Thanks Shirley, I have all my Edelen line. But you mentioned Peter Montgomery ( he is my ancestor who came to America). My great great grandfather was Benjamin Franklin Montgomery as I have said. For a long time I could find not connection until I realized he was called simply "Franklin". On the 1850 census for Charles Co., Md he is listed as Franklin and being 7 years old. He was from the first marriage of his father James Henry Montgomery to Jane E. Berry. When he was grown he married Anne Jane Gilmore of Canada and they lived at "Mt. Eagle" in Bryantown. He died of consumption or somethign in the 1880s and is buried beside his parents in St. Mary's church grave yard there. As for Anne Jane Gilmore, here is an excerpt from my Montgomery file: --------------------------------------- ANNE JANE GILMORE, B. 3/30/1849-1850 at "Gilmore" in Grant Co., Ontario, Canada.--D. Saturday, April 7, 1934 and is buried in the family plot in Mount Olivet Cemetery somewhere in D.C.. I am not sure if it was a Montgomery plot or Gilmore plot, because there is also a Montgomery Family Plot in "Rock Creek" Cemetery in N. East D.C. where her son Chalres Henry Archibald Montgomery is buried. For her obiturary, see below. Her husband Benjamin Franklin Montgomery was buried beside or near his parents in St. Mary's Cemetery in Bryantown, Md.. I was told that after his death, Anne took the children and moved back to Canada for a while, then eventually moved back to Washington, D.C., never to go back to Bryantown and never let her children know or associate with their Montgomery relatives in Bryantown, etc. I wonder why? One relative told me that she had always heard that there was some sort of bad blood between the Gilmores and Montgomerys. If I remember correctly it was that the Gilmores did not want their daughter to marry Mr. Montgomery, feeling that the Montgomerys were beneath their station in life or something of that nature. Anne Jane Gilmore was from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, the daughter of Thomas T. and Anne (Cuttle) Gilmore. Anne Cuttle was daughter of Sir John and Lady Jane Cuttle of "Arkena", Rockingham, England. Sir John was a member of British Parliament and the Earl of Rockingham. Note: Her obituar says her father was Henry T. Gilmore, but my grandmother and great aunts said it was Thomas Thompson Gilmore. I figure they should know. ---------------------- Later, David Middleton Edelen II Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Warren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: [MDCHARLE] John Baptist Edelen > David, > I found this in Mary Donnelly's "Charles County Maryland, My Colonial > Ancestors, Plus Others", Page 201 : > "Ann Helen Clements, the only child of Elizabeth Neale and Jacob Clements > married John Baptist Edelen and was named as a sister in the will of her > half-sister Elizabeth McAtee when she died in 1811." > > There is a John Baptist Montgomery. Found a Benjamin Montgomery b 1748, > but > no Benjamin Franklin. Peter Montgomery was born 1684 in France. He > leased > a tract of land near Bryantown from Joshua Guilbert. > > There is a list of the children of Richard Edelen II and Sarah Hagan if > you > need it. > > Shirley Warren (I think there are four Shirleys on this list) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Shirley, Don't let it get you down. Sometimes I have mentioned things, information that someone gave me and was so busy or in a hurry forgot to add who was gracius and kind enough to share it with me or went to the trouble of looking something up for me. But even if I fail to give credit where credit is due I always appreciate what someone has done for me. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > That's all right, Shirley. We all get sick of that! I suppose I do strange > "sourcing". I put the correspondence on the subject in a person's notes. > If I > pull it off of the net where "everyone" seems to have it and no one gives > a > source, neither do I. If I don't justify it, you better take it with a > grain of > salt. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > > >> List, >> I've had a bad day today research wise, it is a drag when someone takes >> your findings and makes it theirs with no mention of you any where in >> sight. And I'm sorry my complaint went thru the list. It was meant for >> Norma only, but stupid me I didn't check the address. >> >> Shirley Middleton Moller >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 >> >> >>>I knew that the widow of Stephen Sr didn't marry Samuel Berry. >>> And I know that she had more children than Stephen Jr. >>> >>> Everything out on this family is pretty much made up by others. Ann the >>> wife of Stephen Sr could be a Cole, due to the will of Giles Cole will, >>> but >>> then again she may not be. She cannot have two maiden names, as it >>> looks >>> like Cawood people want to attach to her. When I cannot prove that she >>> is >>> "definitely" a Cole Terrett, I do not make her a Cole. I know that is >>> how >>> you work also. Guesses are set as an aside. >>> >>> I researched this family some time ago and the article Ken mentioned is >>> the >>> first I've heard of on this family, so I was wondering about the sources >>> it >>> uses. I dropped Ken a line requesting a copy of the article. We will >>> see >>> if he comes thru. >>> But today I guess it is really bothering me that others do not do any >>> research, but sure want what you've done. >>> >>> Shirley >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 >>> >>> >>>> Shirley, the statement that Ann Cawood married Samuel Berry is based in >>>> part on >>>> an error. Ann, the widow of Stephen Cawood, married second John Wynn, >>>> and >>>> third >>>> James Berry. Many people give James as Samuel, but that is an error. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:19 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Norma and Ken, >>>>> I find it interesting that right under the will of John Wedding, Sr of >>>>> Charles Co., in the Calendar of Wills book, p 200 is the will of >>>>> Humphrey >>>>> Berry of Charles Co., and it caught my eye because Humphrey happens >>>>> to >>>>> have >>>>> tracts called Mt. Parradise & Hull. The same tracts that are owned >>>>> by >>>>> Stephen Cawood, Jr. that was married to Mary Cox. And this Humphrey >>>>> Berry >>>>> has a son named Samuel. >>>>> >>>>> Ken why couldn't Ann that married Samuel Berry be the d/o Stephen >>>>> Cawood, >>>>> Sr >>>>> and wife Ann? >>>>> >>>>> Shirley Middleton Moller >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Ken Wedding" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:39 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Norma, >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree that this Ann Cawood (if the info is accurate) is not Anne >>>>>> Cawood, b. about 1702, who was the daughter of Stephen Cawood, Jr., >>>>>> and >>>>>> Mary Cox. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Ann Cawood I have as wife to Samuel Berry was born about 1675. I >>>>>> have no parents' names for either her or Samuel Berry. >>>>>> >>>>>> My source for the information is the "Robey/Robie/Roby Family >>>>>> Association, Inc. Semi Annual Newsletter," Vol. 3 Issue 2 Mid May, >>>>>> 1999 >>>>>> >>>>>> The connections are that Mary Berry married John Robey IV (son of >>>>>> John >>>>>> Robey III and Sarah Smallwood). AND Sarah Berry's 2nd husband was >>>>>> Jacob Robey >>>>>> >>>>>> Included in that Newsletter article was this note, "Dr. Berry's >>>>>> daughter was in fact named Mary as proven in the Certificate of >>>>>> survey >>>>>> for Samuel Robey on lot #10 of Zachaiah manor, dated 31 Aug 1741. >>>>>> William Hanson, Deputy Surveyor of Charles County, included the >>>>>> following note on the certificate, "Lives to be put in the lease are >>>>>> said Samuel Robey and wife Sarah and Berry Robey, son of John and >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> Robey." This proves Berry Roby's parents and his birth before 31 Aug >>>>>> 1741." (Charles Co., MD Unpatented Certificate #519 at the Maryland >>>>>> Hall of Records in Annapolis) >>>>>> >>>>>> So, it seems that the Samuel Berry mentioned above was a doctor. So, >>>>>> David, I would expect you can probably find some other records of >>>>>> this >>>>>> Dr. Samuel Berry. Good luck. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken Wedding >>>>>> Northfield, Minnesota >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Message: 2 >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:37:40 -0700 >>>>>>> From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>>>>> reply-type=original >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think Samuel Berry married Ann Cawood, unless she was a >>>>>>> different one >>>>>>> than the d/o Stephen Cawood and Mary Cox. She is given in her >>>>>>> father's >>>>>>> will as >>>>>>> Anne Thomas, the widow of William Atchison. In a 1737 deed issued by >>>>>>> her mother, >>>>>>> she is named as the wife of John Thomas. In the 1745 probate of John >>>>>>> Clubb, her >>>>>>> mother and brother are given as his next of kin, and wife Anna is >>>>>>> named. Her >>>>>>> oldest son, William Atchison, was the surety of the estate. If there >>>>>>> is other >>>>>>> proof that she married third, John Clubb, I don't have it. She died >>>>>>> sometime in >>>>>>> 1745 before Mathew Clubb is given as the "surviving" executor of his >>>>>>> father. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Ken Wedding" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:38 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BERRY >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My records have a Samuel Berry, b. about 1664 in England and died >>>>>>>> before 1753 in Charles County, MD >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> About 1689, in Charles Co., he married Ann Cawood, who was born >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> 1675 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In my records, they had 2 daughters >>>>>>>> Mary Berry, born about 1718 >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> Sarah Berry, born about 1717, died 22 May 1777 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mary Berry married John Robey IV before 1734 in Charles Co. >>>>>>>> (John Robey IV, b. 1714 in Charles Co., d. 1804 in Iredell Co., NC) >>>>>>>> this couple had 9 children >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sarah Berry married John Wynn, 24 Aug. 1738 >>>>>>>> (John Wynn, b. 1720) >>>>>>>> This couple had 15 children >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> None of this gets you closer to Judge Berry, but the Berry name was >>>>>>>> present in Charles Co. Perhaps Samuel Berry and Ann Cawood had >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> children than just the two daughters. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ken Wedding >>>>>>>> Northfield, MN >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "David Middleton Edelen II" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:34 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>> I have a couple of questions: I am David Middleton >>>>>>>>>> Edelen >>>>>>>>>> II and my >>>>>>>>>> family were all among some of the original people in Charles and >>>>>>>>>> Pr. >>>>>>>>>> Georges >>>>>>>>>> Counties, Md.. Upon her death in 1994 my grandmother, Mrs. David >>>>>>>>>> Middleton >>>>>>>>>> Edelen (maiden name: Eloise Gilmore Berry) still owned like 90 >>>>>>>>>> acres >>>>>>>>>> of land >>>>>>>>>> in the "Berry" community along Mattawoman Creek which she always >>>>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>> always been known as "Friendship". My dad and Uncle both said >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> at one >>>>>>>>>> time it was