:o) If you saw the last few posts, you have GOT, as Paul Harvey would say "The Rest of the Story" Good Day! -------Original Message------- From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 17:45:12 To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Sines - McCrobie (Rodeheaver + Friend) Bonnie Yes I have been following everything on the web and making files because everyone coming in here does not have a computer or if they do are not on line. The reason this seems so familiar but don't know anything about the family, never looked it up, my son & I live on the place where the ones buried at Sand Spring once lived, then I think John or Charles Burch lived there when my in laws bought it, then my husband & I bought it in the 60's and now my son has it. My grandfather & dad remembered going there with the lantern at night and visiting. Sorry, just a little tidbit to ease your cold water splashes. Shirley Friend-Drent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie McCroby Wuensche" <mccroby@hotmail.com> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Sines - McCrobie (Rodeheaver + Friend) > Shirely - Hmmm - have you been following this line of posts? I see they are > attached.. I am surprised you would know her as Sevilla Sines. I have her > married to Charles Edward McCrobie - and I thought that was a second mariage > I had a DOB of abt 1863 - so it sure seems like the same one. > > Kathleen responded to my earlier post didn't have a Sevilla "Sines"... > > The Sevilla I am working on was born Rodeheaver, then married to Elijah > Sines (who didn't die until 1940), then to Charles Mc - 21 Feb 1908, where > her name on the marriage appears as Sevilla Rodeheaver Sines (according to > another researcher). Because Rodeheaver is another of pedigree line, I > couldn't determine if Rodeheaver was a maiden name or a middle name - I didn > t have a father for her - although I have since discovered that. > > You say she is buried at Sands Spring? Is it possible she could be buried > under a different name? This is strange. Is there a DOD with that DOB? > > I don't have a DOD for Charles... is it possible she remarried Elijah? > > The Sevilla Rodeheaver I have is the daughter of John Columbus Rodeheaver > and Delilah Friend - so I would suspect she would be in the Friend Family > Association...? > > Eeeekkk! I need to go slash my face with some cold water! > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 14:41:18 > To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Sines - McCrobie (Rodeheaver + Friend) > > Bonnie > I don't know if we are talking about the same Sevilla m. to Elijah Sines > from GC (Friendsville) lived on Teets Rd. but she is buried at Sand Spring > Cemetery and DOB says Aug 31, 1862. Sorry if the wrong one. > Shirley Drent > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie McCroby Wuensche" <mccroby@hotmail.com> > To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Sines - McCrobie (Rodeheaver + Friend) > > > > Sorry, it has been so long since this was posted, but I finally have > > determined that you are right, Sevilla is indeed a Rodeheaver, and her > > marriage to Elijah Sines is where the name Sevilla Sines comes from. She > IS > > the daughter of John Rodeheaver and Delilah Friend. > > > > Now that her identity is established, can anyone provide more info on her > > date of birth beyond "1863"? And children born, whether to her marriage to > > Elijah Sines or Charles Edward McCrobie? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, June 16, 2003 14:24:15 > > To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Sines - McCrobie > > > > Hi Bonnie, > > You said: > > "..I am trying to determine if Rodeheaver was her middle name or a maiden > > name and she was a widow at the time of her marriage...." > > . > > I have Sevilla's first husband, Elijah Sines, listed as having died > > Nov.12.1940. > > Thus she wasn't a widow when she married her second husband, Charles > Edward > > McRoby, on Feb.21.1908. > > . > > You said: > > "...Since both of Charles' wives last name were Sines, it would seem that > > perhaps the two women were either sisters, or sisters-in-law. Any help > > here?..." > > . > > O.K., let me walk you through this: > > Sevilla's 1st husband, Elijah Sines, is the s/o William Jonas Sines, (my > > hubby's 2xgreat-grandfather) > > gs/o Major Henry Sines and the nephew of Leonard Sines. > > Rheua Belle Sines was the d/o James Leonard Sines, gd/o the above Leonard > > Sines, ggd/o Major Henry Sines. > > Thus Sevilla's 1st husband Elijah Sines is the 1C1R (1st cousin once > > removed ) of Rheua Belle Sines. > > As for any relationship between Rheua and Sevilla: other than both were > > married to Charles, > > right now I would just say Sevilla was the ex-wife of Rheua's 1C1R. > > Off hand I personally don't think SINES was this Sevilla's maiden name. > > If it is her maiden name then I can't place her among any of the Sines > > families out of Garrett Co. at this point. > > Maybe she is from one of the Preston Co. Sines lines that I haven't > tracked > > yet? > > Major Henry Sines (founding father of the Garrett Co. Sines) once lived in > > Preston Co. > > His homeplace was located at present day Cranesville. > > There were other Sines families in Preston Co. however at the time he > moved > > his family to Garrett, and I have several cases of Sines women, (not > > descended from Major Henry) out of Preston Co. that married into Garrett > Co. > > families. > > . > > Do you have a birth place for your Sevilla? I'm afraid I just haven't had > a > > chance to really work on her yet. > > I suspect she was a Rodeheaver out of a family from another county/state > > besides Garrett Co., MD. > > You know, Elijah Sines & family had not always lived in Garrett Co. MD. > > His father, William Jonas Sines, was born in Preston Co. but moved to > > Garrett as a child. After the Civil War, when Elijah was about 12 or so, > his > > parents moved to a remote area in Upshur Co. WV along with several other > > families from Garrett. > > Of father William's nine sons, only two lived out their lives in Upshur > Co > > > > however. > > The other seven sons had either stayed in Garrett or they returned to > > Garrett as young adults to live. > > Even father William himself returned to Garrett Co. after his wife, Eliza > > (Johnson) Sines, died in Upshur Co. in 1907. > > He then lived out the rest of his long life in Garrett Co., dying there > when > > nearly 101 years old. > > Elijah Sines had returned earlier to Garrett as a young man. He is found, > at > > nearly 21 yrs of age, living in Garrett Co.with his older brother John in > > the 1880 census. > > . > > I know that there are Rodeheaver families, some out of Preston Co., who > once > > lived in (or still do) in Upshur Co. WV. > > You might want to consider checking them out as a family source for your > > Sevilla if she doesn't fit into any of the Garrett Co. Rodeheavers. > > In fact, I would suggest you look into the John & Delilah Rodeheaver > family > > that lived in Pleasant, Preston Co. WV. > > They have a daughter named Savilla who is the right age. > > They are listed in the 1880 census under the spelling of RODEHAVER that > > year, (the Sines in Garrett were listed as SIGNS that year) and their > > daughter Savilla is listed as age 16 or b: abt. 1864. > > Your Sevilla was b: Sep.10.1863 so this could be a match. Worth a look > into. > > Elijah Sines had several Sines aunts & uncles living in Preston Co. and I > > think he may have had a tie to the Pleasant area through his Uncle William > > Cupp. > > His Uncle Leonard Sines, Rheua's grandfather, lived in Portland until > > elderly. And of course, both Rheua & her father James Leonard Sines were > > born in Preston Co. The Sines families, though scattered about, remained > > close knit, so Elijah could have met up with Sevilla outside of Garrett > Co. > > > > Right now the only "Sivilla/Sevilla/Savilla Sines" that I have in my Sines > > database is the granddaughter of William Jonas Sines. > > I am certain that this Sivilla was not married to Charles however. > > She was b: Apr.11.1894 over in Goshen, Upshur Co. WV, where she lived out > > her life, dying there when only 28 yrs old on Aug.11.1922. > > . > > Hope I have given you some good leads, meanwhile I will keep my eyes open > > for your Sevilla. > > Bye for now, > > Kathleen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bonnie McCroby Wuensche <mccroby@hotmail.com> > > To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:11 AM > > Subject: [MDGARRET] Sines - McCrobie > > > > > > > I am looking for a Sevilla Rodeheaver Sines, who married Charles Edward > > > McCrobie on 21 Feb 1908. > > > > > > She is his second wife. The first wife was Rheua Belle Sines, and their > > > marriage was 5 May 1895. She and Charles had 5 children, Theodore, > Oakey, > > > Jasper, Russell and Ray. > > > > > > I am trying to determine if Rodeheaver was her middle name or a maiden > > name > > > and she was a widow at the time of her marriage. I have not been able to > > fit > > > her into my Rodeheaver line, and she would be a cousin of some degree of > > > mine. > > > > > > Since both of Charles' wives last name were Sines, it would seem that > > > perhaps the two women were either sisters, or sisters-in-law. Any help > > here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > > > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list > > administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? 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