Lavinia, Thanks so much for the information. I'm going to try to focus and just pursue that record out of the church in Germany. If I can find that, it will give me Nancy Hetrick's parents and I can go from there. So much info there I'm sure. Not my original plan to go to the library and do research, but how can I not at least do this one thing. Lois Hetrick Stewart

One thing I found that doesn't work well at the Family History Centers is researching property transfers. That's one thing that works best at the County Court house if you possibly can. That's because one deed book will refer you to another then another then another; and each deed book will be on a different microfilm. From today back to 1800??? you may have to go through a dozen or more than a dozen deed books (or microfilms). However the indexes are usually available on film, and if you can find the person or deed you are looking for in an index, you can order that one film for that one record. Generally, though, if possible, I think the courthouse is a better bet for land records. Another thing that happens is that a piece of property may have been bequeathed in a Will, in which case then you have to go look up the will, (usually just around the corner or across the hall); which will refer to a land record, then go back to land records office to continue. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lavinia Grace Schwarz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] LDS Church > Hi all, > > While this discussion has been going on, I've been in Salt Lake -- for > 10 days actually -- and now I'm home at last. > A fellow researcher and I go once a year. > The library is so rich with microfilm of primary documents that we'll > never run out of projects. > December is a great time to go -- Temple Square is decorated with a > zillion lights, and the library is relatively empty. > Apparently most groups go in May or October so those are times to avoid. > > Lois's strategy of looking for something very specific is excellent. > What's really wonderful is when you find that very specific thing is > that you can interpret it, then immediately > move on to your next task with the likelihood that another court case, > deed, tax or church record will be right there to look at. > > This trip I spent a few days looking through old church records in > Warwickshire and Lincolnshire, England. > I immersed myself in the films of original parish records and the > original Bishop's transcripts. > I found signatures of ancestors written in the early 1700's, and X's > marked by those who couldn't write. > I was also writing up a recent trip I took to those places with some > distant English cousins, and I found > maps to flesh out my write up, plus local histories written at that time > full of information about home life. > All this right there in the library. > I was actually kind of shocked to find a book printed in 1729 with > beautiful etchings in it just sitting there on the shelf. > And they let you xerox from any book. > > There are many, many county and city histories. > There are privately bound books of research done by individuals or small > genealogy societies > that you won't find elsewhere. > It's a wonderful place to spend a week. > > Even though I've gone to the FHL now quite a few times, I still have > some problems > using their computerized card catalogue. > When you're researching court documents, it's pretty easy to use. > But there are so very many histories, and obscure documents that I have > difficulty > finding without already knowing the author or title, that I know I'm > missing a lot of good > material. For instance, I'm still trying to find the original patents > for Garrett county -- > I'm sure they have them, but I just can't find how they're indexed. > And they have Casper Stoever's diary on film-- easy to find -- but only > after many > steps did I find the church records kept by Rev. John L. Grant of > Philadelphia in the mid 1800's > which had my gggrandparents marriage record. > To use the library effectively you really have to dig in and do research > -- not data mining. > > Still, the library is a gold mine. > I spent one lovely morning just reading through Allegany county liber A > chronologically. > So many ancestors there then. > > The IGI and the ancestral files are filled with errors, but are often > useful as clues. > I look forward to being able to urge corrections to those. > Oh yes, and xeroxes are only a nickel a page. > > I wish a trip to Salt Lake on all of you! > > Merry Christmas to all! > > Lavinia Schwarz > > [email protected] wrote: >> >> When I go to SLC I just have one page to find and that would be the German >> record of Zeilbach of their citizens who applied to immigrate after 1846--page >> 2 ended with my 2nd great-grandparents. I will take what I have with me. I'm >> hoping to find when the rest of my great-grandfather Conrad Hetrick and his >> wife Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold applied to emigrate. It would have had to >> have happened after 1854 but before 1861 as their first born (Charles Conrad) >> was born in 1860 in MD. The record gives the parents' names of those >> emigrating. Would be a wonderful find . . . then maybe from there I can find the rest >> of Nancy's family from Bavaria. I presently only have the name of her sister >> Margarethe Eisner and her daughter Johanna (looks like a combination of Johann >> and Anna) Hmmmm. >> >> Lois Hetrick Stewart >> >> In a message dated 12/18/2006 2:02:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Using LDS facilities, I have found old European church records of births, >> marriages, and deaths. This info would have been difficult to discover by >> any other means of which I am aware. On a trip to Germany, I took the time >> to search out and view for myself one set of church records I had seen >> copied by LDS. The LDS records faithfully copied the original. >> >> Walt >> >> >> >> >> >> ====================================== >> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >> ------------------------------------ >> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lois: I think if you go to the LDS web site you'll find their catalog of microfilmed records on line, or it used to be. You may be able to find the film in their catalog, go to a local Family History Center (if you have one near you), place an order for the film for maybe $4, and view it there at the Family History Center. Easier yet, just go there and ask a volunteer to check the catalog for you. Most of their film readers have printers attached, so you can get a hardcopy. When it comes to films of the nature you're talking about, be prepared to (possibly) spend several hours looking for what you are interested in. Typically, one film can hold records from several different churches, all of it in the old German script, so sometimes it can take a while. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] LDS Church > > When I go to SLC I just have one page to find and that would be the German > record of Zeilbach of their citizens who applied to immigrate after 1846--page > 2 ended with my 2nd great-grandparents. I will take what I have with me. I'm > hoping to find when the rest of my great-grandfather Conrad Hetrick and his > wife Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold applied to emigrate. It would have had to > have happened after 1854 but before 1861 as their first born (Charles Conrad) > was born in 1860 in MD. The record gives the parents' names of those > emigrating. Would be a wonderful find . . . then maybe from there I can find the rest > of Nancy's family from Bavaria. I presently only have the name of her sister > Margarethe Eisner and her daughter Johanna (looks like a combination of Johann > and Anna) Hmmmm. > > Lois Hetrick Stewart > > In a message dated 12/18/2006 2:02:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Using LDS facilities, I have found old European church records of births, > marriages, and deaths. This info would have been difficult to discover by > any other means of which I am aware. On a trip to Germany, I took the time > to search out and view for myself one set of church records I had seen > copied by LDS. The LDS records faithfully copied the original. > > Walt > > > > > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, While this discussion has been going on, I've been in Salt Lake -- for 10 days actually -- and now I'm home at last. A fellow researcher and I go once a year. The library is so rich with microfilm of primary documents that we'll never run out of projects. December is a great time to go -- Temple Square is decorated with a zillion lights, and the library is relatively empty. Apparently most groups go in May or October so those are times to avoid. Lois's strategy of looking for something very specific is excellent. What's really wonderful is when you find that very specific thing is that you can interpret it, then immediately move on to your next task with the likelihood that another court case, deed, tax or church record will be right there to look at. This trip I spent a few days looking through old church records in Warwickshire and Lincolnshire, England. I immersed myself in the films of original parish records and the original Bishop's transcripts. I found signatures of ancestors written in the early 1700's, and X's marked by those who couldn't write. I was also writing up a recent trip I took to those places with some distant English cousins, and I found maps to flesh out my write up, plus local histories written at that time full of information about home life. All this right there in the library. I was actually kind of shocked to find a book printed in 1729 with beautiful etchings in it just sitting there on the shelf. And they let you xerox from any book. There are many, many county and city histories. There are privately bound books of research done by individuals or small genealogy societies that you won't find elsewhere. It's a wonderful place to spend a week. Even though I've gone to the FHL now quite a few times, I still have some problems using their computerized card catalogue. When you're researching court documents, it's pretty easy to use. But there are so very many histories, and obscure documents that I have difficulty finding without already knowing the author or title, that I know I'm missing a lot of good material. For instance, I'm still trying to find the original patents for Garrett county -- I'm sure they have them, but I just can't find how they're indexed. And they have Casper Stoever's diary on film-- easy to find -- but only after many steps did I find the church records kept by Rev. John L. Grant of Philadelphia in the mid 1800's which had my gggrandparents marriage record. To use the library effectively you really have to dig in and do research -- not data mining. Still, the library is a gold mine. I spent one lovely morning just reading through Allegany county liber A chronologically. So many ancestors there then. The IGI and the ancestral files are filled with errors, but are often useful as clues. I look forward to being able to urge corrections to those. Oh yes, and xeroxes are only a nickel a page. I wish a trip to Salt Lake on all of you! Merry Christmas to all! Lavinia Schwarz [email protected] wrote: > > When I go to SLC I just have one page to find and that would be the German > record of Zeilbach of their citizens who applied to immigrate after 1846--page > 2 ended with my 2nd great-grandparents. I will take what I have with me. I'm > hoping to find when the rest of my great-grandfather Conrad Hetrick and his > wife Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold applied to emigrate. It would have had to > have happened after 1854 but before 1861 as their first born (Charles Conrad) > was born in 1860 in MD. The record gives the parents' names of those > emigrating. Would be a wonderful find . . . then maybe from there I can find the rest > of Nancy's family from Bavaria. I presently only have the name of her sister > Margarethe Eisner and her daughter Johanna (looks like a combination of Johann > and Anna) Hmmmm. > > Lois Hetrick Stewart > > In a message dated 12/18/2006 2:02:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Using LDS facilities, I have found old European church records of births, > marriages, and deaths. This info would have been difficult to discover by > any other means of which I am aware. On a trip to Germany, I took the time > to search out and view for myself one set of church records I had seen > copied by LDS. The LDS records faithfully copied the original. > > Walt > > > > > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

