Wasn't the John Custer, who died in 1830, Cresaptown, Md., recorded with a wife named Catherine Valentine? I am mixed up on this data since I have read several versions. One record says he was married to a Garlitz daughter. If I understand this correctly it means that John Custer & __ Garlitz were the parents of Emanuel Custer, born 1806, and he ( Emanuel) was the father of Gen.George A. Custer so the Garlitz daughter (name not given) would have been Gen.George A. Custer's grandmother and thus Garret Co., Md. has a big connection with the famous man. But I also have read Brown's Misc. Writings, pg.196, that states that Elizabeth Durst, daughter of Casper Durst, married to Christian Garlitz and that one of these sisters married John Custer of Cresaptown, Md. who was the grandfather Gen.George A. Custer. Now Elizabeth had only one sister, Susanna, both girls were baptized on the same day in 1789 in Somerset Co., Pa. I do not have info. on Susanna and what happened to her. I have no death date for the wife of John Custer , who died 1830, Md. and some records say that Catherine Valentine died in 1877, that is 47 years after him. Did John Custer married first to a Durst or Garlitz girl and then second to a much younger Valentine girl? Jacob Brown visited with Emanuel Custer, the father of Gen.Custer, after the terrible deaths in Emanuel's family so I think Brown would have had first hand information on this family. Now the Emanuel Custer (brother to John) who was born in 1779, died 1829 Allegany Co., Md. and had several children married to Durst children. That is my interest in the Custer family, they are not a direct line for me but I am curious about the different wives given to John Custer, mentioned above. I do not have a Custer Book that has been previously mentioned.
More about George Armstrong Custer (b. 12/5/1839, New Rumley, OH) and his connection to the Custers of Garrett County. Hoye's says, "the name Custer was originally Kuster and the grandfather of Emanuel Custer came from Germany. The grandfather was one of these same Hessian officers over whom the colonists wasted so many curses in the Revolutionary War, and who were yet so innocent of harm and such patient faithful soldiers. After Burgoyne's surrender in 1778, many of the paroled Hessians seized the opportunity to settle in the county they came to conquer, and amongst these the grandfather of Emmanuel Custer."" Custer's father Emmanuel was considered "sedate and unobtrusive." It is said that Custer's fighting blood came thru his grandmother, daughter of the Pioneer Garlitz over the Pennsylavnia line. Graduated West Point in time to take part in the first battle of the Civil War in 1861 and Bull Run, VA. He was appointed to the 7th Cavalry in 1873 and went with his regiment to Dakota territory. Killed at the battle of Little Big Horn (aka Custer's Last Stand) - June 25, 1876. Was surrounded by the Indians under Sitting Bull, Sioux Chief in the region of the Grand River of the Indian territory, now S. Dakota. _http://collections.ic.gc.ca/beaupre/promme92.htm_ (http://collections.ic.gc.ca/beaupre/promme92.htm) Custer and the 211 men with him died fighting--including four other members of the Custer family: Capt. Thomas Custer (son?), Capt. James Calhoun (brother-in-law?), Boston Custer, and Artie Reed. Per Ross Durst, John Custer (12/18/1808-4/20/1865) m. Mary Durst (3/24/1817-1/23/1862). John was a first cousin to General George A. Custer. Grandson Emanuel, lived at Mt. Nebo. Per Hoyes Pioneer Families: General George A. Custer's grandfather was John Custer, son of Emanuel I. John was born in Virginia in 1782, and died in 1830; he married a Garlitz. Henry Bittinger was born 1778--4 years older than John Custer. John Custer settled at Cresaptown about 1803. he was a blacksmith and hotel keeper. His children were: Ann (b. 1804); Emanuel Henry (b. 12/10/1806); Mary (b. 1811); George (b. 1815)--went West; James (b. 1817)--settled in WV; Alexander (b. 1819)--settled in WV and Ellen (b. 1825)--Note the date of John's children paralleled those of Henry Bittinger. Emanuel Henry Custer, learned his father's trade of blacksmith, but at the age of 19, he left Allegany County for the West. He settled in Harrison County, OH. He married twice--his second wife being Mrs. Maria (Ward) Kirkpatrick. Their children, all born in New Rumley, OH--George, Armstrong, Nevin J., Thomas W., and Margaret E. (Calhoun). In a message dated 9/8/2006 3:48:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: First allow me to say how impressed I am with the Garret Co. folks and how much interest they show and share about their ancestors. The message on George A. Custer being a second cousin of Emanuel Custer III reminded me that some time ago I did some research attempting to figure out the Custer-Durst relationship of Garrett Co. For anyone interested this is what I found on Emanuel Custer, father of George A. Custer. In 1850 