I agree with you Lois, 100%!!, I myself have done research for both my husband's family and my own, and had a lot of information gathered, pretaining to what I needed, but much of what didn't compute. When I finished gathering my family, I made a mistake in giving it to one of my male relatives, who carried our name. He took the information and used it for his benefit, and claimed it for his own. After that, I decided to give it to the genealogical libraries in the areas that it would do the most good. I think we all have to clean out our collections once in a while, or it would be overwhelming our 'space', and gotten lost. They were very grateful. Marylynn Glover, NY From: "Phillip & Isabelle White" Reply-To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Art Grady's story & self-publishing Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:25:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.39]) by mc7-f29.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:45:25 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id hABFiMvN024649;Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:44:22 -0700 X-Message-Info: vAu4ZEtdRih+mMIgEA8EpCn9456NU9cZ Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:44:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: pwhite@rtcol.com Tue Nov 11 08:44:21 2003 Message-ID: <005701c3a869$ebb44c00$0db2dfd8@pwhite> Old-To: References: <67.1b9bed3b.2cdc1a21@aol.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7402 X-Loop: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: MDGARRET-L-request@rootsweb.com Return-Path: MDGARRET-L-request@rootsweb.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2003 15:45:25.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[D31DA140:01C3A86A] Lois - You ponder about what to do with all the information (genealogical) that you have accumulated. I know your quandry. Having worked as a Genealogical Department head at a library, I suggest you box up that which you don't need and take it to your local library if they have a Genealogy Department. It would be a sad day if all the work you have put in collecting this information were lost. And I know also that like practically every genealogist, you will accumulate a lot of information that doesn't apply to your family. Fortunately it might help someone else out. Phil White ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Art Grady's story & self-publishing >Art, > >I really enjoyed your story in response to the Walt Warnick situation. >Thanks. Information/stories like this have a lot of merit. The research we've all >done is very valuable . . . however, that value is directly related to the >marketability of the publication involved. > >I do know a little about publishing, but am no way an expert. For a publisher >to publish a book, they look at probable profit from sales. If they buy the >publishing rights of the book, they are commiting thousands of dollars to the >project. I believe I heard $25,000 initially. They also have guidelines as to >the length of a book (fiction 250-300 pgs; I don't know about family >histories). Some of the publishers of books I have are still with us and might be able >to give some idea of cost. They are usually very busy and difficult to reach. > >I have several file cabinets, boxes, disks and CDs of valuable family history >sitting around here. It's valuable to me . . . and I'm sure it would also be >valuable to others who are interested in the same surnames and connections, >but I doubt that anyone in my family would do anything with all of this >material. I'm still trying to figure out what to do about all of it in the case >something should happen to me. I plan to put my information in a publishing format >when I have the time, but until then what does one do? It could certainly be >all boxed up to give to some interested party, but who would that be? I could >always put a note in my will. > >If one should get to the point where they are ready to be published, someone >can easily pick up the project and run with it. If a publisher takes it on, it >could mean a significant amount of money. If it's self-published, it could be >a different matter altogether. > >I have prepared manuscripts on disks for writers to send to a publisher. The >client has a limited number printed to sell first. In the meantime the >publisher is evaluating the book to decide whether they will take the plunge. > >Many of our kinfolk have self-published their books. If the information is >put on disk ready to print, many copy houses have the capacity to print them >from one's disk in smaller quantities fairly resonable (hundreds of dollars vs. >thousands). I have been involved in three such projects. The cost will vary >depending on the software used, the skill of the person in laying out the copy on >disk, and the copy (or print) shop doing the actual printing, and financial >esources available. Anyway . . . a little information for anyone whose >interested in pursuing self-publishing. > >Lois Hetrick Stewart > > >==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure >to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)