What you say applies to any family trees you find on the internet, whether it's LDS, rootsweb, or whatever. There are a lot of people out there who "datamine"; don't do any actual research, just gather whatever they can find from others on the internet and call the result their own creation. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe & Erin Hartman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] LDS Church > I've been reading these posts about the LDS curch and trips to Salt Lake > City, and I have two cousins that are Mormons and live in that area. > > A bit of a warning here: I hope you all realize that they do not verify > any of the info in their database. I've checked some of the data that > they have on my ancestors, and they are dead wrong on portions of it. > Keep in mind that they accept info from just about anyone, knowledgeable > family source or not, so if "Great-Uncle Bill" was a horse thief and the > older family members tried to cover it up, Uncle Bill might not be in > the database. Or if a female family member gave birth to a child out of > wedlock, the older submitters many times changed birth or marriage dates > to make it seem legitimate before submitting to the LDS database. > > My cousins quite often send messages to me asking if I have any info on > certain members of the family. Their religious zeal to get every > possible person into their database often times takes precedent over > accuracy. > > Joe Hartman > > ========================= > > Erin White wrote: > >>There is an LDS (Mormon) Church on John Drive in Oakland, of which I am a member. However, there is no Family History >>Center there. The closest family history centers to Garrett County are in at the LDS chapel in Allegany County on Long >>Drive in LaVale. There is also one in Morgantown. I will gladly provide the names and phone numbers of the family >>history consultants. Please contact me off-list at [email protected] I lived in Utah for ten years and >>researched both at the Family History Library at Brigham Young University and the collection in Salt Lake. >> __________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >>====================================== >>Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>------------------------------------ >>If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It might be helpful to know approximately when your ancestors emigrated. (1700's, 1800's) and their known or suspected nationality. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Mammoliti" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] passenger list look ups - for Phyllis > Phillis, > > I didn't find anything for Newmeyer- Newmire or any variations that I could > think of. > > Wendy > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Betty: Thanks for reminding me about those families. I had read about them in the Bittinger book but couldn't recall what families were involved. I remember thinking it was interesting that the folks in Garrett County were so intolerant when it came to the Mormons. Some family members were "disowned" when they joined the LDS & went west. Makes you think about the days of the Reformation when the Catholic church split. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: [MDGARRET] LDS in Garret >A group of Mormon missionaries hit Garret Co not long after the church was formed. An excellent account in The >Bittinger Book tells of families - 4 or 5 - who converted and headed west to spread the faith. One was a >Speicher-Fiek couple. I was in contact for a time and received 104 pp. of hard copy and shared some of my info. A >real treat! > Bettie Speicher Weyler > > -----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>Sent: Dec 17, 2006 12:43 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: MDGARRET Digest, Vol 1, Issue 59 >> >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Ancestry contact info (Sam Bowser) >> 2. Re: Ancestry.com (Sam Bowser) >> 3. Re: Ancestry.com (Sam Bowser) >> 4. Re: Ancestry.com (Sam Bowser) >> 5. Re: Ancestry.com (Sam Bowser) >> 6. Re: Ancestry.com ([email protected]) >> 7. Re: Ancestry.com ([email protected]) >> 8. Re: Ancestry.com ([email protected]) >> 9. LDS Church (Erin White) >> 10. Re: Ancestry.com ([email protected]) >> 11. Re: Ancestry.com (Virginia Kelly) >> 12. research ([email protected]) >> 13. passenger list look ups (Wendy Mammoliti) >> 14. Re: passenger list look ups (Lee Fasnacht) >> 15. Re: Ancestry.com (Sam Bowser) >> 16. Re: passenger list look ups - Lee's request (Wendy Mammoliti) >> 17. Re: Ancestry.com ([email protected]) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:50:27 -0500 >>From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry contact info >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hello "Genie": >> >>What's the meaning of this line:: >> >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> >>It looks to me like you have information about me and my computer that you didn't get from this mailing list and >>should >>not have as a list member. >> >>You don't represent Ancestry.com, I suppose? >>By the way, I _have been bombarded with spam the past few weeks. >> >>Sam >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "GENIE RAGAN" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:18 PM >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry contact info >> >> >>> Sam, >>> In regard to your question about "why would I want to contact this person if I didn't want him to know who I was is >>> beyond me.". I have an answer for you. >>> You may want to have the person know who you are, BUT do not want to be on their personal email list so that you >>> start >>> getting jokes etc. from them. It may be you only want to have contact with them regarding the submitted >>> information. >>> Also, much to my dismay, I found that "Spammers" take email addys from places like forums etc. and then you are on >>> the >>> Spammers list, and boy will you be sorry. >>> You can always contact the person, add your name and email addy to the message if you want them to have it, and not >>> worry about others getting the email address and name. This, I have found, works very well. >>> Though this may not alter your opinion of Ancestry. com, I hope it helps you in understanding the contact practice. >>> >>> >>> Genie >>> Editor by Default >>> www.OurBrickWalls.com<http://www.ourbrickwalls.com/> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:21:54 -0500 >>> From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> I think there was some discussion a while back regarding Ancestry.com which I no longer have in my mailbox. >>> >>> Someone had posted a message I think regarding information they'd found in a family tree submitted to Ancestry by a >>> "Roberds" or something similar. >>> >>> I think I stumbled on the same submission last evening. What I found was information I know to be erroneous. There >>> was >>> a box to contact the submitter. I clicked on the box and a prewritten email came up that said in replying to the >>> submitter, I could be assured that my identity would not be revealed. Now why would I want to contact this person if >>> I >>> didn't want him to know who I was is beyond me. >>> >>> ====================================== >>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>> ------------------------------------ >>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 2 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:06:15 -0500 >>From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hi Lois: >> >>I have a three volume set of Straussburger & Hinke's "Pennsylvania German Pioneers". Ship's passenger lists prior to >>1808 if somene needs a lookup. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:44 PM >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >> >> >>> >>> >>> I've seen books with the information -- The original ship records I've seen >>> were virtually unreadable and in German, so would be worth it to have the >>> books or ask for a lookup on the MDGarret site I think. >>> >>> Lois >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 12/14/2006 2:32:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> A while back you could access the ships passenger lists on Rootsweb but now >>> you must be a member of Ancestry to do so. As far as I remember all the >>> lists >>> were compiled by volunteers. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ====================================== >>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>> ------------------------------------ >>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 3 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:39:57 -0500 >>From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hello Charles: >> >>The links below don't work for me. >> >>Sam >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Charles Harvey" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:07 PM >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >> >> >>> www.gale.ancestry.com/ >>> Important notice regarding this site. Ancestry Plus was a specialized >>> genealogy site from Ancestry.com designed specifically for libraries and >>> other *...* >>> *www*.*gale*.*ancestry*.*com*/ >>> <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=722&q=related:www.gale.ancestry.com/> >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> In a message dated 12/14/2006 6:12:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>>> [email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> I do not know if there is a Morman church in Garrett County, but at my >>>> location I can go to the local church and access Ancestry at any time. It >>>> is always >>>> available on their computers at no charge to anyone. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That's really good to know as I'm headed for Salt Lake City in or about June >>>> ;o) >>>> >>>> I'm going to test their system with my Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold Hetrick >>>> from Bavaria. She had a sister Margarethe Eisner that I know about and that was >>>> it. I will take Conrad and Nancy's org chart with me with the "Naming Order" >>>> -- I can't account for the names Elizabeth M. (oldest daughter), Frederick >>>> (2nd son), Margaret (3rd daughter, perhaps named after Margarethe), Rosa (4th >>>> daughter), or Adam (5th son). Should be interesting. >>>> >>>> Lois >>>> ====================================== >>>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ====================================== >>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>> ------------------------------------ >>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 4 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:56:47 -0500 >>From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hi Lois: >> >>I've never been to Salt Lake City, but I think you'll find better things to spend your time on than Ancestry.com's web >>site. >> >>I have used their facilites over the years, and if you have a Morman church near you, I would go there first and get a >>better idea of what you want to do when you get to Salt Lake City. In fact, I think you can do anything there you can >>do >>in Salt Lake, and save yourself the trip. >> >>Sam >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:25 PM >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >> >> >>> >>> In a message dated 12/14/2006 6:12:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> I do not know if there is a Morman church in Garrett County, but at my >>> location I can go to the local church and access Ancestry at any time. It >>> is always >>> available on their computers at no charge to anyone. >>> >>> >>> >>> That's really good to know as I'm headed for Salt Lake City in or about June >>> ;o) >>> >>> I'm going to test their system with my Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold Hetrick >>> from Bavaria. She had a sister Margarethe Eisner that I know about and that was >>> it. I will take Conrad and Nancy's org chart with me with the "Naming Order" >>> -- I can't account for the names Elizabeth M. (oldest daughter), Frederick >>> (2nd son), Margaret (3rd daughter, perhaps named after Margarethe), Rosa (4th >>> daughter), or Adam (5th son). Should be interesting. >>> >>> Lois >>> ====================================== >>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>> ------------------------------------ >>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 5 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:50:00 -0500 >>From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hi Connie: >> >>I belonged to and supported rootsweb several years before Ancestry.com bought them out. In the early years they were >>strictly a volunteer organization who put in a lot of long cold hours and their own money to allow folks like us with >>an >>interest in genealogy to communicate with each other. >> >>I had a bad feeling in my gut when they were forced to "partner" with Ancestry.com because they could no longer afford >>to buy new servers, etc. to keep up with the demand. I still have that feeling. >> >>I use Ancestry.com almost entirely for U. S. census data. I have found WW I & II Draft Registration card images to be >>useful If trying to place a male at a certain place and time, because even if they weren't called into service they >>still had to register for the draft. >> >>Beyond those two categories, I've found little of use on Ancestry.com over the several years I've been a member. >> >>Family trees placed on their website are pretty useless. >> >>Sam >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "cbeachy" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:26 PM >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >> >> >>> Good for you, Sam, but remember that Ancestry now owns Rootsweb. >>> Connie >>> >>>> >>>> For my own part, I'm willing to share what I've found with anyone who >>> cares to exchange information, but I have no intention of donating it to >>> Ancestry.com for commercial purposes. >>>> >>>> Sam >>> >>> >>> ====================================== >>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>> ------------------------------------ >>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 6 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:39:49 EST >>From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >>In a message dated 12/16/2006 7:01:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >> >>> think you can do anything there you can do >>> in Salt Lake, and save yourself the trip. >>> >> >>The facts are these. There are thousands of books that are not available by >>ordering microfilm and that would be the advantage of going to Salt Lake. They >>are not available in the family history centers and have not been microfilmed. >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 7 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:48:12 EST >>From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >>In a message dated 12/16/2006 4:00:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>Hi Lois: >> >>I have a three volume set of Straussburger & Hinke's "Pennsylvania German >>Pioneers". Ship's passenger lists prior to >>1808 if someone needs a lookup. >> >> >> >>Thanks Sam . . . Good to know. >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 8 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:14:02 EST >>From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >>In a message dated 12/16/2006 4:00:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>Hi Lois: >> >>I've never been to Salt Lake City, but I think you'll find better things to >>spend your time on than Ancestry.com's web >>site. >> >>I have used their facilites over the years, and if you have a Morman church >>near you, I would go there first and get a >>better idea of what you want to do when you get to Salt Lake City. In fact, >>I think you can do anything there you can do >>in Salt Lake, and save yourself the trip. >> >>Sam >> >> >>I was thinking I'd take a look at the World Family Tree that I couldn't >>access in Ancestry without paying the additional fee to see if I could find out >>anything on Conrad's wife Anna Maria "Nancy" Uphold from Bavaria. My original >>thought was just to step in there to check it out. I'm going to Salt Lake City >> to meet a new cousin that contacted me several months ago. Her name is >>Charolette Powell. Her great-grandmother was Matilda Hetrick Shunk (wife of >>Francis Shunk), daughter of John Hetrick and Laura Kimmet of the Cover. She's the >>2nd great-granddaughter of Johannes Caspar Hederich/Hetrick my great-father's >>younger brother. Conrad was the 2nd child and Johannes Caspar was the 7th. >> >>Lois >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 9 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:11:18 -0800 (PST) >>From: Erin White <[email protected]> >>Subject: [MDGARRET] LDS Church >>To: Garrett County List <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >>There is an LDS (Mormon) Church on John Drive in Oakland, of which I am a member. However, there is no Family History >>Center there. The closest family history centers to Garrett County are in at the LDS chapel in Allegany County on Long >>Drive in LaVale. There is also one in Morgantown. I will gladly provide the names and phone numbers of the family >>history consultants. Please contact me off-list at [email protected] I lived in Utah for ten years and >>researched both at the Family History Library at Brigham Young University and the collection in Salt Lake. >> __________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 10 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:22:23 EST >>From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >>In a message dated 12/16/2006 6:40:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>The facts are these. There are thousands of books that are not available by >>ordering microfilm and that would be the advantage of going to Salt Lake. >>They >>are not available in the family history centers and have not been >>microfilmed. >> >> >> >>Thanks for the information, good to know.--always wondered how they were >>different from other Mormon libraries. I'm hoping I can get an assistant to help >>me and find right off the bat if there is anything on Nancy. I plan to take >>at least a week to tour -- I can afford a few hours at the library. >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 11 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:05:06 -0500 >>From: "Virginia Kelly" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Dear Sam, >>Would you please look for a Whetstone from Germany, preferably Isaac, Henry >>or Jacob. I know when Peter came but my 5th.g.grandfather was Isaac who >>settled in Pa. Thank you so much ans A very happy Holiday. Virginia >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:48 PM >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >> >> >>> >>> In a message dated 12/16/2006 4:00:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> Hi Lois: >>> >>> I have a three volume set of Straussburger & Hinke's "Pennsylvania German >>> Pioneers". Ship's passenger lists prior to >>> 1808 if someone needs a lookup. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks Sam . . . Good to know. >>> ====================================== >>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the >>> web at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>> ------------------------------------ >>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list >>> administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 12 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:32:02 GMT >>From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Subject: [MDGARRET] research >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain >> >>There's a Family History Center in Hancock. >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 13 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:05:42 -0500 >>From: "Wendy Mammoliti" <[email protected]> >>Subject: [MDGARRET] passenger list look ups >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hi everyone, >> >>I own a copy of "Emigrants to Pennsylvania 1641-1819: A Consolidation of >>Ship Passenger Lists from the Pennsylvania Magazine of History and >>Biography"; edited by Michael Tepper. I would be glad to try and do look-ups >>from this book, if it would help anyone out. >> >>Wendy >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 14 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:22:20 -0800 (PST) >>From: Lee Fasnacht <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] passenger list look ups >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >>Hi Wendy, >> >> Would you please check for any Deetz. I am looking for Christian Deetz. His name may have been listed as Dietzet >> or some varation that looks close. >> >> Also looking for Recknor. Varations can be Reckner, Rickner, etc. >> >> Thank You and have a wonderful holiday. >> >> Lee