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    1. [MDCHARLE] The wives of Samuel Magruder and John Pottenger
    2. Norma Lundgren
    3. I am going to post this in three pieces since the list has taken to bouncing long messages if the administrator doesn't approve their being posted as the St Mary's County list administrator has explained. I will wait for the first part to show up, then "answer" with the second, etc. Hi, List, For several years, there has been controversy about the wives of John Pottenger and Samuel Magruder. I have come to believe that Peter McManus is on to something and that Mary and Sarah were probably daughters of William Mills and Tabitha Hilleary. Following is the many (and often confusing) items I have collected disproving that they were daughters of Ninian Beall, and showing that they might be Sarah Pottenger and Mary Mullikin, as well as the arguments for them to be the Mills sisters: First the argument for the Mills Sisters: The probable birthdate of Eleanor Magruder, the wife of Nehemiah Wade is the most convincing argument against Sarah Pottenger, born 1659, being the wife of Samuel Magruder (1660-1711) and in favor of the Sarah Mills, born 1670, favored by (I think) Linda Reno. Eleanor Magruder was most likely born after the 23 Nov 1710 will of her father and possibly after his death which was before his 16 Apr 1711 probate. Eleanor isn't mentioned in her father's will but is given as a daughter of Samuel and Sarah Magruder and the wife of Nehemiah Wade in the 16 Jan 1731/32 will of her mother, Sarah Magruder. Nehemiah Wade was born about 1705, and Eleanor and he were married about 1729. If John Pottenger's wife truly was Mary Mullikin, would Elizabeth (Mullikin) Hartup have gotten the whole of the estate of their half-brother James Williams per the following? (James Williams had already given land to James Mullikin.) Prince George's County deed book M, page 222, in 1726, John Demall age 70 gave a deposition regarding 100 acres of "Wood's Joy" formerly in Charles Co. and James Williams and his son James. James Williams died without bequest so the 100 acres went to Richard Hartrup by his wife Elizabeth, who was a sister to James Mullikin, deceased, father of James Mullikin. James Mullikin, deceased, and Elizabeth were children of James Mullikin and his wife Mary. Magruder Family Genealogy Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/Magruder/messages/1126.html Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of Alexander) Posted by: Peter McManus (ID *****7688) Date: June 18, 2003 at 05:59:50 Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of Alexander the immigrant) Official records show a close relationship between the Magruder, Mills and Willett families in colonial Maryland. 1. At William Mills death in 1676, his will (Calvert County) names wife Tabitha, sons William Jr. and John and unnamed daughters. Overseers of the estate were Alexander Magruder, Samuel Tayler and Ninian Beall. One of the witnesses to the will was Richard Chaffey. 2. In 1677 when Alexander Magruder died his will named almost the same set of overseers: Samuel Taylor, Ninian Beall and Nathaniel Truman. 3. Tabitha, widow of William Mills, remarried to Thomas Blanford. Thomas Blanford's will of 1698 (Prince George's County) names as overseers: Samuel Magruder, William Mills (Tabitha's son), and Edward Willett (husband of Tabitha's daughter, Tabitha Mills). 4. Richard Chaffey, a witness to the will of William Mills Sr. has his will proved in 1698 (PGC). Overseers were Samuel Magruder and Edward Willett. 5. Samuel Magruder, Edward Willett and a John Smith were asked in the will of Thomas Sprigg Sr. to divide the residue of his estate in 1704 (PGC) Connections here somehow. Thomas Sprigg's daughter, Eleanor, married Thomas Hilleary. When Thomas Hilleary died, William Mills Jr signed the inventory as next of kin. 6. Samuel Magruder's own will of 1711 (PGC) was witnesses by Edward Willett, Tabitha Willett (Edward's wife) and an Ann Smith 7. Benjamin Berry, in his will of 1719 (PGC) named as overseers: Samuel Magruder Jr., Thomas Hilleary Jr., Edward Willett and John Clagett. Benjamin Berry's wife was Mary Hilleary, brother to Thomas Jr. 9. Anchovie Hills, the home plantation of Alexander Magruder, bordered Trenant, the home plantation of William Mills Sr. 10. Samuel and Sarah named a son William and had a grandson by their son Samuel, named William Mills Magruder. To play devil's advocate, both Samuel Magruder and Edward Willett were PGC officals. It might be expected that they would be asked to witness county documents. Still, all wills where they were overseers together seem to have a family connection and neither acted as overseer alone in the probate records of the county. So, I think, but can not prove, that Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder, was the daughter of William Mills Sr. and his wife, Tabitha Comments? Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of Alexander Posted by: Fredric Z. Saunders (ID *****6091) Date: June 20, 2003 at 21:35:42 In Reply to: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of Alexander) by Peter McManus Interesting thoughts. In doing an Internet search, I found that Ann Whalen in a copyrighted 2000 article at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwcogs/famhist/Willett.html in approaching from the Willet side speculated the same thing. For children of William Mills and Tabitha Hilleary she listed: "Sarah Mill who married Samuel McGruder (not proven)." To add a couple pieces to what you listed: In his will, Samuel Magruder named as overseers his brother Alexander Magruder, brother Nathaniel Magruder, and brother John Pottinger. Now, if Samuel's wife Sarah was Sarah Mills, the most likely way that he would call John Pottinger (Pottenger) "brother" is if Pottinger's wife Mary was a sister to Sarah. For the other theoritical possibilities, Samuel Magruder had no sister Mary to be the wife of John Pottinger. While John Pottinger did have a sister named Sarah in England, there is no evidence that she ever went to America to be Samuel Magruder's wife. If Sarah was a Mills, then it would also be likely that John Pottenger's wife Mary was a Mills. 1. When Thomas Blanford's inventory was taken, the appraisers were Samuell Magruder and John Pottenger. Under the theory, Blanford would have been the step-father of both their wives. [MD Inventories and Accounts 16:108] 2. William Mills, Jr.'s administration account in 1706 showed a payment to "John Pottinger for the use of Martha Blanford." [MD Inventories and Accounts 26:136] If the children of Thomas Blanford were named in order in his will, Martha was the youngest. If the children were born about every two years after Tabitha (widow Mills) married Thomas Blanford, then Martha was probably born about 1686-1690. One implication of the payment to John Pottinger for Martha Blanford would be that Martha was living with his family. With both her parents dead, a logical place that Martha, a single age 16-20 year old female, would live would be with one of her [half]-sisters under this theory. For your #10, I have not followed the Magruder family. Can you tell me the document which shows the grandson of Samuel and Sarah with the middle name Mills? Thanks Rick Saunders Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of Alexan Posted by: Peter McManus (ID *****7688) Date: June 21, 2003 at 07:13:37 In Reply to: Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of Alexan by Fredric Z. Saunders Rick, thanks for your response. I've read your article on Ninian Beall, and as a descendant (through George) I appreciate your work. I have two sources for the name William Mills Magruder. They are, however, both from transcripts. 1) The will of Samuel Magruder (son of Samuel and Sarah, husband of Eleanor Wade) was written Jan. 30, 1739 (no double year notation in the transcript) and proved in Montgomery County on Feb. 9, 1779. He is called a planter of Prince George's County and many people give his death date as in 1779. Myself, I wonder if he died sometime soon after writing his will in 1739, before the creation of Frederick or Montgomery Counties and his will was not recorded at the time. Forty years is a long time to leave a will untouched. In the will he names wife Eleanor, sons Elias, Alexander, Josias, William Mills, Samuel, Zachariah and daughters Eleanor, Lucey and Elizabeth Spencer. Liber A, folio 81. 2) The will of Robert Magruder (son of Samuel Magruder and Eleanor Wade, husband of Sarah Crabb) was written Mar. 2, 1735/36 and proved in Prince George's County Jun. 23, 1736. He names wife, Sarah, daughter Eleanor, brother Elias, nephew Samuel Magruder. The witnesses to the will were: Samuel Magruder (prob. brother), Andrew Scott, John Haswell (brother Samuel married Jane Haswell) and William Mill Magruder. Folio 262. I've seen people use the statement in Samuel Sr.'s will "brother John Pottinger" to prove two unreconcilable facts at the same time: that Sarah and Mary, wife of John Pottinger were sisters (and lots of people still assign them to Ninian. Why do people think they're Bealls?) and that John married second to Samuel's sister, Elizabeth named in his father's will (under 14 years of age in 1677). I haven't found any indication that John remarried to an Elizabeth yet. I've been checking deeds for a dower release. There is no recorded deed surviving but Elizabeth's inherited property ended up with her brothers. I think Elizabeth probably died unmarried. My post previous to this one has to do with Samuel and his siblings ages. Peter

    03/24/2007 03:21:08
    1. Re: [MDCHARLE] The wives of Samuel Magruder and John Pottenger
    2. Norma Lundgren
    3. Now, disproving daughters of Ninian Beall: Ninian BEALL did have a daughter named Mary, but she married Andrew HAMILTON. In 1706, Ninian BEALL gave his daughter Mary a young Negro woman Nanny, age 5. (Prince George'e Co. MD deeds C:186a) The will of Ninian BEALL gave his son-in-law Andrew HAMBLETON a Negro woman named Allie. (MD Wills 14:504) The will of Andrew HAMILTON (MD Cal. of Wills 4:211) named his wife Mary. The inventory of Andrew HAMILTON's estate listed a young Negro woman named Nanny, and a Negro woman named Ailie. These records show that Mary, daughter of Ninian BEALL married Andrew HAMILTON. Mary Bell arrived 1666. Vol. X, folio 417, Land Office, Annapolis. She m Peter Elsey, Nov. 11, 1672, Somerset County. Court Records, Vol. DBIKL, local court, Somerset County, 1672. December 1666 Came Samuel Chew of Ann Arundell County Gent and demands Land for the transportation of these persons following. Viz: Robert Howes, Daniel Rogers, William Perce, Ann Cary, Mary Bell and George Tapscott (all his own Servants) into this province here to inhabit. Warrant granted to the said Chew for three hundred acres of Land and the thirteenth day of December returnable the thirthieth of May next on serving the which warrant ....?...... away unto Daniell Jennifer of St.Maries in the County of St.Maries gent, in manner and form following. Viz: [Chew sells his warrant and rights to land of 300 acres to Daniell Jennifer for an unspecified amount in hand] Signed and Sealed this thirteenth day of December Anno Domini one thousand Six hundred Sixty and six. /s/ Saml Chew Witnesses:Edward Savage, William Burges. [Proved before Charles Calvert] [Maryland Patents, Lib.10:286. LDS film 0013068] Note: The demand for land could take place months or years after the arrival of the immigrant. John Elzey [sic] died at Mancokin and was buried at the plantation there in May 1665(?). John Elzey Jr. the son of John Elzey aforesaid died and was buried at Manockin in the year of our Lord 1667. Peter Elzey and Mary Bell were married by Mr. Rev. Maddert Clarke on the eleventh day of November 1672. The birth of four Peter Elzey/Mary Bell children are then listed, the last in Feb 1678 (1678/9). Arnold Elzey appears to be a brother and was married to Major (sic) Walter by Capt. David Browne (same as Sarah) in 1682. There are also Evans marriages and births. All the above quotes come from Somerset Co., MD land records; Lib.DB no. IKL:72+. LDS film 0014363. Sarah Bell arrived 1675. Vol. XVIII, folio 306, Land Office, Annapolis. She m Sept. 1681, James English of Somerset County. Court Records, Vol. DBIKL, local court, Somerset County, 1681 March 29 1675; Passengers Imported in the Concord of New Castle ...[by]...Michaell Taylor, Edward Robinson, Master.: Antho: Philips, Richard Smith, Robert Story, Henry Plomer, James Hunter, Leonard Milborn, Antho: Coxon, Matt: Brown, Xtopher Macknele, Tho. Birckett, Edward Wilkeson, Geo: Sturdy, Geo: Waters, Geo: Blades, Michael Studham, Richd: Anderson, Jane Stuard, Tho: Hewson, Jane Taylor, Margaret Midcalfe, Sarah Bell, Eliza: Trotter, Ann Leathett, Jane Beadle, Jane Houghen, Jane White, Eliz: Thompson, Margaret Wilkeson, Elizabeth Pratt, Twenty nine persons in all proved by the above named Michael Taylor before me this 29th March 1675. /s/ Charles Calvert I Michael Taylor doe Asigne over all my Rights of these Twenty nine Servants Imported by Tho. Taylor of Great Choptank. Witness my hand March the 30th 1675. /s/ Michael Taylor. May 5 1675; Warrant then Granted to Tho. Taylor of Great Choptank for one thousand four hundred and fifty acres of Land due unto me by the above assignment from Michael Taylor. [Maryland Patents, Lib.18:306. LDS film 0013071] James English and Sarah Bee/Bel were married by Capt David Browne ye twenty September Ano Dm 1681. Elizabeth English daughter of James English born of Sarah his wife ye third day of February Anno Dom 1681 The above quotes come from Somerset Co., MD land records; Lib.DB no. IKL:72+. LDS film 0014363.

    03/24/2007 05:39:31
    1. Re: [MDCHARLE] The wives of Samuel Magruder and John Pottenger
    2. D Michael Johnson
    3. There is an Elinor mentioned in the Will of Samuel Magruder: In the name of God, Amen. I, Samuel Magruder of Prince Georges County in the Province of Maryland --- Impremus, it is my will and pleasure in this my last Will and Testament that all my funeral charges and also all other just Debts due to and from me to any person or persons by Bill or otherwise howsoever be fully and honestley paid without Suit or Settler of Law by my well beloved wife Sary Magruder whom I do ... and appoint and ordaine to be my sole Executor over my whole estate. First I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Sary Magruder my now Dwelling plantation and the Land belonging unto it during her whole life to ... have ... and make use of to the best of her advantage and after her decease I give and bequeath unto my son Samuel Magruder the said plantation with two hundred acres of Land belonging to it being the uppermost part of a tract of land called "Good Luck" to him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Samuel Magruder one hundred acres of Land it being called by the name of "Magruders Delight" and the plantation belonging to it unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Ninian Magruder a plantation that was my Brother John Magruder's and three hundred acres of Land belonging unto it being the uppermost part of a tract of land called "Alexandria" unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son John Magruder the tract of land called "Dumblane" with the plantation and two hundred and fifty acres of land belonging unto it unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son James Magruder the plantation that John Colle lives on and three hundred acres of land belonging unto it unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son William Magruder all that tract of Land called "Turkey Cock Branch" with one hundred and ninety-three acres of Land belonging unto it unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Alexander Magruder one hundred acres of land it being part of a track of Land called "Good Luck" unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Alexander Magruder the eighth part of the Pertuxson Merchant Ship unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Alexander Magruder tenn (hhds) of Tobacco for to be shipped home this yeare and with the produce for to buy a piece of land for him. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Nathaniel Magruder one hundred acres of land it being part of a track of Land called "Good Luck" unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Nathaniel Magruder the eighth part of the Purtuxson Merchant Ship unto him and his heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Nathaniel Magruder tenn (hhds) of Tobacco for to be shipped home this yeare and with the produce for to buy a piece of land for him. Item: My will is that if one other of my sons Samuel, Ninian, John, James, William, Alexander or Nathaniel Magruder shall dye without issue that then the deceased his land to be equallly devided between the other six brothers. Item: my will is that my five sons John, James, William, Alexander and Nathaniel Magruder shall work for themselves at the age of sixteen years. Item: I will and bequeath one third part of my personal estate unto my loveing wife Sary Magruder. Item: I will and bequeath unto my two darters Elizabeth Magruder and Sary Magruder ten pound for to buy them a gowne and petty cotte. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Item: I will and bequeath unto my five sons John, James, William, Alexander and Nathaniel Magruder and my three darturs Verlinder, Mary and Eliner Magruder the two thirds of my Personale Estate unto them and their heirs forever. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Item: I give and bequeath unto my sons Samuel, Ninian and John Magruder one lot at Marlborough Town containing one acres of land the Lot number forty eight unto them and their heirs forever. Item: I give and bequeath unto my four sons James, William, Alexander and Nathaniel Magruder one lot of land at Marlborough Town containing one acres of Land the lott number three unto them and their heirs forever. Item: my will is that what goods I have sent for out of England should be accounted of as my Personale Estate and my dear Wife for to have her thirds of them and do order and appoint my Brother Alexander Magruder and my brother Nathaniel Magruder and my brother John Pottenger to be overseers of this my last will and testament and lastly I do ordaine this to be my laste will and all other formerly made to be void and of none effect as witness my hand and seale this twenty third day of November in the year of our lord God one thousand seven hundred ten. Witnesses: Edwd Willett, Tabitha Willett, Ann Smith Samuel Magruder Sr. Cheers, Michael Kent Island, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: [MDCHARLE] The wives of Samuel Magruder and John Pottenger >I am going to post this in three pieces since the list has taken to >bouncing > long messages if the administrator doesn't approve their being posted as > the St > Mary's County list administrator has explained. I will wait for the first > part > to show up, then "answer" with the second, etc. > > > Hi, List, > For several years, there has been controversy about the wives of John > Pottenger > and Samuel Magruder. I have come to believe that Peter McManus is on to > something and that Mary and Sarah were probably daughters of William Mills > and > Tabitha Hilleary. Following is the many (and often confusing) items I have > collected disproving that they were daughters of Ninian Beall, and showing > that > they might be Sarah Pottenger and Mary Mullikin, as well as the arguments > for > them to be the Mills sisters: > > First the argument for the Mills Sisters: > > The probable birthdate of Eleanor Magruder, the wife of Nehemiah Wade is > the > most convincing argument against Sarah Pottenger, born 1659, being the > wife of > Samuel Magruder (1660-1711) and in favor of the Sarah Mills, born 1670, > favored > by (I think) Linda Reno. Eleanor Magruder was most likely born after the > 23 Nov > 1710 will of her father and possibly after his death which was before his > 16 Apr > 1711 probate. Eleanor isn't mentioned in her father's will but is given as > a > daughter of Samuel and Sarah Magruder and the wife of Nehemiah Wade in the > 16 > Jan 1731/32 will of her mother, Sarah Magruder. Nehemiah Wade was born > about > 1705, and Eleanor and he were married about 1729. > > If John Pottenger's wife truly was Mary Mullikin, would Elizabeth > (Mullikin) > Hartup have gotten the whole of the estate of their half-brother James > Williams > per the following? (James Williams had already given land to James > Mullikin.) > Prince George's County deed book M, page 222, in 1726, John Demall age 70 > gave a > deposition regarding 100 acres of "Wood's Joy" formerly in Charles Co. and > James > Williams and his son James. James Williams died without bequest so the 100 > acres > went to Richard Hartrup by his wife Elizabeth, who was a sister to James > Mullikin, deceased, father of James Mullikin. James Mullikin, deceased, > and > Elizabeth were children of James Mullikin and his wife Mary. > Magruder Family Genealogy Forum > http://genforum.genealogy.com/Magruder/messages/1126.html > Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of > Alexander) > Posted by: Peter McManus (ID *****7688) Date: June 18, 2003 at 05:59:50 > Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of > Alexander the immigrant) > Official records show a close relationship between the Magruder, Mills and > Willett families in colonial Maryland. > 1. At William Mills death in 1676, his will (Calvert County) names wife > Tabitha, > sons William Jr. and John and unnamed daughters. Overseers of the estate > were > Alexander Magruder, Samuel Tayler and Ninian Beall. One of the witnesses > to the > will was Richard Chaffey. > 2. In 1677 when Alexander Magruder died his will named almost the same set > of > overseers: Samuel Taylor, Ninian Beall and Nathaniel Truman. > 3. Tabitha, widow of William Mills, remarried to Thomas Blanford. Thomas > Blanford's will of 1698 (Prince George's County) names as overseers: > Samuel > Magruder, William Mills (Tabitha's son), and Edward Willett (husband of > Tabitha's daughter, Tabitha Mills). > 4. Richard Chaffey, a witness to the will of William Mills Sr. has his > will > proved in 1698 (PGC). Overseers were Samuel Magruder and Edward Willett. > 5. Samuel Magruder, Edward Willett and a John Smith were asked in the will > of > Thomas Sprigg Sr. to divide the residue of his estate in 1704 (PGC) > Connections > here somehow. Thomas Sprigg's daughter, Eleanor, married Thomas Hilleary. > When > Thomas Hilleary died, William Mills Jr signed the inventory as next of > kin. > 6. Samuel Magruder's own will of 1711 (PGC) was witnesses by Edward > Willett, > Tabitha Willett (Edward's wife) and an Ann Smith > 7. Benjamin Berry, in his will of 1719 (PGC) named as overseers: Samuel > Magruder > Jr., Thomas Hilleary Jr., Edward Willett and John Clagett. Benjamin > Berry's wife > was Mary Hilleary, brother to Thomas Jr. > 9. Anchovie Hills, the home plantation of Alexander Magruder, bordered > Trenant, > the home plantation of William Mills Sr. > 10. Samuel and Sarah named a son William and had a grandson by their son > Samuel, > named William Mills Magruder. > To play devil's advocate, both Samuel Magruder and Edward Willett were PGC > officals. It might be expected that they would be asked to witness county > documents. Still, all wills where they were overseers together seem to > have a > family connection and neither acted as overseer alone in the probate > records of > the county. > So, I think, but can not prove, that Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder, was > the > daughter of William Mills Sr. and his wife, Tabitha > Comments? > Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son > of > Alexander > Posted by: Fredric Z. Saunders (ID *****6091) Date: June 20, 2003 at > 21:35:42 > In Reply to: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel > Magruder > (son of Alexander) by Peter McManus > Interesting thoughts. > In doing an Internet search, I found that Ann Whalen in a copyrighted 2000 > article at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwcogs/famhist/Willett.html > in approaching from the Willet side speculated the same thing. For > children of > William Mills and Tabitha Hilleary she listed: "Sarah Mill who married > Samuel > McGruder (not proven)." > To add a couple pieces to what you listed: > In his will, Samuel Magruder named as overseers his brother Alexander > Magruder, > brother Nathaniel Magruder, and brother John Pottinger. Now, if Samuel's > wife > Sarah was Sarah Mills, the most likely way that he would call John > Pottinger > (Pottenger) "brother" is if Pottinger's wife Mary was a sister to Sarah. > For the > other theoritical possibilities, Samuel Magruder had no sister Mary to be > the > wife of John Pottinger. While John Pottinger did have a sister named Sarah > in > England, there is no evidence that she ever went to America to be Samuel > Magruder's wife. > If Sarah was a Mills, then it would also be likely that John Pottenger's > wife > Mary was a Mills. > 1. When Thomas Blanford's inventory was taken, the appraisers were Samuell > Magruder and John Pottenger. Under the theory, Blanford would have been > the > step-father of both their wives. [MD Inventories and Accounts 16:108] > 2. William Mills, Jr.'s administration account in 1706 showed a payment to > "John > Pottinger for the use of Martha Blanford." [MD Inventories and Accounts > 26:136] > If the children of Thomas Blanford were named in order in his will, Martha > was > the youngest. If the children were born about every two years after > Tabitha > (widow Mills) married Thomas Blanford, then Martha was probably born about > 1686-1690. One implication of the payment to John Pottinger for Martha > Blanford > would be that Martha was living with his family. With both her parents > dead, a > logical place that Martha, a single age 16-20 year old female, would live > would > be with one of her [half]-sisters under this theory. > For your #10, I have not followed the Magruder family. Can you tell me the > document which shows the grandson of Samuel and Sarah with the middle name > Mills? Thanks > Rick Saunders > Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son > of > Alexan > Posted by: Peter McManus (ID *****7688) Date: June 21, 2003 at 07:13:37 > In Reply to: Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel > Magruder (son of Alexan by Fredric Z. Saunders > Rick, thanks for your response. I've read your article on Ninian Beall, > and as a > descendant (through George) I appreciate your work. > I have two sources for the name William Mills Magruder. They are, however, > both > from transcripts. > 1) The will of Samuel Magruder (son of Samuel and Sarah, husband of > Eleanor > Wade) was written Jan. 30, 1739 (no double year notation in the > transcript) and > proved in Montgomery County on Feb. 9, 1779. He is called a planter of > Prince > George's County and many people give his death date as in 1779. Myself, I > wonder > if he died sometime soon after writing his will in 1739, before the > creation of > Frederick or Montgomery Counties and his will was not recorded at the > time. > Forty years is a long time to leave a will untouched. In the will he names > wife > Eleanor, sons Elias, Alexander, Josias, William Mills, Samuel, Zachariah > and > daughters Eleanor, Lucey and Elizabeth Spencer. Liber A, folio 81. > 2) The will of Robert Magruder (son of Samuel Magruder and Eleanor Wade, > husband > of Sarah Crabb) was written Mar. 2, 1735/36 and proved in Prince George's > County > Jun. 23, 1736. He names wife, Sarah, daughter Eleanor, brother Elias, > nephew > Samuel Magruder. The witnesses to the will were: Samuel Magruder (prob. > brother), Andrew Scott, John Haswell (brother Samuel married Jane Haswell) > and > William Mill Magruder. Folio 262. > I've seen people use the statement in Samuel Sr.'s will "brother John > Pottinger" > to prove two unreconcilable facts at the same time: that Sarah and Mary, > wife of > John Pottinger were sisters (and lots of people still assign them to > Ninian. Why > do people think they're Bealls?) and that John married second to Samuel's > sister, Elizabeth named in his father's will (under 14 years of age in > 1677). I > haven't found any indication that John remarried to an Elizabeth yet. I've > been > checking deeds for a dower release. There is no recorded deed surviving > but > Elizabeth's inherited property ended up with her brothers. I think > Elizabeth > probably died unmarried. My post previous to this one has to do with > Samuel and > his siblings ages. > Peter > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/24/2007 06:33:27
    1. Re: [MDCHARLE] The wives of Samuel Magruder and John Pottenger
    2. Norma Lundgren
    3. Not in either the transcription nor abstraction that I have. The part you have sectioned off reads "Verlinda, Mary and Eliza" ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Michael Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] The wives of Samuel Magruder and John Pottenger > There is an Elinor mentioned in the Will of Samuel Magruder: > > > In the name of God, Amen. I, Samuel Magruder of Prince Georges County in > the Province of Maryland --- > > Impremus, it is my will and pleasure in this my last Will and Testament that > all my funeral charges and also all other just Debts due to and from me to > any person or persons by Bill or otherwise howsoever be fully and honestley > paid without Suit or Settler of Law by my well beloved wife Sary Magruder > whom I do ... and appoint and ordaine to be my sole Executor over my whole > estate. > > First I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Sary Magruder my now Dwelling > plantation and the Land belonging unto it during her whole life to ... have > ... and make use of to the best of her advantage and after her decease I > give and bequeath unto my son Samuel Magruder the said plantation with two > hundred acres of Land belonging to it being the uppermost part of a tract of > land called "Good Luck" to him and his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Samuel Magruder one hundred acres of > Land it being called by the name of "Magruders Delight" and the plantation > belonging to it unto him and his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Ninian Magruder a plantation that was > my Brother John Magruder's and three hundred acres of Land belonging unto it > being the uppermost part of a tract of land called "Alexandria" unto him and > his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son John Magruder the tract of land called > "Dumblane" with the plantation and two hundred and fifty acres of land > belonging unto it unto him and his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son James Magruder the plantation that > John Colle lives on and three hundred acres of land belonging unto it unto > him and his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son William Magruder all that tract of > Land called "Turkey Cock Branch" with one hundred and ninety-three acres of > Land belonging unto it unto him and his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Alexander Magruder one hundred acres > of land it being part of a track of Land called "Good Luck" unto him and his > heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Alexander Magruder the eighth part of > the Pertuxson Merchant Ship unto him and his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Alexander Magruder tenn (hhds) of > Tobacco for to be shipped home this yeare and with the produce for to buy a > piece of land for him. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Nathaniel Magruder one hundred acres > of land it being part of a track of Land called "Good Luck" unto him and his > heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Nathaniel Magruder the eighth part of > the Purtuxson Merchant Ship unto him and his heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Nathaniel Magruder tenn (hhds) of > Tobacco for to be shipped home this yeare and with the produce for to buy a > piece of land for him. > > Item: My will is that if one other of my sons Samuel, Ninian, John, James, > William, Alexander or Nathaniel Magruder shall dye without issue that then > the deceased his land to be equallly devided between the other six brothers. > > Item: my will is that my five sons John, James, William, Alexander and > Nathaniel Magruder shall work for themselves at the age of sixteen years. > > Item: I will and bequeath one third part of my personal estate unto my > loveing wife Sary Magruder. > > Item: I will and bequeath unto my two darters Elizabeth Magruder and Sary > Magruder ten pound for to buy them a gowne and petty cotte. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Item: I will and bequeath unto my five sons John, James, William, Alexander > and Nathaniel Magruder and my three darturs Verlinder, Mary and Eliner > Magruder the two thirds of my Personale Estate unto them and their heirs > forever. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Item: I give and bequeath unto my sons Samuel, Ninian and John Magruder one > lot at Marlborough Town containing one acres of land the Lot number forty > eight unto them and their heirs forever. > > Item: I give and bequeath unto my four sons James, William, Alexander and > Nathaniel Magruder one lot of land at Marlborough Town containing one acres > of Land the lott number three unto them and their heirs forever. > > Item: my will is that what goods I have sent for out of England should be > accounted of as my Personale Estate and my dear Wife for to have her thirds > of them and do order and appoint my Brother Alexander Magruder and my > brother Nathaniel Magruder and my brother John Pottenger to be overseers of > this my last will and testament and lastly I do ordaine this to be my laste > will and all other formerly made to be void and of none effect as witness my > hand and seale this twenty third day of November in the year of our lord God > one thousand seven hundred ten. > > Witnesses: Edwd Willett, Tabitha Willett, Ann Smith > Samuel Magruder Sr. > > > Cheers, Michael > Kent Island, Maryland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:21 PM > Subject: [MDCHARLE] The wives of Samuel Magruder and John Pottenger > > >>I am going to post this in three pieces since the list has taken to >>bouncing >> long messages if the administrator doesn't approve their being posted as >> the St >> Mary's County list administrator has explained. I will wait for the first >> part >> to show up, then "answer" with the second, etc. >> >> >> Hi, List, >> For several years, there has been controversy about the wives of John >> Pottenger >> and Samuel Magruder. I have come to believe that Peter McManus is on to >> something and that Mary and Sarah were probably daughters of William Mills >> and >> Tabitha Hilleary. Following is the many (and often confusing) items I have >> collected disproving that they were daughters of Ninian Beall, and showing >> that >> they might be Sarah Pottenger and Mary Mullikin, as well as the arguments >> for >> them to be the Mills sisters: >> >> First the argument for the Mills Sisters: >> >> The probable birthdate of Eleanor Magruder, the wife of Nehemiah Wade is >> the >> most convincing argument against Sarah Pottenger, born 1659, being the >> wife of >> Samuel Magruder (1660-1711) and in favor of the Sarah Mills, born 1670, >> favored >> by (I think) Linda Reno. Eleanor Magruder was most likely born after the >> 23 Nov >> 1710 will of her father and possibly after his death which was before his >> 16 Apr >> 1711 probate. Eleanor isn't mentioned in her father's will but is given as >> a >> daughter of Samuel and Sarah Magruder and the wife of Nehemiah Wade in the >> 16 >> Jan 1731/32 will of her mother, Sarah Magruder. Nehemiah Wade was born >> about >> 1705, and Eleanor and he were married about 1729. >> >> If John Pottenger's wife truly was Mary Mullikin, would Elizabeth >> (Mullikin) >> Hartup have gotten the whole of the estate of their half-brother James >> Williams >> per the following? (James Williams had already given land to James >> Mullikin.) >> Prince George's County deed book M, page 222, in 1726, John Demall age 70 >> gave a >> deposition regarding 100 acres of "Wood's Joy" formerly in Charles Co. and >> James >> Williams and his son James. James Williams died without bequest so the 100 >> acres >> went to Richard Hartrup by his wife Elizabeth, who was a sister to James >> Mullikin, deceased, father of James Mullikin. James Mullikin, deceased, >> and >> Elizabeth were children of James Mullikin and his wife Mary. >> Magruder Family Genealogy Forum >> http://genforum.genealogy.com/Magruder/messages/1126.html >> Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of >> Alexander) >> Posted by: Peter McManus (ID *****7688) Date: June 18, 2003 at 05:59:50 >> Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son of >> Alexander the immigrant) >> Official records show a close relationship between the Magruder, Mills and >> Willett families in colonial Maryland. >> 1. At William Mills death in 1676, his will (Calvert County) names wife >> Tabitha, >> sons William Jr. and John and unnamed daughters. Overseers of the estate >> were >> Alexander Magruder, Samuel Tayler and Ninian Beall. One of the witnesses >> to the >> will was Richard Chaffey. >> 2. In 1677 when Alexander Magruder died his will named almost the same set >> of >> overseers: Samuel Taylor, Ninian Beall and Nathaniel Truman. >> 3. Tabitha, widow of William Mills, remarried to Thomas Blanford. Thomas >> Blanford's will of 1698 (Prince George's County) names as overseers: >> Samuel >> Magruder, William Mills (Tabitha's son), and Edward Willett (husband of >> Tabitha's daughter, Tabitha Mills). >> 4. Richard Chaffey, a witness to the will of William Mills Sr. has his >> will >> proved in 1698 (PGC). Overseers were Samuel Magruder and Edward Willett. >> 5. Samuel Magruder, Edward Willett and a John Smith were asked in the will >> of >> Thomas Sprigg Sr. to divide the residue of his estate in 1704 (PGC) >> Connections >> here somehow. Thomas Sprigg's daughter, Eleanor, married Thomas Hilleary. >> When >> Thomas Hilleary died, William Mills Jr signed the inventory as next of >> kin. >> 6. Samuel Magruder's own will of 1711 (PGC) was witnesses by Edward >> Willett, >> Tabitha Willett (Edward's wife) and an Ann Smith >> 7. Benjamin Berry, in his will of 1719 (PGC) named as overseers: Samuel >> Magruder >> Jr., Thomas Hilleary Jr., Edward Willett and John Clagett. Benjamin >> Berry's wife >> was Mary Hilleary, brother to Thomas Jr. >> 9. Anchovie Hills, the home plantation of Alexander Magruder, bordered >> Trenant, >> the home plantation of William Mills Sr. >> 10. Samuel and Sarah named a son William and had a grandson by their son >> Samuel, >> named William Mills Magruder. >> To play devil's advocate, both Samuel Magruder and Edward Willett were PGC >> officals. It might be expected that they would be asked to witness county >> documents. Still, all wills where they were overseers together seem to >> have a >> family connection and neither acted as overseer alone in the probate >> records of >> the county. >> So, I think, but can not prove, that Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder, was >> the >> daughter of William Mills Sr. and his wife, Tabitha >> Comments? >> Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son >> of >> Alexander >> Posted by: Fredric Z. Saunders (ID *****6091) Date: June 20, 2003 at >> 21:35:42 >> In Reply to: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel >> Magruder >> (son of Alexander) by Peter McManus >> Interesting thoughts. >> In doing an Internet search, I found that Ann Whalen in a copyrighted 2000 >> article at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnwcogs/famhist/Willett.html >> in approaching from the Willet side speculated the same thing. For >> children of >> William Mills and Tabitha Hilleary she listed: "Sarah Mill who married >> Samuel >> McGruder (not proven)." >> To add a couple pieces to what you listed: >> In his will, Samuel Magruder named as overseers his brother Alexander >> Magruder, >> brother Nathaniel Magruder, and brother John Pottinger. Now, if Samuel's >> wife >> Sarah was Sarah Mills, the most likely way that he would call John >> Pottinger >> (Pottenger) "brother" is if Pottinger's wife Mary was a sister to Sarah. >> For the >> other theoritical possibilities, Samuel Magruder had no sister Mary to be >> the >> wife of John Pottinger. While John Pottinger did have a sister named Sarah >> in >> England, there is no evidence that she ever went to America to be Samuel >> Magruder's wife. >> If Sarah was a Mills, then it would also be likely that John Pottenger's >> wife >> Mary was a Mills. >> 1. When Thomas Blanford's inventory was taken, the appraisers were Samuell >> Magruder and John Pottenger. Under the theory, Blanford would have been >> the >> step-father of both their wives. [MD Inventories and Accounts 16:108] >> 2. William Mills, Jr.'s administration account in 1706 showed a payment to >> "John >> Pottinger for the use of Martha Blanford." [MD Inventories and Accounts >> 26:136] >> If the children of Thomas Blanford were named in order in his will, Martha >> was >> the youngest. If the children were born about every two years after >> Tabitha >> (widow Mills) married Thomas Blanford, then Martha was probably born about >> 1686-1690. One implication of the payment to John Pottinger for Martha >> Blanford >> would be that Martha was living with his family. With both her parents >> dead, a >> logical place that Martha, a single age 16-20 year old female, would live >> would >> be with one of her [half]-sisters under this theory. >> For your #10, I have not followed the Magruder family. Can you tell me the >> document which shows the grandson of Samuel and Sarah with the middle name >> Mills? Thanks >> Rick Saunders >> Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel Magruder (son >> of >> Alexan >> Posted by: Peter McManus (ID *****7688) Date: June 21, 2003 at 07:13:37 >> In Reply to: Re: Speculation on the birth family of Sarah, wife of Samuel >> Magruder (son of Alexan by Fredric Z. Saunders >> Rick, thanks for your response. I've read your article on Ninian Beall, >> and as a >> descendant (through George) I appreciate your work. >> I have two sources for the name William Mills Magruder. They are, however, >> both >> from transcripts. >> 1) The will of Samuel Magruder (son of Samuel and Sarah, husband of >> Eleanor >> Wade) was written Jan. 30, 1739 (no double year notation in the >> transcript) and >> proved in Montgomery County on Feb. 9, 1779. He is called a planter of >> Prince >> George's County and many people give his death date as in 1779. Myself, I >> wonder >> if he died sometime soon after writing his will in 1739, before the >> creation of >> Frederick or Montgomery Counties and his will was not recorded at the >> time. >> Forty years is a long time to leave a will untouched. In the will he names >> wife >> Eleanor, sons Elias, Alexander, Josias, William Mills, Samuel, Zachariah >> and >> daughters Eleanor, Lucey and Elizabeth Spencer. Liber A, folio 81. >> 2) The will of Robert Magruder (son of Samuel Magruder and Eleanor Wade, >> husband >> of Sarah Crabb) was written Mar. 2, 1735/36 and proved in Prince George's >> County >> Jun. 23, 1736. He names wife, Sarah, daughter Eleanor, brother Elias, >> nephew >> Samuel Magruder. The witnesses to the will were: Samuel Magruder (prob. >> brother), Andrew Scott, John Haswell (brother Samuel married Jane Haswell) >> and >> William Mill Magruder. Folio 262. >> I've seen people use the statement in Samuel Sr.'s will "brother John >> Pottinger" >> to prove two unreconcilable facts at the same time: that Sarah and Mary, >> wife of >> John Pottinger were sisters (and lots of people still assign them to >> Ninian. Why >> do people think they're Bealls?) and that John married second to Samuel's >> sister, Elizabeth named in his father's will (under 14 years of age in >> 1677). I >> haven't found any indication that John remarried to an Elizabeth yet. I've >> been >> checking deeds for a dower release. There is no recorded deed surviving >> but >> Elizabeth's inherited property ended up with her brothers. I think >> Elizabeth >> probably died unmarried. My post previous to this one has to do with >> Samuel and >> his siblings ages. >> Peter >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

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