I know I have seen records on Henry Hardy and Elinor Compton and a record on Henry Hardy maried to Ann Ashman, daughte of Richard Ashman but didn't know if it was the same Henry Hardy. Marianne Dillow [email protected]

That is the Ann that is mentioned in Henry's will, Ann was married to Richard Ashman before Henry and after Henry she married Wm Forster. See wills below..... Shirley Middleton Moller MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 4 Forster, William, gent.,Charles Co.,17th Apr., 1717; 25th May, 1717. Wife Ann, extx., and hrs., 150 A., "St. Edmonds," and residue of estate. Test: Wm. Howard, Rich. Ashman, John Ashman. 14. 334. Ann's Will MARYLAND CALENDAR OF WILLS: Volume 4 Foester, Ann, widow,Charles Co.,10th Oct., 1717; 13th Dec., 1717. To son John Ashman and to dau. Mary, wife of Richard Ankrum, 150 A., "St. Edmonds," lying at Portobacco and formerly in poss. of Wm. Foester, testator's deceased husband, to be equally divided bet. them. Son John lacking issue, land to pass to the hrs. of dau. Mary afsd. To son Richard Ashman, personalty. To granddau. Ann Oliover, personalty. To James Penny, personalty, and to the rest -- of grandchild., personalty. The legacies to child. of Mary Ankrum being delivered from plant. at Portobacco. Residue of estate to be divided equally among test. 3 sons, John and Rich. Ashman and Rich. Ankrum, who are named as exs. Test: Walter Story, Wm. Puttneck, Charity Thompson. 14. 424. Test. directs that whatever is due to Henry Hardy, a legatee under will of her former husband, Henry Hardy, shall remain in hands of her son Rich. Ashman till sent for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: [MDCHARLE] HENRY HARDY and ELINOR COMPTON > Thanks Shirley for sending the info on Henry Hardy and 1st wife Elinor > Compton. I have seen this before but wasn't there also another marriage > between a Henry Hardy and Ashman lady. Is that the 2nd marriage ?? > Marianne Dillow > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Shirley for sending the info on Henry Hardy and 1st wife Elinor Compton. I have seen this before but wasn't there also another marriage between a Henry Hardy and Ashman lady. Is that the 2nd marriage ?? Marianne Dillow [email protected]

Marianne, I'm not sure if you have this info on Henry's 1st marriage so I thought I would pass on the following to you. Maryland Marriages, 1634-1777, Maryland Marriages, 1634-1777, Page 79 Hardy, Henry, of Pyckawaxon, 21 Aug. 1694, Elinor, dau. of John Compton, of St. Mary's County. Henry's first wife was Eleanor Compton d/o John Compton that died bef 5th Mar., 1718 in St. Mary's Co., MD. Shirley Middleton Moller ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [MDCHARLE] HARDY FAMILIES in LEICSETERSHIRE, ENGLAND to CHARLES COUNTY > In the Will of Henry Hardy in Charles County in 1714 it names his kinsman > Henry, son of George Hardy, and hrs., of Loughborow, Lessester County > (spelling should be Loughborough, Leicestershire County ) in England., > residue of personalty and land afsd. Should dau. Ann die without issue and > he dying without issue, to pass to his brother George and hrs, and > successively to the family of Hardy and to next of kin. > Wife : Ann > Exs : Philip Briscoe and son John Briscoe > Overseer : Walter Story > > A few days ago I received from Leicestershire County, England the > following : > > (1) Henry Hardye Family married Anne Hall Family 2 Feb 1638 Loughborough, > Leicester, England. > > (2) Henry Hardye Christening 5 Nov 1687, All Saints, Loughborough, > Leicester, England. Father: George Hardy family. > I believe these individuals to be the Hardy heirs in Henry Hardy's Will > in 1714. > > Today, I found the following Hardy records in Gaddesby, Leicestershire, > England, approximately 10-15 miles from Loughborough, Leicestershire, > England. > > All records in Gaddesby, Leicestershire, England : > > (1) Robert Hardy > Born : Abt 1544 > Married 23 Sep 1569 to Marion Graye born Abt 1548. > > Their son : John Hardy > Born : Abt 1570 > Died : Bef 7 Oct 1616 > Married : Abt 1595 to Isabel unlnown born Abt 1575 > > Their Son : Thomas Hardy > Born : Abt 1597 > Married : Abt 1632 Elizabeth unknown born Abt 1602. > > Their children as follows : > > (1) Isabel Hardie > Born : 1635 > Christened : 4 Sep 1635 > > (2) George Hardie > Born : 1637 > Christened : 31 Jan 1637 > > (3) and (4) must be twins : > > (3) Thomas Hardie > Born : 1639 > Christened : 20 Sep 1639 > > (4) Isabel Hardie > Born : 1639 > Christened : 21 Sep 1639 > > Also, in Markfield, Leicestershire, England : > > George Hardy : > Born : 1775/76 > Died : 26 Dec 1844 > Married : Sarah Cooper 13 Oct 1800 > Children were named : Henry, Rebecca, Elizabeth, Ann, George, and John. > > Markfield is close to Gaddesby and Loughborough in Leicestershire, > England. > The County Hall of Leicestershire County is in Glenfield. > > I wanted to share this information to those on the list. > Marianne Dillow > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the Will of Henry Hardy in Charles County in 1714 it names his kinsman Henry, son of George Hardy, and hrs., of Loughborow, Lessester County (spelling should be Loughborough, Leicestershire County ) in England., residue of personalty and land afsd. Should dau. Ann die without issue and he dying without issue, to pass to his brother George and hrs, and successively to the family of Hardy and to next of kin. Wife : Ann Exs : Philip Briscoe and son John Briscoe Overseer : Walter Story A few days ago I received from Leicestershire County, England the following : (1) Henry Hardye Family married Anne Hall Family 2 Feb 1638 Loughborough, Leicester, England. (2) Henry Hardye Christening 5 Nov 1687, All Saints, Loughborough, Leicester, England. Father: George Hardy family. I believe these individuals to be the Hardy heirs in Henry Hardy's Will in 1714. Today, I found the following Hardy records in Gaddesby, Leicestershire, England, approximately 10-15 miles from Loughborough, Leicestershire, England. All records in Gaddesby, Leicestershire, England : (1) Robert Hardy Born : Abt 1544 Married 23 Sep 1569 to Marion Graye born Abt 1548. Their son : John Hardy Born : Abt 1570 Died : Bef 7 Oct 1616 Married : Abt 1595 to Isabel unlnown born Abt 1575 Their Son : Thomas Hardy Born : Abt 1597 Married : Abt 1632 Elizabeth unknown born Abt 1602. Their children as follows : (1) Isabel Hardie Born : 1635 Christened : 4 Sep 1635 (2) George Hardie Born : 1637 Christened : 31 Jan 1637 (3) and (4) must be twins : (3) Thomas Hardie Born : 1639 Christened : 20 Sep 1639 (4) Isabel Hardie Born : 1639 Christened : 21 Sep 1639 Also, in Markfield, Leicestershire, England : George Hardy : Born : 1775/76 Died : 26 Dec 1844 Married : Sarah Cooper 13 Oct 1800 Children were named : Henry, Rebecca, Elizabeth, Ann, George, and John. Markfield is close to Gaddesby and Loughborough in Leicestershire, England. The County Hall of Leicestershire County is in Glenfield. I wanted to share this information to those on the list. Marianne Dillow [email protected]

Hi, List, Does anyone know who was the ancestor of the people mentioned in the following deed: p. 159, TLC Genealogy, Charles County Land Records Book N#4 Page 197. Jan 10, 1794 from John McConchie, Mary Stone Jones, Mary Stone, Gerard Fowke, and Margery Fowke, his wife, of CC, to William Dement of CC, for 265 £, part of a tract of land called Market Overton, situated in CC, and bounded by Walter McPherson's part of Market Overton, the dividing boundary between Wade and Stone, containing 265 acres. Signed - John McConchie, Mary Stone Jones, Mary Stone, Gerard Fowke, Margery Fowke. Wit - Henry H Chapman*, James Freeman*. Recorded Jan 10, 1794. Any help gratefully accepted! Bye, Norma

Your welcome. Me, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Reno" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Mary Tant > Hi Norma, > > Thank you for going over the information for me. > > Sorry, I have only dribs and drabs on the Mackeys. > > Linda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Mary Tant > > >> Hi, Linda, >> >> I've looked this over, comparing it to the data that I have and I couldn't >> see >> that you missed anything. I don't have any data to contradict what you >> have, but >> it is very frustrating that I don't have more. >> >> Have you ever tried to sort out the Mackeys? I tried at one time, but I >> just >> didn't have the data to do it. >> >> Bye, >> Norma >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Norma, Thank you for going over the information for me. Sorry, I have only dribs and drabs on the Mackeys. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Mary Tant > Hi, Linda, > > I've looked this over, comparing it to the data that I have and I couldn't > see > that you missed anything. I don't have any data to contradict what you > have, but > it is very frustrating that I don't have more. > > Have you ever tried to sort out the Mackeys? I tried at one time, but I > just > didn't have the data to do it. > > Bye, > Norma > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Linda, I've looked this over, comparing it to the data that I have and I couldn't see that you missed anything. I don't have any data to contradict what you have, but it is very frustrating that I don't have more. Have you ever tried to sort out the Mackeys? I tried at one time, but I just didn't have the data to do it. Bye, Norma

Does anyone have information (birth, marriage, death) on the other 5 children of Ignatius Spalding and Ann Jameson: Henry, Mary Thomas b. abt 1740, d. 1806 Washington Co, KY Richard Jane Blanche I have information on Thomas. Thanks! Shirley ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: "Amanda Douglass" <[email protected]> To: "Arthur Kaye" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: William McConchie's will Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:00:25 +0000 Artie, Here's the will. I have a feeling that the William McConchie that was owed money from card game may be same one. Even though Newman says William died intestate, I just feel like this could be same one. Chapman handled Wm. McConchie's estate and Wm. owed Chapman and Wills money. Chapman got his money back from the sale of Wm.'s land but he was looking out for Mary and the children. I bet Chapman was trying to collect every cent he could for Mary and the children. I need to read more before I try to transcribe the loan made by Chapman and Wills, etc. Amanda -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- William McConchie's Will (Feb. 6, 1810) "In the name of God Amen, I William McConchie of Charles County and State of Maryland being sick and weak, but of sound and disposing mind, memory and understanding thanks to almighty God for all his mercies do make and ordain this my last will and testament. First, I give to my beloved wife during her life on third part of my land. I also give to my said wife on third part of all my personal Estate of whatsoever hind it may consist- Item I give and devise to my friend Samuel Chapman and to his heirs one third part of my land subject to the following trust and for the following uses and purposes To wit, that the said Land and the profits thereof shall belong to my Brother John McConchie during his life under the direction of the said Samuel Chapman his heirs, Executors or Administrators for the Benefit and advantage of my said Brother John and the said one third of my land herein before devised to the said Samuel Chapman. I devise to my children after the death of my said B! rother John to be equally divided between all my said children and their heirs forever. I give and devise to all my children and their heirs forever to be equally divided between them all the rest of my land and other property, the one third part of my land herein before devised to my wife to be equally divided after her death among my said children and their Heirs forever this 6th Feb. of 1810- Signed, Sealed published and declared by the testators as his last will and testament in the William McConchie (seal) presence of us, whom he has requested to witness the same which we accordingly do in his presence and in the presence of each other. H. H. Chapman John Taylor Alex. J. McConchie Charles County (?) March 5, 1810 Then came John Taylor one of the subscribing witnesses to the aforegoing last will and testament of William McConchie late of Charles County deceased and made oath on the Holy Evangely of Almighty God that he did see the testator herein named sign and seal this will that he heard him publish pronounce and declare the same to be his last will and testament that at the time of his sodoing he was to the best of his apprehension of sound and disposing mind memory and understanding and that he together with Henry H. Chapman and Alexander J. McConchie the other subscribing witnesses respectively subscribed their names as witnesses to this will in the presence and at the request of the testator and in the presence of each other- Seal Humphrey Barnes Reg. of Will Charles County (?) March 5th 1810 Then came Alexander Jones McConchie one of the subscribing witnesses to the aforegoing last will and testament of William McConchie late of Charles County deceased and made oath on the Holy Evangely of almighty God that he did see the testator therein named sign and seal this will that he heard him publish pronounce and declare the same to be his last will and testament that at the time of his sodoing he was to the best of his apprehension of sound and disposing mind, memory and understanding and that he together with Henry H. Chapman and John Taylor the subscribing witnesses respectively subscribed their names as witnesses to this will in the presence of each other. Seal Humphrey Barnes Reg. of Will " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So we know John was brother of William McConchie (I guessed that right!) We know Wm. had a daughter with middle name Jones We know an Alexander Jones McConchie had middle name of Jones. We don't know if Alexander Jones McConchie was a son of John but if John and William, Jr. were only two sons of William and Theodosia, then it's either John's son or somebody elses. Now, back to CCG book and February 4, 1814, Samuel Chapman filed suit in the court of chancery against Theodore Dent for $800 which had been owed to William McConchie by Francis Sheid. Newman says that McConchie had died intestate and letters of administration had been issued to Samuel Chapman. I wonder who this William McConchie was if he was not the same one with the will? Do you think Newman could have made a mistake about this point? What are letters of administration being issued to Samuel Chapman? Wonder if I can get those?

Hello Rick, Thank you for the clarification. A few words can make all the difference in the world. Back to the drawing board..... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fredric Z. Saunders Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MDCHARLE] Hungerford Hi Lorie, I thought that the case with William HUNGERFORD and Bridgett LEGGETT was discussed previously, but I can't seem to find it in the archives, so I it must be that I discussed it privately with someone in the past year or so. First, at the MD Archives site, click on the PDF version, as the printed version left out a couple of key words that are included in the PDF version, and are in the original record which I have previously examined. As for what the editors wrote in the preface about Mrs. Bridget LEGATT being the widow of William HUNGERFORD, Sr., and the mother of William HUNGERFORD, Jr., I believe they just plain interpreted the record wrong. For the PDF version of Vol. 60:247 http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001/000060/pdf/a m60--247.pdf to summarize the first part: William SMOOT was suing Thomas THOROWGOOD that he had contracted with THOROWGOOD to teach William HUNGERFORD to write, etc. THOROWGOOD left the country, and left William [HUNGERFORD] untaught. Now in the PDF version, it reads [spelling out the abbreviations] "Whereupon the Defendant replied that the plaintiff never made any bargain with him for to teach the said youth with his mother Mrs. Legatt & that when he was out of the Country Mr. BLAKISTON did teach the said youth." Note that the non PDF version left out the word _with_ in "said youth with his mother Mrs. LEGATT..." The phrase "to teach the said youth with his mother Mrs. LEGATT" is referring to Thomas THOROWGOOD's mother, not William HUNGERFORD's mother. It would make no sense that William SMOOT would bargain with Thomas THOROWGOOD in 1668 to have William HUNGERFORD's own mother/step-mother/foster-mother teach him. William SMOOT had the care of William HUNGERFORD in 1665, so there is no record of Bridget LEGATT ever having his care or being a foster mother. William SMOOT bargained with Thomas THOROWGOOD because he thought that THOROWGOOD's mother Mrs. Bridget LEGATT was going to teach William HUNGERFORD. THOROWGOOD stated that SMOOT hadn't bargained with him to have his [THOROWGOOD's] mother teach William HUNGERFORD, and that he had Mr. BLAKISTON teach him while he was out of the country. Rick Saunders -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 4:38 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a bit off topic, but I need some help. Rick, how do you manage to do any meaningful searching in the on-line Maryland Archives now that they have the Google search engine rather than the previous one which could be done by a date range, and/or a specific volume? Any hints would be distinctly appreciated! Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fredric Z. Saunders" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Hungerford > >Humphrey Attwicks refers to >>his "sister-in-law Anne Hungerford" >>on August 12, 1661 (Maryland >>Archives--again no documentation.) > > See 41:470 > http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001/000041/html/ > am41--470.html > > Humphrey ATTWICKS statement was made in 1661, but was made in regard to 4 or > 5 years ago, to his sister in law Anne HUNGERFORD, widow. > > We know at was at least 3 years ago (1658). It is possible that it was 4 or > 5, but also possible it was just a faulty memory. > > Rick Saunders > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 > 4:38 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

For Anne & Rick: I have always believed that the Wm Hungerford in the mid 1640s records was the same William who married Anne Smoot. Below is a court document you may have already seen: "Mar 1670. Another suit in which both Nehemiah Blakiston and Mrs. John Legett appear, came before the March, 1669/70, court. William Smoot, a large land- owner, who owned land which the Rev. John Legett had purchased, sued a certain Thomas Thorowgood, to whom he said he had given a boat, a cow, and a heifer, to teach a youth, William Hungerford, the son of Mrs. Legett, how "to write & Cast Accts.", and that Thorowgood had gone away and failed to do so. The latter denied that he had made such a bargain, either with Smoot or with Mrs. Legett, the youth's mother, and declared that while he was away Mr. Blakiston had taught him; the court granted a nonsuit (p. 247; Arch. Md. LIII, 251, 599). This indicates that Mrs. Bridgett Legett was the widow of William Hungerford, Sr., when she married John Legett, and that she had a son William Hungerford, Jr. (Maryland State Archives, Vol 60 Pg Preface 42 ) William Smoote plt came to prosecute the suite by him Commenced agt Thoms Thorowgood Thoms Thorowgood Deft came also & Appeared to defd the suite comenced agt him by Wm Smoote Wm Smoot Plt Thoms Thorowgood Deft And whereupon the sd plt Complaineth agt the sd Thoms for tht whereas the sd Thoms did in the xxxvii yeare of the Dominion of Caecilius 1668 agree & faithfully promise unto the sd William tht is to say tht he the sd Thomas would well & truly teach Wm Hungerford to write & Cast Accts in Consideracon whereof the sd WiTh did pay unto him the sd Thoms one boate of foureteene foot by the Keele one Cow & one yearleing Heifer Yet notwthstanding the sd Thoms his sd obligacon & agreemt little regarding but minding & fraudulently intending him the sd Witti of the sd boate & Cattle to deceive neither hath performed his sd agreemt but shortly after goeing out of the Country the sd youth negligently did leave un- taught & now doth altogether refuse to make him the sd William any reparacon whereby the sd Wm sth he is damnified to the Valew of 2900 lb of tob & thereupon he bringeth his suite Whereupon the Deft replied tht the plt never made any bargaine him for to teach the sd youth his mother Mrs Legatt & tht wn he was out of the Country Mr Blakiston did teach the M youth. And hereupon the Court found noe Cause of Action Therefore It was ordered tht a Nonsuite pass agt the Plt wth Costs & chargs of suite, whereupon the Deft prefered this bill of Cost wch was allowed him 3 daies Attendance 30 90 2 Witness 3 daies aps 30 180 A nonsuite 050 320. (Maryland State Archives, Vol 60 Pg 247 )" Note on the above. I have found no evidence that William Sr. was married to a Bridgett and we know that the widow of William Hungerford Sr. was Anne Smoot. The only conclusion is that Bridgett Leggett was the Foster Mother or Godmother to William Hungerford Jr. The name Bridget really stood out for me, since that is a name common in the Down Ampney Hungerfords. I wonder if Bridget, rather than being a Hungerford by marriage, was a Hungerford by birth. This may be a clue to the English origins of William Hungerford Sr. Any other thoughts on the above? I descend from William & Anne (Smoot) Hungerford through their grandaughter Elizabeth Hungerford who married John Neal in Charles county. Lorie Kerns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Johnson Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Roll Call For Lorie: Short answer: NO. I have not found proof of forebears of Wiliam Hungerford (born 1634) who married Anne Smoot. However, that being said, there has to have been a William Hungerford, senior, as William Hungerford came into Maryland 1646 and on 7 April 1648 he demanded 100 acres for transporting himself in 1646 and again another 100 acres for transporting himself in 1647. On 2 January 1646/47 he swore fealty to the Proprietary (MD Archives iii 174) and 29 Feb. 1647/8 William Hungerford and others petitioned for themselves and "severall soldiers against the estate of Mrs. Margaret Brent for their wages." 9MD Archives i, 226). There are other mentions of him in this time frame. Also may have removed to Virginia as a result of Ingles Rebellion and come back into MD in 1647 and thus gained another right of entry. The point of the above being that this could not be the William Hungerford born 1634 as he would only be 12-14 yrs. old in 1646/47/48. Some references refer to a William H., wife Ann, father of William 1634, but I have found no good proof. I also cannot find any William on a ship coming into Maryland. As the Hungerfords were so closely allied to the Smoot family, and the Smoots came from Charles City, VA, my thought is perhaps the Hungerford immigrant came into VA also. Again, no proof. In England, there were five branches of the Hungerford family, all originating from Farleigh-Hungerford Castle. You might take a look at the web page of Julie Neel. Roots Web World Connect Project: Neel, Black Landers, Cantrell. Julie Neel E-mail [email protected] I corresponded with her once about a year ago and she said she would send me her proofs and I have not heard back. She has William of Maryland descending from the Anthony Hungerford family of Down Ampney, England. This made sense and corresponded to what I had decided (with no proof at all) just from the book published in England on the Milward-Oliver family. (50 copies, and I have one). Anyway, it is a starting point. I would love to see someone pursue this. Who is your Hungerford ancestor? I wish I could be of more help but this is where I am with it. Anne Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>Humphrey Attwicks refers to >his "sister-in-law Anne Hungerford" >on August 12, 1661 (Maryland >Archives--again no documentation.) See 41:470 http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001/000041/html/ am41--470.html Humphrey ATTWICKS statement was made in 1661, but was made in regard to 4 or 5 years ago, to his sister in law Anne HUNGERFORD, widow. We know at was at least 3 years ago (1658). It is possible that it was 4 or 5, but also possible it was just a faulty memory. Rick Saunders -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 4:38 PM

As for the 1634 birth date, I think it was taken from the IGI. If you enter William HUNGERFORD born 1634, you will see that they are listing William HUNGERFORD, Jr. (the one who married Magaret BARTON) as born in 1634, the son of William [Sr.] and Ann [no last name]. If you click on source, you will see a microfilm which is Baptisms for the Dead 1893-1943 and heir indexes 1803-1960, so that date predates at least 1960. As to why they thought he was born in 1634, when we now know (which they may not have known when that record was made) that his mother Anne SMOOT was born about 1640, I don't know. They also did not apparently know she was a SMOOT. I think as more recent researchers came along and knew the above about Anne SMOOT, they just took the 1634 date for the father, and then added the "William and Anne" as another generation, in effect, making William and his wife Ann [SMOOT] his own parents. Rick Saunders -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 4:38 PM

Hi Lorie, I thought that the case with William HUNGERFORD and Bridgett LEGGETT was discussed previously, but I can't seem to find it in the archives, so I it must be that I discussed it privately with someone in the past year or so. First, at the MD Archives site, click on the PDF version, as the printed version left out a couple of key words that are included in the PDF version, and are in the original record which I have previously examined. As for what the editors wrote in the preface about Mrs. Bridget LEGATT being the widow of William HUNGERFORD, Sr., and the mother of William HUNGERFORD, Jr., I believe they just plain interpreted the record wrong. For the PDF version of Vol. 60:247 http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001/000060/pdf/a m60--247.pdf to summarize the first part: William SMOOT was suing Thomas THOROWGOOD that he had contracted with THOROWGOOD to teach William HUNGERFORD to write, etc. THOROWGOOD left the country, and left William [HUNGERFORD] untaught. Now in the PDF version, it reads [spelling out the abbreviations] "Whereupon the Defendant replied that the plaintiff never made any bargain with him for to teach the said youth with his mother Mrs. Legatt & that when he was out of the Country Mr. BLAKISTON did teach the said youth." Note that the non PDF version left out the word _with_ in "said youth with his mother Mrs. LEGATT..." The phrase "to teach the said youth with his mother Mrs. LEGATT" is referring to Thomas THOROWGOOD's mother, not William HUNGERFORD's mother. It would make no sense that William SMOOT would bargain with Thomas THOROWGOOD in 1668 to have William HUNGERFORD's own mother/step-mother/foster-mother teach him. William SMOOT had the care of William HUNGERFORD in 1665, so there is no record of Bridget LEGATT ever having his care or being a foster mother. William SMOOT bargained with Thomas THOROWGOOD because he thought that THOROWGOOD's mother Mrs. Bridget LEGATT was going to teach William HUNGERFORD. THOROWGOOD stated that SMOOT hadn't bargained with him to have his [THOROWGOOD's] mother teach William HUNGERFORD, and that he had Mr. BLAKISTON teach him while he was out of the country. Rick Saunders -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 4:38 PM

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Rick: As I said--I would love for someone to pursue this and get it correct. The 1634 birth date for William has floated around ever since I started looking into the Hungerfords. Like you, I have never seen proof of it yet it won't go away. I finally decided IF he was born 1634, there would have to be a William before him as one finds on some of the Internet sites a William/Anne. I have not entered that into my charts because there is no proof--but where does it come from? The Web page I mentioned makes an arguement along those lines but I have received no proof, despite asking for it. One curious item I came across today while looking to see if I could pin the prior William on someone, was the statement that Humphrey Attwicks refers to his "sister-in-law Anne Hungerford" on August 12, 1661 (Maryland Archives--again no documentation.) Attwicks was married to Anne's sister, Elizabeth, according to Harry Wright Newman in his book on the Smoot family. It has always been my understanding that Anne Smoot Hungerford was married to William Barton by late 1658 as their daughter, Grace, was born Aug. 1, 1659 and lived only one month. Have I got this right? I always thought Wiliam Hungerford died in 1658. That is correct, isn't it? As you know, I am always glad to be corrected--I just want it right. I have male cousins (in their 40s) in direct descent from William but I don't think they have enough interest to do any DNA testing. Anne Hungerford Johnson

Dear Norma, Linda & List, Barbara from Fauquier board sent me this record and I have a feeling this might be the same Walter Alexander McConchie that was named in the Chancery Record of 1810. What do you all think? I went to NC Archives today and found many familiar surnames from the Charles County Gentry book showing up in DC according to information in National Intelligencer and Washington Advertiser Newspaper Abstracts. (There were notices of ladies having letters in the Washington City Post Ofc. July 1, 1812, etc. with names Mrs. A. Dent, Mrs. Harrison, Matilda Berry, to name a few.) Also, many military appointments made by The Pres of the US on Aug. 26 for the 1st Legion of the Militia of DC such as Capts. Rich'd Briscoe,...Sam'l Speake...) On page 79, National Intelligencer & Washington Advertiser Newspaper Abstracts 1811-1813: "Notice-persons having claims against the est. of Eleanor Speake, late of Wash. Co. DC ,dec'd; bring same by May 1 -Mary Brooke, extx." It just looks like some of these Maryland lines were in DC and I'm wondering if anyone has Mary Ellen Speake with a Maryland line? I thought this marriage record and Speake name might be a really good lead--I'm hopeful anyway. I should be getting the Chancery Record any day as it was mailed out on the 23rd. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions, Amanda Walter Alexander McConchie d. August 30, 1843 married December 31, 1829 Mary Ellen Speake Washington County, D.C. Marriage Index District of Columbia 1740 - 1920 Washington D. C. Marriages 1806 - 1850 Page 25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Notice. All those who have claims against the estate of Maj. W. > McConchie, deceased, are requested to hand them to the subscriber, on or > before Thursday, 18th of October next, legally authenticated or they may > be > excluded from all benefit of said deceased's estate; and on the above said > day there will be sold part for cash and part on credit, a number, say > from > 10 to 20 likely Negroes of all sorts and sizes, a large stock consisting > of > horses, mules, black cattle, sheep, hogs, &c. House and kitchen furniture > with plantation utensils of every description by Samuel Chapman, > Administrator of Wm. McConchie with the will annexed. Charles County, > April > 13. (National Intelligencer, Washington, D.C.). This item was published > on > April 20, April 27, May 7, and May 25, 1810. > > Linda Reno ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHANCERY COURT (Chancery Papers) >1810/12/22 5520: John B. Wills, Jr. and Samuel Chapman vs. Mary McConchie, John McConchie, Lucy Harrison McConchie, John Thomas Stone McConchie, Fanny Jones McConchie, Elizabeth McConchie, Walter Alexander McConchie, Richard McConchie, and Mary Maria McConchie. CH. Estate of William McConchie - Pointon Manor. Recorded (Chancery Record) 81, p.