Hi Carolyn, Yes, this is the Census page I have, showing several of our intermarried names with the Dellenbachs. According to this census they sure did live nearby each other. Branstetter, Loiter, Krebill, Eiler/Eier married the other 4 daughters of Peter Dellenbach. Also, according to Mr. Bylers data, several of these came to U.S. on the same ship, with other Mennonites. We'll track down these folks yet!!!! Thanks for posting. Take Care Pat H. ~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHUPE@citcom.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: [MDGARRET] Dellenbach / Tallowback / Tollabaugh census

If you can figure out how the numbers in the household fit the heading columns----please let us know <g>. I included the households, before and after our surname, because some are quite familiar!! I assume they are nearby neighbors of our Dellenbach family =;o) Carolyn http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/dauphin/census/1790/pg0023.txt CENSUS YEAR: 1790 STATE: PA COUNTY: Dauphin REEL#: M637-8 ENUMERATOR: Charles Brown Assistant to the Marshal of Pennsylvania ================================================================================================================ |FREE WHITE | |ALL | | |MALES | |OTHER | | HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD |16 to | |FREE | | PG# LN# LAST NAME FIRST NAME |up 16 |FEMALES|Persons|SLAVES|REMARKS 34 1 BOYD Benjamin 2 2 6 . . Volumn 2 Page No. 194, Indexed as Place Not Given 34 2 WOLFSERBARGER Philip 3 3 3 . . 34 3 COUCH Henry 1 1 3 . . 34 4 OVER John 2 . 4 . . 34 5 BOLE John 3 . 2 . . 34 6 McELWREATH Thomas 3 1 2 . . 34 7 TALLOWBACK Peter 1 2 3 . .(************prob. Dellenbach?cs) 34 8 MUSSER Nicholas 1 1 3 . . 34 9 BRANSTATER Andrew 1 1 2 . . 34 10 ARMSTRONG Susana 1 . 6 . . 34 11 LONGNECKER Jacob 2 . 4 . . 34 12 GREATENHOAR John 1 . 2 . . 34 13 GATES Casper 2 3 3 . . 34 14 KEELINGER George 1 2 3 . . 34 15 LANDICE John 1 1 3 . . 34 16 CLARK Robert, Col. 2 2 6 . . 34 17 FISHBURN Ludwic 1 1 2 . . 34 18 STONER Christopher 1 1 4 . . 34 19 WALLACE Thomas 2 . 7 . . 34 20 HAYS Patric 2 2 5 . 4 34 21 HAYS Robert 2 5 2 . 2 ------- 35 1 LOITER Joseph 2 1 1 . . Volumn 2 Page No. 195, Indexed as Place Not Given 35 2 MURPHEY Daniel . . . 1 . 35 3 CLOYD Thomas . . . 1 . 35 4 NULL Christian 1 2 2 . . 35 5 SHALLOR Adam 2 2 5 . . 35 6 McLIRY * Widow 2 2 1 . . * First name not given 35 7 TOLLABAUGH Christian 2 2 6 . .(*******************************prob. Dellenbach?cs) 35 8 WALKER Archibald 1 . 5 . . 35 9 ELIOT William 1 . 1 . . 35 10 MOYERS George 1 2 3 . . 35 11 HAYS William 2 3 6 . . 35 12 LYNCH John 1 3 4 . . 35 13 STOVER Henry 1 2 7 . 2 ==

Just for the chance that this early info will help someone. Hoover bible: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/cumberland/bibles/hoover-j.txt The surname of Whitecar intrigues me because I have Weishaar/Whitehair many-gr-grandparents. If anyone finds a suspicious connection to Frederick or w. Md. counties, or WV, please let me know!! =;o) Carolyn

Hi everyone. Can someone tell me where to look for a Directory of people that lived near Selbysport approx. 1830-1866? Or even if there was such a thing. Thanks, Helen Rehm

The Finzel Cemetery is very easy to find. Get off 68 at the Finzel exit and go toward Finzel. You just stay on the main road going thru Finzel and you will eventually come to it on the right hand of the road. It's close to the PA state line. -----Original Message----- From: BRichBoyer@aol.com [mailto:BRichBoyer@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:35 PM To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDGARRET] Cemetery Directions Wondered if anyone could give me driving directions to the Finzel Cemetery, I have relatives buried there and would like to visit. Rich Boyer ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

"Garrett County Graves" only list it as Route 546, Finzel, MD. Mary BRichBoyer@aol.com wrote: >Wondered if anyone could give me driving directions to the Finzel Cemetery, I >have relatives buried there and would like to visit. > >Rich Boyer > > >==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== >If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > > > >

Wondered if anyone could give me driving directions to the Finzel Cemetery, I have relatives buried there and would like to visit. Rich Boyer

Anyone that is relted to William Liston, please email me at JJCMOtey@aol.com. Thanks, Christina LISTON, WILLIAM F. 94, of 1830 Elm St. Youngstown, formerly of Brownsville died Nov. 23, 1968 at his home. He was born in Friendsville MD, April 4, 1874 the son of CHARLES and LUCRETIA LOUDERMILK LISTON. He leaves three daughters, MRS. WALTER FAULL, MRS. CLAYTON MARSHALL and MRS. MARJORIE MILLWARD; a son, THOMAS M. LISTON; three sisters, MRS. BLANCH POLLETT, MRS. LILY BANE, and MRS. NAN CARNEY; and a brother, RICHARD LISTON. He was predeceased by his wife, MRS. LOUISA JANE MOFFITT LISTON in 1948 and a son, WILLIAM T. LISTON, in 1957. Burial in Bridgeport Cemetery under the direction of the Homer L. Crawford (successor to Ross) Funeral Home.

http://home.att.net/~lawexbabe/limerick_civil_parishes.htm =;o) Carolyn

Me too?! Lois

> I wrote John Byler in 1998. I have a copy of his article on Dellenbach, Hershberger and some other intermarried > families. His article was in a copy of January 1990 Mennonite Family History titled " The Dellenbach/ Hershberger > Connection". I think this is a Mennonite newsletter. > Ohhhhhhh Pat!! Can you scan that article to me?????? =;o) Carolyn

Lois, I haven't come across any Savilles----yet. But some of my intermarried families with the Mosser family must have traveled from eastern PA. south to now WV---Shenandoah & Hardy Counties. I found some Mosser--Frederick family data in Stockton, Shenandoah Co. library. Must have been a major wagon trail down that way. They seemed to have traveled south from Lancaster Co. PA. area then turned north again at Oldtown, MD. or some Allegany Co. MD. area. I think Ann Lock found the Nicholas Mosser family at Oldtown/Skipton in abt. 1800 census. Let you know if I find Saville's. Take Care Pat H.~~~

Pat, My husband has Graybils/Greybills in his family . . . What do you want to bet "Krebills" is a similar situation. Have any Savilles in your line? Mary Graybil m. Harvey Saville. ;o) I believe they were from WV (Levels or Points area). Lois

Ann, Carolyn, Lois and other Dellenbach researchers, We also have to consider the spelling TOLOBACH/TOLOBAUGH/TALLOWBACH. I know that in the German language that the "D" & "T" are interchangable. I have had a time with Teets vs Deets, then there is Teats & Deats/Deetz. I find Dellenbach spelled with a "T" in I think it was 1790 Census of Dauphin Co. The Tolobachs were just a few names, so perhaps neighbors, of Mosser, Eyler/Eyer/Eler, Branstetter, Loiter, Krebills. The other 4 Dellenbach sisters married into those families. I will have to dig out my folders of Dellenbach notes. I recently ask my cousin to check with Dauphin Co. courthouse for that Mortgage Record for Magdalena Dellenbach wife of Niclous Moser dated 1797. I believe it was concerning Peter Dellenbachs estate. I wrote John Byler in 1998. I have a copy of his article on Dellenbach, Hershberger and some other intermarried families. His article was in a copy of January 1990 Mennonite Family History titled " The Dellenbach/ Hershberger Connection". I think this is a Mennonite newsletter. If you find anything let me know. I will do likewise. I hope to hear from my cousin concerning that Mortgage record soon. I sent for it by mail months ago. But they returned my money and request stating they can no longer mail Records. I had File number and all, shouldn't have been too much trouble to get it from files. Take Care---Keep in touch Pat Hook

Lois, That's what I thought. De looked like Bo to transcriber, maybe. The girls names are almost the same as what I have for the 7 sisters who are known to us. Barbara's age would likely fit this record----I have b. "abt. 1750" and this record would put this Barbara b. 1756 and that date would make my Barbara 18 yrs. old at birth of first child in 1774 . This court record names "Abraham" Dellenbach?/Bollenbach as the father, however--? My source for "Peter Dellenbach" as Barbara's father was sent to me by another researcher and it is "Mennonite Family History" by John M. Byler. Wonder if anyone on List has this book-----?? Other "if" questions would be: He could have been Peter Abraham or vs/vs? This Abraham could have just coincidentally named his daughters the same names---or could be a brother who did the same? The only census I have found is: Berks Co, PA 1790 U.S. Census A-F (INDEX - File 1 of 3) PG# LN# LAST NAME FIRST NAME FILE NAME 159 14 Diefenbach Jacob pg0154.txt 130 8 Diefenbach Peter pg0125.txt I need to re-check the Christian Fike book to see what they said about Barbara's parents. Also, need to find where I can buy: DELLENBACH. The Dallenback family in America, 1710-1935, by A.L Dillenbeck & K.M. Dallenbach. 439p. 1935. $67.50----ouch!! Guess I can't hope for someone who reads this letter to HAVE the book and willing to send the information. I am not even sure it will have our Dellenbach's in it. <sigh> =;o) Carolyn TRPLUS@aol.com wrote: > Carolyn, > > Sometimes the B and D are indiscernible from handwriting--Seems awful close > to me. I've seen a lot worse spelling and pronunciation of the same surnames. > > The individual names within the family also lead me to believe it must be the > same surname. The only thing left is the dates -- do they match up? Probably > no census to verify or match to see if the neighbors are the same but the > surname written differently. So many puzzles. > > Lois > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

Carolyn, Sometimes the B and D are indiscernible from handwriting--Seems awful close to me. I've seen a lot worse spelling and pronunciation of the same surnames. The individual names within the family also lead me to believe it must be the same surname. The only thing left is the dates -- do they match up? Probably no census to verify or match to see if the neighbors are the same but the surname written differently. So many puzzles. Lois

I think this info deserves to be tucked in a notes/clues file for the Dellenbach family. ; ) The children (females) names are strikingly familiar; tho generic <sigh>. The spelling of the name may! be a transcriber error or typo---or "scribe of the day" problem? Any opinions out there? =;o) Carolyn http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/berks/xmisc/misc0001.txt Other Court: Extracts of Selected Wills, Estates, Realty, and Orphan's Court Actions: Berks (Now Schuylkill) Co, PA [Mostly Brunswick, Manheim and Pine Grove] >From Pioneers and Patriots "Over the Blue Mountain" Vol 1 - revised copyright 1994 F. Richard Turnbach Extracts of Selected Wills, Estates, Realty, and Orphan's Court Actions of potential interest to Schuylkill researchers BOLLENBACH, Abraham Berks Windsor 2 Jan 1768 A Berks Orphan's Court 12 Fe b1768 Petition of John MECKELIN and Margaret h/w formerly Margaret BOLLEBACH wid/o Abraham of Windsor etc Children: Nicholas age 23; Abraham 21; Martin 18; Mathias 15; Henry 8; Catherine 24; Margaret 22; Anna Maria 19; Maria Catherine 17; Maria Barbara 12. 100 Acres of Warrant Land in "the New Purchase over the Blue Mountains" Berks Orphan's Ct 29 Feb 1768 Administrators of Abr BOLENBACHER, decd report sale of 100 acres over the Blue Mountains to Nicholas BOLLENBACHER cordwainer of Ruscombmanor for £ 80 ==

In a message dated 9/6/2003 9:28:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, SHUPE@citcom.net writes: > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/berks/ Thanks Carolyn, Neat stuff to read about Daniel Boone and all. Will keep and revisit it later when I have time. Lois

Alice, (not my Alice who helped me with the Kelley's ; ) Do you know of this Reitmeyer marriage in Bucks Co., Pa.? http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/berks/vitals/marrberk.txt McCOY, William, to Catharine REITMEYER, last Sun., 23 Apr 1805ed. Carolyn

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