I agree with Mary here. CD's should be around for a long time. I work in a photo lab. Just in the last week we have gotten new software on a couple of our machines. We can now burn CDs from digital media. According to the Kodak Co. and Pixel Magic (Which is a company that deals with making software for machinery to copy pictures from multi-media), the picture CDs are designed to last between fifty and one hundred years. So, I would think the technology would be around to read them for a long time. Plus, the new DVD players are coming with being able to read picture CDs made with the Kodak software. Lois Melinat >From: Mary Teets <mteets@erols.com> >Reply-To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com >To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] CD STORAGE >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:19:14 -0500 > >CD's will be around for a long time; just make sure you have more than one >copy of your photos because of scratches. > >Mary > _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)

Name of the book is Emmanuel Bittinger Family History Connie > THANKS FOR ANSWERING , WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BITTINGER BOOK ?, > >

Just got a coupon book from Office Depot today -- For the first time saw a gadget for $49.87 "Motorized Skip Doctor" . . . • Repairs scratched CDs and DVDs without batteries • Includes polishing cloth and solution. How about that for timing. Lois

CONNIE, WHERE CAN I BUY ONE OF THHESE BOOKS. I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THEM AT THE ALPS RESTERANT IN GRANTSVILLE MD. BUT I DON'T GET IN THERE TOO OFTEN, WHERE DO YOU LIVE?. I LIVE AROUND CAMBRIDGE OHIO. AND AGAIN ,THANKS, I CAN'T FIND THE PAPER I HAD ON THE THE SO CALLED BRENNEMAN BOOK, MY DAUGHTER ALSO SAID THAT SHE HAD ONE MAYBE SHE MISUNDERSTOOD HER, ON THE PHONE WHEN SHE TALKED TO HER A FEW YEARS AGO. OH WELL! MJD MARY JANE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

Great advice Mary. I purchased a digital camera in April of this year. I managed to take about 200 photos. It broke two days before the end of our vacation in September. Thank goodness it lasted until we could download the photos into our computer. We purchased the Kodak 4.0 mega pixel camera w/zoom etc. online through Cosco. Came with paper, docking station, a memory stick, and carrying case. We returned all to Cosco and got all of our money back. They erased the photos off of the memory that we weren't able to do. Gave us all of our money back. We turned right around and purchased a similar Kodak camera (5 mega pixal, zoom, etc.) for $50 or more less!!! So we are off and running again! The camera takes great photos . . . the ones taken outside are beautiful. I'm not too happy about the pictures taken inside however. Lots of red in them. I haven't had time to experiment with the tools with the photos yet . . . also have to see if I can now salvage them into TIF format and save them to a CD before something else goes kaput. Lois Hetrick Stewart

On those indoor shots, are you using the flash? Sometimes there is plenty of light anyway, and while it will take the picture, remember it is incandescent and not a true light, like outdoors. You might look into a filter, too. These attachments are not expensive and a filter that screws on can protect your lens when the cap or cover is not on. Try going to a regular photo shop and talking to them about accessories. If the picture was good to start with, there is little need for photo editing other than cropping. -------Original Message------- From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, November 14, 2003 15:45:01 To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] CD STORAGE Great advice Mary. I purchased a digital camera in April of this year. I managed to take about 200 photos. It broke two days before the end of our vacation in September. Thank goodness it lasted until we could download the photos into our computer. We purchased the Kodak 4.0 mega pixel camera w/zoom etc. online through Cosco. Came with paper, docking station, a memory stick, and carrying case. We returned all to Cosco and got all of our money back. They erased the photos off of the memory that we weren't able to do. Gave us all of our money back. We turned right around and purchased a similar Kodak camera (5 mega pixal, zoom, etc.) for $50 or more less!!! So we are off and running again! The camera takes great photos . . . the ones taken outside are beautiful. I m not too happy about the pictures taken inside however. Lots of red in them. I haven't had time to experiment with the tools with the photos yet . . . also have to see if I can now salvage them into TIF format and save them to a CD before something else goes kaput. Lois Hetrick Stewart ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html

--WebTV-Mail-23058-355 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I don't think so, as Rlaph was so much older than Bobby, Theresa (Mary) and Esther. Certainly I grew up under the impression Ralph and Quincy were siblings. I will check with someone up there in Garrett Co. Perhaps I will call Esther when I next go up. Delores --WebTV-Mail-23058-355 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-3210.bay.webtv.net (209.240.204.235) by storefull-2354.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by smtpin-3210.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 5D83B11DFF; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id hADFSPeo021553; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:28:25 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:28:25 -0700 X-Original-Sender: friendfamilyassoc@iceweb.net Thu Nov 13 08:28:25 2003 Message-ID: <007401c3a9fb$9f007a80$870561cc@computer> From: "friendfamilyassociation" <friendfamilyassoc@iceweb.net> Old-To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> References: <3FAEB0E7.000007.02164@S0028482859> Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Wm A. and Henrietta Crow MURPHY Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:34:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Resent-Message-ID: <aXvE2B.A.cQF.ZM6s_@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/7427 X-Loop: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: MDGARRET-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Delores I may be out of line but wasn't Ralph a son of Quincy, b/o Robert, Esther and Mary? Shirley ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. --WebTV-Mail-23058-355--

In a message dated 11/13/2003 6:19:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, DanlHarris@cox.net writes: > What I am concerned about is printing photos with ink jet. I don't expect > these photos to be of very good quality in 10yr. True, the fade rate is very fast. Negatives last for years. At least with the CDs I think we can rest assured that they will last a long time so you can at least reprint photos. I've had some color (copy) prints made from photos hanging on my wall for several years. They still look real nice, but they have faded somewhat. The copies were made on a commercial color copier. I believe the machine used color toner (not ink) and was fused to the paper. My black and white laser printers cost $1400 new. Most of the equipment is made cheap so most people can afford it these days. They're called "throw aways." It doesn't pay to try to fix it. My inkjets have come down in price from $1,000 to under $400 now. . . but the commercial inkjet/toner printers are still $2,500 and up. It's hard to justify those kinds of costs for personal use. If you have your photos saved to a CD, you can get prints made at the photo developing place fairly inexpensively. You can do your own reprints at Cosco. Since I'm retiring my business, I haven't really kept up with the industry pricing on the high end equipment. Food for thought though. Lois Hetrick Stewart

I would think that CDs will probably be around for a long time--VHS is still around and we still have a reel to reel tape player, but the media is slowly being replaced with the DVDs. I started using magnetic tape word processors in 1972 and magnetic card selectric typewriters in 1973. Then the WANG wordprocessors took the place of typewriters. Then came the IBM Displaywriter and Electronic Typewriters with memories, soon followed by Personal Computers. The floppies will probably go away in the not too distant future. I also have had zip disks for about 10 years. Many publishers still use these zip disk drives to run their presses and color copiers. However, the small 100 zip drives are being replaced by the bigger ones. I did a family calendar with 100 photos in it in 1997. Everything was processed using Word Perfect software and graphics and scanned photos in Tif format. It took two zip disks to save the final calendar. One zip disk holds approx 100 HD floppy disks worth of data. One CD can be used to save everything on a hard drive. You can virtually put a whole library in a desk drawer. Now we have email and the JPEG format which takes considerably less bytes than the .tif format. Also with CDs, as opposed to zip disks, the retrieval is much faster. A zip disk costs about $10 each. If you have a CD read/write you can buy CDs by the gross for little of nothing. So, I believe CDs at least will still be around. Lois Hetrick Stewart In a message dated 11/13/2003 5:14:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, cbeachy@gcnetmail.net writes: > > I keep wondering if CD's and floppies will still be around 10 years from > now. > > Connie > > > >

I have the Bittinger book done by Betty K. Beachy, my late sister in law, but I'm not aware of any Brenneman books that she did. Her maiden name was Brenneman though. Connie > DOES ANYONE HAVE THE BRENNEMAN BOOK WRITTEN BY BEACHY. I WAS WONDER IF THERE ARE ANY NOLTEs MENTIONED IN IT, . I WAS GOING TO BUY A BOOK FROM HER ,BUT I WAS TOO LATE, LEARNED THAT SHE PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO. OR IS THERE ANY AVAILABLE TO BUY? MJ > > > > MARY JANE > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > >

CDs should be around another 10yr....floppy drives are still in pcs ... but my floppy drive never gets used. You can always copy CDs to DVDs in future years. Many DVD drives read CDs. What I am concerned about is printing photos with ink jet. I don't expect these photos to be of very good quality in 10yr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Betty Jo Friend [mailto:lennyjo@access995.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:59 PM To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] CD STORAGE I too wonder how long CD's will be around. Remember when we had the 5 1/4 inch floppies? Now they are obsolete. I have put a lot of pictures on CD's, but also have the originals. Am also printing out others from the ones I have saved on my computer. I like the convenience of the CDs but am not sure of the permanence. Jo in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "connie beachy" <cbeachy@gcnetmail.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:09 PM Subject: [MDGARRET] CD STORAGE > I keep wondering if CD's and floppies will still be around 10 years from > now. > > Connie > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

I too wonder how long CD's will be around. Remember when we had the 5 1/4 inch floppies? Now they are obsolete. I have put a lot of pictures on CD's, but also have the originals. Am also printing out others from the ones I have saved on my computer. I like the convenience of the CDs but am not sure of the permanence. Jo in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "connie beachy" <cbeachy@gcnetmail.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:09 PM Subject: [MDGARRET] CD STORAGE > I keep wondering if CD's and floppies will still be around 10 years from > now. > > Connie > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > >

I keep wondering if CD's and floppies will still be around 10 years from now. Connie

THANKS FOR ANSWERING , WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BITTINGER BOOK ?, JONATHAN "JONAS: BITTINGER I AD ELIZABETH WAS MY GG GRAND PARENTS I HAVE THE BITTINGER , BITTNER BIDDINGER AND THERE FAMILIES..... KIN, I'LL LOOK IN MY FILES FOR THE INFORMATION SHE SENT ME ON HER BOOKS AND GET BACK WITH YOU THANKS AGAIN MJ MARY JANE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

