I hope somebody stopped this before it went far. This comes up quite often, and is phoney. It always comes from somebody who believes it implicitly. I fell for it about a year ago, and deleted the file from my computer, which I should not have done. Fortunately, I do not use the file anyway, but those to whom I forwarded the message may have had a different situation. I quickly got responses informing me of the hoax from some people I had contacted.

Kathleen, Regarding Marie Vespie Friend - born in 1908 - are you sure of the birth date? The reason I am asking is - that would make Mary Martha about 50 years old at the time of Marie's birth. Wendy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/11/03

Sam, From the preface by Edward Stabler I found the following: "My task, though a "labor of love," is comparatively a very humble one, and has been mainly confined to the correction of grammatical errors; for I desired as much as possible to preserve the easy and rather peculiar style of the Author , as it came from his sturdy and unpractised pen,....." I am now up to chapter three, and intend to reserve judgement until I read the entire work. I have put my foot in my mouth enough for a while. Delores

Kathleen, You have Alvin Harrison Friend as being born Aug. 1889. I have him as Oct. 10, 1888 and died on May 13, 1952 and is buried at Friends Cemetery, Hoyes Run, Garrett Co., Maryland. The information for this was taken from an obituary that I think I got from Pat. Wendy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/03

For what's it's worth. The mere comment on storing, archiving, and publishing our genealogy to a CD probably saved me hundreds of dollars. It was right in my face. I work with this media every day, but was so deep into the "old" ways of publishing, I may never have thought about publishing all of my information to CDs like Mr. Wilt if it hadn't been for this site. For this, I am very grateful. Resources, space and organization, and equipment we use to collect our genealogy is very important to me. I in no way meant to sound like I was bragging about what I have or how I manage things. Was instead trying to offer some idea of how I've done things in the hopes it will help others on the list. Again, I apologize if I've done something wrong but am thankful to all of you who have contributed to this information. This is all I have to say on this matter. Lois Hetrick Stewart

In a message dated 11/23/2003 11:41:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, Rossjohns4@aol.com writes: > I am sorry to sound like a grump - but how does this message relate to > Garrett Co Genealogy? > Perhaps you intended to send it only to one person and hit reply to all by > accident??? Thought maybe some would be interested in ways of capturing their photos and resources for repairs of their equipment. Sometimes we get a little of topic. Sorry if I wasted space and anyone's time. Lois

I have a good number of pages of baptism records from St. Peter's Catholic Church in Oakland all before the restricted date of 1930. I got them from the Md. Archives microfilm this June. I would like to transcribe them and post them, but old Baptism records of Catholic churches were latinized by the priests. So the first names were morphed into a Latin name. They were also hand written. So I have 2 concerns. 1., Reading the handwriting accurately., 2., Should I try to put the first name back into english or (I think this is what I should do) just try to spell the name out as written by the priest and let you out on the list decide whether it could be a name you are interested in. On a limited basis I can probably send a scan of individual records anyone asks me about. Also the words between the names are latin and I have picked up on some of them but not all. It will take me quite a while to post them all, but this is a good message board and there is lots of good sharing! here. Hey, out on the list, do you agree I should try my best to type the names just as Latinized by the priests? Art --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now

I'm afraid I got everyone started with my "Not about Walt W message" recalling how we all wondered what happened to Jack L's 900 page civil war novel manuscript and research files, then everyone got worried about how to donate their files and how to record their videos to disk, and how to get photos from in a video to still form. Not to sound like an ad, but I had heard of a product that converts vhs tapes straight to dvd and yesterday I heard a mention in a Sears ad, then found the following which is available from more sellers: "The external HP DVD movie writer dc3000 with built-in analog video capture lets you quickly and easily transfer home video directly from tape (via camcorder or VCR) to DVD. All for a low price of $349.00." The way I read it you just plug in your video and audio wires from a vcr or camcorder and put in a blank dvd disk, start the machine, and the rest is automatic. Art TRPLUS@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/23/2003 11:41:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, Rossjohns4@aol.com writes: > I am sorry to sound like a grump - but how does this message relate to > Garrett Co Genealogy? > Perhaps you intended to send it only to one person and hit reply to all by > accident??? Thought maybe some would be interested in ways of capturing their photos and resources for repairs of their equipment. Sometimes we get a little of topic. Sorry if I wasted space and anyone's time. Lois ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now