Fasnacht >> >>Wendy Mammoliti <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >>I own a copy of "Emigrants to Pennsylvania 1641-1819: A Consolidation of >>Ship Passenger Lists from the Pennsylvania Magazine of History and >>Biography"; edited by Michael Tepper. I would be glad to try and do look-ups >>from this book, if it would help anyone out. >> >>Wendy >> >>====================================== >>Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>------------------------------------ >>If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 15 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:06:33 -0500 >>From: "Sam Bowser" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>IF...those books are of value to your research.....AND if....you are going to spend enough time there to delve through >>them....the trip might be worthwhile. >> >>Sam >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:39 AM >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >> >> >>> In a message dated 12/16/2006 7:01:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> >>>> think you can do anything there you can do >>>> in Salt Lake, and save yourself the trip. >>>> >>> >>> The facts are these. There are thousands of books that are not available by >>> ordering microfilm and that would be the advantage of going to Salt Lake. They >>> are not available in the family history centers and have not been microfilmed. >>> ====================================== >>> Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>> ------------------------------------ >>> If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 16 >>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:13:55 -0500 >>From: "Wendy Mammoliti" <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] passenger list look ups - Lee's request >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hi Lee, >> >>I have the following listings: >> >>Deeds, Frederic - shows a servant or apprentice bound and assigned before >>Hon. John Gibson, Mayor of Philadelphia in 1772, and the listing reads as >>follows: >> >>Dec. 10th - Philip William Smith last from Rotterdam to Frederic Deeds of >>Philadelphia >> >>There are also listings for the following: >> >>Servants Bound and assigned before James Hamilton, Mayor of Philadelphia: >>Jan. 20, 1746 - Mary Reckiner, in consideration of sundry sums of money >>expended on her account by Mary Johnson, of Wiccacoo, indents herself a >>servant to the said Mary Johnson for three years from this date. Customary >>dues. >> >>Thats the closest listings that I have. Other close names listed are: >>Reincke, Abraham and Sarah >>Reineck/Reineek: John Chritn., Ludwig, Mary Maria Elizabeth >>Richter: John; John C. >>Richterin, Ann >> >>Let me know if any of the above list are of interest. >> >>Happy Holidays! >>Wendy >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 17 >>Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:43:10 EST >>From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] Ancestry.com >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >>In a message dated 12/16/2006 3:07:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>IF...those books are of value to your research.....AND if....you are going >>to spend enough time there to delve through >>them....the trip might be worthwhile. >> >>Sam >> >> >> >>We'll fly to Salt Lake City and rent a car -- plan to spend about a week. >>Will most likely spend 2-3 days with cousin Charlotte Stewart & her family >>(John Caspar and Laura Kimmet Hetrick's 2nd g-granddau through their dau Matilda >>Hetrick Shunk). Also have a business associate/friend that moved from the >>Sacramento area to Ogden. Soooo, if I can't get some immediate assistance with >>"Nancy" from Bavaria, I will not spend a lot of time. >> >>Would anyone by any chance have a record of Conrad Hederich/Hetrick & wife >>Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold leaving Germany in 1959 (Maybe from Bremmen to >>Baltimore)? I read where they came to America on their honeymoon. Conrad was a >>coachman in H-Darmstadt at the time they married. Their first child Charles >>Conrad was b. in MD. >> >>Lois >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>To contact the MDGARRET list administrator, send an email to >>[email protected] >> >>To post a message to the MDGARRET mailing list, send an email to [email protected] >> >>__________________________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>email with no additional text. >> >> >>End of MDGARRET Digest, Vol 1, Issue 59 >>*************************************** > > > Bettie > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? 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When I go to SLC I just have one page to find and that would be the German record of Zeilbach of their citizens who applied to immigrate after 1846--page 2 ended with my 2nd great-grandparents. I will take what I have with me. I'm hoping to find when the rest of my great-grandfather Conrad Hetrick and his wife Anna Maria "Nancy" Upphold applied to emigrate. It would have had to have happened after 1854 but before 1861 as their first born (Charles Conrad) was born in 1860 in MD. The record gives the parents' names of those emigrating. Would be a wonderful find . . . then maybe from there I can find the rest of Nancy's family from Bavaria. I presently only have the name of her sister Margarethe Eisner and her daughter Johanna (looks like a combination of Johann and Anna) Hmmmm. Lois Hetrick Stewart In a message dated 12/18/2006 2:02:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Using LDS facilities, I have found old European church records of births, marriages, and deaths. This info would have been difficult to discover by any other means of which I am aware. On a trip to Germany, I took the time to search out and view for myself one set of church records I had seen copied by LDS. The LDS records faithfully copied the original. Walt

I couldn't find fault with the Old Scottish Parish records. It's been a while since I used them to find Willisons. If I recall correctly, what you got to see was pictures of the parish records. Having spent a lot of time recently transcribing some old church records, I can see where a lot of mistakes could be made. Not all pastors could write well so I've been trying to figure out what is written by using a lot of research material. Usually that doesn't help either. Old books can become damaged in time if not cared for properly. Connie

