For Lorie: Short answer: NO. I have not found proof of forebears of Wiliam Hungerford (born 1634) who married Anne Smoot. However, that being said, there has to have been a William Hungerford, senior, as William Hungerford came into Maryland 1646 and on 7 April 1648 he demanded 100 acres for transporting himself in 1646 and again another 100 acres for transporting himself in 1647. On 2 January 1646/47 he swore fealty to the Proprietary (MD Archives iii 174) and 29 Feb. 1647/8 William Hungerford and others petitioned for themselves and "severall soldiers against the estate of Mrs. Margaret Brent for their wages." 9MD Archives i, 226). There are other mentions of him in this time frame. Also may have removed to Virginia as a result of Ingles Rebellion and come back into MD in 1647 and thus gained another right of entry. The point of the above being that this could not be the William Hungerford born 1634 as he would only be 12-14 yrs. old in 1646/47/48. Some references refer to a William H., wife Ann, father of William 1634, but I have found no good proof. I also cannot find any William on a ship coming into Maryland. As the Hungerfords were so closely allied to the Smoot family, and the Smoots came from Charles City, VA, my thought is perhaps the Hungerford immigrant came into VA also. Again, no proof. In England, there were five branches of the Hungerford family, all originating from Farleigh-Hungerford Castle. You might take a look at the web page of Julie Neel. Roots Web World Connect Project: Neel, Black Landers, Cantrell. Julie Neel E-mail [email protected] I corresponded with her once about a year ago and she said she would send me her proofs and I have not heard back. She has William of Maryland descending from the Anthony Hungerford family of Down Ampney, England. This made sense and corresponded to what I had decided (with no proof at all) just from the book published in England on the Milward-Oliver family. (50 copies, and I have one). Anyway, it is a starting point. I would love to see someone pursue this. Who is your Hungerford ancestor? I wish I could be of more help but this is where I am with it. Anne Johnson

Anne Johnson [[email protected]] wrote: > I have not found proof of forebears of William Hungerford >(born 1634) who married Anne Smoot. However, that being said, there has to >have been a William Hungerford, senior, as William Hungerford came into >Maryland 1646 and on 7 April 1648 he demanded 100 acres for transporting >himself in 1646 and again another 100 acres for transporting himself in >1647. On 2 January 1646/47 he swore fealty to the Proprietary (MD Archives >iii 174) and 29 Feb. 1647/8 William Hungerford and others petitioned for >themselves and "severall soldiers against the estate of Mrs. Margaret Brent >for their wages." 9MD Archives i, 226). There are other mentions of him in >this time frame. Also may have removed to Virginia as a result of Ingles >Rebellion and come back into MD in 1647 and thus gained another right of >entry. >The point of the above being that this could not be the William Hungerford >born 1634 as he would only be 12-14 yrs. old in 1646/47/48. ============== Hi Anne, I believe that all the first records you list apply to William HUNGERFORD who married Anne SMOOT. The question is not how could these apply to a person 12-14 years old, but what evidence is there that William HUNGERFORD was born in 1634? I am not aware of any. If you do know of such a record, please share it. I believe that the William who married Anne SMOOT was probably born in the mid 1620s. As to references to the parents of William HUNGERFORD who married Anne SMOOT being a William HUNGERFORD and Ann, I believe this is a confusing of records and trying to make a William and Ann the parents of William who married Anne SMOOT (in other words, making him and his wife his own parents) because of a belief in a 1634 birth. I don't see that there has been any DNA testing done on HUNGERFORD. At least, there is only one person listed at http://www.familytreedna.com/ Maybe we should locate HUNGERFORD descendants of William, as well as some of those English lines, and see if there is a common ancestor. Rick Saunders http://home.netcom.com/~fzsaund/hungerford.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/734 - Release Date: 3/26/2007 2:31 PM

Rick: As I said--I would love for someone to pursue this and get it correct. The 1634 birth date for William has floated around ever since I started looking into the Hungerfords. Like you, I have never seen proof of it yet it won't go away. I finally decided IF he was born 1634, there would have to be a William before him as one finds on some of the Internet sites a William/Anne. I have not entered that into my charts because there is no proof--but where does it come from? The Web page I mentioned makes an arguement along those lines but I have received no proof, despite asking for it. One curious item I came across today while looking to see if I could pin the prior William on someone, was the statement that Humphrey Attwicks refers to his "sister-in-law Anne Hungerford" on August 12, 1661 (Maryland Archives--again no documentation.) Attwicks was married to Anne's sister, Elizabeth, according to Harry Wright Newman in his book on the Smoot family. It has always been my understanding that Anne Smoot Hungerford was married to William Barton by late 1658 as their daughter, Grace, was born Aug. 1, 1659 and lived only one month. Have I got this right? I always thought Wiliam Hungerford died in 1658. That is correct, isn't it? As you know, I am always glad to be corrected--I just want it right. I have male cousins (in their 40s) in direct descent from William but I don't think they have enough interest to do any DNA testing. Anne Hungerford Johnson

For Anne & Rick: I have always believed that the Wm Hungerford in the mid 1640s records was the same William who married Anne Smoot. Below is a court document you may have already seen: "Mar 1670. Another suit in which both Nehemiah Blakiston and Mrs. John Legett appear, came before the March, 1669/70, court. William Smoot, a large land- owner, who owned land which the Rev. John Legett had purchased, sued a certain Thomas Thorowgood, to whom he said he had given a boat, a cow, and a heifer, to teach a youth, William Hungerford, the son of Mrs. Legett, how "to write & Cast Accts.", and that Thorowgood had gone away and failed to do so. The latter denied that he had made such a bargain, either with Smoot or with Mrs. Legett, the youth's mother, and declared that while he was away Mr. Blakiston had taught him; the court granted a nonsuit (p. 247; Arch. Md. LIII, 251, 599). This indicates that Mrs. Bridgett Legett was the widow of William Hungerford, Sr., when she married John Legett, and that she had a son William Hungerford, Jr. (Maryland State Archives, Vol 60 Pg Preface 42 ) William Smoote plt came to prosecute the suite by him Commenced agt Thoms Thorowgood Thoms Thorowgood Deft came also & Appeared to defd the suite comenced agt him by Wm Smoote Wm Smoot Plt Thoms Thorowgood Deft And whereupon the sd plt Complaineth agt the sd Thoms for tht whereas the sd Thoms did in the xxxvii yeare of the Dominion of Caecilius 1668 agree & faithfully promise unto the sd William tht is to say tht he the sd Thomas would well & truly teach Wm Hungerford to write & Cast Accts in Consideracon whereof the sd WiTh did pay unto him the sd Thoms one boate of foureteene foot by the Keele one Cow & one yearleing Heifer Yet notwthstanding the sd Thoms his sd obligacon & agreemt little regarding but minding & fraudulently intending him the sd Witti of the sd boate & Cattle to deceive neither hath performed his sd agreemt but shortly after goeing out of the Country the sd youth negligently did leave un- taught & now doth altogether refuse to make him the sd William any reparacon whereby the sd Wm sth he is damnified to the Valew of 2900 lb of tob & thereupon he bringeth his suite Whereupon the Deft replied tht the plt never made any bargaine him for to teach the sd youth his mother Mrs Legatt & tht wn he was out of the Country Mr Blakiston did teach the M youth. And hereupon the Court found noe Cause of Action Therefore It was ordered tht a Nonsuite pass agt the Plt wth Costs & chargs of suite, whereupon the Deft prefered this bill of Cost wch was allowed him 3 daies Attendance 30 90 2 Witness 3 daies aps 30 180 A nonsuite 050 320. (Maryland State Archives, Vol 60 Pg 247 )" Note on the above. I have found no evidence that William Sr. was married to a Bridgett and we know that the widow of William Hungerford Sr. was Anne Smoot. The only conclusion is that Bridgett Leggett was the Foster Mother or Godmother to William Hungerford Jr. The name Bridget really stood out for me, since that is a name common in the Down Ampney Hungerfords. I wonder if Bridget, rather than being a Hungerford by marriage, was a Hungerford by birth. This may be a clue to the English origins of William Hungerford Sr. Any other thoughts on the above? I descend from William & Anne (Smoot) Hungerford through their grandaughter Elizabeth Hungerford who married John Neal in Charles county. Lorie Kerns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Johnson Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Roll Call For Lorie: Short answer: NO. I have not found proof of forebears of Wiliam Hungerford (born 1634) who married Anne Smoot. However, that being said, there has to have been a William Hungerford, senior, as William Hungerford came into Maryland 1646 and on 7 April 1648 he demanded 100 acres for transporting himself in 1646 and again another 100 acres for transporting himself in 1647. On 2 January 1646/47 he swore fealty to the Proprietary (MD Archives iii 174) and 29 Feb. 1647/8 William Hungerford and others petitioned for themselves and "severall soldiers against the estate of Mrs. Margaret Brent for their wages." 9MD Archives i, 226). There are other mentions of him in this time frame. Also may have removed to Virginia as a result of Ingles Rebellion and come back into MD in 1647 and thus gained another right of entry. The point of the above being that this could not be the William Hungerford born 1634 as he would only be 12-14 yrs. old in 1646/47/48. Some references refer to a William H., wife Ann, father of William 1634, but I have found no good proof. I also cannot find any William on a ship coming into Maryland. As the Hungerfords were so closely allied to the Smoot family, and the Smoots came from Charles City, VA, my thought is perhaps the Hungerford immigrant came into VA also. Again, no proof. In England, there were five branches of the Hungerford family, all originating from Farleigh-Hungerford Castle. You might take a look at the web page of Julie Neel. Roots Web World Connect Project: Neel, Black Landers, Cantrell. Julie Neel E-mail [email protected] I corresponded with her once about a year ago and she said she would send me her proofs and I have not heard back. She has William of Maryland descending from the Anthony Hungerford family of Down Ampney, England. This made sense and corresponded to what I had decided (with no proof at all) just from the book published in England on the Milward-Oliver family. (50 copies, and I have one). Anyway, it is a starting point. I would love to see someone pursue this. Who is your Hungerford ancestor? I wish I could be of more help but this is where I am with it. Anne Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message