several thousand acres, etc.. I have also heard it >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> also known >>>>>>>>>> as Mt. Friendship. On the other side of the creek lay my gr gr >>>>>>>>>> grandfather >>>>>>>>>> Alexius Llewellyn Middleton's land (back in Civil War or post CW >>>>>>>>>> days). >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, my grandmother always said that land had >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> been in her >>>>>>>>>> family. That her grandfather Judge Thomas Baker Berry owned it >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> one time >>>>>>>>>> and her father and his siblings were born there. But I have >>>>>>>>>> heard >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> originally that it was Edelen land. Does anyone know the history >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> that land >>>>>>>>>> and that area, or anything about Judge Thomas Baker Berry or >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> line of >>>>>>>>>> Berrys? I can't even find out who Thomas Baker Berry's parents >>>>>>>>>> were. >>>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>>> my Edelen line back to like 1500, my Middletons back to the 16 or >>>>>>>>>> 1700s, but >>>>>>>>>> only have my Berry line back to Judge Thomas Baker Berry, my gr >>>>>>>>>> gr >>>>>>>>>> grandfather. I have a lot of info on him personally, his wife's >>>>>>>>>> family back to >>>>>>>>>> British Parliament, etc, but none on his folks. My dad met my >>>>>>>>>> mom >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> WWII and >>>>>>>>>> moved to Alabama with her after the war. So I grew up in Alabama >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>> knew any Edelen, Middleton, or Berry cousins other than my two >>>>>>>>>> Edelen >>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>> cousins in Silver Springs, Md.. >>>>>>>>>> Any info on that Berry land or my gr gr grandfather >>>>>>>>>> Judge >>>>>>>>>> Thomas >>>>>>>>>> Baker Berry would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>> David Middleton Edelen II >>>>>>>>>> Millbrook, Alabama >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Patty, I hope Ms Vivian enjoys my letter. I wrote about some things and family members that might stir her memory and bring back fond memories. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "wpsc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > No David, we are talking about Dr. Edward Edelen's wife. Dr. Edelen > lived at Mulberry Grove in Port Tobacco but he grew up in Bryantown area. > > Patty > > David Middleton Edelen II wrote: >> Are y'all talking about that Ms Vivian spoken of earlier? If so, I wrote >> her >> a long letter and mailed it this morning. Oh well. I hope she is resting >> in >> peace. >> DMEII >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Simmons" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> >>> Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me >>> up >>> to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I >>> had >>> forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces >>> and >>> nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, >>> Dr >>> Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary >>> >>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons >>> 2761 Knollwood Dr >>> Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of wpsc >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think >>> they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, >>> his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. >>> >>> Mary Simmons wrote: >>> >>>> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >>>> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >>>> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >>>> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >>>> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >>>> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >>>> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as >>>> he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I >>>> worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's >>>> heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other >>>> Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, >>>> Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's >>>> family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of >>>> Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited >>>> my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and >>>> memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >>>> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >>>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>>> >>>> >>>> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >>>> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >>>> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >>>> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. >>>> >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >>>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>>> >>>> >>>> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >>>> Edelen and >>>> >>>> thought David or someone might be interested. >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of >>>> the message >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Hello Debi, I remember seeing that turf farm you mentioned. It was to the right of my grandmother's land. Her land was between that and the little road that crossed Mattowoman creek. But I believe that the Berrys owned a lot more at one time. At least that is what my dad and uncle said. My uncle said he always hear that Judge Thomas Baker Berry at one time owned 7000 acres of land and hundreds of slaves. I think that is an exajuration. I don't know how much land he owned by according to the census records he owned 25. I am not proud of that, it is just history. But my grandmother did say that her grandfather was known for his kind dealings with slaves and did not believe in splitting families up. If he sold a slave to another farmer or what have you then that slave's family went with them. When I used to go walk her land I used to look at the tobacco barnes that were still standing. They had had tin roofs addes sometime in the past, but the beams and all were hand planed and fashioned by slave labor so I was told. Slavery is not something that a white man should be proud of, but that and those barnes and their construction is still a piece of interesting history and heritage. But back to the land sell. It was all kept hush hush. When my uncle notified us and sent us a little two thousand dollar check saying there would be more later, he would not say how much it was sold for or to whom the land was sold. A Berry cousin went to the court house and found out the land sold for One million and that my uncle was the buyer. Since he was the executor of my grandmother's estate, seems to me that was a breach of ethics there. He was the executor of my grandmother's estate and sold it to himself and his partners!! Their little venture was called "E., K., Edelen Farms" or something. The E was for Eichner and the K for Kennedy I think. Not only that, he got rid of my grandmother's lawyer and used his own as the exectutor's lawyer and the sell, etc., from what I was told. I had more than one cousin on the Berry side up there call me and tell me that we should get a lawyer and fight it and have it all investigated that the land should have sold for like 6 million. It is all water under the bridge now. My uncle is dead now, having died of cancer, and his wife, who curse me saying we did not deserved a d--med thing cause we did not live up there or spend enough time with my granmother, and their two sons, my first cousins, we never hear from them nor do they answer letters or e-mails, etc, etc.. So, so be it! To me bankers, land speculators, lawyers, they are all parasites. This is the way I feel about it. I did not want to cause a big family fued over it, and my uncle and I were always very close, or so I thought. We might indeed have gotten shafted, money might have passed under the table as some have said, but I don't care anymore. I have my memories of my dear sweet grandmother and her sisters whom we, my siblings and I, absolutely adored. Those childhood memories all during the '60s and early '70s when mama would drive us kids from Prattville, Alabama to Maryland to visit are some of my most treasured memories. Memories of walking that land that had been in our family for generations hand in hand with my grandmother or great aunts, listening to their sweet gentle voices tell of the old days, days of family honor, gallantry, of tales of Old Southern Maryland......,. My grandmother told me once when I asked did she ever spend much time with my two first cousins up there, that she never saw them, that they barely showed her the time of day. We would drive up at least once a year and sometimes more often just to sit a little while with her and enjoy a day or two with her in her quiet little apartment at 3220 Connecticut Ave.. When we were kids she would take us on tours of the zoo and the Smithsonian, where she retired from as an editor, down to her land. That land seemed magical to me when I was a kid. I grew to love it even though I never lived on it or own any of it. The money part of it does not bother me. I have my memories and love from those days with my grandmother and her sisters and those mean far much more to me. Well enough of that. I did not mean to get a big spill going about it all. It is all over and done with back in the mid '90s. DE From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship? > Hello DE, > I know where you're talking about! Indeed, it is all fancy houses and it > sounds VERY fishy! That tends to happen a lot around here! The farmers > are being bought out for little and then the land is subdivided into these > monstrocities! I grew up on a farm here so I have watched it all happen! > My brother is a surveyor and he says those with money basically can do > what they want! My uncle lived on what was Middletown Road-now the powers > that be are turning it into the next super highway up here. You're not > missing anything nowadays as they have practically paved over everything! > I think your Grandmother's land may have been a turf farm for awhile. The > "estates" are postage-size lots with huge homes on them selling for > upwards of $500,000.00. MY family is looking to move elsewhere back to > where country is still country! While I was raised here and my family is > here by a quirk of fate-military actually- I was born in GA. Anyway, just > note to let you know what I know ab! > out the land around Waldorf. By the way, the Nanjemoy Creek would be > south of Mattawoman. > > Debi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship? > > > Hello dgolds, > I am not from up there, I grew up in Alabama and have never > heard of Nanjemoy Creek. The land I speak of is along Highway 228 I think > in a community called "Berry", not far from Waldorf. It lay along > Mattawoman Creek and on the other side of the creek was Pr. Georges County > and the land of my gr. gr. grandfather Dr. Alexius Llewellyn Middleton. > In case you are curiouis about who has the land now, in 1994 my > grandmother died and per her wishes the land was sold by her son and > executor and the money was to be divided among her heirs. We were all very > close to her although we grew up in Alabama. In the years before her death > whenever I would go up and visit her I would always go out to her land and > walk and hike around it. I begged her to sell me just five acres right > where the old house had stood but she would not do it and adhered to her > original plan of it being sold and split between her heirs. I knew what > would happen, with my dad dead and we kids scattered around the Deep > Douth. > My uncle, her exectutor, did as she wanted, but sold the land to himself > and > some partners, "E., K., Edelen & Farms" I think and developed it. I think > that stands for "Eichner, Kennedy, and Edelen". They developed it and now > it is a fancy subdivision. It was like 93 acres. My uncle sold it to > himself and his partners for one million, at least that is what we were > told. Other relatives up there told me that land should have sold for 4-6 > million or even more. Heck, Walmart paid a family 8 million for roughly > the > same amount of land on the outskirts of little Prattville, Alabama. I can > imagine the true value of 93 acres on the outskirts of Washington, D.C.. > None of us had the money to look into it and hire a lawyer. One sister who > lived up there talked with the district attorney and the DA agreed that it > was indeed fishy and seemed unethical. But alas, why did she not do > anything about it if she felt that way?!? Our little portions were doled > out in bits and pieces over the years, with a lump at the end of a certain > time. The lawyers we talked to said it would eat up anything we had coming > to try to dig into it and fight it. > So, I don't know if anything shady took place or not, although > I > remember hearing something about my uncle getting rid of my grandmother's > lawyer and using his own during this, and the DA thought that was sort of > odd if not wrong. She, the DA at the time, said that as the executor that > all that looked fishy. My uncle and I were pretty tight as far as I knew > (he > is dead now too, dying of cancer a few years ago). So I just don't think > about it. But if it should have indeed sold for say 6 million, then we > were > just screwed. > I used to love to walk those woods and that land and imagine my > ancestors. There was a lot of history there. I am sad it is gone now, > under > concrete and asphalt. I heard that the beautiful land across the creek is > now some sort of golf course and old Middleton or Berry road crossing > Mattowoman Cr. there by my grandmother's land is not more. Sad. > Well let me go. 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No David, we are talking about Dr. Edward Edelen's wife. Dr. Edelen lived at Mulberry Grove in Port Tobacco but he grew up in Bryantown area. Patty David Middleton Edelen II wrote: > Are y'all talking about that Ms Vivian spoken of earlier? If so, I wrote her > a long letter and mailed it this morning. Oh well. I hope she is resting in > peace. > DMEII > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Simmons" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > >> Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me >> up >> to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I had >> forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces and >> nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, >> Dr >> Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary >> >> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons >> 2761 Knollwood Dr >> Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of wpsc >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think >> they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, >> his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. >> >> Mary Simmons wrote: >> >>> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >>> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >>> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >>> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >>> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >>> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >>> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as >>> he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I >>> worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's >>> heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other >>> Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, >>> Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's >>> family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of >>> Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited >>> my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and >>> memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >>> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >>> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >>> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >>> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. >>> >>> Shirley >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >>> Edelen and >>> >>> thought David or someone might be interested. >>> Shirley >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of >>> the message >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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I have always enjoyed these lists so much but hesitate to participate because the memory does go after a certain number of years but I remember asking my mother if Dr Edward Edelen might be related to us and that is why I spoke up. My grandparents were William Jordan and Mary Ellen (Dyer) Middleton. I grew up on a farm between Waldorf and Bryantown during the depression days. My grandmother was the daughter of Thomas Berry Dyer and Elizabeth (Reader) Dyer. Her sister was Frances, the wife of Dr. Samuel A. Mudd. I was next to the youngest of 10 children so I do not remember my grandparents. My grandmother lived with my parents during her last years of life. I only remember my mother talking about Aunt "Frank" and stories about Dr Mudd while he was in prison. At one time my mother had one of the rare books which contained letters from Dr Mudd to his wife while he was a prisoner but she gave it to my younger brother for a paper he was doing in college and the book disappeared. The years during the depression were not the best years but we lived on a farm and knew we didn't have money but we had a great family life. Under the 1880 census, we found my grandparents had 2 orphan children which we believe might have been adopted during the "Orphan Train" days when so many children were sent out of New York. Is there anyone who might have any knowledge of these children coming to Charles County? Mary R. (Middleton) Simmons -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) I had replied to Mary off the list, and in that reply, suggested that she probably had great stories of growing up in Southern Maryland and possibly of many of our families, too. Can she share those on the list, or should I ask her to email me off the list with any stories she might be willing to share? Thanks for the direction - Mur -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me up to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I had forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces and nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, Dr Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons 2761 Knollwood Dr Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of wpsc Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. Mary Simmons wrote: > I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the > Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, > Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate > Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in > the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area > were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward > Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as > he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I > worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's > heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other > Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, > Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's > family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of > Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited > my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and > memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite > information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. > Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) > still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a > manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. > Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. > > Shirley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM > Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw > Edelen and > > thought David or someone might be interested. > Shirley > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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thanks Norma I didn't understand why they couldn't be opened after I sent them. MaryJo -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> > These are the correct URLs. Evidently, Genealogy.com re-indexed. > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/r/o/Jeremiah-B-Crow/index.html > http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/users/w/a/i/James-M-Waites/index.html > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/l/Sohnie-F-Hill/index.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > > > > can't access any of these pages. > > Shirley Middleton Moller > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:27 AM > > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > > > > > >> some info on Berry's at: > >> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/k/a/Jeremiah-B-Crow/index.html > >> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/i/James-M-Waites-AL/index/html > >> http://familytreemaker.gneealogy.com/users/h/i/l/Sophie-F-Hill/index.html > >> > >> > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > >> From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" > >> > >>> Norma and Ken, > >>> I find it interesting that right under the will of John Wedding, Sr of > >>> Charles Co., in the Calendar of Wills book, p 200 is the will of Humphrey > >>> Berry of Charles Co., and it caught my eye because Humphrey happens to > >>> have > >>> tracts called Mt. Parradise & Hull. The same tracts that are owned by > >>> Stephen Cawood, Jr. that was married to Mary Cox. And this Humphrey Berry > >>> has a son named Samuel. > >>> > >>> Ken why couldn't Ann that married Samuel Berry be the d/o Stephen Cawood, > >>> Sr > >>> and wife Ann? > >>> > >>> Shirley Middleton Moller > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Ken Wedding" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:39 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > >>> > >>> > >>> > Norma, > >>> > > >>> > I agree that this Ann Cawood (if the info is accurate) is not Anne > >>> > Cawood, b. about 1702, who was the daughter of Stephen Cawood, Jr., and > >>> > Mary Cox. > >>> > > >>> > The Ann Cawood I have as wife to Samuel Berry was born about 1675. I > >>> > have no parents' names for either her or Samuel Berry. > >>> > > >>> > My source for the information is the "Robey/Robie/Roby Family > >>> > Association, Inc. Semi Annual Newsletter," Vol. 3 Issue 2 Mid May, 1999 > >>> > > >>> > The connections are that Mary Berry married John Robey IV (son of John > >>> > Robey III and Sarah Smallwood). AND Sarah Berry's 2nd husband was > >>> > Jacob Robey > >>> > > >>> > Included in that Newsletter article was this note, "Dr. Berry's > >>> > daughter was in fact named Mary as proven in the Certificate of survey > >>> > for Samuel Robey on lot #10 of Zachaiah manor, dated 31 Aug 1741. > >>> > William Hanson, Deputy Surveyor of Charles County, included the > >>> > following note on the certificate, "Lives to be put in the lease are > >>> > said Samuel Robey and wife Sarah and Berry Robey, son of John and Mary > >>> > Robey." This proves Berry Roby's parents and his birth before 31 Aug > >>> > 1741." (Charles Co., MD Unpatented Certificate #519 at the Maryland > >>> > Hall of Records in Annapolis) > >>> > > >>> > So, it seems that the Samuel Berry mentioned above was a doctor. So, > >>> > David, I would expect you can probably find some other records of this > >>> > Dr. Samuel Berry. Good luck. > >>> > > >>> > Ken Wedding > >>> > Northfield, Minnesota > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Message: 2 > >>> >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:37:40 -0700 > >>> >> From: "Norma Lundgren" > >>> >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 > >>> >> To: > >>> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > >>> >> reply-type=original > >>> >> > >>> >> I don't think Samuel Berry married Ann Cawood, unless she was a > >>> >> different one > >>> >> than the d/o Stephen Cawood and Mary Cox. She is given in her father's > >>> >> will as > >>> >> Anne Thomas, the widow of William Atchison. In a 1737 deed issued by > >>> >> her mother, > >>> >> she is named as the wife of John Thomas. In the 1745 probate of John > >>> >> Clubb, her > >>> >> mother and brother are given as his next of kin, and wife Anna is > >>> >> named. Her > >>> >> oldest son, William Atchison, was the surety of the estate. If there > >>> >> is other > >>> >> proof that she married third, John Clubb, I don't have it. She died > >>> >> sometime in > >>> >> 1745 before Mathew Clubb is given as the "surviving" executor of his > >>> >> father. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> >> From: "Ken Wedding" > >>> >> To: > >>> >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:38 PM > >>> >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >>> BERRY > >>> >>> > >>> >>> My records have a Samuel Berry, b. about 1664 in England and died > >>> >>> before 1753 in Charles County, MD > >>> >>> > >>> >>> About 1689, in Charles Co., he married Ann Cawood, who was born about > >>> >>> 1675 > >>> >>> > >>> >>> In my records, they had 2 daughters > >>> >>> Mary Berry, born about 1718 > >>> >>> and > >>> >>> Sarah Berry, born about 1717, died 22 May 1777 > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Mary Berry married John Robey IV before 1734 in Charles Co. > >>> >>> (John Robey IV, b. 1714 in Charles Co., d. 1804 in Iredell Co., NC) > >>> >>> this couple had 9 children > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Sarah Berry married John Wynn, 24 Aug. 1738 > >>> >>> (John Wynn, b. 1720) > >>> >>> This couple had 15 children > >>> >>> > >>> >>> None of this gets you closer to Judge Berry, but the Berry name was > >>> >>> present in Charles Co. Perhaps Samuel Berry and Ann Cawood had more > >>> >>> children than just the two daughters. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Ken Wedding > >>> >>> Northfield, MN > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> From: "David Middleton Edelen II" > >>> >>>> To: > >>> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:34 AM > >>> >>>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>> Hello, > >>> >>>>> I have a couple of questions: I am David Middleton Edelen > >>> >>>>> II and my > >>> >>>>> family were all among some of the original people in Charles and > >>> >>>>> Pr. > >>> >>>>> Georges > >>> >>>>> Counties, Md.. Upon her death in 1994 my grandmother, Mrs. David > >>> >>>>> Middleton > >>> >>>>> Edelen (maiden name: Eloise Gilmore Berry) still owned like 90 > >>> >>>>> acres > >>> >>>>> of land > >>> >>>>> in the "Berry" community along Mattawoman Creek which she always > >>> >>>>> said > >>> >>>>> had > >>> >>>>> always been known as "Friendship". My dad and Uncle both said that > >>> >>>>> at one > >>> >>>>> time it was several thousand acres, etc.. I have also heard it was > >>> >>>>> also known > >>> >>>>> as Mt. Friendship. On the other side of the creek lay my gr gr > >>> >>>>> grandfather > >>> >>>>> Alexius Llewellyn Middleton's land (back in Civil War or post CW > >>> >>>>> days). > >>> >>>>> Anyway, my grandmother always said that land had always > >>> >>>>> been in her > >>> >>>>> family. That her grandfather Judge Thomas Baker Berry owned it at > >>> >>>>> one time > >>> >>>>> and her father and his siblings were born there. But I have heard > >>> >>>>> that > >>> >>>>> originally that it was Edelen land. Does anyone know the history of > >>> >>>>> that land > >>> >>>>> and that area, or anything about Judge Thomas Baker Berry or their > >>> >>>>> line of > >>> >>>>> Berrys? I can't even find out who Thomas Baker Berry's parents > >>> >>>>> were. > >>> >>>>> I have > >>> >>>>> my Edelen line back to like 1500, my Middletons back to the 16 or > >>> >>>>> 1700s, but > >>> >>>>> only have my Berry line back to Judge Thomas Baker Berry, my gr gr > >>> >>>>> grandfather. I have a lot of info on him personally, his wife's > >>> >>>>> family back to > >>> >>>>> British Parliament, etc, but none on his folks. My dad met my mom > >>> >>>>> in > >>> >>>>> WWII and > >>> >>>>> moved to Alabama with her after the war. So I grew up in Alabama > >>> >>>>> and > >>> >>>>> never > >>> >>>>> knew any Edelen, Middleton, or Berry cousins other than my two > >>> >>>>> Edelen > >>> >>>>> first > >>> >>>>> cousins in Silver Springs, Md.. > >>> >>>>> Any info on that Berry land or my gr gr grandfather Judge > >>> >>>>> Thomas > >>> >>>>> Baker Berry would be greatly appreciated. > >>> >>>>> Sincerely, > >>> >>>>> David Middleton Edelen II > >>> >>>>> Millbrook, Alabama > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ------------------------------- > >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in > >>> the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Forgive this personal request but; Rose Mary Lyon, if you are out there and see this give me a hollar. I lost all my addresses due to 'puter trouble. So drop me a line and if you hear from Donald and Anne Gardiner or Kimberly Bowling, give them my regards from Alabama and tell them to drop me a line also! Take care, David Middleton Edelen II Millbrook, Al.