> [Original Message] > > I have to agree with the mistakes found...but they're mostly in the > Ancestral Files. These are files entered by members of the church, in an > effort to make sure their ancestors will be in heaven. . Well, not always. There's an Ancestral file on-line at the LDS site on my paternal great-grandparents that was submitted by a non-Mormon. And this person does not descend from those great-grandparents either. She is their "half-great-grandniece" and so distantly related that she has misspelled my paternal great-grandfather's surname in the files she submitted to the LDS. I might have overlooked the misspelling, it's common among strangers, but there were so many other errors that I finally wrote this person. She admitted that the files were pieced together from stuff other family members had given her and that she had not confirmed any of my great-grandparents' family info since she didn't directly descend from them. I contacted the LDS several years ago to see about getting these files corrected but haven't had any luck so far. I was just told my info would be "preserved". It has never been made available on-line so who knows how they are "preserving" it.. It will be interesting to see how this new on-line service will work and what they will do with the info submitted.. Hmmm?. . Bye for now, Kathleen

Using LDS facilities, I have found old European church records of births, marriages, and deaths. This info would have been difficult to discover by any other means of which I am aware. On a trip to Germany, I took the time to search out and view for myself one set of church records I had seen copied by LDS. The LDS records faithfully copied the original. Walt -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of cbeachy Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:59 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] LDS Church I have to agree with the mistakes found...but they're mostly in the Ancestral Files. These are files entered by members of the church, in an effort to make sure their ancestors will be in heaven. My son is a Mormon and got me into doing genealogy so I could find his ancestors. Found more than he bargained for. Connie ====================================== Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the web at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html ------------------------------------ If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have to agree with the mistakes found...but they're mostly in the Ancestral Files. These are files entered by members of the church, in an effort to make sure their ancestors will be in heaven. My son is a Mormon and got me into doing genealogy so I could find his ancestors. Found more than he bargained for. Connie

In a message dated 12/18/2006 3:48:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: sure know that feeling, Lois! Happy Holidays!! Back at ya! The site is really buzzing huh. Good to see all the people back up and communicating. I was beginning to wonder where everyone was. ;o) It's a great site! Since I'm in California and all of my family is in Ohio and NY, the people I've come to know here are just like family. I've met so many people in person as a result on my visits to Maryland and I felt like I'd known them all of my life. Lois Hetrick Stewart

Yes, I can't wait. Once it is launched and they have the site up and the bugs worked out I plan to add my Stark file (over 5,000 individuals) and the collateral families so that everyone can easily find my information. I've been researching this line for over 40 years and figure I'd better get it out there and preserved. Tom On 12/18/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tom, > > That is great news! > > Lois Hetrick Stewart > > In a message dated 12/18/2006 12:21:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > That problem is about to be solved. The Family History Library is > about to > release a new online service that will permit corrections of the data on > www.familysearch.org > > > > > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the > web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list > administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a very interesting discussion and I think that the important point to keep in mind is that the submitted genealogies are not the responsibility of Ancestry.com and should be taken in the spirit they are given. Fellow researchers, as imperfect as they may be, have done what they believe is their due diligence and want to share their work, as flawed as it is and post it online. For myself, I look back at what I thought was "good" research and documentation when I first began and laugh at how inept it was. As always, it is incumbent upon each researcher to verify all "facts" that are uncovered to the best of their ability. These online genealogies are only a small part of what is available on the Ancestry.com website but unfortunately we fixate on them because they are not without fault. Digitized books, census info, church and military records, historic newspapers...the list goes on and on. But for some reason, we all continue to beat the dead horse of submitted ! genealogies and the "wrong" information contained within. I prefer to focus on the positive. And right now I hear a hot turkey sandwich calling my name. A great evening to all. Catch you on the flip side. : ) Eileen

Tom, That is great news! Lois Hetrick Stewart In a message dated 12/18/2006 12:21:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: That problem is about to be solved. The Family History Library is about to release a new online service that will permit corrections of the data on www.familysearch.org

That problem is about to be solved. The Family History Library is about to release a new online service that will permit corrections of the data on www.familysearch.org That will be a great step forward in cooperative online genealogy since we can submit our records and allow various genealogists to add their input if they have different facts. Each person can include the source for their information (another new feature) so that we can compare and decide on which details to accept. This new online service will be released "soon" ... Tom Still working on: Stark, Broadwater, Custer, and a dozen more Garrett County families. On 12/18/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > I too have found numerous wrong entries in their data and there is no way > to > correct it. I have tried to locate the submitters but am told the privacy > requirements prohibit disclosure. Their facilities are good for accessing > anything from Ancestry and census reports, etc. > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I too have found numerous wrong entries in their data and there is no way to correct it. I have tried to locate the submitters but am told the privacy requirements prohibit disclosure. Their facilities are good for accessing anything from Ancestry and census reports, etc.

Not knowing your dates and locality for your Christian Dietz, I am sending Rev. War note that I have. Carolyn http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/washington/military/must756-760.txt Military: Post Rev War: Muster Rolls and Papers relating to the County of Washington. Pa. Archives, 1-Vol. II-6th Series, pp. 756-760. CAPTAIN HOWELL'S COMPANY. Captain. Abner Howell. Christian Diets ============================================== ---and just for fun??? ---a list of poss. spellings taken from soundex. Deitz 99 x x Dietzs 99 Detz 96 x Deytz 95 Diets 95 Daetz 95 Daitz 95 Deatz 95 Deetz 95 Diet 93 x x x x Dietes 91 Deits 90 Diete 89 Diett 89 x x x x Dietze 89 Datz 88 Deit 87 x x Deets 85 Daytz 85 Deats 85 x Diette 85 x Dets 85 Deitze 85 Deite 84 x Dietzi 84 Deitt 84 Deietz 83 Det 83 x Detez 82 Detts 82 x Deet 82 x x Deates 82 x x Deat 82 x Daet 82 D'et 82 Daite 81 Dietx 81 Diety 81 x Dieth 81 x Dieta 81 Dietse 80 Dates 80 x x x x Deitte 80 Deight 80 x Deght 79 x Deett 79 x Deitas 79 Deate 79 x D'ete 79 Dait 79 x x Dettes 79 Dett 79 x x Deitos 79 Dete 79 Dietl 78 x Dietje 77 Dietey 77 x Dietta 77 Detzi 77 Dats 77 x Daytes 77 x Deatte 76 D'ette 76 Date 76 x x x Deita 76 Deity 76 x Deette 76 Dette 76 x Deith 76 x Deito 76 Ditez 76 Detas 75 Detis 75 Datts 75

My personal experience has been similar in that research in many cases was done without verification in any form. I have been presented with "facts" from research located through the LDS resources (website, etc...) that were clearly wrong based on my own research and that of others such as yourselves who have documents to back up the work. I know that a person can access many volumes of researchable documents through the LDS libraries and that research is only as good as the researcher. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone, I enjoy the "conversations" on this site and thank everyone who has aided me in my search for the Johnstons, Hilemans and Upholds and associated lines in the past few years. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe & Erin Hartman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MDGARRET] LDS Church > I've been reading these posts about the LDS curch and trips to Salt Lake > City, and I have two cousins that are Mormons and live in that area. > > A bit of a warning here: I hope you all realize that they do not verify > any of the info in their database. I've checked some of the data that > they have on my ancestors, and they are dead wrong on portions of it. > Keep in mind that they accept info from just about anyone, knowledgeable > family source or not, so if "Great-Uncle Bill" was a horse thief and the > older family members tried to cover it up, Uncle Bill might not be in > the database. Or if a female family member gave birth to a child out of > wedlock, the older submitters many times changed birth or marriage dates > to make it seem legitimate before submitting to the LDS database. > > My cousins quite often send messages to me asking if I have any info on > certain members of the family. Their religious zeal to get every > possible person into their database often times takes precedent over > accuracy. > > Joe Hartman > > ========================= > > Erin White wrote: > >>There is an LDS (Mormon) Church on John Drive in Oakland, of which I am a >>member. However, there is no Family History Center there. The closest >>family history centers to Garrett County are in at the LDS chapel in >>Allegany County on Long Drive in LaVale. There is also one in Morgantown. >>I will gladly provide the names and phone numbers of the family history >>consultants. Please contact me off-list at [email protected] I >>lived in Utah for ten years and researched both at the Family History >>Library at Brigham Young University and the collection in Salt Lake. >> __________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >>====================================== >>Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the >>web at: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html >>------------------------------------ >>If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list >>administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ====================================== > Looking for your Garrett County ancestors? Make sure to visit us on the > web at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdgarret/index.html > ------------------------------------ > If you need help with this list, make sure to email the list > administrator, Sonny O'Haver, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >