In a message dated 11/19/2003 5:33:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, bowsersa@pa.net writes: > I'm sure a modern digital camera would give the best results for still > pictures. > Trying to get a picture of my grandparent's old barn is turning into a real challenge. We got a shot of the old barn with our new digital camera out of the family album on our visit to the farmhouse but it wasn't a very good one . . . the one captured on camcorder out of the album in 1992 was much better, but we couldn't find that particular one again during our visit unfortunately. Then the digital camera broke while we were on vacation. We had purchased it online through Cosco in April, so we were able to take it back and get all our money back. We also had to return the memory card that came with it but they had to erase the pictures off of it. Then we turned around and bought the upgrade (5 mega pixal) with a lens protector and a clip on looped rope handle to carry it with rather than the case to slip it in. So we'll see how this one lasts. We used the other one extensively -- about 200 photos from April to October. Used the viewer and magnification a lot too. Since my cataract surgery in June, I can't make out the photos on the viewer without the magnification. All of that worked great . . . and the battery held up real well (we carried the docking station with us though to keep it charged). I will be undergoing the second cataract procedure in Dec/Jan. Then maybe in another month, I can get reading glasses that work! I've been using my computer glasses and a magnifying glass to read small print. I had the PRK (laser correction of my nearsightedness) done about 6 years ago so that I could see without contacts. They undercorrected my right eye so that I wouldn't need reading glasses right away. Six months later the inner lens started going and I had to get reading glasses . . . then night driving glasses . . . then computer glasses with anti glare and after that, a pair of transitionals so I would have all the corrections plus sunglasses. You can imagine how frustrating it was to find out that after all that investment that I was starting to develop cataracts. This too shall pass. I consider myself very fortunate and that I can see very well for the most part. I'm the eye surgeon's first PRK patient that had the PRK procedure . . . I guess I'm a trendsetter ;o) They said I'm on the young side of having cataracts (it's in our genes), and because I'm still very active, the insurance will cover the removal in the earlier stages. Lucky me. Lois Hetrick Stewart

Lois: If I remember correctly (and maybe I don't) it went something like this- Video capture devices allow you to capture both the video and the sound. Both generate very large files; video consuming much more of your resources than sound, however. The video and sound are recorded on different tracks. Still image capture is possible with the "Dazzle" device, as well. With the old computer I was using, the still picture (if there was any movement at all), was not good at all in a still picture. The picture was blurry and had static lines through it. Again, today's computers should make a huge difference in performance. I think a camcorder captures 30 frames (still pictures) per second. Say the resolution is 350 dots horizontal by 280 dots vertical. (I'm guessing at the numbers just for an example.) When the computer reads one of these frames, it has to read each individual dot across each horizontal line to the bottom, reassemble the picture and save it to disk. It has to do this 30 times for each second of video captured. This was about 3 years ago I tried the "Dazzle" device. I just thought someone may have tried it more recently with better results. I'm sure a modern digital camera would give the best results for still pictures. Sam TRPLUS@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I called the audio-visual service I've used in the past to duplicate my VHS > tapes. > > Here's what I was told. They can transfer your VHS tapes to DVD. I didn't ask > what that would cost as there would be many variables (i.e., length of the > VHS tapes, how many would fit on one DVD, and how many copies you'd want of the > DVD). Walmart may even be able to do that for you inexpensively. Would make > wonderful Christmas presents. > > Because VHS has two fields (audio and visual). You can only capture the audio > to a CD (this is what the transcriptionists use to transcribe). > > This particular place I called charges $85/hr to pull still images off of > VHS. They can do about 15-20 images/hr depending on how well organized the > information is that you give them. He explained that if you "zero out the counter" > and then note at what time the pictures appear on the VHS, they can maximize > the process. > > The software I mentioned before "Snappy or Snap It" may have some "motion > jitter or bluriness." I saw a demonstration years ago and although the freeze > frame technology was great, I don't recall seeing a finished snapshot off of the > equipment. The tech I spoke to said they can generally get a better quality > photo than you would get using the software above. > > I hope this information helps some. At least you have some of the industry > terminology to go forward. > > Lois Hetrick Stewart > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html

>From History Moments, posted by John W. Ashbury on the Frederick Co. MD, Mailing List. " On November 15, 1859, Meschach Browning, who was born in Frederick County in 1781 and who became one of the most prolific hunters in American history, died at the home of his daughter, Nancy Nattingly, at Hoyes in Garrett County. His diaries tell the story of early America and were published several times, beginning in 1859 as "Forty-Four Years in the Life of A Hunter."

I belong to several genealogy reflectors (lists), and four Myfamily.com sites using my email address cn8ff@aol. and I do get some spam, but I ran an experiment by creating a new email address and using it for one and only one website. That website was the one for NBC asking for a summary of the evening news which they offer. With the new email address I now receive around 20 to 25 spam emails each day. Most of them are for drugs, or mortgage offers. Of course, some others I would not want to name. The "only" non spam email I receive on the new email address is the summary for the nightly NBC news. I also tryied this once before and used it only for The New York Times, and I had the same results I had with NBC. To me this proves that genealogy sites are not the problem of passing out your email address. It is the media selling or passing the email address out to their advertisers. How many of you go to media websites for the news?????? Dick Wilt, Bridgeport, WV www.RWILT.com

Thanks, Mary, for the informtion. I am not really in the position of being interesting in saving VHS tapes to DVD -- I never bought a camcorder. I do work in a photo lab in in a store chain here in Michigan. It's always nice to be able to provide information to customers and other people interesting in the process. Thanks again. Lois Melinat >From: Mary Teets <mteets@erols.com> >Reply-To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com >To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] DVD STORAGE for VCR tapes >Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:02:42 -0500 > >Lois--This is from PC Photo--wonderful magazine and site - >www.pcphotomag.com. This article was written in Sept 2001. > _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx

In a message dated 11/18/2003 2:23:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, bowsersa@pa.net writes: > My experience went like this- Sam, reading this story about your experiences rings so many familiar bells. I'm still laughing as I know first hand how frustrating this all can be . . . That's why I've resorted to organizing what I want done and then test the waters with various types of printers and audio/visual people. I can't even begin to tell you all the stories/nightmares of jobs I've tried to do for clients that turned into a similar situation before I learned how to do some of this stuff . . . and I couldn't pass that cost onto the client either. Had to just chaulk it up to a learning experience. > This becomes work, not fun; after 8 hours or so. > That's why people get $80-$90 an hour (probably more now), to do it. > Copying a tape to disk is easy. Once you have the equipment set up, you > can go have a six-pack &the computer does the work. Editing, adding > graphics and sound bytes are excruciating. Until I got more RAM, a beefed up graphics card and more gigabytes of speed, I'd get almost a full page of photos up and my computer would lock up too. I had to turn the auto backup off when I was manipulating the photos (some were TIFFs), because I would get to a point when I was almost finished and it would freeze up on me again. I tried saving more often as I went along, but every save took 5-10 minutes and then it would go into auto backup again. My last family history calendar and trying to multi task pushed me over the brink . . . I went out and purchased a CPU full of gigabytes, but still no DVD capacity. > So I ended up with something like a half hour of material I wanted to > change > to DVD format. Not that I could put it on disk anyway, since I didn't have a > DVD recorder (but I could play it back on the computer). Anyway, the > computer told me it was going to take 8 hours or more to process this 20 > minutes to a half hour of stuff I put together. The computer locked up > about half way through and I went through the whole process again. This > time I ended up with 15 minutes worth. Yep . . . same as I experienced . . . and it wasn't funny at the time. > The playback was fine, as long as you kept it in the little 3"X 4" box, > which > was the default. When you went to full screen mode, the picture quality was > lousy. Probably would have been worse on a tv. > > My camcorder is Super VHS. If you've ever copied VHS tapes much, you > know the first copy is usually decent. If you make a copy FROM the copy, > the picture quality deteriorates badly. My brother-in-law used WalMart to copy his 8mm or 16mm (I can't remember what he had), but his tapes were all on little reels. They had been stored for almost 50 years (I was on them at 13 years old!). He tried to show them 30 years ago and the film keep breaking, and he'd have to splice it together. They were silent movies at that time though. I advanced the money for him to take all the tapes of the family get-togethers and have them put on VHS. He started out viewing the films first and then when his projector bulb burned out, he just grabbed a bunch of reels and had them copied too -- I've got about 1/2 hour of boats and fish photos on Lake Erie, no people. Oh there were a few shots of people but you had to look real quick or you were looking at more fish or more boats going hither and yon -- the same boat, over and over, probably the same fish being held by everyone that fished that day. At least you can fast forward through the monotony. I have three VHS tapes full of wonderful pictures. One of them has a picture of the old Hetrick barn at Melchoir and Lizzy Hetrick's farm on Maynardier Ridge Road (my grandparents). We took a picture of it with our Sony camcorder in 1992. The camcorder bit the dust last year. Doris tried to find that same picture for us so we could get a shot of it with our new digital camera but we ran out of time as Isabel was moving in and we had to meet other cousins for dinner. I'm going to sit down with my tapes and run them and get an hour's worth of photos to be extracted. It would be worth the money. We managed to get footage of one of my (Glotfelty) cousins a year before she died. No one had ever taken a picture of her on camcorder. We were teasing her that she was going to be a movie star. She got all embarrased. That was the first year I started working on my family history. We drove to Salisbury, MD on our way to Garrett County. Got out of the car with the camcorder running and my brother narriating as we walked up Rock Rd to my uncle Roy's home first stopping at the school. As we approached uncle Roy's house some little kids saw us coming with the camcorder running and didn't know what to think of it all. It was their grandmother Miriam Garlitz (uncle Roy's eldest daughter) that we got on camcorder. We passed the old abandoned Humble gas station where Mark Hetrick worked and just a block or so further West to Miriam and Sam Garlitz's house where their family maintained the Salibury cemetery. That little bit of film was priceless to Miriam's family. With Super VHS you have a little > higher resolution and the picture doesn't > deteriorate quite as badly. I think 8MM or Super 8 (Sony) probably also holds > up better than regular VHS. Could be. I have copies made from both and I can't really tell (or remember the difference). The lighting was a real problem in the 50s and 60s though. A lot of the footage was taken inside. My brother-in-law finally got a set of lights to use inside. There were 3-4 large lights across in a row and a handle (was "T" shaped). > The main problem I think was not the "Dazzle" device (which has SVHS in > and out jacks); but a slow computer with not enough memory to handle > video capture; even though I was assured by the salesman <G> that it > would work fine. Yes, I can imagine. You are at their mercy when you can't talk the language or understand the process. > I should add that I bought the external device that plugged into the serial > port (I don't think it was USB). An internal card, Firewire, a faster > machine > with more memory; all of that should make a big difference. I'll try it > again > with my next computer (with DVD recorder). I think the results will be much > better. The life of a computer for me has averaged 3 years or less (usually > less), so I won't have to wait too long. Yes, me too. I think we're up to 7 now. I still don't have DVD or a flat screen . . . and you have to pay to have the old ones hauled away. Talk about adding insult to injury [:o) Lois

