There is an LDS (Mormon) Church on John Drive in Oakland, of which I am a member. However, there is no Family History Center there. The closest family history centers to Garrett County are in at the LDS chapel in Allegany County on Long Drive in LaVale. There is also one in Morgantown. I will gladly provide the names and phone numbers of the family history consultants. Please contact me off-list at [email protected] I lived in Utah for ten years and researched both at the Family History Library at Brigham Young University and the collection in Salt Lake. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In a message dated 12/16/2006 7:01:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > think you can do anything there you can do > in Salt Lake, and save yourself the trip. > The facts are these. There are thousands of books that are not available by ordering microfilm and that would be the advantage of going to Salt Lake. They are not available in the family history centers and have not been microfilmed.

Hi Lois: I've never been to Salt Lake City, but I think you'll find better things to spend your time on than Ancestry.com's web site. I have used their facilites over the years, and if you have a Morman church near you, I would go there first and get a better idea of what you want to do when you get to Salt Lake City. In fact, I think you can do anything there you can do in Salt Lake, and save yourself the trip. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com > > In a message dated 12/14/2006 6:12:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I do not know if there is a Morman church in Garrett County, but at my > location I can go to the local church and access Ancestry at any time. It > is always > available on their computers at no charge to anyone. > > > > That's really good to know as I'm headed for Salt Lake City in or about June > ;o) > > I'm going to test their system with my Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold Hetrick > from Bavaria. She had a sister Margarethe Eisner that I know about and that was > it. I will take Conrad and Nancy's org chart with me with the "Naming Order" > -- I can't account for the names Elizabeth M. (oldest daughter), Frederick > (2nd son), Margaret (3rd daughter, perhaps named after Margarethe), Rosa (4th > daughter), or Adam (5th son). Should be interesting. > > Lois > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Connie: I belonged to and supported rootsweb several years before Ancestry.com bought them out. In the early years they were strictly a volunteer organization who put in a lot of long cold hours and their own money to allow folks like us with an interest in genealogy to communicate with each other. I had a bad feeling in my gut when they were forced to "partner" with Ancestry.com because they could no longer afford to buy new servers, etc. to keep up with the demand. I still have that feeling. I use Ancestry.com almost entirely for U. S. census data. I have found WW I & II Draft Registration card images to be useful If trying to place a male at a certain place and time, because even if they weren't called into service they still had to register for the draft. Beyond those two categories, I've found little of use on Ancestry.com over the several years I've been a member. Family trees placed on their website are pretty useless. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "cbeachy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com > Good for you, Sam, but remember that Ancestry now owns Rootsweb. > Connie > >> >> For my own part, I'm willing to share what I've found with anyone who > cares to exchange information, but I have no intention of donating it to > Ancestry.com for commercial purposes. >> >> Sam > > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Charles: The links below don't work for me. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Harvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com > www.gale.ancestry.com/ > Important notice regarding this site. Ancestry Plus was a specialized > genealogy site from Ancestry.com designed specifically for libraries and > other *...* > *www*.*gale*.*ancestry*.*com*/ > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=722&q=related:www.gale.ancestry.com/> > > [email protected] wrote: >> >> In a message dated 12/14/2006 6:12:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I do not know if there is a Morman church in Garrett County, but at my >> location I can go to the local church and access Ancestry at any time. It >> is always >> available on their computers at no charge to anyone. >> >> >> >> That's really good to know as I'm headed for Salt Lake City in or about June >> ;o) >> >> I'm going to test their system with my Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold Hetrick >> from Bavaria. She had a sister Margarethe Eisner that I know about and that was >> it. I will take Conrad and Nancy's org chart with me with the "Naming Order" >> -- I can't account for the names Elizabeth M. (oldest daughter), Frederick >> (2nd son), Margaret (3rd daughter, perhaps named after Margarethe), Rosa (4th >> daughter), or Adam (5th son). Should be interesting. >> >> Lois >> ====================================== >> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >> ------------------------------------ >> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lois: I have a three volume set of Straussburger & Hinke's "Pennsylvania German Pioneers". Ship's passenger lists prior to 1808 if somene needs a lookup. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com > > > I've seen books with the information -- The original ship records I've seen > were virtually unreadable and in German, so would be worth it to have the > books or ask for a lookup on the MDGarret site I think. > > Lois > > > In a message dated 12/14/2006 2:32:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > A while back you could access the ships passenger lists on Rootsweb but now > you must be a member of Ancestry to do so. As far as I remember all the > lists > were compiled by volunteers. > > Bob > > > > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello "Genie": What's the meaning of this line:: > Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> It looks to me like you have information about me and my computer that you didn't get from this mailing list and should not have as a list member. You don't represent Ancestry.com, I suppose? By the way, I _have been bombarded with spam the past few weeks. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "GENIE RAGAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry contact info > Sam, > In regard to your question about "why would I want to contact this person if I didn't want him to know who I was is > beyond me.". I have an answer for you. > You may want to have the person know who you are, BUT do not want to be on their personal email list so that you start > getting jokes etc. from them. It may be you only want to have contact with them regarding the submitted information. > Also, much to my dismay, I found that "Spammers" take email addys from places like forums etc. and then you are on the > Spammers list, and boy will you be sorry. > You can always contact the person, add your name and email addy to the message if you want them to have it, and not > worry about others getting the email address and name. This, I have found, works very well. > Though this may not alter your opinion of Ancestry. com, I hope it helps you in understanding the contact practice. > > > Genie > Editor by Default > www.OurBrickWalls.com<http://www.ourbrickwalls.com/> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:21:54 -0500 > From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think there was some discussion a while back regarding Ancestry.com which I no longer have in my mailbox. > > Someone had posted a message I think regarding information they'd found in a family tree submitted to Ancestry by a > "Roberds" or something similar. > > I think I stumbled on the same submission last evening. What I found was information I know to be erroneous. There was > a box to contact the submitter. I clicked on the box and a prewritten email came up that said in replying to the > submitter, I could be assured that my identity would not be revealed. Now why would I want to contact this person if I > didn't want him to know who I was is beyond me. > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sam, In regard to your question about "why would I want to contact this person if I didn't want him to know who I was is beyond me.". I have an answer for you. You may want to have the person know who you are, BUT do not want to be on their personal email list so that you start getting jokes etc. from them. It may be you only want to have contact with them regarding the submitted information. Also, much to my dismay, I found that "Spammers" take email addys from places like forums etc. and then you are on the Spammers list, and boy will you be sorry. You can always contact the person, add your name and email addy to the message if you want them to have it, and not worry about others getting the email address and name. This, I have found, works very well. Though this may not alter your opinion of Ancestry. com, I hope it helps you in understanding the contact practice. Genie Editor by Default www.OurBrickWalls.com<http://www.ourbrickwalls.com/> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:21:54 -0500 From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think there was some discussion a while back regarding Ancestry.com which I no longer have in my mailbox. Someone had posted a message I think regarding information they'd found in a family tree submitted to Ancestry by a "Roberds" or something similar. I think I stumbled on the same submission last evening. What I found was information I know to be erroneous. There was a box to contact the submitter. I clicked on the box and a prewritten email came up that said in replying to the submitter, I could be assured that my identity would not be revealed. Now why would I want to contact this person if I didn't want him to know who I was is beyond me.

If you look up in the dictionary you will find a definition of a "dog" A dog is a device which is used to block or hold something. A dogger is the man that attaches and removes or loosens a dog. In this instance a dogger on a carriage is on a sawmill that uses a circular saw to cut slaps or boards from a log. The log is dogged to carriage which runs back and forth to cut the boards from a log. Once the log is cut and the carriage returns the log must be loosened so it can be turned 90% to make the next cut. The dog is then replaced to hold the log for the next cut, thus the man or men depending on the size of the log is called a dogger turning the log on the carriage. On small logs the log may not be turned but just made tight to the carriage for the next cut. That is what a dogger on a carriage did.

www.gale.ancestry.com/ Important notice regarding this site. Ancestry Plus was a specialized genealogy site from Ancestry.com designed specifically for libraries and other *...* *www*.*gale*.*ancestry*.*com*/ <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=722&q=related:www.gale.ancestry.com/> [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 12/14/2006 6:12:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I do not know if there is a Morman church in Garrett County, but at my > location I can go to the local church and access Ancestry at any time. It > is always > available on their computers at no charge to anyone. > > > > That's really good to know as I'm headed for Salt Lake City in or about June > ;o) > > I'm going to test their system with my Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold Hetrick > from Bavaria. She had a sister Margarethe Eisner that I know about and that was > it. I will take Conrad and Nancy's org chart with me with the "Naming Order" > -- I can't account for the names Elizabeth M. (oldest daughter), Frederick > (2nd son), Margaret (3rd daughter, perhaps named after Margarethe), Rosa (4th > daughter), or Adam (5th son). Should be interesting. > > Lois > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