DOES ANYONE HAVE THE BRENNEMAN BOOK WRITTEN BY BEACHY. I WAS WONDER IF THERE ARE ANY NOLTEs MENTIONED IN IT, . I WAS GOING TO BUY A BOOK FROM HER ,BUT I WAS TOO LATE, LEARNED THAT SHE PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO. OR IS THERE ANY AVAILABLE TO BUY? MJ MARY JANE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

CD's will be around for a long time; just make sure you have more than one copy of your photos because of scratches. Mary Betty Jo Friend wrote: >I too wonder how long CD's will be around. Remember when we had the 5 1/4 >inch floppies? Now they are obsolete. I have put a lot of pictures on >CD's, but also have the originals. Am also printing out others from the >ones I have saved on my computer. I like the convenience of the CDs but am >not sure of the permanence. Jo in PA >----- Original Message ----- >From: "connie beachy" <cbeachy@gcnetmail.net> >To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:09 PM >Subject: [MDGARRET] CD STORAGE > > > > >>I keep wondering if CD's and floppies will still be around 10 years from >>now. >> >>Connie >> >> >> >>==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== >>Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the >> >> >web at: > > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >> >> >> >> > > > >==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== >If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > > > >

I would like to pass along something I read in Digital Photo mag. regarding JPEG versus TIF format. Although TIF format is larger, you should always save a copy of your graphic files in that format because it is a lot better as far as the colors, sharpness, etc. You get a lot of "noise" with JPEG files. So if it's a particular photo that near and dear always work from a TIF file. Mary Teets TRPLUS@aol.com wrote: >I would think that CDs will probably be around for a long time--VHS is still >around and we still have a reel to reel tape player, but the media is slowly >being replaced with the DVDs. > >I started using magnetic tape word processors in 1972 and magnetic card >selectric typewriters in 1973. Then the WANG wordprocessors took the place of >typewriters. Then came the IBM Displaywriter and Electronic Typewriters with >memories, soon followed by Personal Computers. > >The floppies will probably go away in the not too distant future. I also have >had zip disks for about 10 years. Many publishers still use these zip disk >drives to run their presses and color copiers. However, the small 100 zip drives >are being replaced by the bigger ones. I did a family calendar with 100 >photos in it in 1997. Everything was processed using Word Perfect software and >graphics and scanned photos in Tif format. It took two zip disks to save the final >calendar. One zip disk holds approx 100 HD floppy disks worth of data. One CD >can be used to save everything on a hard drive. You can virtually put a whole >library in a desk drawer. > >Now we have email and the JPEG format which takes considerably less bytes >than the .tif format. > >Also with CDs, as opposed to zip disks, the retrieval is much faster. A zip >disk costs about $10 each. If you have a CD read/write you can buy CDs by the >gross for little of nothing. So, I believe CDs at least will still be around. > >Lois Hetrick Stewart > >In a message dated 11/13/2003 5:14:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, >cbeachy@gcnetmail.net writes: > > > >>I keep wondering if CD's and floppies will still be around 10 years from >>now. >> >>Connie >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== >If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > > > >

Delores I may be out of line but wasn't Ralph a son of Quincy, b/o Robert, Esther and Mary? Shirley

Harriet or Hattie E Smith (15 Apr 1868-8 Jan 1943), who is the wife of John W McRobie (10 Dec 1862-22 Sep 1895), married 3 Nov 1997 in Oakland. In my notes, I have a little note from 1993 (no source) that she had been previously married to a Calvin Cuppett. Does anyone have a clue about this?

In a message dated 11/12/2003 8:24:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, Pat125@erols.com writes: > I just can't resist jumping in here. One thing, after visiting the Friend > s Library in Friendsville, I know you need to organize your work (or > donation) because no one there will recognize the pictures of your ancestors > that are donated without names, nor will there be a volunteer on hand to > sort through your paperwork and put together all the loose ends that you > could not fit together. I agree. That's why I think it would be best to combine my floppies and hard copy information to CDs in alpha order by surname. Then it would be easy to read and search using the CD. Maybe even one CD per alpha. Then they could be easily accessed, searched and/or copied . . . they hold a gazillion files and 26 CD's would take up no significant room at all. Space is a premium everywhere you go. Now all I have to do is find the time to file manage all of this. Lois > > Direct line genealogy papers are usually accepted IF they are in a > (suitable) stand up notebook. As for the "misfit" pieces, they too should > be organized into some sort of "file-able" format. I have purchased > research material from Garrett County which is already on file in the > Historical Society and the local library, (they don't need a second copy) > but I think it might be of interest to other libraries in Maryland. Why not > donate your copies to them? I file all of my miscellaneous data in plastic > sleeves (archival), a 'school book type' notebook and they are ready to go > on a shelf in a library that doesn't already have this information. I must > admit, someone else may have to do an index. > >