Hello everyone. Just a quick opinion of my family.com web sites. I have been an administrator and member of these sites for over 3 years, West Virginia has about 30 counties covered at this time. I have met cousins I never knew I had close by,and alot of friends, I really enjoy doing the work that I do for my 3 sites and sharing the info I find,and my research.Helping others find what they might be looking for. I also make trips to Wv and take photos at Cemeteries just so i can share with some that might not be able to get to WV . I also have been helped in many ways. I think it's great that Bonnie and Terri are willing to take the time to start this site in Maryland, For some of you not agreeing with these sites thats your opinion,and I just gave mine, now I'm back to my research and not reading these posts anymore,I have some work to do on my sites. Good luck with your site,and I'll be posting soon on the Western Maryland site,maybe I can find another lost cousin in Maryla! nd. Carolyn

Your right - you would hate it. Don't go. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel J. Bowser" <bowsersa@pa.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] New website > > > Terrie Smith wrote: > > > You don't has to type one word > > Give me a break. The point is with rootsweb you can put your > stuff on line and anyone can access it free anytime, no logging > in or entering a password. And you don't have to spend an hour > groping through menus to find what you're looking for. > > Sam > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > >

Terrie Smith wrote: > You don't has to type one word Give me a break. The point is with rootsweb you can put your stuff on line and anyone can access it free anytime, no logging in or entering a password. And you don't have to spend an hour groping through menus to find what you're looking for. Sam

My experience went like this- I bought one of the "Dazzle" video capture devices, probably in 1999 or 2000. I think my computer was 400 MH at the time; extremely slow by today's standards, and had much less than the 256 MB of RAM than I have on the 1.2 machine I'm using now. I didn't have too much trouble setting up the device, and the software (Ulead) seemed adequate, once you figured it out. The process went something like this. You hook up the VCR or camcorder to the capture device and put the whole tape (or whatever part of it you want to work with) on your hard drive. This will be in analog format. Then you use the software to edit. This can be an extremely slow process, if you're as sloppy with the camcorder and as particular about the finished product as I try to be. This becomes work, not fun; after 8 hours or so. That's why people get $80-$90 an hour (probably more now), to do it. Copying a tape to disk is easy. Once you have the equipment set up, you can go have a six-pack & the computer does the work. Editing, adding graphics and sound bytes are excruciating. So I ended up with something like a half hour of material I wanted to change to DVD format. Not that I could put it on disk anyway, since I didn't have a DVD recorder (but I could play it back on the computer). Anyway, the computer told me it was going to take 8 hours or more to process this 20 minutes to a half hour of stuff I put together. The computer locked up about half way through and I went through the whole process again. This time I ended up with 15 minutes worth. The playback was fine, as long as you kept it in the little 3"X 4" box, which was the default. When you went to full screen mode, the picture quality was lousy. Probably would have been worse on a tv. My camcorder is Super VHS. If you've ever copied VHS tapes much, you know the first copy is usually decent. If you make a copy FROM the copy, the picture quality deteriorates badly. With Super VHS you have a little higher resolution and the picture doesn't deteriorate quite as badly. I think 8MM or Super 8 (Sony) probably also holds up better than regular VHS. The main problem I think was not the "Dazzle" device (which has SVHS in and out jacks); but a slow computer with not enough memory to handle video capture; even though I was assured by the salesman <G> that it would work fine. I should add that I bought the external device that plugged into the serial port (I don't think it was USB). An internal card, Firewire, a faster machine with more memory; all of that should make a big difference. I'll try it again with my next computer (with DVD recorder). I think the results will be much better. The life of a computer for me has averaged 3 years or less (usually less), so I won't have to wait too long. Sam TRPLUS@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I called the audio-visual service I've used in the past to duplicate my VHS > tapes. > > Here's what I was told. They can transfer your VHS tapes to DVD. I didn't ask > what that would cost as there would be many variables (i.e., length of the > VHS tapes, how many would fit on one DVD, and how many copies you'd want of the > DVD). Walmart may even be able to do that for you inexpensively. Would make > wonderful Christmas presents. > > Because VHS has two fields (audio and visual). You can only capture the audio > to a CD (this is what the transcriptionists use to transcribe). > > This particular place I called charges $85/hr to pull still images off of > VHS. They can do about 15-20 images/hr depending on how well organized the > information is that you give them. He explained that if you "zero out the counter" > and then note at what time the pictures appear on the VHS, they can maximize > the process. > > The software I mentioned before "Snappy or Snap It" may have some "motion > jitter or bluriness." I saw a demonstration years ago and although the freeze > frame technology was great, I don't recall seeing a finished snapshot off of the > equipment. The tech I spoke to said they can generally get a better quality > photo than you would get using the software above. > > I hope this information helps some. At least you have some of the industry > terminology to go forward. > > Lois Hetrick Stewart > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html

I am not describing ancestry.com per se. The website idea was started by them. When the admin or sponsor pays for the site you pay ancestry.com.. You do not contribute any information to ancestry.com unless you choose to. You don't have to be a member to join the myfamily.com sites. There is a place to post your tree on the site IF you choose to even then if does not go to Ancestry.com unless you submit it to them which can de done. Almost nobody posts their trees on the site and I would not either. You do not have to"tell" anything unless you choose to. Anybody who has never been part of these sites should ask for an inivtation and just check it out. It is a lot like the forums through GenWEb -Roots web is also owed by ancestry.com but it is not part of it. You don't has to type one word while on the site - you can just go and get what information some other person as left on the site. Most of them have people willing to do lookups in their books and most post photos of a relative you have somewhere in your files. It is not a scam, it is not a rip off, nobody requires you submit "your stuff" anywhere. Most don't care whether you share or not. again Rootsweb might be free but I encourage you to find out who owns the site. Go to front page Rootsweb.com and look to the right -supported by........Ancestry.com and I thought the same thing -submit to them because they do not charge others to find it. I am not here to boost ancestry.com and I would not do that - but anybody who does not check into these and has the negitive attitude is never going to discover what I have called the greatest thing to happend to internet genealogy searching. On my WV sites - I searched out and found the bookwriters, the "experts" and the people in the know on local names. They came and they came back because the idea caught on. They don't charge for their help and most are willing to share. Those of who who let the negitivity of people who cannot accept that this is something that is free to use and free to share (or not share) - they cannot accept change or anything new and are just plain negitive, I am asking you to ask for an invitation -go one time. Now charge at the door, noone asks you for your hard work -justlook and then you don't like it-then go to then go to list of members and delete yourself or else write admin and ask them to delete you. Easy really. Really guys a little more trust would not kill you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel J. Bowser" <bowsersa@pa.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] New website > Sounds like you're describing ancestry.com. I belong to it, > and that's exactly the reason I have no intention of putting > my data in their "My Family" or whatever they call it.com. > > One day I'll put it on rootsweb where anyone can access it > without going through Ancestry's rigamaro. > > Sam > > "K.Fitzgerald" wrote: > > > I'm curious.... > > This new web site isn't one of those "closed" web sites places where you > > have to supply the sponsor > > with your guest's name and e-mail address before they can visit is it? Where > > they can > > only visit the site after they read this long list of legal > > mumbo-jumbo (which is usually written so that few people actually read > > through it all....much less understand it) terms that they must agree to > > before > > they can enter and use the site for the first time? Where once a guest > > visits... the sponsor then sends them little messages (whenever someone > > posts > > something new at the site) to click on a link provided in > > the message so they can visit the site again and see what's been added? > > . > > The reason I ask is that I made the mistake of visiting a site like that a > > few years ago and after a while > > I began to notice that I would get this increase in SPAM after each visit. > > Finally put two and two together and made some inquiries..... > > Seems the folks who sponsor many of these so-called "free" but "closed" > > sites do so because it provides them with a means of collecting what they > > know to be active/valid e-mail addresses. They use and/or sell these e-mail > > addresses for SPAM purposes. They get away with this under the claim that > > it's > > not SPAM because the guest freely supplied their name & email address plus > > agreed > > to receive advertisements from them an/or their associates. > > Every time a person visits or revisits one of these "closed sites" it > > confirms that their email address is still valid and active. > > . > > Sponsoring genealogy websites is especially popular among those wanting to > > compile valid/active e-mail address lists because genealogists make up such > > a > > large percentage of today's Internet users. > > . > > Hmmm? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Terrie Smith <terrie7@alltel.net> > > To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:23 PM > > Subject: [MDGARRET] New website > > > > > There is a new forum type website on MyFamily.com called Western Maryland: > > Including Garrett and Allegany Counties. This forum allows posting of > > pictures and other documents. The site is brand new and there is not much > > there. But, it is expected to have a large response. If you are interested > > in joining us, please email me you first and last name alongwith your email > > address. Thank you Terrie Smith and Bonnie McCRoby Wuensche. > > > > > > terrie7@alltel.net > > > > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. >

Sounds like you're describing ancestry.com. I belong to it, and that's exactly the reason I have no intention of putting my data in their "My Family" or whatever they call it.com. One day I'll put it on rootsweb where anyone can access it without going through Ancestry's rigamaro. Sam "K.Fitzgerald" wrote: > I'm curious.... > This new web site isn't one of those "closed" web sites places where you > have to supply the sponsor > with your guest's name and e-mail address before they can visit is it? Where > they can > only visit the site after they read this long list of legal > mumbo-jumbo (which is usually written so that few people actually read > through it all....much less understand it) terms that they must agree to > before > they can enter and use the site for the first time? Where once a guest > visits... the sponsor then sends them little messages (whenever someone > posts > something new at the site) to click on a link provided in > the message so they can visit the site again and see what's been added? > . > The reason I ask is that I made the mistake of visiting a site like that a > few years ago and after a while > I began to notice that I would get this increase in SPAM after each visit. > Finally put two and two together and made some inquiries..... > Seems the folks who sponsor many of these so-called "free" but "closed" > sites do so because it provides them with a means of collecting what they > know to be active/valid e-mail addresses. They use and/or sell these e-mail > addresses for SPAM purposes. They get away with this under the claim that > it's > not SPAM because the guest freely supplied their name & email address plus > agreed > to receive advertisements from them an/or their associates. > Every time a person visits or revisits one of these "closed sites" it > confirms that their email address is still valid and active. > . > Sponsoring genealogy websites is especially popular among those wanting to > compile valid/active e-mail address lists because genealogists make up such > a > large percentage of today's Internet users. > . > Hmmm? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terrie Smith <terrie7@alltel.net> > To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:23 PM > Subject: [MDGARRET] New website > > > There is a new forum type website on MyFamily.com called Western Maryland: > Including Garrett and Allegany Counties. This forum allows posting of > pictures and other documents. The site is brand new and there is not much > there. But, it is expected to have a large response. If you are interested > in joining us, please email me you first and last name alongwith your email > address. Thank you Terrie Smith and Bonnie McCRoby Wuensche. > > > > terrie7@alltel.net > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

