Hello All, I recently came across another old book that I thought may be of interest to some of you. It is from 1843 and is titled "Pilgrims of Maryland". It's pretty interesting reading so if anyone would like to see it I have scanned the first half and placed it on my web site. I hope to get the second half done soon. It's at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.28/518 - Release Date: 11/4/2006

I have tried to pull up what you where talking about and couldnt find it Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Buckingham" <a.d.buckingham@verizon.net> To: <MDFREDER-L@rootsweb.com>; <MDHARFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: [MDHARFOR] Pilgrims of MD > Hello All, > > I recently came across another old book that I thought may be of interest to > some of you. It is from 1843 and is titled "Pilgrims of Maryland". It's > pretty interesting reading so if anyone would like to see it I have scanned > the first half and placed it on my web site. I hope to get the second half > done soon. It's at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com > > Alan > RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, > Vansant and related families > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.28/518 - Release Date: 11/4/2006 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDHARFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if there are any copies of the Bel Air times available. I'm trying to get more information on a John B. Foard who died in 1898 at approximate age 70. You all know how that goes. What I have is he died near Prospect in Harford County on August 26, 1898 and he had six living children. It appears his wife Lydia Jane McFadden was still living at the time of his death. I would love to fill in a few more details if possible. Thanks Harford Gang. Bettie Krouse McMullen Port Orange, FL

Hi Mike, The Verlinden name is elusive. The marriage record spells the name Vallindan. John Verlenden seems to have kept a low profile. The family moved to Avondale Pa for a while and finally to Darby. We have no idea when John Sr. died. His daughter Mary Ann married Abraham VanZant, his sons John and Enos Verlenden became prominent mill owners in Darby. My third ggrandmother, Elizabeth Verlenden m. Joshua Heaps of England who also was a millman. Other names are Yates, Farraday, O'Neal, Quinn and Lord. One of the interesting things for me is that John Verlenden hailed from the same area in Belgium that the ENOS families of DE and MD came from. I have often wondered if he sought out a community with Flemish connections. Another bit of family lore is that this WOOD family had something to do with "shot towers". I wish things weren't so sketchy but I am grasping at straws!! Thanks so much for your help!!! Bev W

Thanks for posting this -- these are my family! Isaac (Sr.) is my direct line, through his daughter Sarah Wood who married the Daniel Donahoo mentioned in the will & in the documents you quote. I've been trying to track Isaac's line back further -- his parents were Joshua and Margaret (__) Wood of Baltimore (now Harford) Co, but records are slim. Some sources say Joshua was from England, others say Maryland. Nothing I've found has his parents' names, nor his wife's maiden name. Does anyone know either? Another Wood question; I have another, different Sarah Wood in my lineage -- Sarah Wood m. Benjamin Huffman. Her name is confirmed in her daughter's marriage announcement. By her gravestone she was b. 6 July 1781 and d. 12 Jun 1845 in Greene Co. PA. I suspect that Sarah (Wood) Huffman and Sarah (Wood) Donahoo were related -- probably niece/aunt, respectively -- but if so, I don't seem to be able to find which of Sarah (Wood) Donahoo's brothers was Sarah (Wood) Huffman's father. On the other hand, it's possible that she was from an unrelated Wood family. Other than the fact that both Sarahs ended up in Greene Co., there's nothing specific to connect them. Can anyone help? cheers, Gordon Bonnet Trumansburg NY Mpierce1@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/24/2006 7:50:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >User917826@aol.com writes: > > > > >>I am looking for a possible connection to my 4th ggrandmother, Elizabeth >>Wood >>Verlenden, who was born in MD in 1789. While Elizabeth was married at St. >>Mary Anne's Parish in Cecil Co. in 1809 and eventually moved to PA. >> >> > >Bev, > >The land records are a good source of info. I looked in Harford County, but >did not find any Verlenden (or Ferlenden). I looked in Cecil Co for 1674-1810 >and 1838-1850 and did not find any Verlenden. The index for 1810-1838 seems to >be incomplete and does not include "V". > >In case the Wood connection is right, or for anyone else interested in Wood >in Harford County, I found the following deeds: > >1:41 30 May 1774 Isaac Wood to Thomas Miller, part of 20 acres granted to >said Isaac in 1765. > >C:116 12 Dec 1778 Benjamin Wood of Mohengohely Co, VA to William Wood of >Harford Co, formerly belonging to Issac Wood and left to Benjamin in will after >decease of his mother. Benjamin appeared before the Justice of the Peace of >Harford County. > >D:55 31 Mar 1781 Elizabeth Wood to Daniel Donahoo 25 acres. widow of Isaac >Wood Sen who left "Isaac's Lot" originally granted 10 July 1725 to said Isaac. > >E:406 9 Sept 1783 Elizabeth Cowan to James Cowan (her son) Conveys personal >goods > >E:291 28 Oct 1782 James Eagon and his wife Mary of Monongahale County PA >[must have meant VA] to Moses Wood of Harford Co. Land contained within the 10 >acres given by Isaac Wood, deceased, by his will unto his 4 daughters, said lot >being on the south side of Quaker Road and west side of road leading from Deer >Creek to Spesutia Church. (James and Mary actually appeared before the >Justice of the Peace in Harford County to attest that this was correct.) > >E:292 14 Dec 1782 James Seal and Hannah his wife of Harford County to Moses >Wood, land contained within the 10 acres left by Isaac Wood to his 4 daughters > >G:401 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood of Washington Co PA to Moses Wood of Harford >County. Whereas Isaac Wood, deceased, owned "Wood's Meadow Inlarged" which Isaac >in his will ordered should be laid out in 4 lotts of 2.5 acres each for 4 >daughters ... Said will was invalid and right of inheritance fell to above named >Isaac. (Isaac Wood personally appeared before the Justice of the Peace of >Harford County) > >G: 62 19 Oct 1785 Elizabeth Cowan and her son James grant p/o "Wood's Close" >to WIlliam Mitchell. Signed by James Coen and Elizabeth Coen (by mark) and >witnessed by Mary Coen and Hannah Seel. > >I:385 20 Oct 1790 Moses Wood and his wife Jane to Thomas Bell. Whereas the >said Jane was formerly married to David Dickson who owned "Montreal" ... > >K:45 13 Nov 1787 John Wood Sen to John Wood Jr (Gift to son), personal >property, no land > >K:103 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood of Washington Co PA to William Wood of Harford >Co. Whereas 2 Jan 1718 granted to Joshua Wood "Chestnut Ridge" on Swan Creek, >which was then transferred to Isaac Wood now deceased, who willed to his son >William Wood, but will is invalid, so land fell to aforesaid Isaac Wood. (Isaac >Wood appeared before the Justice of the Peace of Harford County 12 Sept 1877.) > >K:110 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood to Daniel Donahoo, Whereas Isaac Wood, >deceased, in will gave to Elizabeth his wife "Isaac's Lott" on the northmost main >branch of Swan Creek granted for 25 acres on 5 Apr 1684, which has since been >conveyed by Elizabath Wood, relict of Isaac, to Daniel Donahoo, but said will is >invalid, right of inheritance fell to Isaac Wood. > >K:139 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood to John Wood. Whereas Isacc Wood deceased >willed to son James Wood, father of above named John Wood, but will being invalid, >land went to named Isaac Wood. > >So, from the land records, it would appear that Isaac Wood, born before 1705 >and died 1774-1784, son of Joshua Wood, married Elizabeth, born before 1740, >and had sons Isaac (eldest, who came of age between 1774 and 1781), Moses, >William (and maybe Benjamin) and daughters Mary who married James Eagon, Hannah >who married James Seal, ? who married James Cowan, and ??. > > >As it turns out, I got the will and found that Isaac Wood died between 29 Apr >1776 and 23 June 1777. He bequethed his land as follows: > >To Issac, intended to give land, but Isaac got in such debt and his father >helped him out, so he is given only 1 shilling >To son James 61 acres >To wife Elizabeth >10 acres to 2 daughters (Hannah and Mary) and 2 grand-daughters (Hannah Cowan >and Elizabeth Hayes) >To Sons William, Benjamin, and Moses > >There must have been a nasty scene with Isaac contesting the will and getting >it thrown out for "want of evidence", so all the land went to him, which he >then sold back to each of them in a big family get-together on 8 Sept 1788. > >Mike > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDHARFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

In a message dated 10/24/2006 7:50:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, User917826@aol.com writes: > I am looking for a possible connection to my 4th ggrandmother, Elizabeth > Wood > Verlenden, who was born in MD in 1789. While Elizabeth was married at St. > Mary Anne's Parish in Cecil Co. in 1809 and eventually moved to PA. Bev, The land records are a good source of info. I looked in Harford County, but did not find any Verlenden (or Ferlenden). I looked in Cecil Co for 1674-1810 and 1838-1850 and did not find any Verlenden. The index for 1810-1838 seems to be incomplete and does not include "V". In case the Wood connection is right, or for anyone else interested in Wood in Harford County, I found the following deeds: 1:41 30 May 1774 Isaac Wood to Thomas Miller, part of 20 acres granted to said Isaac in 1765. C:116 12 Dec 1778 Benjamin Wood of Mohengohely Co, VA to William Wood of Harford Co, formerly belonging to Issac Wood and left to Benjamin in will after decease of his mother. Benjamin appeared before the Justice of the Peace of Harford County. D:55 31 Mar 1781 Elizabeth Wood to Daniel Donahoo 25 acres. widow of Isaac Wood Sen who left "Isaac's Lot" originally granted 10 July 1725 to said Isaac. E:406 9 Sept 1783 Elizabeth Cowan to James Cowan (her son) Conveys personal goods E:291 28 Oct 1782 James Eagon and his wife Mary of Monongahale County PA [must have meant VA] to Moses Wood of Harford Co. Land contained within the 10 acres given by Isaac Wood, deceased, by his will unto his 4 daughters, said lot being on the south side of Quaker Road and west side of road leading from Deer Creek to Spesutia Church. (James and Mary actually appeared before the Justice of the Peace in Harford County to attest that this was correct.) E:292 14 Dec 1782 James Seal and Hannah his wife of Harford County to Moses Wood, land contained within the 10 acres left by Isaac Wood to his 4 daughters G:401 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood of Washington Co PA to Moses Wood of Harford County. Whereas Isaac Wood, deceased, owned "Wood's Meadow Inlarged" which Isaac in his will ordered should be laid out in 4 lotts of 2.5 acres each for 4 daughters ... Said will was invalid and right of inheritance fell to above named Isaac. (Isaac Wood personally appeared before the Justice of the Peace of Harford County) G: 62 19 Oct 1785 Elizabeth Cowan and her son James grant p/o "Wood's Close" to WIlliam Mitchell. Signed by James Coen and Elizabeth Coen (by mark) and witnessed by Mary Coen and Hannah Seel. I:385 20 Oct 1790 Moses Wood and his wife Jane to Thomas Bell. Whereas the said Jane was formerly married to David Dickson who owned "Montreal" ... K:45 13 Nov 1787 John Wood Sen to John Wood Jr (Gift to son), personal property, no land K:103 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood of Washington Co PA to William Wood of Harford Co. Whereas 2 Jan 1718 granted to Joshua Wood "Chestnut Ridge" on Swan Creek, which was then transferred to Isaac Wood now deceased, who willed to his son William Wood, but will is invalid, so land fell to aforesaid Isaac Wood. (Isaac Wood appeared before the Justice of the Peace of Harford County 12 Sept 1877.) K:110 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood to Daniel Donahoo, Whereas Isaac Wood, deceased, in will gave to Elizabeth his wife "Isaac's Lott" on the northmost main branch of Swan Creek granted for 25 acres on 5 Apr 1684, which has since been conveyed by Elizabath Wood, relict of Isaac, to Daniel Donahoo, but said will is invalid, right of inheritance fell to Isaac Wood. K:139 8 Sept 1788 Isaac Wood to John Wood. Whereas Isacc Wood deceased willed to son James Wood, father of above named John Wood, but will being invalid, land went to named Isaac Wood. So, from the land records, it would appear that Isaac Wood, born before 1705 and died 1774-1784, son of Joshua Wood, married Elizabeth, born before 1740, and had sons Isaac (eldest, who came of age between 1774 and 1781), Moses, William (and maybe Benjamin) and daughters Mary who married James Eagon, Hannah who married James Seal, ? who married James Cowan, and ??. As it turns out, I got the will and found that Isaac Wood died between 29 Apr 1776 and 23 June 1777. He bequethed his land as follows: To Issac, intended to give land, but Isaac got in such debt and his father helped him out, so he is given only 1 shilling To son James 61 acres To wife Elizabeth 10 acres to 2 daughters (Hannah and Mary) and 2 grand-daughters (Hannah Cowan and Elizabeth Hayes) To Sons William, Benjamin, and Moses There must have been a nasty scene with Isaac contesting the will and getting it thrown out for "want of evidence", so all the land went to him, which he then sold back to each of them in a big family get-together on 8 Sept 1788. Mike

Hi Bill, I don't have an ANN nor have I done any research in Calvert. I have done a fair amount in DE, SE PA, and in Kent and Cecil. It is so hard when the name is a common one. These colonial grandmothers are tough to trace. Regards, Bev W

Hello: My ancestor, William McComas-2 (s/o Daniel-1 & Elizabeth) was placed with a John Warfield in 1705, after his father had died in 1699 and the Mother could no longer care for the children. Is there a possibly a kinship with the Warfield family? Other children were placed with Stephen Gill/McGill (John, Alexander, and Daniel-2), my William with John Warfield; and Elinor with the Stephens family. To date, no further information has been found about Elinor. It is possible that Daniel McComas is the Dan McKimis who was one of sme 52 passengers paid for by William? Stephens (in 1680's) to inhabit parts of Maryland. Thank you Gertrude J. Stephens

Jo, the house sits off the road. You have to turn into a dirt lane. There are a couple old Hemlock trees and right after that the lane turns to the left and you can see the house. It is not easy to see .... I spent a lot of time there as a kid and I missed it the first time I went back a couple years ago. There are some very nice, new homes built on what was once our hay field. Bettie

Bev, Sorry I can't help you with your search but I do have a question. I have a Thomas Dorsey, B 1769, who married an Ann Wood, B 1785 (dates established via 1850 Calvert County, Maryland Census) . Would you know anything about this Ann Wood? Bill -------Original Message------- From: User917826@aol.com Date: 10/24/2006 7:50:40 AM To: MDHARFOR@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDHARFOR] WOOD family Hi... I am looking for a possible connection to my 4th ggrandmother, Elizabeth Wood Verlenden, who was born in MD in 1789. While Elizabeth was married at St. Mary Anne's Parish in Cecil Co. in 1809 and eventually moved to PA. We find her in Harford Co. Md. with one of her daughters (John and Martha Verlenden Yates) in the 1850 census. I am researching the possibility that Elizabeth could have been the daughter of John Wood and Sarah Bailey Wood who married in Harford in 1783. Elizabeth named her oldest daughter Sarah W. Verlenden. Her sons were John and Enos Verlenden, who became prominant mill owners in Del Co., Pa. Family lore has it that someone in Elizabeth Wood's family worked a shot tower, but I have not found evidence as such. For many years now our family has searched for a connection to the right WOOD family. I am examining why Elizabeth returned to HARFORD in the mid 1800s with her daughter's family. I must say that this family did not remain in Harford. Martha Yates, who became a widow sometime in the 1850s, is found in PA in the 1860 census and Elizabeth is living with yet another daughter in PA. I can only think Elizabeth returned to HARFORD because of a family tie. I would so appreciate any thoughts on this family or how I might further my research. I have not done much research in Harford and would love some direction. Thanks, Bev W ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDHARFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi... I am looking for a possible connection to my 4th ggrandmother, Elizabeth Wood Verlenden, who was born in MD in 1789. While Elizabeth was married at St. Mary Anne's Parish in Cecil Co. in 1809 and eventually moved to PA. We find her in Harford Co. Md. with one of her daughters (John and Martha Verlenden Yates) in the 1850 census. I am researching the possibility that Elizabeth could have been the daughter of John Wood and Sarah Bailey Wood who married in Harford in 1783. Elizabeth named her oldest daughter Sarah W. Verlenden. Her sons were John and Enos Verlenden, who became prominant mill owners in Del Co., Pa. Family lore has it that someone in Elizabeth Wood's family worked a shot tower, but I have not found evidence as such. For many years now our family has searched for a connection to the right WOOD family. I am examining why Elizabeth returned to HARFORD in the mid 1800s with her daughter's family. I must say that this family did not remain in Harford. Martha Yates, who became a widow sometime in the 1850s, is found in PA in the 1860 census and Elizabeth is living with yet another daughter in PA. I can only think Elizabeth returned to HARFORD because of a family tie. I would so appreciate any thoughts on this family or how I might further my research. I have not done much research in Harford and would love some direction. Thanks, Bev W

Bettie - I'm headed out that way this afternoon and will go right by Clermont Mills Road. Will take a detour and see if I can find an old house on the road. I'll take the camera just in case. Jo

In a message dated 10/23/2006 3:23:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JCSuper1@aol.com writes: > I'm clueless on were to go or how to go about tracking this property. Any > > ideas my friends? > Bettie, I loved your description of the old house! Many of the deeds for Harford County are now on-line. Henry and Willie Lou Crouse bought the land on 14 Nov 1923 from Walter and Nannie Bailey and sold the 156.75 acres to August and Lillian Kozlovsky on 15 May 1950. It appears that the Baileys bought it on 10 June 1919 from James & Mary Archer who had bought it on 9 Mar 1914 from Skipwith Coale. Coale had acquired it in two parcels in 1906. August Kozlovsky died in October 1981 and Lillian sold part of this land to Jay & Mary Gernand in 2002, who now own 102 acres. She had apparently sold off many smaller pieces earlier. The land is described in a plat which can be found at: http://plato.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/stagser/s1500/s1529/cfm/dsp_unit.cfm?c ounty=ha&qualifier=S&series=1246&unit=8904&p_ds_value=1&p_ms_value=0 User id = plato, paswword = plato# I have not found any indication of an old house on the property, but it might be on a part that was sold separately (not on this plat). Do you have any idea of where the house was relative to this plat? Mike Pierce

Good Morning Harford Gang, I've something bugging me and since I live in Florida now, it is hard for me to spend enough time in Harford County to do any real research. Or Baltimore County for that matter as at this time, the area may have been Baltimore County! My grandparents Henry and Willie Lou Graham Crouse purchased a farm in Pylvesville, Upper Harford in about 1924. It is located not too far from St. Mary's Catholic Church on Claremont Mill road....think that is how it is spelled. The family owned the property until about 1950 or a bit later. Information from one of my Aunts is that this particular property contained the "main" house of the "old plantation". I can remember seeing old foundation stones on either side of the lane that wound up past the barn (now gone) to the house. What I remember is there was not indoor plumbing and the "running" water in the kitchen was run by my grandfather by a very small pipe, to one faucet in a rather jury rigged sink from the well. She had a cook stove...no electric stove and that was because we had electricity in the barn, so a wire was run to the house. By the way....you stepped down into her kitchen from the big room that was the "dinning" room. It was quite a big step....and you stepped on to a dirt, very hard packed, floor. My Grandmother covered the floor with scraps of linoleum and rag rugs she had made. The house had three stories. The basement/cellar had a large fireplace and of course a dirt floor. The front steps where large pieces of granite. The front door was huge and entered into a big hall with wide steps winding up to the 3rd floor. You could walk directly through that hall and out a door in the back of the hall. I believe this was a typical configuration for ventilation and air movement at the time the house was built. On either side of this hall were two large, room to the right was used in my time as a parlor and to the left was again in my time, the dinning room and family gathering place. Both of these rooms had large fireplace but by my time were boarded up and a freestanding wood burning stove was in place. The other big room was furnished but hardly anyone used it. My Aunt can remember that out in the field behind the house was another "slave" quarter. In her time it was still half standing with the chimney still partially standing. She told me an owl live there and she, my mother and the other girls use to play there and the owl scared them to death. She also told me that there was a special entry in the second story from one of the large bedrooms that led to a smaller room where a servant must have stayed....NOT IN OUR TIME THO!!! Evidently there was either a room over several rooms that were actually over the old kitchen. I can vaguely remember a door out of that bedroom but never opened it because I would have gotten into big trouble. I also remember there was a funny little cupboard build in behind where the wood stove was in the parlor. We are beginning to think that perhaps at one time this could have been a stop on the underground railway. This is rather conflicting information if in fact this was a Plantation that included slaves. I know that at one time the place was bought by Joseph Bateman. It is now surrounded by modern homes. The current owners still have about 9 acres of the original farm at the time my grandparents owned it. I believe the old stone "spring house" is still on the property. I'm clueless on were to go or how to go about tracking this property. Any ideas my friends? Bettie Krouse McMullen

Thanks so much = My Warfield family came over in the 1600's Richard Warfield geneglow@aol.com

Hello All, I came across a book recently titled "The Beginnings of Lord Baltimore's Plantation in Maryland" that was written c1634. The wording is still in the old English so it's a bit of a hard read, but a fascinating account of life at that early time on the "frontier". My Nowland family came over in to MD in the late 1600's so it is especially interesting to see what they had to deal with at that time. I have scanned the book and placed it on my web site for anyone who is interested. It is at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Also, if there are any other Nowland descendants out there I would love to hear from you. Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006

Hello All, I scanned and added the last part of a book titled "Society for the History of Germans in Maryland". Please feel free to check it out if it is of any interest. It's on my web site at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.6/486 - Release Date: 10/19/2006

I'm sharing this with the whole list to help everyone understand the value of land records to trace your ancestors, especially in the pre-1850 time period when the census records do not give family members' names and there are not many other records. Before people recorded births, marriages, and deaths, they accurately recorded land ownership. In a message dated 10/14/2006 12:21:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gregdawn@pathwaynet.com writes: > Q: are they related/descendents of THE Benjamin Payne that married > Charlotte Norris?? > Looking through the land records and the census, I now have 3 Benjamin Paynes in the early 19th century in or near Harford Co, MD. The first (whom I presume is the one you meant married Charlotte Norris) died in 1821 according to a deed in 1842 when Benjamin N Payne and his wife Mary sold land to Amanda Zana Payne. It says that Benjamin's estate had been divided into 6 lots on petition of his heirs. After 1821, there are two Benjamins in various land records and census in Harford County. Benjamin Payne, born about 1795 in PA (he married Eleanor and moved to KY about 1847). A 1822 deed indicates that this Benjamin, along with Edward, Lydia, Mary, and John were the heirs of John Payne late of Fawn Township, York Co, PA. Another deed in 1847 indicates that Alice was the widow of the elder John and still living. Benjamin N Payne, born about 1806 (He married Mary Cathcart in 1829) A deed in 1829 from Charlotte Payne Jr to Benjamin N Payne and witnessed by Vincent Norris strongly suggests that this Benjamin N is the son of Benjamin Payne and Charlotte Norris and that the elder Charlotte was still living. (I'll bet the middle initial "N" is "Norris".) He was in Baltimore County in the 1840 census and appears to have purchased his first property there in Feb 1845. Until Dec 14, 1869 he is a party to about a hundred deeds and leases in Baltimore County with his wife. There is then one lease on Jan 11, 1871. After that they both disappear. Since Mary is listed without him in the 1870 census, it appears that he must have died after Dec 14, 1869 and before the census in 1870. Mike Pierce

Now you have my head spinning! The children think its funny to watch mama plot these types of things on the dry erase board, until it makes sense and I put it to paper. Q: are they related/descendents of THE Benjamin Payne that married Charlotte Norris?? That is the link I was looking for, sigh. You really are something with all these land records, are you having fun? Isn't it like a puzzle, except I'm really not doing anything to solve it? Kudos, to you, for all your hard work! Dawn Sliver Bastounes, stuck with computer research in cold, cold Michigan! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mpierce1@aol.com To: mdharfor@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:48 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [MDHARFOR] Parentage of William F. Payn In a message dated 10/13/2006 8:05:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gregdawn@pathwaynet.com writes: > I was hoping that I could find a link between John and Benjamin, but on > further looking at census information, there has turned out to be 2 Benj. Payne Dawn I would say that John Paybe is related to both. The two Benjamins are: Benjamin N Payne married Mary Cathcart 16 Jan 1829 Benjamin Payne married Eleanor and moved to Kentucky about 1846. >From the land records: Benj appointed John Payne his attorney in 1846 before going to Kentucky when he still lived in York Co, PA In 1846 (later) John & Eleanor transferred land to Belnjamin Payne of Harford Co. In 1847, Alice Payne of PA and relict of John Payne, sold to Benjamin Payne (her son), which was the same land that John got in 1822 from the family members. (So John is Alice's son also). In 1847, Benjamin and Eleanor Payne of Daviss Co, KY sold to John Payne. In 1847, Benjamin & Mary of Harford Co, MD sold land with others (heirs of William Cathcart) Benjamin 55 and Eleanor 47 are in the 1850 census in Kentucky, Davies Co. Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDHARFOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 10/13/2006 8:05:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gregdawn@pathwaynet.com writes: > I was hoping that I could find a link between John and Benjamin, but on > further looking at census information, there has turned out to be 2 Benj. Payne Dawn I would say that John Paybe is related to both. The two Benjamins are: Benjamin N Payne married Mary Cathcart 16 Jan 1829 Benjamin Payne married Eleanor and moved to Kentucky about 1846. >From the land records: Benj appointed John Payne his attorney in 1846 before going to Kentucky when he still lived in York Co, PA In 1846 (later) John & Eleanor transferred land to Belnjamin Payne of Harford Co. In 1847, Alice Payne of PA and relict of John Payne, sold to Benjamin Payne (her son), which was the same land that John got in 1822 from the family members. (So John is Alice's son also). In 1847, Benjamin and Eleanor Payne of Daviss Co, KY sold to John Payne. In 1847, Benjamin & Mary of Harford Co, MD sold land with others (heirs of William Cathcart) Benjamin 55 and Eleanor 47 are in the 1850 census in Kentucky, Davies Co. Mike