he was living in Harrison Co., Ohio, age 43 yrs., born in Md., wife was Mariah, age 42, in their home was George A., 10 yrs.; Nevin, 7; Thomas, 5, and Boston, who was 1 yr.old, all the children were born in Ohio. Also in this home was David Kirkpatrick, age 26 and John Kirkpatrick, age 17 yrs. both born in Ohio. ( they were the sons of Mariah who was married first to Israel Kirkpatrick). On June 13, 1870, Monroe Co., Mich. First Ward, #354, is Emanuel Custer, age 63, born in Md. blacksmith, Mariah, 62 born in Pa. Boston is 21 yrs.old and Margaret is 17 years old, both born in Ohio. In this same home was George A. Custer, age 28 yrs.old, Capt. in U.S. Army, under his name is Elizabeth, 26 yrs.old born in Mich. and Ensura, age 11 yrs.old. ( if she is the daughter of George A. Custer he would have fathered her at the age of 17 yrs.) Then on June 1, 1880 ( after the Battle of the Little Big Horn of 1876) Emanuel Custer is listed as retired, age 73, Maria, 73 yrs., and in their home is Maggie Calhoun, age 28 yrs.old. Maggie was their daughter Margaret who was married to Lt. James Calhoun, he too lost his life. Her brother, George A. Custer died. Who was the father of the Emanuel Custer married to Rebecca Friend? Also in the Family Data on Ancestry.Com I found the following: George A. Custer was married on Feb. 9, 1864 to Elizabeth Bacon (no doubt the Elizabeth, age 26, on the 1870 census) and he married secondly to a Monaseetah on 27 Nov. 1868. Who was Monaseetha and where was she in 1870, she was not on the census? I find reference to many of the Durst-Custer families as being cousins to Gen. George A. Custer but still have not figured it all out.
Sorry, missed sending Emanuel's information. 1 Emanuel Custer I b: Abt. 1754 d: 1854 Possibly in Virginia .. +Mary Fadley ........ 2 Emanuel Custer II b: Jan 1779 Virginia d: Jun 1829 Mt. Nebo, Garrett County, Maryland ............ +Catherine Ringer b: Mar 1784 d: Bet. 1846 - 1847 Mt. Nebo, Garrett County, Maryland .................. 3 David Custer b: 06 Jun 1811 d: 27 Nov 1872 ...................... +Margaret Stark b: 1808 Ireland d: 22 Apr 1889 ............................ 4 Emanuel Custer III b: 01 Mar 1839 d: 29 Jun 1906 (married Rebecca Friend) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Thompson Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Emanuel Custer info. This is how I recorded the Custer tree for ancestors of Emanuel III (wife Rebecca Friend). It is not my direct line so corrections would be most welcome. Yes, I own a copy of "The Custer and Related Families........by Franklin D. Bishop. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 7:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Emanuel Custer info. From: [email protected] Do you have a copy of "The Custer and Related Families of Allegany and Garrett Counties, Maryland" by Franklin D. Bishop? It has 206 pages including index and 16 pages of pictures. First allow me to say how impressed I am with the Garret Co. folks and how much interest they show and share about their ancestors. The message on George A.Custer being a second cousin of Emanuel Custer III reminded me that some time ago I did some research attempting to figure out the Custer-Durst relationship of Garrett Co. For anyone interested this is what I found on Emanuel Custer, father of George A. Custer. In 1850 he was living in Harrison Co., Ohio, age 43 yrs., born in Md., wife was Mariah, age 42, in their home was George A., 10 yrs.; Nevin, 7; Thomas, 5, and Boston, who was 1 yr.old, all the children were born in Ohio. Also in this home was David Kirkpatrick, age 26 and John Kirkpatrick, age 17 yrs. both born in Ohio. ( they were the sons of Mariah who was married first to Israel Kirkpatrick). On June 13, 1870, Monroe Co., Mich. First Ward, #354, is Emanuel Custer, age 63, born in Md. blacksmith, Mariah, 62 born in Pa. Boston is 21 yrs.old and Margaret is 17 years old, both born in Ohio. In this same home was George A. Custer, age 28 yrs.old, Capt. in U.S. Army, under his name is Elizabeth, 26 yrs.old born in Mich. and Ensura, age 11 yrs.old. ( if she is the daughter of George A. Custer he would have fathered her at the age of 17 yrs.) Then on June 1, 1880 ( after the Battle of the Little Big Horn of 1876) Emanuel Custer is listed as retired, age 73, Maria, 73 yrs., and in their home is Maggie Calhoun, age 28 yrs.old. Maggie was their daughter Margaret who was married to Lt. James Calhoun, he too lost his life her brother, George A. Custer died. Who was the father of the Emanuel Custer married to Rebecca Friend? Also in the Family Data on Ancestry.Com I found the following: George A. Custer was married on Feb. 9, 1864 to Elizabeth Bacon ( no doubt the Elizabeth, age 26, on the 1870 census) and he married secondly to a Monaseetah on 27 Nov. 1868. Who was Monaseetha and where was she in 1870, she was not on the census? I find reference to many of the Durst-Custer families as being cousins to Gen. George A. Custer but still have not figured it all out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is how I recorded the Custer tree for ancestors of Emanuel III (wife Rebecca Friend). It is not my direct line so corrections would be most welcome. Yes, I own a copy of "The Custer and Related Families........by Franklin D. Bishop. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 7:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Emanuel Custer info. From: [email protected] Do you have a copy of "The Custer and Related Families of Allegany and Garrett Counties, Maryland" by Franklin D. Bishop? It has 206 pages including index and 16 pages of pictures. First allow me to say how impressed I am with the Garret Co. folks and how much interest they show and share about their ancestors. The message on George A.Custer being a second cousin of Emanuel Custer III reminded me that some time ago I did some research attempting to figure out the Custer-Durst relationship of Garrett Co. For anyone interested this is what I found on Emanuel Custer, father of George A. Custer. In 1850 he was living in Harrison Co., Ohio, age 43 yrs., born in Md., wife was Mariah, age 42, in their home was George A., 10 yrs.; Nevin, 7; Thomas, 5, and Boston, who was 1 yr.old, all the children were born in Ohio. Also in this home was David Kirkpatrick, age 26 and John Kirkpatrick, age 17 yrs. both born in Ohio. ( they were the sons of Mariah who was married first to Israel Kirkpatrick). On June 13, 1870, Monroe Co., Mich. First Ward, #354, is Emanuel Custer, age 63, born in Md. blacksmith, Mariah, 62 born in Pa. Boston is 21 yrs.old and Margaret is 17 years old, both born in Ohio. In this same home was George A. Custer, age 28 yrs.old, Capt. in U.S. Army, under his name is Elizabeth, 26 yrs.old born in Mich. and Ensura, age 11 yrs.old. ( if she is the daughter of George A. Custer he would have fathered her at the age of 17 yrs.) Then on June 1, 1880 ( after the Battle of the Little Big Horn of 1876) Emanuel Custer is listed as retired, age 73, Maria, 73 yrs., and in their home is Maggie Calhoun, age 28 yrs.old. Maggie was their daughter Margaret who was married to Lt. James Calhoun, he too lost his life her brother, George A. Custer died. Who was the father of the Emanuel Custer married to Rebecca Friend? Also in the Family Data on Ancestry.Com I found the following: George A. Custer was married on Feb. 9, 1864 to Elizabeth Bacon ( no doubt the Elizabeth, age 26, on the 1870 census) and he married secondly to a Monaseetah on 27 Nov. 1868. Who was Monaseetha and where was she in 1870, she was not on the census? I find reference to many of the Durst-Custer families as being cousins to Gen. George A. Custer but still have not figured it all out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
First allow me to say how impressed I am with the Garret Co. folks and how much interest they show and share about their ancestors. The message on George A.Custer being a second cousin of Emanuel Custer III reminded me that some time ago I did some research attempting to figure out the Custer-Durst relationship of Garrett Co. For anyone interested this is what I found on Emanuel Custer, father of George A. Custer. In 1850 he was living in Harrison Co., Ohio, age 43 yrs., born in Md., wife was Mariah, age 42, in their home was George A., 10 yrs.; Nevin, 7; Thomas, 5, and Boston, who was 1 yr.old, all the children were born in Ohio. Also in this home was David Kirkpatrick, age 26 and John Kirkpatrick, age 17 yrs. both born in Ohio. ( they were the sons of Mariah who was married first to Israel Kirkpatrick). On June 13, 1870, Monroe Co., Mich. First Ward, #354, is Emanuel Custer, age 63, born in Md. blacksmith, Mariah, 62 born in Pa. Boston is 21 yrs.old and Margaret is 17 years old, both born in Ohio. In this same home was George A. Custer, age 28 yrs.old, Capt. in U.S. Army, under his name is Elizabeth, 26 yrs.old born in Mich. and Ensura, age 11 yrs.old. ( if she is the daughter of George A. Custer he would have fathered her at the age of 17 yrs.) Then on June 1, 1880 ( after the Battle of the Little Big Horn of 1876) Emanuel Custer is listed as retired, age 73, Maria, 73 yrs., and in their home is Maggie Calhoun, age 28 yrs.old. Maggie was their daughter Margaret who was married to Lt. James Calhoun, he too lost his life her brother, George A. Custer died. Who was the father of the Emanuel Custer married to Rebecca Friend? Also in the Family Data on Ancestry.Com I found the following: George A. Custer was married on Feb. 9, 1864 to Elizabeth Bacon ( no doubt the Elizabeth, age 26, on the 1870 census) and he married secondly to a Monaseetah on 27 Nov. 1868. Who was Monaseetha and where was she in 1870, she was not on the census? I find reference to many of the Durst-Custer families as being cousins to Gen. George A. Custer but still have not figured it all out.
From: [email protected] Date: 2006/09/08 Fri PM 05:47:37 CDT To: [email protected] Subject: [MDGARRET] Emanuel Custer info. Do you have a copy of "The Custer and Related Families of Allegany and Garrett Counties, Maryland" by Franklin D. Bishop? It has 206 pages including index and 16 pages of pictures. First allow me to say how impressed I am with the Garret Co. folks and how much interest they show and share about their ancestors. The message on George A.Custer being a second cousin of Emanuel Custer III reminded me that some time ago I did some research attempting to figure out the Custer-Durst relationship of Garrett Co. For anyone interested this is what I found on Emanuel Custer, father of George A. Custer. In 1850 he was living in Harrison Co., Ohio, age 43 yrs., born in Md., wife was Mariah, age 42, in their home was George A., 10 yrs.; Nevin, 7; Thomas, 5, and Boston, who was 1 yr.old, all the children were born in Ohio. Also in this home was David Kirkpatrick, age 26 and John Kirkpatrick, age 17 yrs. both born in Ohio. ( they were the sons of Mariah who was married first to Israel Kirkpatrick). On June 13, 1870, Monroe Co., Mich. First Ward, #354, is Emanuel Custer, age 63, born in Md. blacksmith, Mariah, 62 born in Pa. Boston is 21 yrs.old and Margaret is 17 years old, both born in Ohio. In this same home was George A. Custer, age 28 yrs.old, Capt. in U.S. Army, under his name is Elizabeth, 26 yrs.old born in Mich. and Ensura, age 11 yrs.old. ( if she is the daughter of George A. Custer he would have fathered her at the age of 17 yrs.) Then on June 1, 1880 ( after the Battle of the Little Big Horn of 1876) Emanuel Custer is listed as retired, age 73, Maria, 73 yrs., and in their home is Maggie Calhoun, age 28 yrs.old. Maggie was their daughter Margaret who was married to Lt. James Calhoun, he too lost his life her brother, George A. Custer died. Who was the father of the Emanuel Custer married to Rebecca Friend? Also in the Family Data on Ancestry.Com I found the following: George A. Custer was married on Feb. 9, 1864 to Elizabeth Bacon ( no doubt the Elizabeth, age 26, on the 1870 census) and he married secondly to a Monaseetah on 27 Nov. 1868. Who was Monaseetha and where was she in 1870, she was not on the census? I find reference to many of the Durst-Custer families as being cousins to Gen. George A. Custer but still have not figured it all out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The Orphans' Court is not about orphanages; this might help (found on-line). It deals with matters of estates. Maryland's first constitution, adopted in November of 1776, authorized a Register of Wills to oversee probate in each county. The following Spring, the General Assembly formally established the Orphans' Court as the mechanism for probate administration, with the Register of Wills as the Court's Chief Clerk. Today, the Orphans' Court hears all matters involving decedents' estates which are contested and supervises all of those estates which are probated judicially. It approves accounts, awards of personal representative's commissions, and attorney's fees in all estates. The Court also has concurrent jurisdiction with the circuit court in the guardianships of minors and their property. All matters involving the validity of wills and the transfer of property in which legal questions and disputes occur are resolved by the Orphans' Court. There are three judges who sit on the Orphans' Court in Baltimore City and in each of the counties, with the exception of Harford County and Montgomery County, where circuit court judges sit as judges of the Orphans' Court. ---- As to Custer's last stand helping with genealogy, the only thing I can add is George Armstrong Custer was the 2nd cousin of Emanuel Custer III. Emanuel's wife was Rebecca Friend, d/o Jonathan and Elizabeth Kinsie Friend, of Garrett County, MD (according to my files). _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 5:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] County formation dates- Garrett's first officials Great information Patty, thanks so much. I think the dates when the counties were formed tells us some things -- a big help. I never was much on Geography and American History until I got into genealogy. I do recall a lot of references to "territories." I want to also get into Custer's last stand to see how that may have any relevance to the history connected to the Native American history we've been discussing. I especially noticed the date of the establishment of the orphan court (1873-- about 56 years after the Bittinger children were born). I'd like to know more about the history of the orphanages. I'm going to put this information right in the front of my Bittinger Book where I can put my hands on it quickly. Lois Hetrick Stewart
I found this in the Glades Star, Vol. 1, No. 34. (I have only included dates and names; not the entire article) Maryland: County formation dates. Prince George's County..organized in 1696 Frederick County..organized in 1748 Washington County..organized in 1776 Allegany County..organized in 1789 Garrett County..organized in 1872 Dec. 14, 1872, Gov. Whyte issued proclamation declaring the territory named in the enabling Act "constituted as a new county to be called Garrett County." First session of the Circuit Court in the new county was convened May 19, 1873, in the dining room of the Glades Hotel. Judges William Moffet and George A. Pearre presided. First Grand Jury: Jonas Wass, D. A. Friend, Elisha Umble, Henry Myers, Robert E. Lee, Isaac Spiker, S. J. Livengood, Adam Garringer, Christian J. Beachy, Silas Fitzwater, Frederick Englehardt, W. E. George, Charles Warnick, Charles Bill, Israel Garlitz, E. Falkenstine, J. F. Frantz, John Friend of N., Josiah Boucher, Patrick Hamill, John Frantz of Joseph, Thomas Cuppett, John C. Dunham. First Petit Jury James Poland, Norman Bernard, Wm. Sharpless, John G. Riley, P. M. Stemple, George Ruckles, J. F. Robinson, W. C. Broadwater, John Edgar, Sr., Samuel Beachy, John Tice, Nelson Irwin, Wm. B. Stanton, W. W. Ashby, Amos W. Friend, Clark DeBerry, Stephen W. Friend, Emanuel Custer, Robert Green, Joseph Mart, A. C. Hamill, George Roth, Elijah Friend of J. The Orphans Court First session held Feb. 11, 1873. Judges: D. Harrison Friend, William Harvey, Joseph DeWitt. First Courthouse built 1877.
I'm interested in the Maryland colony. Thank you for the reply, Ann >From: "Nicholas Sturm" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected], [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Melungeon >Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:48:53 -0400 > >Are you using "Melugeon" to refer to the colony in Tennessee whose member >seem to become very upset when the term is applied to any other >mixed-group, or to the Maryland colony to which the term has been applied, >or as used in one web-site where the term applies to all US mixed-groups? >The distinct will affect any attempt at a response. Thank you for >clarification. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Ann Lock <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 9/7/2006 2:07:39 PM > > Subject: [MDGARRET] Melungeon > > > > Good Afternoon List, > > > > Does anyone know of any families in this area that may be connected to > > Melugeon's? Or any area for that matter. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I was just in Garrett County a week ago. I was in an antique shop that is located near the Cassleman Inn that is in the old St. Paul's church. I always look through old pictures for ones that have names on the back and purchase them to find the families they belong to so they will be back where they belong so to say. I didn't have the time I wanted to have a good look but the lady in the shop said she had lots of post cards that had the name Enlow on them. We couldn't find them in the time I had to look but I thought I would mention it so someone who has the time and interest in those can go back to the shop. They don't cost much and most photo's are just fifty cents to a dollar that's why I do this I think a dollar or two is well spent to make someone's day. I found on this trip Dot Grace - post card photo no other info might be taken in the early 20's Tom Long - picture taken in Cumberland man may be of mixed race not sure date is earlier than the 20's I think. Please contact me if you would like these lost souls. If I receive more than one reply I will scan copies other wise I will send the original. I will wait a week and see what happens. Please reply to [email protected] with a "snail mail" address incase you are the lucky winner of the original:) I hope these folks have family out there. Carol
Ann, Maybe some of the sites below would hold some answers. Found these and many more when I "googled" Surname of Melungeon. The first site also referenced the surname of Harvey. One site is giving a free trial. Good luck with this. Lois _http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Melungeon/2002-03_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Melungeon/2002-03) _http://www.kygs.org/backissu.htm_ (http://www.kygs.org/backissu.htm) - The Kentucky Genealogical Society, Bluegrass Roots Back Issues _surname Index - ME | OneGreatFamily.com_ (http://aolsearcht.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&requestId=7878493d66ae0bc8&clickedItemRank=1&userQuery=Surname +of+Melugeon&clickedItemURN=http://www.onegreatfamily.com/Surname/indexME.htm& title=surname+Index+-+ME+|+OneGreatFamily.com&clickedItemPageRanking=1&clicked ItemPage=1) OneGreatFamily surname Index - ME ... MEDRAS · MELUGEON · MESCHENES · MEDRAT · MELUGIN · MESCHER · MEDRAZ · MELUI · MESCHEWITZ ..._http://www.onegreatfamily.com/Surname/indexME.htm_ (http://www.onegreatfamily.com/Surname/indexME.htm)
Good Afternoon List, Does anyone know of any families in this area that may be connected to Melugeon's? Or any area for that matter. Thank you. Ann
Are you using "Melugeon" to refer to the colony in Tennessee whose member seem to become very upset when the term is applied to any other mixed-group, or to the Maryland colony to which the term has been applied, or as used in one web-site where the term applies to all US mixed-groups? The distinct will affect any attempt at a response. Thank you for clarification. > [Original Message] > From: Ann Lock <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 9/7/2006 2:07:39 PM > Subject: [MDGARRET] Melungeon > > Good Afternoon List, > > Does anyone know of any families in this area that may be connected to > Melugeon's? Or any area for that matter. > > Thank you. > > Ann > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Well, back in July I was searching for the parents of Dorothy J. Dixon of Garrett County. Thanks to Betty at the Rockwood Historical Society in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, she was able to find Dorothy's obituary, which had the names of his parents. So now the search can continue for James Dixon and Mary Turney. If these names ring a bell with anyone, let me know. I'm going to start doing some research on my own and see what I find. I already found one Mary Turney that may be the one I'm looking for. Thanks to all of you that helped out earlier! James
Hi everyone, I'm personally so happy to see your posts. I've gone about as far as I thought I could go with my mother's Cherokee lineage. Every time I saw a Wilson surname show up on the Garrett site, I'd get excited but it never really provided any connections. May be some connections here -- wouldn't that be grand! Here's how my Mother's Cherokee lineage works out including surnames, dates and areas where we believed they lived. Lois Hetrick Stewart Descendants of William K Bales Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM K[elly] BALES (Spanish descent) was born Abt. 1801 in VA, and died Aft. 1880 in VA. He married MARIA [Goodman] *** full blooded Cherokee*** Abt. 1820 in VA. She was born Abt. 1801 in VA, and died Bet. 1860 ‑ 1870 in VA. Children of WILLIAM BALES and MARIA [GOODMAN] are: ENOCK G BALES, b. 1828, VA; d. January 01, 1890, Honaker, Russell Co., VA.***1/2 Cherokee*** SARAH ELIZABETH BALES, b. 1829; d. Bef. 1887, Bland Co., VA. Generation No. 2 3. ENOCK G BALES (WILLIAM K) was born 1828 in VA, and died January 01, 1890 in Honaker, Russell Co., VA. He married ELIZABETH A [WILSON] ***1/4 Cherokee*** 1851 in Bristol, Sullivan Co., TN. She was born 1831, and died Aft. 1891. [My mother always referred to her g-grandmother Elizabeth as “Elizabeth Victoria” . . . so I’m not sure about the “A” initial. She said Elizabeth had the names of two queens.] Children of ENOCK BALES and ELIZABETH [WILSON] are: i. JAMES WILLIAM5 BALES, b. 1848, VA; d. June 02, 1891, Russell Co., VA; m. REBECCA STINSON***English/N. Irish***, May 04, 1869, Russell Co., VA; b. 1847. Children: MARY ALLIS BALES (1871‑1907) Tazwell/Russel County m. JOHN GOGGIN HARWARD (1862‑1917) Bath County, VA ‑‑ my Mother LENA HARWOOD PHILPOTT HETRICK's parents. ii. SARAH J BALES, b. 1850. iii. THOMAS BALES, b. 1852, VA; m. ELIZA GRIFFIN, December 28, 1877, Russell Co., VA; b. 1859, VA. iv. CHARLES D BALES, b. 1854, VA; m. LOUISA J MILLER, July 15, 1874, Russell Co., VA; b. 1850, VA. v. MARIAH BALES, b. 1856. vi. MARY BALES, b. 1859; m. DAVID R KENDRICK, November 29, 1881, Russell Co., VA; b. 1859, Pike Co., KY. Below is a Bales researcher the found my post abut the Bales and emailed me with further information about the Bales family: Lois I know you aren't focused on the Bales right now, but would like to pick your brain to see if there is anything you might remember. I am descended through Margaret Elizabeth (Bales) Kitts, who was the sister of your Enoch Bales. While your Wilson ancestors were with Enoch on the 1870 census in Russell County, our William K Bales was with Sara Elizabeth on the 1870 census in Bland County. Then it all came together when on the 1880 Russell County census William K Bales was in the home of Enoch and Elizabeth Bales. That is where I lost track of William K Bales. Since Enoch died in 1890, there is a good chance he and William died about the same time & may be buried in the same cemetery. Do you have any idea where Enoch is buried? We have found very little on Maria (Goodman). From the 1850 & 1860 censuses and from one of their children's marriage records we know that William K Bales' wife's name was Maria. A couple of researchers (yourself included) have noted that her last name was Goodman and they were married Sep 26, 1821 in Albemarle Co ( Do you have anything to back this up, or do you have a clue where we might start to look? Would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks again, Verla ([email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ) WILSON line: WILSON, James (Northern Irish - b. Limerick, Ireland), m. ??? Son - Col. John mrd (#2) Martha (Agnes) Crouchman Son - James mrd (#2) Elizabeth Poague Son - James M. (b. 1807-1810?) mrd (abt 1830?) Catherine McCulley (b. 1808-1810? *** 1/2 Cherokee *** Dau - Elizabeth Victoria Wilson mrd (abt 1848) Enoch G. Bales (b. 1829-31?) ***1/4 Cherokee*** -- She was a Cherokee Herb Woman (tribal doctor). James (63) and Catherine (62) were living with Enoch & Elizabeth in the 1870 Russell County, VA census. BALES, William Kelly (b. abt 1800) mrd (abt 1820?) Mariah (Moriah) Goodman (she was full blood Cherokee) Son - Enoch G. (b. 1829-31?, 1/2 Cherokee) mrd (abt 1848) Elizabeth Wilson (1/4 Cherokee) Son - William James (b. 1849?, ?% Cherokee), living with Wm & Ann Jobe in Frederick County, MD in the 1850 census. Married (1869) Rebecca Stinson (b. 1847, English/Irish, Giles County, VA) Dau - Mary Allis "Alice" (1871-1907, ? % Cherokee?) from Tazwell/Russell County, VA mrd (1893, Mercer County, WV) John G. Harwood (1862-1917) from Bath Co., VA Dau - Lena - (1905-1976, ? % Cherokee?) mrd 1st Tony Philpott (English); mrd 2nd Ernest Elwood Hetrick (1902-1976, German Dutch) -- my parents.
Hello folks, I hope I'm not too late to get in on the topic of Indian heritage that has been discussed while I was on vacation. I read each with interest and you don't know how grateful I was that it has surfaced. It was addressed without negativity or bias towards periods of our past history that could bring up heated discussions and opened what I hope may lead to the piecing together of some of our families history. I started a new post as it would be messy trying to reply to the old ones. Please pardon my attempt at trying to jump in and the best way I could think of was to take a few quotes with authors names from just a few that got me to thinking. All were excellent by-the-way and backed up with interesting sites for further reading and better understanding of the subject topics. I will start with why I'm pleased to take part in this discussion. I come from the Crowe/Winebrenner families of present day Garrett County. The Crowe's arrived before the Revolution and the best I can figured out so far is that Morris Winebrenner Sr. who many think is the patriarch of most of the Winebrenners in both counties may have arrived at that time also. Those with an interest in these lines may contact me personally as I don't want to get off the subject to far. To cut to the chase there is I believe Indian blood in both families from Jacob Crow/Crowe and Margaret Winebrenner down. Why do I think this? My father told us kids when we were adults. Why did he wait so long? I think it was well put in the comment from Todd; One has to remember that until recently anyone who was less than white was considered a non person and so the Descendents of the original east coast Indians married into white families and assimilated to rise in social class and acceptance. I believe that about 90% of the old families which reach back to the 18th century have Indian blood. Not all of the tribes moved west or died out but many married into white families. They often took very common English names so you can't trace them by the names and the fact that they were Indian or half-breed was covered up. There was even a movement to call people with darker skin a free person of color and with that deny them the right to vote. This is the untold story of a large population of the Appalachian Mountain people. Todd Dad's comment was "it was something you didn't want known about your family tree". Dad was born in 1921. You may read for yourself about the Eugenic Law movements. This site is just one example. http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/html/eugenics/essay7text.html Before I continue I would like to say I am not a historian or some super sleuth and my approach may be awkward. I'm not trying push my opinions on anyone and that I truly hope I don't come off offensive. I was excited to see on the previous posts people putting their heads together trying to piece together a "family legion" rather than brush it off. Could not a legion become a legacy if investigated by people sharing information and ideas? I am not replying to anyone in particular below from this list. I have been asked all these questions in the past 3 years trying to get a better understanding of my complete family history. I was discouraged at first but not anymore. Some may think I'm what I have seen termed as a "Wanabe" well I guess in a way I am. I "Wanabe" able to tell my grandchildren who they came from to the best of my knowledge. Family legion or hear say, well sure both and a picture of my grandfather. Yes he had dark skin but he was a miner not a farmer. Can I provide something in writing... no just notes from other cousins about the legion but no one knew where it came from. will I ever have written proof? Most likely not unless I can prove we hail from one of the few who made history. I hardly think so. We are part of what I think of as the "invisible people" those who intermarried with mainly German families of emigrants ( my line) and later it became necessary to lay low. My ancestors were of the few Algonquin or possibly Ojibwa ( known as Chippewa in the U.S) who remained with the Shawnee and did an excellent job of blending in and not getting mentioned in writing as far as I have found (not to say they aren't mentioned somewhere) in the histories of the area that I have read. Where did I get a tribe name from? Lots and lots of correspondence and tracking down other cousins for clues and then going out and meeting folks. I was not looking for anyone who would have been on an Indian Roll as I doubt they were looking in the back woods of Western Maryland for families to relocate. By then the family would have been mixed and claiming white on the census anyway . My dad said our ancestor was Algonquin and a cousin says her grandmother said Ojibwa, both were Algonquin speaking as were the Shawnee who I found were the most referred to people of the area so far. Western Maryland was used as a hunting ground for different tribes I guess they could come that way on one of the many trails that weave down from up north and Canada where both Algonquin and Ojibwa/Chippewa were indigenous to. I found this in a history of Pennsylvania; "In the latter part of the 18th century there were temporary villages of Wyandots, Chippewas, Missisaugas, and Ottawas in western Pennsylvania." I found it encouraging to see Chippewas mentioned. A few months ago I put an inquiry on this board asking about Little Brown Lake. I was looking for anyone who may know about some of the family history of this area. I had a feeling it was important. I received some wonderful maps and directions on how to find it, thank you. The property that was once owned by some of the Crowe family and Morris Winebrenner's land in Midlothian were separated by this lake. Both families married back and forth a lot. A Crowe cousin told me her father mentioned seeing Indians near the lake when he was a child of about 10. This would be about 1928. How come these folks were never mentioned? The last issue of the Allegany magazine says the Indians were pretty much gone when either Will or George died. Sorry I don't have my copy to look up which chief that was. But basically accounts say the Shawnee were the last to leave a very long time ago. I just returned from 8 days in Western Maryland. My husband and I were treated to a guided tour by my cousin from the John Crowe and Emily Warnick line. We drove from the Crowe cemetery located above Little Brown Lake which is on his property up to a place called "Highway to Heaven" back down to the Savage River Dam and past that Broadwater Chapel too. Hope I didn't get those directions mixed up, it was an awesome afternoon. It would have taken us many trips to have found all these cool places without him. All the while he pointed out where families lived and told some great stories. I was able to confirm from him that Indians were back by the lake . On their old family homestead that was owned by his father Edward Loar Crowe there is an area they called the chopping block . It was a stone in the ground used to sharpen tools and I guess make arrow heads. He said after a heavy rain they would find lots of arrow heads sticking up out of the mud near this place they called the chopping block. His sister who is 94 told me the names of the two tribes she knew of that later left for Pennsylvania...Shawnee and Algonquin ! I guess you might say I still can't provide any "concrete" proof about the legion of the full blood Algonquin Grandmother dad mentioned but I have my eye on one of the wives of Morris Winebrenner. I have been watching this interesting discussion on native American ancestry and thought I'd mention that if descendants of the native American person in question are living, some pretty advanced DNA testing is available that will show the percentage of probability of an "Indian" connection. Although the cost can be pricey it would certainly lay to rest some of the speculation. Best regards...Eileen I tried this 3 years ago. I called the lab and was told I needed someone to test from the direct line of females if I thought the Indian blood came from a grandmother. I couldn't test as I was from the male Crowe side. I got the cousin but what I wasn't told at that time was that the test I paid for was not going to provided me with any Indian heritage. I guess I needed the super duper job. You know what, I could careless if I do it over now. A piece of paper could not replace the excitement of the quest I have been on now. Go with the legions and see where they take you. You may just find yourself on another kind of Highway to Heaven. Carol
In a message dated 9/6/2006 1:35:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Nickole, I work i n the Friend Library in Friendsville. What branch of Friends do you descend from. Shirley Drent John Jr. and Elizabeth Ward Elijah Friend and Elizabeth Smith Joseph Harrison Friend and Florence Fern Friend Ormy Reuben Friend and Mary Etta Teets Floyd Friend and Regina McDonald Roy Friend (My Dad) Nickole Friend (ME!!) Nickole Friend Baldwin
Posted on the Garrett County web site: "CASPER DURST - Capt.Daniel Cresap's Company, Washington County, Md. Born 1732, died 1823. Moved to Maryland before 1790, around the New Germany area. Ross C. Durst and Mrs. Margaret Cupler proved his service and joined D.A.R. and S.A.R. on him in 1971. Buried in the Old Salisbury, Pennsylvania Cemetery." Have you checked with the Garret Co. Historical Society? 301-334-3226 They might be able to put you in touch with Randall Kahl who has done a lot of work recording information for Garrett County's veterans. They might also have information from Ross Durst's work. Pat (Friend) Thompson www.friendfamilyassociation.org -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Just a small correction John "Lightfoot" Durst died in 1840 ( the previous message had 1812) he served in the War Of 1812. He is buried ( not a private cemetery) in the Old Hill Cemetery in Salisbury, Somerset Co., Pa. His father, Casper Durst, Rev.War Soldier , is also buried there with a field stone marking his grave site as C X D, 1839. If anyone is interested I am attempting to verify his Rev.War service to have a marker placed on his grave. I need any Rev.War documentation that the D.A.R. may have accepted. There is a marker on the grave site of John Lightfoot Durst that was erected in the 1960's honoring his military service. ==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected]
Nickole, I work i n the Friend Library in Friendsville. What branch of Friends do you descend from. Shirley Drent -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] The Henry Bittinger Study > >I actually lived in Canton. A few blocks from the main library. The ladies >in the genealogy dept there are awesome!!!! I could NEVER have gotten this far >without them. They were invaluable and taught me a lot. > >I now live in Seville Oh and there is a Friendsville Road here too. I'd love >to find out WHy its named that. > >Nickole Friend Baldwin > >In a message dated 9/5/2006 9:53:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >We found a lot of information in the Canton Ohio library on Virginia and >West Virginia. We found that there are alot of people in the Stark and Summit >Co. area with WV and MD roots. We did eventually go visit in the mountains of >WV VA and MD and got a lot of information there. We even found a book about >the Schoenbrun and Gnadenhutten Ohio Indian settlements located in Warm >Springs VA. Who would of thought that we would find a book from home there. :-) > >"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: >Nickole: > >Sometimes you can do genealogy of our mountain people almost as well in >Akron as in the mountains - as I did in Mogadore. I was surprised how >many Prestonians lived within a couple of blocks. > > > > > > >==== MDGARRET Mailing List ==== >Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by iceweb.net, and is >believed to be clean. > >