Hi Lois: I meant to send that directly to you, rather than the list. $200 sounds like a steal if you can find one for that. Regular 17" monitor at Walmart was $118 . When you say "Liquid Chrystal Display" and Plasma screen tv in the same breath, it sounds like similar technology, but whether the two are the same, similar, or dissimilar; I don't know. I haven't been getting very good mileage out of regular monitors. About 3 years. According to the techies, heat is usually the culprit. With 9 volt for LCD compared to 120V for a regular monitor, maybe less heat will mean longer life. Time will tell. As far as plasma tv at $5000- I don't think so. I envy your space, but I know; regardless of how much one has, the more one gets, and the space fills up, & one needs more room, so they can get more stuff; etc., ...<G> Sam TRPLUS@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Sam, > > Been looking at the flat screens . . . seems I've seen them at Cosco for > around $200. I may be dreaming, but it's worth checking against Walmart. An > additional note: Plasma screen TV's are said to only have a two year life. That's a > real kick in the pants huh. That may be important for those that use WebTV and > are considering upgrading. So best to get an extended warranty on those! > > I have three 3'x6' tables in my office. They are put together in a U shape. I > got the tables at auction for a song. This gives me lots of room for all my > equipment across the back of the three tables against the wall: two laser > printers, CPU, reference books, two small shelving units--a scanner sits on top of > one and a small TV with VCR on the other. I also have a phone and three > different types of copy holders. Oh yes, and a computer shelf on top of the monitor. > The 3' of remaining room to either side is used for client consultation and > work/desk writing space. I had to buy an adjustable chair and foot rest to get > my posture correct in front of my monitor. > > A flat screen monitor would help open up some room, but I would lose the > computer shelf. My problem is with storage of all the HD, zip discs, and now CDs I > have on my table tops for quick access. > > I have a 9-drawer bureau behind me. Two drawers are already loaded up with > discs and CD casings. Two drawers hold cables and electrical, one drawer is > greetings cards, another four drawers house transcription tapes, cartidges and > other misc supplies. I think I need some kind of a unit to hang on the wall to > house my discs. As I downsize my business though, I will have more room. Thank > goodness I don't need two computers on my desk . . . at least at this point. > :-) I have a hutch in my office that has Windows 3.1 software on it and it's > connected to my industrial scanner which doesn't work with the newer Windows > versions; also have a zip drive on that computer to capture photo scans to zip > discs from that setup. So a lot depends on how you use your computer equipment. > The monitors are hard on the eyes for sure. I have an anti glare sheild on my > 17" monitor and use prescription computer glasses with anti glare protection. I > still get eye strain at times. You are supposed to get up for 5 min every 15 > min you're at the computer--it helps everything--the bode and the eyes. > Sometimes hours go by before I know it . . . and then I can hardly straighten up. > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

Hi Pat: Funny this came up when it did, because I had this screen up for the 1900 census. This must have been, Stephen Jr. 1900 Federal census, Maryland, Garrett County, Election District 6 (Sang Run area) Enumeration District 42, Sheet 8A, SK Image 42-08A taken June 13-14. Unless shown otherwise, all members of the household and all of their parents were born in MD and were able to read & write, age at last birthday. Dwelling 134 Family 134 "Friend, Stephen W.", Head, WM age 45 born Dec., 1854, married 19 years (1881), Farmer, Owns his Farm, Free of Mortgage. "Mary M.", Wife, WF age 32, born May 1868, Married 19 years (1881) Mother of 10 Children, 9 Living. Children: Wm. D., Feb 1884. "Rebecca L.", March, 1885. "Lacy V.", Aug., 1886. "Alva H.", Aug., 1887; "Blanch", July 1889; "Lenzie (?) E.", Aug.(?), 1893. "Mathias D.", July 1895. "Pearly M. C.", July, 1899. Wonder what "Mary M."'s maiden name was. One child is missing; probably the oldest, married. Sam Pat Thompson wrote: > There is a will in the Index of Garrett County Wills for Stephen W. Friend > showing the will to be between 1873 and 1895. There was also a son named > Stephen W. Friend. The 1849 death date looks like a plain typo. > ----------------------- > > Art, your right, it is a typo and the typo was mine. I am sorry. > > Death date should have read, Dec. 17, 1894. > > Stephen Willis Friend, Sr. b. March 18, 1818 at Sang Run, Maryland > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net.

I am sorry to sound like a grump - but how does this message relate to Garrett Co Genealogy? Perhaps you intended to send it only to one person and hit reply to all by accident??? Ross Johnson

----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Mammoliti <wmammoliti@cogeco.ca> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] friend/sines > Kathleen, > > You have Alvin Harrison Friend as being born Aug. 1889. I have him as Oct. > 10, 1888 and died on May 13, 1952 and is buried at Friends Cemetery, Hoyes > Run, Garrett Co., Maryland. The information for this was taken from an > obituary that I think I got from Pat. > > Wendy =========================== Hey Wendy, You're absolutely right, Dear! I have a copy of Alvin's obit from our good Pat as well and it does say Oct.10.1888. I guess I just hadn't gotten around to checking his file against it and correcting the error yet. Thanks so much for pointing this out! I've taken care of that now. . I thought I had gotten that Aug.1889 date off the census but I see it says Aug.1887! http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/md/garrett/census/1900/42-08a.gif I may have scanned one too many census sheets that day and my tired old eyes were playing tricks on me, confusing his birth year with his sister Blanch's directly below. But this then raises the question of the birthdate I have for his sister Blanch in my files. While the 1900 census lists her as 1889, my files say 1891. Hmmm? I may have gotten the date from Paul King's site at GenCircles. http://www.gencircles.com/users/kingpaul/2/data/27556 He too lists Alvin as Aug.1889 and Blanch as Jul.1891. ~ Say, while I was rechecking that source, I spotted a link at Paul's site to a Richard Keefer's site also at GenCircles. http://www.gencircles.com/users/rkeefer/1/data/2070 He has posted a list of children for Stephen Jr. & Mary too. According to Richard's list there was a daughter, child #9, named "Daisey E. Friend, born 1901". He lists his source as the 1910 census for Sang Run. Does anyone know anything about her? She's a new one for me. He also lists child #10 as "Vespie M., born Jun. 1908", also according to the 1910 census. I don't have access to the 1910 census so I wasn't able to recheck this info. =========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Mammoliti <wmammoliti@cogeco.ca> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] friend/sines > Kathleen, > > Regarding Marie Vespie Friend - born in 1908 - are you sure of the birth > date? The reason I am asking is - that would make Mary Martha about 50 years > old at the time of Marie's birth. > > Wendy =========================== No I'm not, but the 1908 date IS what I keep running across for Marie Vespie (or Vespie Marie?), It's a bit late in life but certainly not impossible in an era when birth control methods were pretty limited, of course. Will keep poking about for answers... Bye for now, Kathleen

Looking for the Obituary of George W COLEMAN, d May 1st 1921 in Garrett County. Thanks, Bernice Carter

There is a will in the Index of Garrett County Wills for Stephen W. Friend showing the will to be between 1873 and 1895. There was also a son named Stephen W. Friend. The 1849 death date looks like a plain typo. ----------------------- Art, your right, it is a typo and the typo was mine. I am sorry. Death date should have read, Dec. 17, 1894. Stephen Willis Friend, Sr. b. March 18, 1818 at Sang Run, Maryland

Hello everyone: This family lived in Bedford Co and Somerset Co, PA, some moved to Garrett Co, MD and back to Somerset Co, PA. I am requesting assistance or any available information regarding the following family: Harry W. RHOADS, (Rhoades, Rhoads, Rhodes, Roade, Roads), b. 10 Apr 1897, Brothersvalley, Somerset Co, PA - parents...Elmer E. RHOADS, b. 18 Jul 1863, Brothersvalley, Somerset Co, PA, Caroline R. "Carrie" HAUGER (Hager), b. 17 Aug 1864, Brothersvalley, Somerset Co, PA Harry W. had sister's: Mary, Susan, Sadie and Beatrice, brother's: Kimmel and Norman. Harry W. RHOADS married Katherine R. WYAND, (Wayland, Weiand, Weiland, Weyand, Weyandt, Weyant, Weyland, Wiland, Wyant, Wyland, Wyon). Katherine's father was Harry A., b. 10 Nov 1886, Somerset Co, PA, mother named Anna, b. c. 1888 PA. Harry A. WYAND's parents were Adam WYAND, b. Apr 1842, and Katherine. Adam and Katherine WYAND's daughter's were Anna and Margaret, other son's were John, Jacob, Edward, and William Prior to 1870 the WYAND family lived in Juniata Twp, Bedford Co, PA, thereafter they moved to Somerset Co, PA. Katherine R. WYAND and Harry W. RHOADS were married c. 1928. Following their marriage, Katherine R., her husband Harry W. along with Katherine's sister Grace E. moved to Accident, Garrett Co, MD. Years later they moved back to Brothersvalley, Somerset Co, PA, where they remained for the rest of their lives. If you have knowledge of, or have these people in your family, I would appreciate any thing you could share. Thank you. Kenneth

In the 1880 census Charlie Wilheim, at 3 years old, was living with his grandparents, Andrew and Anna Mary Hetrick Schneider/Snyder at their Dung Hill/Legeer Road in Bittinger, MD. Anyone know who Charlie's parents were? Lois Hetrick Stewart In a message dated 11/22/2003 8:24:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, gradya3@yahoo.com writes: > Susan eventually married Samuel Wilhelm (s/o Sophia &Frederick Wilhelm) and > had children by him. Some list Rebecca among them as Rebecca Wilhelm. >

Mary Jane, I got my copy from the Garrett County Historical Society. I believe a lady by the name of Martha Kahl handles the books ordered by mail. Call the GCHS at 301 334 3226 or by mail- 107 s. 2nd St., Oakland, Md. 21550 or PO Box 28, Oakland, Md. 21550 ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJDUGAN" <mjedugan@yahoo.com> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Meschach Browning > Thanks where can you get the book? mjd > > > > MARY JANE > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > >

Mr. Sam asked: "...Wonder what "Mary M."'s maiden name was...." That would be: "...Mary Martha DeWitt..." but I don't know who her folks were. He mentioned: "..One child is missing, probably the oldest, married.." This is weird Sam. The 1900 census says Mary was the mother of 10 with 9 living children that year and my files do list them with 9 children.... BUT......the only one of the nine children (listed in my files) that wasn't in the 1900 census was daughter Marie Vespie Friend. I don't list her as being born until Jun.30.1908 so if she's the missing 9th child then I MUST have her birth date wrong. I list the nine as: 1) William D. Friend b: Feb.1884 2) Rebecca L. Friend b: Mar.1885 3) Lucy V. Friend b: Aug.1886 4) Alvin Harrison Friend b: Aug.1889 5) Blanch Friend b: Jul.1891 6) Lindsey Ellis Friend b: Jun.1893 7) Mathias D. Friend b: Jul.1895 8) Barbara M. C. Friend b: Jul.1899 9) Marie Vespie Friend b: Jun.30.1908 ====== I list Marie as having died in 1987 and being buried in the Hoyes Run Cem.over in McHenry so maybe someone could check for her birthdate if they have a current list for the Cem. She was married to a McDonald and living in Pottsville, Pa. in 1959, according to her brother Alvin's obit. Stephen & Mary married Oct.24.1880 so if daughter Marie was born before William her birth year would have been between 1881 and 1883. Alvin's obit listed one of his surviving sisters as "Mrs. Mary Woods" of Morgantown. Could "Mary" be the "M" in Barbara M.C.'s name? ====== Mr. Sam said: "....Children: Wm. D., Feb 1884. "Rebecca L.", March, 1885. "Lacy V.", Aug., 1886. "Alva H.", Aug., 1887; "Blanch", July 1889; "Lenzie (?) E.", Aug.(?), 1893. "Mathias D.", July 1895. "Pearly M. C.", July, 1899...." ~ There are lot's of spelling errors on this census page (as usual). Note neighbor Soloman Sines' surname is spelled Sine and his son Asa's name is spelled Asia while son John Henry, living next door, gets his surname spelled correctly as Sines. Anyway, if you look closer at those handwritten entries for Stephen Jr.'s family you'll see: "Lacy V." is Lucy V. "Alva H." is a son, this is Alvin Harrison (according to his obit) and "Pearly" is Barby for Barbara M.C. ============= Bye for now, Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: Samuel J. Bowser <bowsersa@pa.net> To: <MDGARRET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] friend/sines <snip>

Hi Mavis, I still need to make you some copies and mail them. Just clearing out old email. Who is Lisa Readd we were talking about below? Do you know how to get in touch w her? Art Mystry915@aol.com wrote: Art, I think Lisa Readd has moved since posting in the WV Surname Exchange List. I also decend from the Haskels (Haskiels) and Readds (Redds) of Oakland and Tunnelton. I was wondering how you were related to them. They aren't an easy family to trace. ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Carol Hepburn, at chepburn@cox.net. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now

THANKS AGAIN MJD MARY JANE --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard