. 1803 John b. 1806 Josias b. 1809 If anyone has further information about this family, we would love to share what we have with you. Thank you. Chuck Harris

Does anyone have more information on the following: John Harris, Prince George's Co., MD gave a gift of land to his son, John.  7 November 1720.  (ct & land p. 257) Does anyone know which Harris family these two belonged to or other family members or related families? Thank you. Chuck Harris

Anyone on this list trying to solve the Hawkins' connections implied by the Giles Cole will made in Charles Co, MD Oct 7, 1675? If so, we could use your help. Ann

Hi Chuck, Could you tell me where the 1776 Census of Port Tobacco, Prince George's Co. MD is available. I am searching the Riston family in that same area in the late 1770's. Thanks, Sophie Fisher

In a message dated 3/11/01 7:21:53 PM Central Standard Time, JET0616 writes: > Subj: Re: John Harris Jr. 1776 census Port Tobacco, Upper Hundred PG Co, MD. > Date: 3/11/01 7:21:53 PM Central Standard Time > From: JET0616 > To: ChHarris47 > > Interesting you should bring this up- I have been researching the > Burch/Harris/Smallwood etc. families. I do know that Mary Ann Harris > daughter of John Sr. is in his will as Mary Burch. > From a recent Email sent to me: > Susan Burch, daughter of Justinian, married Ledstone Smallwood in 1758. > > When John Burch Jr entered the Maryland militia in the opening days of the > revolution, he served under Samuel Smallwood as his Captain and Elisha > Smallwood as his Lieutenant. > The Burch, Harris, Smallwood, Nichols families were from Port Tobacco as I > expect you know. There are many researchers much more knowlegable than I > in these families, so perhaps you will get an answer. > I certainly am not answering your question, but I am going to send this > anyway. I do know these families were all connected. > > Janet Harris Taggart > (also grand daughter of Burch) > Janet: I have Mary Harris as married to a (--------) Burch from the Will of John Harris Senr. but that is about all I have. I have noted the Harris, Smallwoods, Jones and Stonesteets in this county but I have never seen them all connected by anyone. I would appreciate anything else you may have or anything from the other researchers you referred to earlier. I'll keep your note in my efile for followup and forward anything I discover to you. Thanks. Chuck Harris

In a message dated 3/11/01 6:19:26 PM Central Standard Time, pebailey@dnai.com writes: > Subj: Sarah Lanham daughter of Stephen Lanham > Date: 3/11/01 6:19:26 PM Central Standard Time > From: pebailey@dnai.com (Bailey) > To: MDPGEORG-L@rootsweb.com > I am interested in the history of Sarah Lanham (b. abt 1753 PG, MD.)who was > the daughter of Stephen Lanham and Leah Beall.... > I have a Zadock Lowe (b. 1748-1750) who married a Sarah ???? (1748-1754 ). > This couple had their first child Nehemiah Lowe (b. 1769) who was > registered in > the Upper Chapel of Ease in Point Pleasant west of Upper Marlboro.. Zadock > and Sarah Lowe settled in Monroe County, West Virginia and lived until > 1839... > I believe Zadock's father to be William Lowe who owned Beall Benovalence > just East of Forestville on Turkey Branch Creek. > Would appreciate any information on this Sarah Lanham.... > Thanks > Bill: I am interested in the Lanham family as well. My Mildared Harris married Edward Lanham b. abt 1764 in Prince George's Co., MD. He died in Fairfax Co., VA bef January 21, 1828. They had a daughter named Mildared. As you may already know, there were a lot of Lanhams in this county during this period. It would be nice if someone already has them all identified and connected. I'll keep your query in case I run across your line. I hope you keep mine as well. Good hunting. Chuck Harris

Chuck.... Thanks for the reply as I am searching for my Sarah ???? and the Lanthams appear to be a possible source for her family... I found your Edward Lanham on Roots Web Worldconnect at this site: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jmljr&i d=I109521 and an Edward Lanham (b. 1762) which might be yours at this same online site at : http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lanham& id=I0551 Bill Bailey, Antioch, Ca., 94509 -----Original Message----- From: ChHarris47@aol.com [mailto:ChHarris47@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:40 PM To: pebailey@dnai.com Cc: MDCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com; MDPGEORG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Sarah Lanham daughter of Stephen Lanham In a message dated 3/11/01 6:19:26 PM Central Standard Time, pebailey@dnai.com writes: Subj: Sarah Lanham daughter of Stephen Lanham Date: 3/11/01 6:19:26 PM Central Standard Time From: pebailey@dnai.com (Bailey) To: MDPGEORG-L@rootsweb.com I am interested in the history of Sarah Lanham (b. abt 1753 PG, MD.)who was the daughter of Stephen Lanham and Leah Beall.... I have a Zadock Lowe (b. 1748-1750) who married a Sarah ???? (1748-1754 ). This couple had their first child Nehemiah Lowe (b. 1769) who was registered in the Upper Chapel of Ease in Point Pleasant west of Upper Marlboro.. Zadock and Sarah Lowe settled in Monroe County, West Virginia and lived until 1839... I believe Zadock's father to be William Lowe who owned Beall Benovalence just East of Forestville on Turkey Branch Creek. Would appreciate any information on this Sarah Lanham.... Thanks Bill Bailey, Antioch, Ca., 94509 Bill: I am interested in the Lanham family as well. My Mildared Harris married Edward Lanham b. abt 1764 in Prince George's Co., MD. He died in Fairfax Co., VA bef January 21, 1828. They had a daughter named Mildared. As you may already know, there were a lot of Lanhams in this county during this period. It would be nice if someone already has them all identified and connected. I'll keep your query in case I run across your line. I hope you keep mine as well. Good hunting. Chuck Harris

Subj: Re: Susannah Winn or Susannah Plummer, w-o Wm. Harris, PG, MD abt 1770? Date: 3/11/01 3:47:09 PM Central Standard Time From:    astinson@midamerica.net (ann stinson) Reply-to:    astinson@midamerica.net (ann stinson) To:    ChHarris47@aol.com Will of Anne Hanson, widow of Samuel Hanson, Oct 3, 1790.  She bequeathed 50 lbs to Susan W. Harris, granddaughter of her late husband, Samuel Hanson, for her own use and "not that of her husband".  Could there be a clue here? Ann

The 1776 census of Prince George's Co, MD lists John Harris, age 97 living with "white female, age 30." Does anyone know who this John Harris is or which Harris family he belongs to? Thanks. Chuck Harris

A John Harris Jr. was 50 years old in the 1776 census of Port Tobacco, Upper Hundred in Prince George's Co, MD. He was listed as living with the Smallwood family. Others listed were: Phillip smallwood 52, Frances 23, Benjamin 7, Precilla 30, Martha 20. Question: Is this the John Harris b. 1726 d. 1805 who is the son of John Harris Senr. PG, Co., MD who died in 1775/1776 and Willed the land called "The Ridge" to his 2nd oldest son Benjamin Harris? Thanks Chuck Harris

Are these marriages all related? Benjamin Harris married Jane Crampton? Benjamin Harris married Sarah Cramphin? Benjamin Harris married Sarah Copenhagen? Query No. 1: From the 1776 census records of Prince George’s Co, MD- Lower Potomack Hundred we have Benjamin Harris b. 22 Dec 1742 who appears to be married to Jane Crampton. They have a child, John Cramphin Harris b. 1773 living with them in the 1776 census. Note from Carol Mitchell file: [118] Sarah Harris may have held the maiden name of Cramphin.118a With evidence of a Prince George's Co., MD land deed, Sarah married Benjamin Harris before 14 November 1748. [118b] The birth date of Benjamin Harris,Jr., presumed son of Sarah and Benjamin Harris (Sr.), placed the marriage date of Benjamin and Sarah Harris before 1742.[118c] [118a] Without documentation, Mrs. William Hyde Talbott stated that Sarah Cramphin was the wife of Benjamin Harris according to excepts from her undated letter located as a loose paper in the Harris Family File of the Montgomery Co. (MD) Historical Society, Rockville, MD. A search of early Maryland Provincial Court Judgment records circa 1758 or before concerning a judgment involving Thomas Cramphin and wife, executors of John Bowie, deceased, against Benjamin Harris may provide "proof" for the maiden name of Sarah Harris.[144] QUESTION: Does anyone know the ancestry of this Benjamin Harris in the 1776 census of PG, MD b. 1742 who has a child, John Cramphin Harris? Query No 2: It was believed that this Benjamin b. 1742 (reference the Benjamin queried above) was the son of Benjamin Harris (b. 1716 in Cumberland Co, VA according to IGI file 446019) who married Sarah Copenhagen. They had children 1) Sarah b. 13 March 1739 PG Co., MD 2) Mary b. 8 Sept 1740 PG Co., MD 3) Benjamin Jr. b. 12 Dec 1741 PG Co., MD 4) Benjamin b. 22 Dec 1742 PG Co., MD QUESTIONs: 1) Was this Benjamin (b. 1716 in Cumberland Co, VA?) the son of Thomas Harris and Rachel (Maddox?)? 2) Is this Benjamin b. 22 Dec 1742 PG Co, MD the same Benjamin as listed in the 1st query above? FOR REFERENCE: Descendant Tree of Thomas Harris Sr. (Planter) Prince George’s Co., MD is provided from the detailed work of Carol Mitchell. Descendants of Thomas Harris 1 Thomas Harris 1673 - 1728 . +Rachel (Maddox?) 1680 - 1756 ........ 2 Thomas Harris 1699 - 1771 ............ +Sarah Offutt 1709 - 1762 ................... 3 Thomas Harris 1726 - ................... 3 Mary Harris 1728 - 1788 ....................... +William Waters 1716 - 1788 ................... 3 Rachel Harris 1729/30 - ................... 3 Jemima Harris 1733 - ................... 3 Keziah Harris 1735 - ................... 3 Rebecca Harris 1737 - ................... 3 Zachariah Harris 1740 - ................... 3 Nathaniel Harris 1742 - 1825 ....................... +Susannah Slye ................... 3 Aaron Harris 1744 - 1800 ....................... +Mary 1750 - ................... 3 Nathan Harris 1747 - 1820 ....................... +(?)Dorsey .............................. 4 Harriett Harris 1775 - .................................. +Basil Dorsey Jr. .............................. 4 Cordelia Harris 1778 - .................................. +(?) Berle .............................. 4 Orrellona Harris 1781 - .............................. 4 Mary Harris ................... *2nd Wife of Nathan Harris: ....................... +Rachel Lawrence 1739 - 1808 ................... 3 Zadock Harris 1750 - 1791 ....................... +Sarah 1749 - ................... 3 Keziah Harris 1753 - ................... 3 Rebecca Harris 1758 - ........ 2 Sarah Harris 1701 - 1701/02 ........ 2 Sarah Harris 1702/03 - 1719 ........ 2 Rachel Harris 1703/04 - 1729 ........ 2 James Harris 1706 - 1729 ........ 2 Jemima Harris 1709 - 1756 ........ 2 Ruth Harris 1712 - 1776 ............ +Benjamin Belt 1708 - ........ 2 Rebecca Harris 1712 - 1772 ............ +James Wilson Perry 1681 - 1771 ........ 2 Benjamin Harris 1714 - 1774 ............ +Sarah ........ 2 Richard Harris 1715/16 - 1729 ........ 2 Sarah Harris 1717/18 - 1792 ............ +William Tannehill 1721 - 1783 ........ 2 Samuel Harris 1713 - 1789 ............ +Martha Conn Thanks Chuck Harris

I am interested in the history of Sarah Lanham (b. abt 1753 PG, MD.)who was the daughter of Stephen Lanham and Leah Beall.... I have a Zadock Lowe (b. 1748-1750) who married a Sarah ???? (1748-1754 ). This couple had their first child Nehemiah Lowe (b. 1769) who was registered in the Upper Chapel of Ease in Point Pleasant west of Upper Marlboro.. Zadock and Sarah Lowe settled in Monroe County, West Virginia and lived until 1839... I believe Zadock's father to be William Lowe who owned Beall Benovalence just ast of Forestville on Turkey Branch Creek. Would appreciate any information on this Sarah Lanham.... Thanks Bill Bailey, Antioch, Ca., 94509

I have pencilled in that one researcher had Susannah, wife of William, as a "Plummer." Does anyone know anything about this? William Harris b. 1747 in Prince George's Co., MD is the son of James (Edward) Harris and Edy (?). James (Edward) Harris was the eldest son of John Harris, Senr. of PG, MD. Most people have William marrying Susannah Winn in 1769 and having the following children: 1) Nancy 2) Barton (Bartain) 3) George Stone 4) James 5) Fielder Bowie 6) Elizabeth 7) Sarah Ann 8) Josiah Thanks Chuck Harris