THANKS BOTH OF YOU, YOU WOKE A LOT OF PEOPLE UP AND MADE THEM WONDER, I LOVE THE SITES I AM ON IN PA AND MD AND THER ALL ARE VERY HELPFUL MJ MARY JANE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

Last night I responded to a letter and I had no idea it was going to the entire list. I am very sorry about the response I gave for all to see. I was more than a little irritated with the mistrust of her and a few more like her and I guess that probably showed. I have an obsession with genealogy and right now I think these sites are the best thing that has happened to online research. You have one gathering place for forum, inquiries and postings. Theres no catch and have initiated a plan to get all counties WV represented and I would hope it catches on to other states. I hope that how I reacted to the ignorance of one person will not put any of you off for joining the site. I had planned to admin the site along with Bonnie and think now that that would not be for the best. I will not be admin on the Garrett Co site and ask that you send your emails to Bonnie McCroby Wuensche at mccroby@hotmail.com. I will still be a member as my McCroby roots lie there too but I ! will not admin and I do hope that any of you that were put off by my unintentional post will reconsider. Thank you, Terrie Smith

they need to send a request to the court house where they were married -----Original Message----- From: Marylynn Glover [mailto:mickey14710@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDGARRET] Marriage License Info I am trying to find a marriage license that was issued in the early 1990. in Oakland, MD. I do mean 1990 not 1890. Are these records still in Oakland, and if so does anyone know the address and phone number so that it can be located. This is an important issue, as my brother in law is in Fla. and not doing too well, and he and his wife have lost the original license. Your help would be most appreciated. Thank you in advance. Marylynn Glover _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

I am trying to find a marriage license that was issued in the early 1990. in Oakland, MD. I do mean 1990 not 1890. Are these records still in Oakland, and if so does anyone know the address and phone number so that it can be located. This is an important issue, as my brother in law is in Fla. and not doing too well, and he and his wife have lost the original license. Your help would be most appreciated. Thank you in advance. Marylynn Glover _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

Mary, Thanks for the information. I'm printing it out for future reference. Although I have had some experience with a lot of different media. I try to keep to the most simple approach to things. I do not like to read for one thing. I'm a lot more artistic and creative than I am comprehensive. Show me how and I get it, but don't give me a book to try to figure it out ;o). My husband is the hardware/software tech in our business, and even he won't mess with some stuff. We have a computer tech who we've used for 15 years to build and maintain our business computers. I've used an audio/visual company to dupe VHS tapes for me before. They have all the latest and greatest equipment and knowledge. My time is at a premium these days so I'd rather pay to have some of this stuff done. Just recently found out that Walmart does a lot of duping, etc. They did a nice job for my brother-in-law who had a lot of his old movie reels copied to VHS with music added. I believe it cost him about $20 a copy to put 7 or 8 reels on one VHS tape. The following is a little off topic but it's along the lines of duplicating family history products. Rather than scanning photos to make family history calendars, photos can be arranged in a collage and color copied. The color copies (Kinko's) may cost up to $1 a copy; whereas the time to scan and print on your own equipment may be less costly, it will still cost you about $.50 per page of color print. Cartridges are not inexpensive. It costs about $70 for a color and black cartridge for my printer and it is only good for about 150 or so full pages of color. I haven't tried to refill my own cartridges. So for those who do and are successful at it, they can save even more. For instance, I just recently printed out 40 full pages of family history photos (a mix of b&w and color prints) that I had scanned and captioned over the years. I outsourced them to a copy/print house to make 20 copies for me. They had to rescan them to print them, but you couldn't tell the difference. It only cost $3 per album v. $50 each in color. Kinko's has sepia (the brown tone like the old tintypes), but they also charge more for their copies . . . and sepia is considered color I believe. For what it's worth . . . Lois

http://www.vitalrec.com/md.html This page should help you out. Janie Shepherd wife of author Ron Shepherd The River Calls A River of Seasons To obtain copies visit: publishamerica.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marylynn Glover" <mickey14710@hotmail.com> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: [MDGARRET] Marriage License Info > > > I am trying to find a marriage license that was issued in the early 1990. in > Oakland, MD. I do mean 1990 not 1890. > Are these records still in Oakland, and if so does anyone know the address > and phone number so that it can be located. > This is an important issue, as my brother in law is in Fla. and not doing > too well, and he and his wife have lost the original license. > Your help would be most appreciated. Thank you in advance. > Marylynn Glover > > _________________________________________________________________ > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over > limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > > >

HI, HERE ARE THE PHONE NO. FOR OAKLAND MARRIAGES- 301-344-8970 AND IF THEY ARE NOT THERE CALL CUMBERLAND --301-777-5911 AND TO GET INFORMATION ON THE NET :, IN YOUR WEB SEARCH TYPE IN OAKLAND MARRYAND MARRIAGES AND YOU WILL GET ALL KIND OF INFO. MARY JANE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

I too belong to some myfamily sites. I have enjoyed reading what other people post. I have not had not spam from the site. You can decide for yourself if you want to recieve notification of every post, there is a check list to choose what you want delivered to your in box. I chose to have notification of new posted to my in-box because I don't want to miss a thing. There is alot of nice people that are members of the site and I am glad that i joined. Terrie Smith <terrie7@alltel.net> wrote:You know, suit yourself if you want to join. I pay for this "so called free site" and I invite people who what to be there. I am on 40 sites and admin 3 of them. I wanted a way for all to have access to the same genealogy information in one spot. It is closed -it is by invite only - if anyone wants to join they email me. I have never rec'd spam. There is nothing in it for me other than helping others while I am helping myself. But I will NOT try to convince someone who does not want to be there-between my job myfamily and my genealogy obsession I do not have time for cohersing someone who is wasting my time. You want an invite - you email and ask me for it. I do not care either way. I do not care what kind of sales you get in spam I receive none from the site. Anymore questions go and read the "LEGAL MUMBLE JUMBLE". I don't think you would like our site anyway -way too many nice and trusting people. You just would not fit in. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K.Fitzgerald" To: Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] New website > I'm curious.... > This new web site isn't one of those "closed" web sites places where you > have to supply the sponsor > with your guest's name and e-mail address before they can visit is it? Where > they can > only visit the site after they read this long list of legal > mumbo-jumbo (which is usually written so that few people actually read > through it all....much less understand it) terms that they must agree to > before > they can enter and use the site for the first time? Where once a guest > visits... the sponsor then sends them little messages (whenever someone > posts > something new at the site) to click on a link provided in > the message so they can visit the site again and see what's been added? > . > The reason I ask is that I made the mistake of visiting a site like that a > few years ago and after a while > I began to notice that I would get this increase in SPAM after each visit. > Finally put two and two together and made some inquiries..... > Seems the folks who sponsor many of these so-called "free" but "closed" > sites do so because it provides them with a means of collecting what they > know to be active/valid e-mail addresses. They use and/or sell these e-mail > addresses for SPAM purposes. They get away with this under the claim that > it's > not SPAM because the guest freely supplied their name & email address plus > agreed > to receive advertisements from them an/or their associates. > Every time a person visits or revisits one of these "closed sites" it > confirms that their email address is still valid and active. > . > Sponsoring genealogy websites is especially popular among those wanting to > compile valid/active e-mail address lists because genealogists make up such > a > large percentage of today's Internet users. > . > Hmmm? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terrie Smith > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:23 PM > Subject: [MDGARRET] New website > > > > There is a new forum type website on MyFamily.com called Western Maryland: > Including Garrett and Allegany Counties. This forum allows posting of > pictures and other documents. The site is brand new and there is not much > there. But, it is expected to have a large response. If you are interested > in joining us, please email me you first and last name alongwith your email > address. Thank you Terrie Smith and Bonnie McCRoby Wuensche. > > > > terrie7@alltel.net > > > > > > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html