Art Grady's further bit of input. Libraries pretty much always accept gifts on an "unconditional" basis, meaning the nice smiling person who says, "sure, we'll take it", doesn't necessarily mean, "sure, we'll keep it." If you are thinking of giving genealogy files to your library, talk to them to see if they have more (demonstrating institutional interest and committment), if they will commit to keeping your treasures, and what their practices will be for making them available to researchers. You may want to work up the library food chain to a larger library, a special genealogy archive, or some such organization that makes you feel sure your materials won't end up pooffffff, gone with the wind, in a few months, years, or decades. Maybe drop a gazillion on kinkos and give a copy. Art Marylynn Glover <mickey14710@hotmail.com> wrote: I agree with you Lois, 100%!!, I myself have done research for both my husband's family and my own, and had a lot of information gathered, pretaining to what I needed, but much of what didn't compute. When I finished gathering my family, I made a mistake in giving it to one of my male relatives, who carried our name. He took the information and used it for his benefit, and claimed it for his own. After that, I decided to give it to the genealogical libraries in the areas that it would do the most good. I think we all have to clean out our collections once in a while, or it would be overwhelming our 'space', and gotten lost. They were very grateful. Marylynn Glover, NY From: "Phillip & Isabelle White" Reply-To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Art Grady's story & self-publishing Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:25:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.39]) by mc7-f29.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:45:25 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id hABFiMvN024649;Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:44:22 -0700 X-Message-Info: vAu4ZEtdRih+mMIgEA8EpCn9456NU9cZ Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:44:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: pwhite@rtcol.com Tue Nov 11 08:44:21 2003 Message-ID: <005701c3a869$ebb44c00$0db2dfd8@pwhite> Old-To: References: <67.1b9bed3b.2cdc1a21@aol.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7402 X-Loop: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: MDGARRET-L-request@rootsweb.com Return-Path: MDGARRET-L-request@rootsweb.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2003 15:45:25.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[D31DA140:01C3A86A] Lois - You ponder about what to do with all the information (genealogical) that you have accumulated. I know your quandry. Having worked as a Genealogical Department head at a library, I suggest you box up that which you don't need and take it to your local library if they have a Genealogy Department. It would be a sad day if all the work you have put in collecting this information were lost. And I know also that like practically every genealogist, you will accumulate a lot of information that doesn't apply to your family. Fortunately it might help someone else out. Phil White ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Art Grady's story & self-publishing >Art, > >I really enjoyed your story in response to the Walt Warnick situation. >Thanks. Information/stories like this have a lot of merit. The research we've all >done is very valuable . . . however, that value is directly related to the >marketability of the publication involved. > >I do know a little about publishing, but am no way an expert. For a publisher >to publish a book, they look at probable profit from sales. If they buy the >publishing rights of the book, they are commiting thousands of dollars to the >project. I believe I heard $25,000 initially. They also have guidelines as to >the length of a book (fiction 250-300 pgs; I don't know about family >histories). Some of the publishers of books I have are still with us and might be able >to give some idea of cost. They are usually very busy and difficult to reach. > >I have several file cabinets, boxes, disks and CDs of valuable family history >sitting around here. It's valuable to me . . . and I'm sure it would also be >valuable to others who are interested in the same surnames and connections, >but I doubt that anyone in my family would do anything with all of this >material. I'm still trying to figure out what to do about all of it in the case >something should happen to me. I plan to put my information in a publishing format >when I have the time, but until then what does one do? It could certainly be >all boxed up to give to some interested party, but who would that be? I could >always put a note in my will. > >If one should get to the point where they are ready to be published, someone >can easily pick up the project and run with it. If a publisher takes it on, it >could mean a significant amount of money. If it's self-published, it could be >a different matter altogether. > >I have prepared manuscripts on disks for writers to send to a publisher. The >client has a limited number printed to sell first. In the meantime the >publisher is evaluating the book to decide whether they will take the plunge. > >Many of our kinfolk have self-published their books. If the information is >put on disk ready to print, many copy houses have the capacity to print them >from one's disk in smaller quantities fairly resonable (hundreds of dollars vs. >thousands). I have been involved in three such projects. The cost will vary >depending on the software used, the skill of the person in laying out the copy on >disk, and the copy (or print) shop doing the actual printing, and financial >esources available. Anyway . . . a little information for anyone whose >interested in pursuing self-publishing. > >Lois Hetrick Stewart > > >==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure >to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard