In a message dated 11/16/2003 5:43:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, gradya3@yahoo.com writes: > The industry is just trying to bully everyone into getting dv cameras and > dvd players when gazillions of us want to use our existing tapes, cameras and > players so when we are done and want to show our tapes to people they pretty > much all have a vcr. Art, I agree. This is the area where we need to focus. Hopefully I will learn something tomorrow. The new VCRs have both the VHS and DVD capability and they are a lot less expensive than they used to be. Lois Hetrick Stewart