hello all... the passenger list for the ship Friendship ( 2 November 1744) to Philadelphia lists my relation Peter Williar who in 1758 is one of the founding members of the Moravian church at Graceham... also listed on the Friendship is a Anthonius Willar about whom i can find no other imformation does anyone know Anthonius? in e-mail with other researchers i have heard also of a Theobalt Williar who may be a brother to my Peter ?? there is also in my notes a copy of an e-mail from some time ago concerning ties between some of the other founding families.. Johan George Harbaugh m Catharina Williard b 21 Dec 1721 s/o John Yost Harbaugh (Herbach) m. Maria Margaretha Klein b Ulmat Pfalz in 1707 does anyone know Maria Margaretha Klein?? evidently this group spent time in Kreutz Creek PA before moving on to Maryland so many questions ..i apologize... does anyone have a good map of 1700 Germany relating the locations of these often heard town names.. jay cline --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.