In a message dated 12/14/2006 6:12:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do not know if there is a Morman church in Garrett County, but at my location I can go to the local church and access Ancestry at any time. It is always available on their computers at no charge to anyone. That's really good to know as I'm headed for Salt Lake City in or about June ;o) I'm going to test their system with my Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold Hetrick from Bavaria. She had a sister Margarethe Eisner that I know about and that was it. I will take Conrad and Nancy's org chart with me with the "Naming Order" -- I can't account for the names Elizabeth M. (oldest daughter), Frederick (2nd son), Margaret (3rd daughter, perhaps named after Margarethe), Rosa (4th daughter), or Adam (5th son). Should be interesting. Lois

I do not know if there is a Morman church in Garrett County, but at my location I can go to the local church and access Ancestry at any time. It is always available on their computers at no charge to anyone.

In a message dated 12/14/2006 5:41:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I quit using Ancestry a long time ago. I joined Ancestry but everytime I wanted to look something up I would have had to pay more money to get the infomation. I don't even go there any more. Harriet Yes, I've experienced that too . . . seems that most of the ancestors I was looking for were in the World Family Tree.

I quit using Ancestry a long time ago. I joined Ancestry but everytime I wanted to look something up I would have had to pay more money to get the infomation. I don't even go there any more. Harriet

I've seen books with the information -- The original ship records I've seen were virtually unreadable and in German, so would be worth it to have the books or ask for a lookup on the MDGarret site I think. Lois In a message dated 12/14/2006 2:32:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: A while back you could access the ships passenger lists on Rootsweb but now you must be a member of Ancestry to do so. As far as I remember all the lists were compiled by volunteers. Bob

A while back you could access the ships passenger lists on Rootsweb but now you must be a member of Ancestry to do so. As far as I remember all the lists were compiled by volunteers. Bob

Good for you, Sam, but remember that Ancestry now owns Rootsweb. Connie > > For my own part, I'm willing to share what I've found with anyone who cares to exchange information, but I have no intention of donating it to Ancestry.com for commercial purposes. > > Sam

Lawrence Upole b. 1894-95 has finally been found (thanks to a researcher in Charles Co., MD). WWI draft card states he was working as a "doger on carriage" at a saw mill in Jenningston, WV. Can anyone tell me what a doger on carriage might have been? Pat (Friend) Thompson www.friendfamilyassociation.org

I think there was some discussion a while back regarding Ancestry.com which I no longer have in my mailbox. Someone had posted a message I think regarding information they'd found in a family tree submitted to Ancestry by a "Roberds" or something similar. I think I stumbled on the same submission last evening. What I found was information I know to be erroneous. There was a box to contact the submitter. I clicked on the box and a prewritten email came up that said in replying to the submitter, I could be assured that my identity would not be revealed. Now why would I want to contact this person if I didn't want him to know who I was is beyond me. Anyway....I added my name and email address to the message and sent it. I quickly got a message back that I'd performed an illegal act (presumably by adding my email address) which would be registered on their server. "Roberds" or whatever the name is; is a phony identity assigned to the submitter by Ancestry.com for some reason beyond my understanding. Apparently they don't want people exchanging information freely. My impression is that when you submit data to them, it becomes _their data; not yours. Has anyone else come to that conclusion? What aggravates me about this is that I know what this "Roberds" source was for this particular part of his submission; and what that source was, was an inquiry to the Bowser rootsweb list 6 years ago asking for information regarding a Bowser family. The inquiry contained erroneous information, which is now part of "Roberds" submission. And of course the person's email address who made the original inquiry 6 years ago is no longer valid. For my own part, I'm willing to share what I've found with anyone who cares to exchange information, but I have no intention of donating it to Ancestry.com for commercial purposes. Sam

I am taking a back door into my mom's family with hopes of knocking down a brick wall or two. George LITTLE son of David LITTLE and Elizabeth Jamison MARTIN, married Mary Ann (Molly) PFIEFFER on 7 March 1886 in Garrett Co. Their offspring were Marie, Helen, Alice, Clara, John and Christine. Alice married Asa TURNEY and Clara married ? WELLING. Alice, Marie and Clara lived next to each other on East Oak St. during the 1950's - 70's (and probably earlier). Alice and Marie lived together in what I believe to be the family home. Kitty-corner across Oak and 7th streets on the NW side, one of Clara's children lived - a daughter who married ? SNYDER. A WELLING son lived in eastern MD during the 1970's. Sure hope that I can find any cousins through this information or some leads to further information about the LITTLE, MARTIN and TURNEY families. thanks! Beth in NC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com