Pat I remember reading in one of your books a story about the settlement of Friendsville and it mentioned John Brobst as running a Furnace. He later moved to Oakland. I think his wife was Mary Friend. The Elizabeth Friend living in her household in 1850 might be a relative of hers. Joseph and Elizabeth's daughter Lavina married William Frank Brobst and had 14 children. They are buried in the cemetery at the corner of Toothpick Road and Glen Dale Road. Lavina's brother John Jeremiah Lish married Mary E. Friend and had three children. Do you have anything on the Mary Friend that married John Brobst. I'll have to start digging into the Brobst, Friend connection to see what I can find. Mary

Hi Mary Joseph Lish was born 1824 in Baden, Germany and died 1886 in Friendsville, He m. Elizabeth A. born 1828 in MD d 1889 in Friendsville. >From Mary King 2000 Joseph Liish, white male age 56 b. Baden Germany1880 census living in GC Other members of the Family Lish, Elisa A. Wife 52 yrs. old MD Josiah son 21 yrs. old b WV John J. son 15 yrs. old b MD Brice S. son 10 yrs old b. MD Emma dau 19 yr b. WV Lilly dau 8 yrs old b. MD Elizabeth A. Middle initial from deed recorded 31 Aug. 1883. Later she has children of Joseph Lish & Eliz A. are Mary A. b. Jan 1854 MD d. 1914 MD Eulalia b. abt 1855 d. unk Josiah b. 1859 in WV d unk Emma Lish b. 1861 in WV d unk m. FNU Runyan d. un John Jeremiah b. 6 Apr 1865 Friendsville d 18 Sept 1938 in Friendsville Brice S. b. 1870 MD d unk Lillie b. 1872 MD d unk No mention who Eliz. parents were John J. Lish s/o Jeremiah Jr. in Neb. 1906 no further info John Jeremiah Lish s/o Joseph & Elizabeth Lish m. Mary Ellen Friend. They lived in Friendsville most of their lives & are buried at Blooming Rose. Jeremiah Lish Sr. b. Germany abt 1790. His wife's name was Annie ? The following children immigrated w/him Jeremiah Lish, Jr. m. Rebecca Lee 17 Apr. 1853. d/o Frederick & Sarah Irons Lee Frank Lewis Lish did not marry Mary Lish m. 1. Johnson King 9 Dec 1885 2 John O. Harvey 16 Mar 1904 Catherine Lish did not marry Wilhelmine Lish m. Heinrich L. Killius Caroline Lish m. Henry Horner Charles Lish m. Sara Sophia Badley Joseph Lish m. Elizabeth A.? Grace Lish m. Mr. Mutler Philip N. Lish m. Margaret Cecelia Jane Dolly Louise Lish nothing found per Mary King

OK - here are some other Isaac Paughs: 1860 CENSUS ---------------------- #1. 1860 Indiana, Ripley, Brown Twp) Dwelling 1013 Family 1013 Line 39 Isaac Paugh, age 70, M, b MD Line 40 (blank) (above him, on Line 27 is Mariah? Paugh, age 26, M, b IN, with Elizabeth 24, Sarah and Squire? age 2) (No other Paughs on page before or after) #2. 1860 Virginia, Wetzel, Proctor PO Dwelling 746 Family 747 Line 32 Isaac Paugh, age 49, M, Do (Farmer) b VA Sophronia ", age 47, F, " Andrew J ", age 28, M, " Catherine ", age 17, F, " Alfred ", age (looks like 16, but could be 11), M, " Joseph ", age 9, M, " Zeri ", 6, M, " Jason ", age 4, M, " George ", age 3, M, " (next page, same family) Samuel W Paugh, age 49, M, Farmer, b VA 1870 CENSUS ---------------------- #3. 1870 West Virginia, Preston, Portland, Portland Twp Dwelling 260 Family 265 Line 35 Paugh, Isaac, age 56, M, W, Farmer, b VA " , Ruth age 57, F, W, Keeping House, b VA " , Mary M, age 30, F, W, At Home, b VA " , Marjory E, age 26, F, W, At Home, b VA ", Sarah E?, age 20, F, W, At Home, b VA " William H? age 17, M, W, At Home, b VA (next page) Paugh, Margaret G? age 14, F, W, At Home, b VA (Also, I later found him in 1860 as Paught, Isaac D, age 45, Farmer, with the same wife and children, and James Paugh, age 63 Day Laborer, b VA) (#2B.) 1870 West Virginia, Wetzel, Proctor Twp, Proctor PO Paugh, Isaac, age 58 (same family as #2 above) (SLIPPING IN HERE - I FORGOT THE 1880 and 1900) Go to the bottom of this message... so the numbering stays the same. 1910 CENSUS ---------------------- #4. & #5. 1910 Indiana - 2 Isaacs - details on request Paugh, Isaac, age 55 M Wm b IN (Boone Co) Paugh, Isaac, age 57, M, W, b IN (Switzerland Co) #6. 1910 Maryland, Garrett, Swanton Dwelling 151 Family 159 Line 40 Paugh, Isaac, Head, M, W, age 50 S, b MD, MD, MD, Farmer ", Nicholas, Father, M, W, age 80, M2, MD, MD, MD, Farmer Laborer ", Mary J, Step Mother, F, W, age 69, M1, WV, WV, WV, None #7. 1910 West Virginia, Barbour, Elk Dwelling 107 Family 107 Line 80 Paugh, Isaac, Head, M, W, age 63, S, WV, WV, WV, Farmer ", Daniel O, Nephew, M, W, age 24, S, WV, WV, WV, Teacher ", Isaac J, Nephew, M, W, age 22, S, WV, WV, WV, Farmer Laborer Wymer, Emma, Niece, F, W, age 35, S, WV, WV, WV, House Keeper #8. 1910 Maryland, Garrett, 10th Dist Dwelling 8 Family 8 Line 38 Paugh, Isaac A, Head, M, W, age 54, M2, MD, MD, MD, Farmer ", Perlina, Wife, F, W, age 35?, M1, MD, MD, MD, None ", Effie E, Daughter, F, W, 30, S, MD, MD, WV, None ", Harry F, Son, M, W, 20, MD, MD, WV, Farmer Laborer ", Carroll, Son, M, W, 16, S, MD, MD, MD, None ", Ernest, Son, M, W, 13, S, MD, MD, MD, None ", Robert, Son, M, W, 11, S, MD, MD, MD, None ", Edna J, Daughter, F, W, 9, S, MD, MD, MD, None ", Charles A, Son, M, W, 7, S, MD, MD, MD, None ", Minnie V, Daughter, F, W, 4, S, MD, MD, MD, None ", Allen S?, Son, M, W, 2, S, MD, MD, MD, None (Dwelling 9 Family 9 is Benjamin F and Hester A Paugh) #9. 1910 West Virginia, Harrison, Union Dwelling 160 Family 160 Line 15 Paugh, Isaac S, Head, M, W, age 66, M1, WV, WV, WV, Farmer ", Hannah V?, Wife, F, W, age 57, M1, WV, VA, VA, None ", Wayne, Grandson, M, W, age 12, S, WV, WV, WV, Farm Laborer 1920 CENSUS ---------------------- (#8B.) 1920 Maryland, Garrett, Deer Park Paugh, Isaac A, W M age 65 (same family as #8 above) #10. 1920 West Virginia, Barbour, Elk Paugh, Isaac M, Head, M, W, age 31, WV, WV, WV, Farmer Greathouse, Mary, Mother, F, W, age 61, WV, WV, WV, Farmer Watkins, Hester, Cousin, F, W, 67, WV, WV, WV, None (I think this could be the same as Isaac J, who is living as a Nephew with Isaac #7 above) 1880 CENSUS ---------------------- #11. 1880 Maryland, Garrett, Oakland Dwelling 65 Family 68 Line 19 Paw, Isaac, W, M, age 23, Son, At Home, MD, MD, WV (enumerated with Nicholas Paw) I am not sure which one this is - I haven't seen a match above.) ...(I am not going to finish these right now. Having a little wellness problem. Let me know if you want to go on)... But there is an Isaac Paugh with a wife named Ann in WV Barbour Co - and - Isaac Paugh age 65 with a wife named Sarah B (all b WV) - and - of course Isaac Paugh. age 68, b VA, mentioned elsewhere with a wife named Safrona - and - Isaac S Paugh, age 36, b WV with a wife named Hannah I'm not going to get to the 1900 at all. Check with you later. OK - that makes approx 11 so far (different) - but NO reason to believe any of them are McCrobie... Later, Bonnie

Mary, You have probably already searched the census but thought I would send this along anyway. I have the 1880 Garrett County census book published by the DAR. Selbysport- LISCH, Joseph, 56; Elisabeth A. 52; Josiah, son, 21; Emma, daughter, 19; John J., son,15; Price S., 11, son; Lilly, daughter, 8. Next door: Andrew Friend, 23, and Mary A. (LISH, right? d/o Elisabeth and Jospeh?) 26, and their daughter Anita, 1. Interesting: I found Samuel PRICE Friend, s/o Andrew Coleman Friend, Jr. and Mary E. Ross and Samuel was a brother-in-law of Mary A. Lish Friend. Isiah Friend, 53, also lives four houses from Elizabeth A. Lish. Isiah is the son of Jonathan Friend 1787-1879 and Elizabeth Kinsie 1802-1890 and they have a daughter Elizabeth. I have a birth year of 1833 (not my work) and no husband for her. Hmmmmmmmmm? Elizabeth has a sister, Anna Elizabeth b. 1838 d. 1919 m. Elijah Friend. Wonder if the other daughter was Elizabeth Anna? I have seen this type of naming pattern before. Pat-T

SAM! SAM! SAM! That's for the 3 great responses you posted about the Isaac/Betsey/Paugh scenario. Great stuff - I followed it every step of the way. Well - at least Isaac or Betsey isn't MY direct ancestor - that would really be frustrating! I will pour over the material again. One of the dumbest things I ever did was to mix so much of my material with Sander's. Not merging - actually changing. We have had our differences over the years... oh well, live and learn. Here is some little comments to your last post. I will work on the other stuff later. Thanks, Bon -------Original Message------- From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 20:56:44 To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SAM BOWSER Re: [MDGARRET] Isaac Allen Paugh & Betsy Mcrobie >I haven't found but 1 Isaac Allen Paugh, and he was the son of >James Edward. Yes - I agree. I told Pat Thompson she had an extra generation in there, when I saw this on her files, and after aqainting myself with all the data, I take that back. It appears that except for an older Isaac Paugh - the one we have been discussing belongs here. > ID: I00962 > Name: Elizabeth MCCROBIE > Sex: F > Birth: ABT. 1838 > Birth: 1825 > Death: > Reference Number: 962 > Note: They called her Betsey Interesting thing here - Sanders has Elizabeth born in 1838, and Ellen born in 1848 - er, she was only 10 years old!!! > Wonder why she concluded he was married to a Furley? From another researcher - and she has Michael's middle name as Furley. > The 1870 census indicates he was born in MD in 1868. > Note that Mrs. Sanders source: "Paugh.ftw". So it was a > Family Tree Maker file. So she was using a computer and a > genealogy program. This is scary, so brace yourself. All the information is on reams of paper and in her head! She doesn't have a genealogy program. She doesn't have a computer. That is why there are so many typos and spelling errors in the book. The typing for the printer was done by her son's secretary in her spare time. The information on the Ancestry file was done by another researcher, a son-in-law of a McRobie cousin who lives in Waterloo. A generous and tedious job - but only as good as the files he had to work with (which is what I have xeroxes of). > I think I (finally) see what happened here. Yes - you do - and now so do I. this following statement about Paugh being a highly useful man is directly quoted in her work. There are little to no sources in her book as there "were too many to mention". I always wondered where this strange wording came from --- > This is born out by his statement concerning "Isaac" > on page 432: > "Before her marriage to Philip Paugh, Betsy McRobie had a > son, known as Isaac Paugh, a useful and highly honored man, > who became a Methodist minister and bishop of his church." About Elisha's name being Elisha DeWitt McCrobie: beats me! Sanders has his mother's name simply as Mary. Maybe she is Mary DeWitt? Hmmm - any DeWitt Researchers out there? And THANK YOU so much for that information about Azsenath beiong a Davis. I have seen that on Shirley Tasker's file at Ancestry, but she didn't remember where she got it. This is reat. I love to fill in those blanks. Thanks again for everything - you are a real detail-person, and I like that! Have a good day!

Seems like there was even another one - born much earlier - but none seems to be a McCrobie ------------ Bonnie, I also have an Isaac Paugh, 1788-1866, died in Ripley Co. Indiana. I list him as the son of Johannes Paugh I and Sarah ?. His parents died in Deer Park MD 1860 and abt. 1825 respectively. And this Isaac. (Census report transcribed by Sam, I think) Isaac resided in Preston County, VA in 1850. 1850 census, Preston County, Virginia, District 45, Page 448A, Ancestry.com Image 221, taken Oct. 11, 1850. All born in VA; neither parent able to read or write. 1275/ 1275 "Isaac Paugh", WM age 34 (1816), Farmer, no Real Estate. "Ruth Paugh", WF age 36 (1814), born in VA. "Mary M.", WF age 11 (1839). "Margery", WF age 6 (1844). "Rebecca", WF age 3 (1847). "Sarah E.", WF 6/12 (born about March 1850).

Mary wrote: Jeremiah Lish. He had a son Joseph Lish (Losh) listed in the 1850 Census for Oakland Maryland and living in the residence of John and Mary Brobst. He is listed as being 25 and born in Germany. Also living in the same residence is Elizabeth Friend age 22 born in Maryland. ------------------- Hi Mary, I went through my files again and still can't find this Elizabeth A. Friend. I found in the "Graves of Garrett Co. MD by DAR: Lish, Joseph F, 1824-1886 buried beside Elizabeth, 1828-1889, at the Blooming Rose cemetery, near Friendsville. I know you already know this, but in looking at the cemetery listing I noticed they are buried among the graves of Frie families (I have nothing for them) and the Uphold and Schroyer family graves. The Uphold, Schroyer and Friend lines cross often. I don't have anything listed for possible marriages early enough to include Elizabeth (b. 1828) but you might want to check the possibility that Elizabeth's line of Friends also connected to these family names. There are Forsythe graves nearby too, another possible connection, as I have several Friend-Forsythe marriages. Have you checked with Shirley Drent at the FFAA Library? Pat-T

Yes - at least 2 - I will go look at the info again. Seems like there was even another one - born much earlier - but none seems to be a McCrobie. Whew - liek I said earlier - I am glad this isn't my direct line! :o) Bonnie -------Original Message------- From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, August 14, 2003 07:33:16 To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SAM BOWSER Re: [MDGARRET] Isaac Allen Paugh & Betsy Mcrobie Sam wrote: I haven't found but 1 Isaac Allen Paugh, and he was the son of James Edward. This obit is on the Garrett County Home Page March 12, 1936 Columbus Lafayette PAUGH Columbus Lafayette PAUGH passed away at his home near Deep Creek Lake, March 10, 1936. He was 82 years, 2 months, and 17 days, (making birth date ~1853/p.t.) a resident of Deer Park practically all his life. He was a school teacher and later a farmer. Funeral services were held at his residence Thursday, Rev. Archibald MOORE officiating, followed by interment in the Oakland Cemetery. He was a son of James E. PAUGH and Isabel, daughter of Jeremiah ENLOW. Survivors include: his wife,****** Mary L. MOON; children: Wm. O. U., James V., Daisy M., Mrs. Lois SCHENKBOY (Schenk), Auburn, all of Deer Park, Mrs. Emma KIMMEL, of Brocksville, PA. and R. Scott; six brothers and sisters:-------------- Isaac A. ,---------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Harriet HARVEY, Almira, Benjamin F., Robert E., and Mrs. Victoria TASKER, all residents of this county. He was originally a member of the United Brethren Church and then transferred to become an active member of the M. E. Church at Thayerville, some years ago. The PAUGH family was among the earliest settlers of what is now Garrett County; Michael and Johannes (John) PAUGH were listed as settlers East of the Great Backbone when the military lots were surveyed in 1787. They came from Virginia. Mb --------------- Bonnie wrote: As far as I know, Elizabeth - or according to Wilma Sanders, "Betsey" had a > son named Isaac McRobie WITH Philip H Paugh. I have since seen suggestions > that she might have had him before she was married, however, I have this in > my file as her children: > ((Sam wrote: About all I can say there; is the census records don't bear that out.)) (read on down) > Ellen b 1848 > Isiah 2 Aug 1851 > Isaac Allen McCrobie Paugh 1856 > Johnathan Paugh > Clara Paugh > David Paugh > Daniel Paugh ********Graves book, pg. 191 Paugh, Isaac Allen, 1856-1941 buried beside Perlina, 1876-1932 Buried at the Oakland Cemetery, Oakland, MD ----------- It appears to me there were two Isaac Allen Paughs'--- Using the above information - One was born 1853 and the other born 1856. Pat-T ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

Sam wrote: I haven't found but 1 Isaac Allen Paugh, and he was the son of James Edward. This obit is on the Garrett County Home Page March 12, 1936 Columbus Lafayette PAUGH Columbus Lafayette PAUGH passed away at his home near Deep Creek Lake, March 10, 1936. He was 82 years, 2 months, and 17 days, (making birth date ~1853/p.t.) a resident of Deer Park practically all his life. He was a school teacher and later a farmer. Funeral services were held at his residence Thursday, Rev. Archibald MOORE officiating, followed by interment in the Oakland Cemetery. He was a son of James E. PAUGH and Isabel, daughter of Jeremiah ENLOW. Survivors include: his wife,****** Mary L. MOON; children: Wm. O. U., James V., Daisy M., Mrs. Lois SCHENKBOY (Schenk), Auburn, all of Deer Park, Mrs. Emma KIMMEL, of Brocksville, PA. and R. Scott; six brothers and sisters:-------------- Isaac A. ,---------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Harriet HARVEY, Almira, Benjamin F., Robert E., and Mrs. Victoria TASKER, all residents of this county. He was originally a member of the United Brethren Church and then transferred to become an active member of the M. E. Church at Thayerville, some years ago. The PAUGH family was among the earliest settlers of what is now Garrett County; Michael and Johannes (John) PAUGH were listed as settlers East of the Great Backbone when the military lots were surveyed in 1787. They came from Virginia. Mb --------------- Bonnie wrote: As far as I know, Elizabeth - or according to Wilma Sanders, "Betsey" had a > son named Isaac McRobie WITH Philip H Paugh. I have since seen suggestions > that she might have had him before she was married, however, I have this in > my file as her children: > ((Sam wrote: About all I can say there; is the census records don't bear that out.)) (read on down) > Ellen b 1848 > Isiah 2 Aug 1851 > Isaac Allen McCrobie Paugh 1856 > Johnathan Paugh > Clara Paugh > David Paugh > Daniel Paugh ********Graves book, pg. 191 Paugh, Isaac Allen, 1856-1941 buried beside Perlina, 1876-1932 Buried at the Oakland Cemetery, Oakland, MD ----------- It appears to me there were two Isaac Allen Paughs'--- Using the above information - One was born 1853 and the other born 1856. Pat-T

You write: If you are not "local" I bet some of our List members will scout that out for you----when they have time ; ) Good Luck, Carolyn Bonnie: Me? Local? I live in "Wally World" - Bentonville, Arkansas - Home of the World's Largest Retailer - WAL*MART. Yep - they don't call us Arkies here - we are Wal-Martians! Thanks for the good advice. I have never seen any reason to think that Robey is part of the McCrobie Family - but others have suggested it too. So it's not totally out. I did look in NC - and low and behold - there was a Hugh McCroby - he was (various spellings) in at least the 1790 and 1800 - but I can't connect him in. Wow - I wish they would have had ages and names in those early records. But I filed it for another day. Thanks, Carolyn Bonnie

I am researching the family of Jeremiah Lish. He had a son Joseph Lish (Losh) listed in the 1850 Census for Oakland Maryland and living in the residence of John and Mary Brobst. He is listed as being 25 and born in Germany. Also living in the same residence is Elizabeth Friend age 22 born in Maryland. Joseph married a woman named Elizabeth A. This is how she signed the court documents I have pulled from the Oakland Courthouse. I have discussed this with Pat Thompson and we could not connect Joseph with Elizabeth Friend. This past weekend I pulled the death certificate for their son Price Smith Lish. He was born August 29, 1867, in Maryland and married Emma White daughter of Jonathan White and Elizabeth Lower. Price died May 1944 at the age of 76 years, 8 months and 8 days. On his death certificate his father is listed as Joseph Lish born in Germany and his mother as Elizabeth Friend born in Maryland. His wife Emma supplied the information on the Death Certificate. Can anyone help me with the name of Elizabeth's parents? Mary King

I suppose y'all know that Kent Co. was the early early! immigration point in Md. Just get curious~~~~~~ <wink> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/md/kent/census/1790/index.txt =;o) Carolyn in NC

Hi Bonnie: Whew, This is a long one- Bonnie McCroby Wuensche wrote: > Sam! I was just looking for your addy to write you about this. Yes - I have > been looking at Census reports now for a couple of days, and was going to > ask you for a file if you have it. I am trying to figure this one out, and > I have seen the Ron Hoffman file at Ancestry that shows 2 Isaac Allen Paughs > ..etc, etc. I haven't found but 1 Isaac Allen Paugh, and he was the son of James Edward. > > > As far as I know, Elizabeth - or according to Wilma Sanders, "Betsey" had a > son named Isaac McRobie WITH Philip H Paugh. I have since seen suggestions > that she might have had him before she was married, however, I have this in > my file as her children: > About all I can say there; is the census records don't bear that out. (read on down) > > Ellen b 1848 > Isiah 2 Aug 1851 > Isaac Allen McCrobie Paugh 1856 > Johnathan Paugh > Clara Paugh > David Paugh > Daniel Paugh > > Of course, the first 2 at least were born BEFORE her marriage to Phillip - > which are as you state Ellen and Isiah. I am thinking that Wilma has a > mistake here. Her mistake is perpetuated on the Ancestry files. This is what > it has: I think most likely Betsy's son was Isaiah, found twice written that way in census data. Hoye said she had a son Isaac McRobie before her marriage to Philip Paugh. I think Hoye made a mistake where his name is concerned, and it was repeated by later writers. > > > ID: I00962 > Name: Elizabeth MCCROBIE > Sex: F > Birth: ABT. 1838 > Birth: 1825 > Death: > Reference Number: 962 > Note: They called her Betsey > > Father: Elisha Dewitt MCCROBIE , Sr. b: 1791 in Maryland > Mother: Unknown FURLEY > Wonder why she concluded he was married to a Furley? > > Marriage 1 Philip Henry PAUGH b: 1805 > Married: 20 JAN 1855 > Married: 20 JAN 1855 in Cumberland, Maryland 3 2 The marriage date would seem logical. > > Children > Isaac A. MCCROBIE b: 1856 > "Clarissa" age 4 (1856) in the 1860 census and "Jane" age 15 (1855) in 1870 were almost surely the same child. "Hoye" refers to her as "Clara" married to a King. (Wouldn't be surprised if she showed up someplace as "Clara Jane" or "Clarissa Jane.) So it seems unlikely Betsy had a son, Isaac Allen b. 1856. > Johnathan PAUGH b: 1857 1860, 1870, and 1880 census data all indicate he was born in 1858. 1857 is possible, since ages given were to be as of June 1 of the census year. > > Clara PAUGH b: 1858 > Daniel PAUGH b: 1862 "Daniel W." Paugh was only found on his mother's household in the 1870 census. He does not appear in 1880. > > David PAUGH b: 1860 I would be surprised if "David" Paugh age 5 (1865) in 1870; and "David D." age 14 (1866) in 1880; were not the same child. > > Ellen PAUGH b: 1848 1847 according to the 1850 census; either could be right. > > Isiah PAUGH b: 2 AUG 1851 > Seems logical. 1852 in 1860; 1851 in 1870. > Johnathan PAUGH b: 1858 1860, 1870, 1880 all indicate he was born in 1858. > > Daniel Webster PAUGH b: DEC 1862 in Medley, WV The 1870 census indicates he was born in MD in 1868. Note that Mrs. Sanders source: "Paugh.ftw". So it was a Family Tree Maker file. So she was using a computer and a genealogy program. The best way to duplicate individuals in a genealogy program is by importing a gedcom (or .ftw) file. You have to be very careful, and only import small family files at one time, or you end up with duplicate individuals. I think that's what most likely happened in this case. The 1860 Hampshire County census wouldn't have included a child born 1862. One thing you find in all family histories- the closer the writer is to the family discussed, the better the chance of him being right. Looks to me like Betsy McRobie's family wasn't very well researched. The Paugh family history is pathetically full of errors, and not a reliable source at all. > > Sources: > Title: McCrobie/McRobie/McCroby Family History > Author: Wilma Nuzum Sanders > Publication: Published in 1996 > Note: Was researched very thourghly before being published > Note: Primary > Repository: > Note: Waterloo Iowa > Call Number: > Media: Book > Title: Paugh.FTW > Repository: > Call Number: > Media: Other > Text: Date of Import: Feb 28, 1999 > Title: 1860 Census - Hampshire Co > Repository: > Call Number: > Media: Book > ================= > > SAM - NOTICE: There are 2 Daniels in the Family - with the same birth year? > And 2 Johnathans, one b 1857, one b 1858. This is strange indeed. > > This needs some further examination. Here is what I was looking for you for > - I have seen a Census, where there was a Paugh Family with Isaac listed as > McCrobie (spelling?). I can't seem to locate it. I haven't seen anything like that. I have several Isaac Paugh's; only one Isaac Allen, son of James Edward and Isabella (Enlow) Paugh. He was born in Sept., 1855 according to the 1900 census, where he was enumerated at Deer Park. His tombstone says 1856. I think I (finally) see what happened here. The Paugh Family History by George R. Paugh, Sr., page 19; does not list an Isaac as a son of Philip H. & Elizabeth "McCrobie". He lists "Ellen" 1848; Isiah (misspelled) Aug. 2, 1851; Clara or Clarissa 1856; Jonathan, 1858; David Circa 1851; Daniel Circa 1853. This is no doubt where Mrs. Sanders got _some of her dates, which don't all agree with the census data. In a case like this, I would prefer to go with the census data; since pre- sumably the information came directly from the parents and not from someone a hundred years after the fact. Of Isaiah, it says he was a son of Philip H. Paugh. If he was, he must have been a bastard. I think Hoye had it right when he said Betsy had him in 1851 before she married Philip Paugh. PFH says he attended 4 or 5 colleges and was a licensed Methodist pastor. His name is given on page 20 as "Isaiah C." Paugh. Whether a typographical error or misinterpretation, Hoye came up with "Isaac" instead of "Isaiah C.". This is born out by his statement concerning "Isaac" on page 432: "Before her marriage to Philip Paugh, Betsy McRobie had a son, known as Isaac Paugh, a useful and highly honored man, who became a Methodist minister and bishop of his church." So Betsy McCrobie or McRobie had no son Isaac. All of this came about because of a simple error in "Hoye's Pioneer Families". Sam > At the time, I had him as > an "unconnected" McCrobie, never putting him together with Elizabeth until I > saw Wilma Sander's files, which I went to Waterloo and Xeroxed back in 1993. > I have every sheet she used to compile her book, including some information > that was not printed. She was amazed I had the Chutzpah (read "brazen > boldness") to bring my own office-sized copier (and a very long extension > cord) in the station wagon! What could she do except let me bring it into > the dining room? > > So back to Isaac and the Census. Do you have this report with Isaac? For > some reason, I can see it in my head as think about it. And maybe it was in > Pennsylvania - does that make any sense?Because I didn't know where he > belonged, I thought that maybe the Paugh's were going to be some relative - > or step-parents. Can you help me on this? I think I am finally going nuts. > > > Bon > mccroby@hotmail.com > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

Hi Bonnie: Let's start with Elizabeth "Betsy" McRobie being the daughter of Elisha Dewitt McRobie. In fact, I even wonder what proof there is that Elisha's (b. 1791) middle name was Dewitt? A child's mother's maiden name was sometimes used as the middle name of a child; but if Elisha was married to an "unknown Furley", that kind of rules that out. In the 1850 census he was Elisha; in 1860 Elisha D.; 1870 Elisha, and Elisha on his tombstone. I wonder what the connection to the Dewitt's might have been for him to get that middle name? Anyway, regarding "Betsy" being his daughter; I don't know. Education varied so much with the people up to 1900, when school age children were first required to attend school 3 months a year in Garrett County. I think a lot of people actually didn't even know when they were born, according to age variances you find in census data. Then again, if the census taker came around when Mom was working beside Pop in a field 1/4 mile from the house and a 10 year daughter was in the house, he may have gotten his information from children. And, some no doubt lied about their ages. Isaac Allen Paugh I think was one of those who lied when he got married the second time. Elisha D. McRobie's daughter Elizabeth: She appears 12 years old in 1850 (1838); 22 years in 1860 (1838). Two consis- tent years in a row. In 1870 she wasn't in her father's household. Elizabeth "Betsy" McRobie was in Philip Paugh's household in 1860. In 1860 Elisha McRobie's daughter Elizabeth was still at home. In 1850 her year of birth figures to 1827; 1860, 1825; 1870, 1832; 1880, 1828. Again, except for the 1870 census, her age is _fairly consistent- 1825-1828. Just based on the census data, I'd say Elisha McRobie's daughter was probably not the Elizabeth who married Philip Paugh. There is the possibility she may have been born in Virginia (or WV) to another McRobie; or it's possible she was married to a McRobie who had died very young; like the first half of the 1850's. But I doubt if she was Elisha McRobie's daughter. As to Elisha McRobie having married an "unknown Furley"; I also rather doubt that. > From "Charles W. and Neva Layton Harvey" <harvey.c.w@worldnet.att.net> Jan 21 ,2002 > "Asenth "Seine" Davis was born Abt. September 1808 in Hampshire Co., VA. She married > (1) Elisha McRobie. She married (2) George Tasker April 05, 1832, son of Richard Tasker > and Margaret Tasker. He was born Abt. 1811 in Kitzmiller, MD, and died Bef. 1850 in WV. This information can't be accurate either. The 1850; 1860; and 1870 census all three show "Azeneth" or Zenith as the wife of Elisha McRobie. If she was married to George Tasker, she was married to him first; rather than second. The quote above was taken from Marshall Brown's book on the Harvey's; Brown's information regarding the Taskers was quoted directly from Hoye's Pioneer Families. "Hoye" says on page 520 "George Tasker married Seine Davis". So I have Azeneth,-"Zenith"-"Seine" (Davis) Tasker married to Elisha McRobie. Hoye only lists two sons for George Tasker and "Seine" Davis, so I figure George Tasker died sometime before 1850 and Elisha McRobie married his widow. The thing is, all of us who put words on paper make mistakes; family history writers, census takers, preachers who kept church records, those who entered family history in old Bibles long after their ancestors were gone, all of us. Fifty years from now our grandchildren will be sorting through ours. Sam Bonnie McCroby Wuensche wrote: > Sam! I was just looking for your addy to write you about this. Yes - I have > been looking at Census reports now for a couple of days, and was going to > ask you for a file if you have it. I am trying to figure this one out, and > I have seen the Ron Hoffman file at Ancestry that shows 2 Isaac Allen Paughs > ..etc, etc. > > As far as I know, Elizabeth - or according to Wilma Sanders, "Betsey" had a > son named Isaac McRobie WITH Philip H Paugh. I have since seen suggestions > that she might have had him before she was married, however, I have this in > my file as her children: > > Ellen b 1848 > Isiah 2 Aug 1851 > Isaac Allen McCrobie Paugh 1856 > Johnathan Paugh > Clara Paugh > David Paugh > Daniel Paugh > > Of course, the first 2 at least were born BEFORE her marriage to Phillip - > which are as you state Ellen and Isiah. I am thinking that Wilma has a > mistake here. Her mistake is perpetuated on the Ancestry files. This is what > it has: > > ID: I00962 > Name: Elizabeth MCCROBIE > Sex: F > Birth: ABT. 1838 > Birth: 1825 > Death: > Reference Number: 962 > Note: They called her Betsey > > Father: Elisha Dewitt MCCROBIE , Sr. b: 1791 in Maryland > Mother: Unknown FURLEY > > Marriage 1 Philip Henry PAUGH b: 1805 > Married: 20 JAN 1855 > Married: 20 JAN 1855 in Cumberland, Maryland 3 2 > Children > Isaac A. MCCROBIE b: 1856 > Johnathan PAUGH b: 1857 > Clara PAUGH b: 1858 > Daniel PAUGH b: 1862 > David PAUGH b: 1860 > Ellen PAUGH b: 1848 > Isiah PAUGH b: 2 AUG 1851 > Johnathan PAUGH b: 1858 > Daniel Webster PAUGH b: DEC 1862 in Medley, WV > Sources: > Title: McCrobie/McRobie/McCroby Family History > Author: Wilma Nuzum Sanders > Publication: Published in 1996 > Note: Was researched very thourghly before being published > Note: Primary > Repository: > Note: Waterloo Iowa > Call Number: > Media: Book > Title: Paugh.FTW > Repository: > Call Number: > Media: Other > Text: Date of Import: Feb 28, 1999 > Title: 1860 Census - Hampshire Co > Repository: > Call Number: > Media: Book > ================= > > SAM - NOTICE: There are 2 Daniels in the Family - with the same birth year? > And 2 Johnathans, one b 1857, one b 1858. This is strange indeed. > > This needs some further examination. Here is what I was looking for you for > - I have seen a Census, where there was a Paugh Family with Isaac listed as > McCrobie (spelling?). I can't seem to locate it. At the time, I had him as > an "unconnected" McCrobie, never putting him together with Elizabeth until I > saw Wilma Sander's files, which I went to Waterloo and Xeroxed back in 1993. > I have every sheet she used to compile her book, including some information > that was not printed. She was amazed I had the Chutzpah (read "brazen > boldness") to bring my own office-sized copier (and a very long extension > cord) in the station wagon! What could she do except let me bring it into > the dining room? > > So back to Isaac and the Census. Do you have this report with Isaac? For > some reason, I can see it in my head as think about it. And maybe it was in > Pennsylvania - does that make any sense?Because I didn't know where he > belonged, I thought that maybe the Paugh's were going to be some relative - > or step-parents. Can you help me on this? I think I am finally going nuts. > > Bon > mccroby@hotmail.com > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

Bonnie McCroby Wuensche wrote: > Wait - wait --- > > How can Phillip be 60 in 1860 and 41 in 1870? > Or Elizabeth 23 in 1850, 35 in 1860, 38 in 1870 and 52 in 1880 > Amazing things show up in census data. I had another individual, this one a woman; whose age varied by 20 years over 4 censuses and there was no question the records referred to the same woman. Possibilities? Mrs. Paugh gave the census data and wasn't proud of being married to a man so much older than she was. The 1870 and 1880 census both indicate she was illiterate and possibly she didn't honestly know how old she was. The "4" where Philip's age is given as "41" is sloppy. It could have been the census taker intended "71", but his 7's were clearly legible on the previous page. It's also possible someone other than the parents gave the census taker the information. Could have happened for any reason. I don't think there's any doubt but but this is the same Elizabeth (McRobie) Paugh the whole way through all 4 censuses though; and that they had no son Isaac or Isaac Allen Paugh. It's not possible to be certain, but 3 of the 4 census indicate Elizabeth was born in MD. It doesn't appear she was a daughter of Elisha D. McRobie born sometime between 1786 and 1791, either. Sam > > And abt the question of whether Elizabeth was born in MD or VA? Could there > be TWO Elizabeths? In the 1880 Census below, Elizabeth Paugh, widow says she > was born in MD, but Johnathan says his mother is born in VA? Maybe this was > the Enumerator's mistake. Afterlooking at the original - it looks like he > dipped his pen in the ink again between --- well, looks like he filled it > right down the column... nawh, I'm not going to try and guess. > > You write: > > 1850 Federal census, Maryland, Allegany County, Glades District, > page 45a or 89, SK Image 45a, taken Aug. 12, 1850- 608/ 611 > Household of Nelson, age 33; and Sarah Baker age 32- > "Elisabeth McRobie", WF age 23 (1827), born in MD. "Ellen" (McRobie), > WF age 3 (1847), born in MD. > They were living beside Joseph Dewitt, son of John Dewitt. > .............. > 1860 census, Maryland, Allegany County, page 325 or 681, SK Image > 681. *MAY* be the Pleasant Valley area south of Oakland. All born > in MD. None are shown to have attended school. 2362/2295 > "Philip Pough", WM age 60 (1800), Laborer, No Real Estate, $75 Personal. > "Elizabeth", WF age 35 (1825). "Ellen", WF age 12 (1848). "Isaiah", WM > age 8 (1852). "Clarissa", WF age 4 (1856). "Jonathan H.", WM age 2 (1858). > > Neighbors- William and Druscilla (Harvey) Lower; Thompson, Henry, & > Nathan Lower; Joseph, John G. & Isaac King; John Frey, Samuel McGiffin; > PHILIP POUGH; Nelson Murphy; Mary Moore, Theophilus Wilt, Johnson > White. > ............... > 1870 Federal census, Election District 10, Oakland Post Office, Page 5, SK > Image 291A, taken Aug. 30, 1870, the area of Bethlehem Church. All born > in MD. All family members are shown unable to read. 27/ 27 > "Paugh, Phillip", WM age appears to be "41" (1829), Farmer, no Real Estate, > $700 Personal Estate. "Elizabeth", WF age 38 (1832), Keeps House. "Isaiah", > WM age 19 (1851), Farm Work. "Jane", WF age 15 (1855), Domestic Work, > attended school. "Jonathan", WM age 12 (1858), Farm Work, attended > school. "David", WM age 5 (1865). "Daniel W.", WM age 2 (1868). > "Ellen" may have been married by 1870, since she doesn't appear. > Enumerated just before Elisha Harvey, son of Nathaniel Harvey. This places > them in the area of Bethlehem Church. > ................. > 1880 Federal census, Maryland, Garrett County, Ryan's Glade, District 100, > page 8, SK Image 100-08, taken June 18, 1880. Dwelling 53, Family 69 > "Paugh, Elizabeth H.", WF age 52 (1828), Widow, Keeping House, unable > to write, born in MD, Father born in MD, Mother born in VA. "Jonathan", > WM age 22 (1858), Son, Married, Farmer, born in MD, Father born in MD, > Mother born in VA (NOTE: above, Elizabeth is shown to have been born > in MD). "Rebecca", WF age 19 (1861), "Daughter Law", Married, At Home, > born in MD, Father born in MD, Mother b. VA. > For some reason a separate Family Visit "70" was entered on the next line, > but the Dwelling number remained the same; 53. "David D." (Paugh), WM > age 14 (1866), Son, Single, At Home, born in MD, Father born in MD, > Mother born in VA. > So from this census record it's not clear whether Elizabeth was born in MD > or Virginia. The family was enumerated between Benjamin and Isaac Moon, > placing them on Bethlehem Church Road just north of the intersection of > Combination Road. -SJB Aug., 2003. > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

Bonnie, Thanks for the boost to my morale! And-----did you ever explore southern Md. for Robey/Robe????? I know there were some early ones there. Our area got an influx of people from Charles Co., Md. in late 1700's----my Carrico being one of them; Duval was another southern Md'er. Look thru this url and see what you find: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/md/ Try Charles, Calvert, St. Marys, Pr. George and Statewide click ons. Also, Alice Proudfoot had a Robe/y in her family and since she was an active member of the Garrett DAR some of her material may be with their records. If you are not "local" I bet some of our List members will scout that out for you----when they have time ; ) Good Luck, Carolyn Bonnie McCroby Wuensche wrote: > Carolyn - you are just a wonder at finding new things. I can never get old > Wm McCrobie out of Maryland - so I wonder... > > Thanks for the good idea. I will report on any progress I make! > > Bonnie > > -------Original Message------- > > From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 13:03:03 > To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDGARRET] Kelly & Inloes in NC census > > Since John Kelley of Preston Co., WV, is said to descend from a family who > came from Ireland to NC before the Rev. War, I found this census > interesting; especially since another of the surnames listed is Inloes. > Anyone have insight into this????????? =;o) Carolyn > > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/craven/census/crav1790.txt > This census is from Microcopy No. T-498 Roll 2 > 1790 census North Carolina > Craven County Newbern District > 1st # free white males 16 year upwards and head of > families > 2nd # free white males under 16 years > 3rd # free white females and head of families > 4th # all other free persons > 5th # slaves > > Kelly, Joseph, 0,0,0,2,0 > == > Also, Hoover, King, Neale, Parsons, Stanton, Wade, Cummins, > St. Leger, Connor, Rhodes----oh my, too many familiar names----could it > be----???? > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web > at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html

Carolyn - you are just a wonder at finding new things. I can never get old Wm McCrobie out of Maryland - so I wonder... Thanks for the good idea. I will report on any progress I make! Bonnie -------Original Message------- From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 13:03:03 To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDGARRET] Kelly & Inloes in NC census Since John Kelley of Preston Co., WV, is said to descend from a family who came from Ireland to NC before the Rev. War, I found this census interesting; especially since another of the surnames listed is Inloes. Anyone have insight into this????????? =;o) Carolyn http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/craven/census/crav1790.txt This census is from Microcopy No. T-498 Roll 2 1790 census North Carolina Craven County Newbern District 1st # free white males 16 year upwards and head of families 2nd # free white males under 16 years 3rd # free white females and head of families 4th # all other free persons 5th # slaves Kelly, Joseph, 0,0,0,2,0 == Also, Hoover, King, Neale, Parsons, Stanton, Wade, Cummins, St. Leger, Connor, Rhodes----oh my, too many familiar names----could it be----???? ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html

Since John Kelley of Preston Co., WV, is said to descend from a family who came from Ireland to NC before the Rev. War, I found this census interesting; especially since another of the surnames listed is Inloes. Anyone have insight into this????????? =;o) Carolyn http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/craven/census/crav1790.txt This census is from Microcopy No. T-498 Roll 2 1790 census North Carolina Craven County Newbern District 1st # free white males 16 year upwards and head of families 2nd # free white males under 16 years 3rd # free white females and head of families 4th # all other free persons 5th # slaves Kelly, Joseph, 0,0,0,2,0 == Also, Hoover, King, Neale, Parsons, Stanton, Wade, Cummins, St. Leger, Connor, Rhodes----oh my, too many familiar names----could it be----????

Wait - wait --- How can Phillip be 60 in 1860 and 41 in 1870? Or Elizabeth 23 in 1850, 35 in 1860, 38 in 1870 and 52 in 1880 And abt the question of whether Elizabeth was born in MD or VA? Could there be TWO Elizabeths? In the 1880 Census below, Elizabeth Paugh, widow says she was born in MD, but Johnathan says his mother is born in VA? Maybe this was the Enumerator's mistake. Afterlooking at the original - it looks like he dipped his pen in the ink again between --- well, looks like he filled it right down the column... nawh, I'm not going to try and guess. You write: 1850 Federal census, Maryland, Allegany County, Glades District, page 45a or 89, SK Image 45a, taken Aug. 12, 1850- 608/ 611 Household of Nelson, age 33; and Sarah Baker age 32- "Elisabeth McRobie", WF age 23 (1827), born in MD. "Ellen" (McRobie), WF age 3 (1847), born in MD. They were living beside Joseph Dewitt, son of John Dewitt. .............. 1860 census, Maryland, Allegany County, page 325 or 681, SK Image 681. *MAY* be the Pleasant Valley area south of Oakland. All born in MD. None are shown to have attended school. 2362/2295 "Philip Pough", WM age 60 (1800), Laborer, No Real Estate, $75 Personal. "Elizabeth", WF age 35 (1825). "Ellen", WF age 12 (1848). "Isaiah", WM age 8 (1852). "Clarissa", WF age 4 (1856). "Jonathan H.", WM age 2 (1858). Neighbors- William and Druscilla (Harvey) Lower; Thompson, Henry, & Nathan Lower; Joseph, John G. & Isaac King; John Frey, Samuel McGiffin; PHILIP POUGH; Nelson Murphy; Mary Moore, Theophilus Wilt, Johnson White. ............... 1870 Federal census, Election District 10, Oakland Post Office, Page 5, SK Image 291A, taken Aug. 30, 1870, the area of Bethlehem Church. All born in MD. All family members are shown unable to read. 27/ 27 "Paugh, Phillip", WM age appears to be "41" (1829), Farmer, no Real Estate, $700 Personal Estate. "Elizabeth", WF age 38 (1832), Keeps House. "Isaiah", WM age 19 (1851), Farm Work. "Jane", WF age 15 (1855), Domestic Work, attended school. "Jonathan", WM age 12 (1858), Farm Work, attended school. "David", WM age 5 (1865). "Daniel W.", WM age 2 (1868). "Ellen" may have been married by 1870, since she doesn't appear. Enumerated just before Elisha Harvey, son of Nathaniel Harvey. This places them in the area of Bethlehem Church. ................. 1880 Federal census, Maryland, Garrett County, Ryan's Glade, District 100, page 8, SK Image 100-08, taken June 18, 1880. Dwelling 53, Family 69 "Paugh, Elizabeth H.", WF age 52 (1828), Widow, Keeping House, unable to write, born in MD, Father born in MD, Mother born in VA. "Jonathan", WM age 22 (1858), Son, Married, Farmer, born in MD, Father born in MD, Mother born in VA (NOTE: above, Elizabeth is shown to have been born in MD). "Rebecca", WF age 19 (1861), "Daughter Law", Married, At Home, born in MD, Father born in MD, Mother b. VA. For some reason a separate Family Visit "70" was entered on the next line, but the Dwelling number remained the same; 53. "David D." (Paugh), WM age 14 (1866), Son, Single, At Home, born in MD, Father born in MD, Mother born in VA. So from this census record it's not clear whether Elizabeth was born in MD or Virginia. The family was enumerated between Benjamin and Isaac Moon, placing them on Bethlehem Church Road just north of the intersection of Combination Road. -SJB Aug., 2003.

Sam! I was just looking for your addy to write you about this. Yes - I have been looking at Census reports now for a couple of days, and was going to ask you for a file if you have it. I am trying to figure this one out, and I have seen the Ron Hoffman file at Ancestry that shows 2 Isaac Allen Paughs ..etc, etc. As far as I know, Elizabeth - or according to Wilma Sanders, "Betsey" had a son named Isaac McRobie WITH Philip H Paugh. I have since seen suggestions that she might have had him before she was married, however, I have this in my file as her children: Ellen b 1848 Isiah 2 Aug 1851 Isaac Allen McCrobie Paugh 1856 Johnathan Paugh Clara Paugh David Paugh Daniel Paugh Of course, the first 2 at least were born BEFORE her marriage to Phillip - which are as you state Ellen and Isiah. I am thinking that Wilma has a mistake here. Her mistake is perpetuated on the Ancestry files. This is what it has: ID: I00962 Name: Elizabeth MCCROBIE Sex: F Birth: ABT. 1838 Birth: 1825 Death: Reference Number: 962 Note: They called her Betsey Father: Elisha Dewitt MCCROBIE , Sr. b: 1791 in Maryland Mother: Unknown FURLEY Marriage 1 Philip Henry PAUGH b: 1805 Married: 20 JAN 1855 Married: 20 JAN 1855 in Cumberland, Maryland 3 2 Children Isaac A. MCCROBIE b: 1856 Johnathan PAUGH b: 1857 Clara PAUGH b: 1858 Daniel PAUGH b: 1862 David PAUGH b: 1860 Ellen PAUGH b: 1848 Isiah PAUGH b: 2 AUG 1851 Johnathan PAUGH b: 1858 Daniel Webster PAUGH b: DEC 1862 in Medley, WV Sources: Title: McCrobie/McRobie/McCroby Family History Author: Wilma Nuzum Sanders Publication: Published in 1996 Note: Was researched very thourghly before being published Note: Primary Repository: Note: Waterloo Iowa Call Number: Media: Book Title: Paugh.FTW Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Text: Date of Import: Feb 28, 1999 Title: 1860 Census - Hampshire Co Repository: Call Number: Media: Book ================= SAM - NOTICE: There are 2 Daniels in the Family - with the same birth year? And 2 Johnathans, one b 1857, one b 1858. This is strange indeed. This needs some further examination. Here is what I was looking for you for - I have seen a Census, where there was a Paugh Family with Isaac listed as McCrobie (spelling?). I can't seem to locate it. At the time, I had him as an "unconnected" McCrobie, never putting him together with Elizabeth until I saw Wilma Sander's files, which I went to Waterloo and Xeroxed back in 1993. I have every sheet she used to compile her book, including some information that was not printed. She was amazed I had the Chutzpah (read "brazen boldness") to bring my own office-sized copier (and a very long extension cord) in the station wagon! What could she do except let me bring it into the dining room? So back to Isaac and the Census. Do you have this report with Isaac? For some reason, I can see it in my head as think about it. And maybe it was in Pennsylvania - does that make any sense?Because I didn't know where he belonged, I thought that maybe the Paugh's were going to be some relative - or step-parents. Can you help me on this? I think I am finally going nuts. Bon mccroby@hotmail.com