Hi! I never knew I was German, until I started doing Garrett/Allegany/Somerset PA genealogy, but yep! Hoover, Ruckle, Stark, Railey/Raley. Beverly

Sure! I was hoping we were related... Beverly

What is the surname you are looking for in Ireland? If it's German, check into the Irish Palatine information, especially in County Limerick. I can give you a hand, if it's German. Beverly

Are you German, Beverly? Maybe you are related to my husband!! HA!! Both sides of his family are German. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bez4@aol.com> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] book > Sure! I was hoping we were related... > > Beverly > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > >

The surnames are Riley and Garrahan. Both Irish. Thanks, Beverly. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bez4@aol.com> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] book > What is the surname you are looking for in Ireland? If it's German, check > into the Irish Palatine information, especially in County Limerick. I can give > you a hand, if it's German. > > Beverly > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > >

Thanks for the info on this book, Carol, guess I will go ahead and get it. It's real cheap anyway for a used one. Less than $5.00. Do you have any suggestions for finding family in Ireland? I will try this website that you passed on to me. We went there in June but with nothing besides my GGGrandparents names, it was hopeless finding records. All the records I have sent for just has that they were from Ireland. Thanks again, Helen Rehm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Hepburn" <chepburn@cox.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] book > Hi Helen, > > I used this book often (at my FHC) when I was first starting my research > overseas. It is a good reference book and will tell you how to get started, > where to write, etc. > > Another good place to go on the web is: > > http://www.irelandgenweb.org (WorldGenWeb for Ireland) > http://www.englandgenweb.org (same) > > and then http://www.genuki.co.uk (England based research project, notably > the best, covers the British Isles and Ireland) > -- > Best Wishes, > > Carol Hepburn > chepburn@cox.net > Phoenix, AZ USA > > "Warm and sunny, as usual!" > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > >

Hi Helen, I used this book often (at my FHC) when I was first starting my research overseas. It is a good reference book and will tell you how to get started, where to write, etc. Another good place to go on the web is: http://www.irelandgenweb.org (WorldGenWeb for Ireland) http://www.englandgenweb.org (same) and then http://www.genuki.co.uk (England based research project, notably the best, covers the British Isles and Ireland) -- Best Wishes, Carol Hepburn chepburn@cox.net Phoenix, AZ USA "Warm and sunny, as usual!"

Hi Connie, that's what I had heard. That's really a shame about the records. I do have a fair amount of information on Henry Ruckle's line in Ireland and before that Germany. Much of the Ruckle history is recorded due to his tie to Barbara Ruckle Heck, a founder of American Methodism. Beverly

One of his sons was the earliest > burial in the cemetery. I would love to see the records for this church My husband was one of the most recent burials in the Bittinger Cemetery. Now, the cemetery does not belong to the church. And your chances of ever seeing the records of the church I've been going to for the past 14 years, are slim to none. Connie

Hi everyone! What would be a good book to find ancestors from Ireland? Does anyone know if the book "In search of your British and Irish Roots", by Angus Baxter, is any good? Or does it just tell you how to go about searching? Thanks, Helen Rehm

Hi Connie, yes this is the Henry Ruckle m. Kitty Stark whose daughter, Mary Ann Ruckle married Simon "Sam" Raley. Mary Ann would be my gg grandmother. I have the Bittinger Book info, some deeds for her, and some anecdotes. Henry donated land for the Lutheran Church. One of his sons was the earliest burial in the cemetery. I would love to see the records for this church. Simon lived 1819-1860, but I am clueless as to his parents. Three of his kids have Germany as birthplace of father on their death certificates and the census shows him to have been German born. This makes sense, as the Ruckles were Irish Palatines. Beverly Railey Walter

I just found an email from August 1998 received from Tim Ruckle truckle@erols.com >From the IGI (International Genealogical Index - LDS FHC files George RUCKLE m Elizabeth Stark in Allegany County 1857. They were living in that part of the county which is now Garrett County. George Ruckle's mother was a Catherine Stark who married Henry Ruckle, Sr. on 23 Apr 1813. Catherine was born in 1794 and died before 1856. And then there's this from Hoyes "Pioneer Families of Garrett Couinty, MD," page 354 - Henry and Catherine Ruckle deeded to Peter Lohr military lots 2409-2410-2411-2412. These were granted by the state to General Wm. Smallwood of the Maryland Line for services as a soldier during the Revolutionary War. The heirs of Gen. Smallwood..names them...all of Greenup County KY had transferred the land to John B. Armstead and in 1832 he deeded it to Henry Ruckle who may have resided there before he sold out to Peter LOHR. Connie History is preserved through knowledge shared

I am the gt. grandson of Isaac T. Fitzwater and Amelia Garlitz. I am trying to find the parents of Amelia Garlitz. I have the marriage lic. of Isaac and Amelia from Alutuas County, Idaho, November 12,1885 and it said she was from Franklin County Ohio. I have her death certf ,born Feb. 14,1859 in Maryland, father Jacob Garlitz born in Pa., mother Liddie Griffith born Pa. Amelia died January 12,1916 in Mountain Home, Idaho I found her in the 1880 census,Mahoning County, Lowellville Polana Twp.(Youngtown area) she was enumarated twice, 3 days apart. one was scarched out. Amelia Garlitz, 23, housekeeper, born Md. parents born Md. Md,. She must have moved from house to house as a housekeeper. She also had a brother, Allen Garlitz that married Margaret Susan Fitzwater, sister to Isaac. Jacob of Henry and Magdelina was probably to old for a child born in 1859. Their son, Jacob Jr. is a good candidate, but he married Sarah Miller in 1855. Unless he remarried before Apr. 1854 he is out. As I see it, all other Jacob's of the Pa. and Md. area are to old or to young. Can you help,Thanks, Les

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/northampton/census/1800/partial.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/northampton/census/1800/pg029b.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/northampton/census/1800/pg035b.txt Many! family surnames-----are they those who remained in Pa. OR some of ours just before migration-------????? =;o) Carolyn

Does anyone have proof that Peter DELLENBACH actually went to Somerset Co., PA from Dauphin Co.,PA? An article in the Mennonite Family History, dated January 1990 written by John B. BLYER, I quote. Resurveyed (on the 5th day of October 1796) for Jacob Graybill Administrator to the estate of Peter DELLENBAUGH decd. of the above described of 372 acres one quarter & Allowce of 6 P Ct. Situate in Londonderry Township, Dauphin County (late Lancaster & Returned By Virtue of a Special order the Board of Property Bearing date the 16th December 1796* *directing a resurvey to be made and returned in pursuance of a warrant granted to Valentine DELLENBAUGH dated 30th Jan. 1752. This article also states: Peter likely died in 1795, the year his will was probated in Londonderry Township(but is unavailable). In 1796 the widow (name unknown) appears on the tax lists. On April 5, 1797, his administrator and son-in-law Jacob Krebill settled Peter's estate. Footnote states: Dauphin Co., PA, Courthouse Mortgage Book E-1, pp. 155-156, Peter DELABACH. Unquote. I know I have read in some genealogies that he went to Somerset County, PA but I have never found any proof of that. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <TRPLUS@aol.com> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: [MDGARRET] Jonas or Joseph (?) MUSSER & DELLENBACHs > Sam and Pat . . . > > Thanks so much for putting this information up. I also noted the > "DELLENBACH" > surname again. Barbara DELLENBACH, sister to John Hershburger's wife > Veronica > "Franey" DELLENBACH, my 4th g-grandparents--Their son Peter HERSHBERGER > and > wife Anna BEACHY are my 3rd g-grandparents. > > Barbara DELLENBACH m. John Fike (Carolyn SHUPE's 6th g-grandparents). > Carolyn > also furnised the information on Elk Lick at that time that talked about > John > Fike having built the first gristmill in the township on the Casselman > River, > a mile northeast of Salisbury, PA (Elk Lick) . . . and Joseph Markley > operated the first distillery, abt 1790. > > We also have Nicholas Mosser m. to Magdalena DELLENBACH (dau of Peter > DELLENBACH). Per Carolyn SHUPE, she read that Peter DELLENBACH came to > Somerset Co., > PA from Dauphin Co., PA. Carolyn also suspects that Barbara's birth was > abt > 1750 as her first child was born Jan 1774. > > I've noticed many child brides in our history. That being the case, > Barbara > could have been as young as 14 when she had her first child (birth year > would > have been 1760 in that case). > > Lois > > > In a message dated 9/1/2003 8:33:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > pahook@hereintown.net writes: > > > Sam, > > I believe Jonas Musser/Mosser is correct. Jonas was son of John > > Musser/Mosser &Elizabeth Maust Mosser. They also had a daughter > > Catherine who married Samuel Faulk. John Mosser was son of Nicholas > > Mosser d. abt 1829 m; Magdalena Dellenbach Mosser. They resided at > > Selbeysport, MD. > > > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list > administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > >

Sam and Pat . . . Thanks so much for putting this information up. I also noted the "DELLENBACH" surname again. Barbara DELLENBACH, sister to John Hershburger's wife Veronica "Franey" DELLENBACH, my 4th g-grandparents--Their son Peter HERSHBERGER and wife Anna BEACHY are my 3rd g-grandparents. Barbara DELLENBACH m. John Fike (Carolyn SHUPE's 6th g-grandparents). Carolyn also furnised the information on Elk Lick at that time that talked about John Fike having built the first gristmill in the township on the Casselman River, a mile northeast of Salisbury, PA (Elk Lick) . . . and Joseph Markley operated the first distillery, abt 1790. We also have Nicholas Mosser m. to Magdalena DELLENBACH (dau of Peter DELLENBACH). Per Carolyn SHUPE, she read that Peter DELLENBACH came to Somerset Co., PA from Dauphin Co., PA. Carolyn also suspects that Barbara's birth was abt 1750 as her first child was born Jan 1774. I've noticed many child brides in our history. That being the case, Barbara could have been as young as 14 when she had her first child (birth year would have been 1760 in that case). Lois In a message dated 9/1/2003 8:33:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pahook@hereintown.net writes: > Sam, > I believe Jonas Musser/Mosser is correct. Jonas was son of John > Musser/Mosser &Elizabeth Maust Mosser. They also had a daughter > Catherine who married Samuel Faulk. John Mosser was son of Nicholas > Mosser d. abt 1829 m; Magdalena Dellenbach Mosser. They resided at > Selbeysport, MD. >

Mark Friend has started a new web site for FRIEND families (and other related families). Should you care to join, send me an email requesting an invitation. Mark will send you the invitation shortly. Pat (Friend) Thompson Pat125@erols.com

Hi, I would like to join the Friend site if you know if the O'briens, Fitzwater Nolte Mellinger might be related in some way thanks, Mary Jane mjedugan@yahoo.com MARY JANE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Sam, I believe Jonas Musser/Mosser is correct. Jonas was son of John Musser/Mosser & Elizabeth Maust Mosser. They also had a daughter Catherine who married Samuel Faulk. John Mosser was son of Nicholas Mosser d. abt 1829 m; Magdalena Dellenbach Mosser. They resided at Selbeysport, MD. Elizabeth Maust Mosser d. ca 1812. John Mosser then married Susannah Frankhouser (my gg-grandparents). Around 1833 they relocated to Brandonville area of Preston Co. WV. There Susanna & John Musser/Mosser had 12 children, Rebecca, Annie, Sarah, Henry, Joseph, Susannah, Mary, John, Jacob, Elizabeth, **Daniel, Samuel. Daniel is my line who m; Elizabeth Frances Frederick. Guess that is more info than you wanted. But perhaps you or someone may have additional information of any of the above. Be happy to hear from anyone interested. Take Care Pat Hook ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel J. Bowser" <bowsersa@pa.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: [MDGARRET] Jonas or Joseph (?) Musser > These appear to be the same family- Joseph or Jonas married to > Sarah Beachy, daughter of Peter Beachy III. They were counted > immediately before Sarah's brother, Elias Beachy in 1850. >

Wondering if someone could confirm that Henry Brown, (below) was a son of Samuel Brown. Also whether the Mary (or Margaret) Sheets in the household may have been his mother-in-law? -Thanks, Sam 1850 Federal census, MD, Allegany County, Election District 3 (Grantsville, Accident area), Page 8B or 16, SK Image 8B, taken July 10, 1850. 108/ 110 "Henry Brown", WM age 40 (1810), born in PA. "Harriett", WF age 40 (1810), born in MD. "Mary (or Marg.) Sheets", WF age 82 (1768), born in MD. "Hannah Knoyer(?)", WF age 17 (1833), born in PA. "Joseph S. Brown", WM age 12 (1838), born in MD. "Ann" (Brown), WF age 9 (1841), born in MD. "George", WM age 7 (1843), born in MD. "Margaret", WF age 6 (1844), born in MD. "Charles", WM age 4 (1846), born in MD. Counted just before Jonas (or Joseph) and Sarah (Beachy) MUSSER, and Sarah Beachy's brother; Elias Beachy. ...............