Hey y'all, Yep, it is sad for families to drift apart due to time and distance. What's sad to me is that I am an Edelen, of the Piscataway Edelens, and my father was raised up in those parts but moved to Alabama with my mom after WWII, so I having grown up in Alabama know none of them other my two first cousins. That's sad because my great grandparents, Charles Jenkins Edelen and Olivia Attaway Middleton had 12 kids. I have met a couple of my dad's 1st cousinn Mabel Edelen's kids, who's dad I think was Byron Sunstone, but it has been years and I have lost touch with them. The only descendent out of all the offspring from those 12 children of my great grandfather Charles Jenkins Edelen , that I am in touch with, and that only by phone, is my dad's 1st cousin, Charles Jenkins Edelen III, the son of Charles Jenkins Edelen, Jr., in Alexandria I think. I have met a couple of 2nd cousins in the past, when I was a kid and mom and dad would go up to visit and we would meet certain cousins, but that was years ago and I have lost touch with any of them. Especially now that the old folks are all gone. Now I am 51 and I reckon I am fast becoming one fo the "old line"! I had been in touch with a couple of Middleton descendents, 3rd and fourth cousins I think, up in Va but have lost touch with them as well. I had some computer repairs done a while back and lost all my e-mail addresses I had stored in my "adddress book". The only Middleton descendent, from the same line as me, is Mary Simmons on this list, and we are in touch although we are more distantly kin. I am in touch with a couple of Berry cousins though; my grandmother Eloise Gilmore Berry's sisters, Great Aunt Margaurite Berry Tubman's children, whom I am fairly close to, and only one of great aunt Jean's children, Rose Mary Lyons. She is probably on this list too, although I have not heard from her in a long while. Give me a hollar RM if you see this. Oh well, I am rambling on again. Take care all, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "wpsc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >I would like to hear her stories too. I guess it it up to Mary whether > she would rather share one on one or the group. > > I know many of the Edelen's in the area. Mary, if you are OK with > sharing, would you tell me who your grandparents were on the Dyer side. > > Patty > > SHIRLEY MOLLER wrote: >> I for one would love to hear her stories. >> Shirley Middleton Moller >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> >>> I had replied to Mary off the list, and in that reply, suggested that >>> she >>> probably had great stories of growing up in Southern Maryland and >>> possibly >>> of many of our families, too. Can she share those on the list, or >>> should I >>> ask her to email me off the list with any stories she might be willing >>> to >>> share? >>> >>> Thanks for the direction - >>> Mur >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 1:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me >>> up >>> to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I >>> had >>> forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces >>> and >>> nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, >>> Dr >>> Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary >>> >>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons >>> 2761 Knollwood Dr >>> Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of wpsc >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think >>> they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, >>> his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. >>> >>> Mary Simmons wrote: >>> >>>> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >>>> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >>>> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >>>> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >>>> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >>>> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >>>> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as >>>> he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I >>>> worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's >>>> heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other >>>> Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, >>>> Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's >>>> family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of >>>> Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited >>>> my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and >>>> memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >>>> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >>>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>>> >>>> >>>> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >>>> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >>>> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >>>> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. >>>> >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >>>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>>> >>>> >>>> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >>>> Edelen and >>>> >>>> thought David or someone might be interested. >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of >>>> the message >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Are y'all talking about that Ms Vivian spoken of earlier? If so, I wrote her a long letter and mailed it this morning. Oh well. I hope she is resting in peace. DMEII ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Simmons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me > up > to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I had > forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces and > nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, > Dr > Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary > > Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons > 2761 Knollwood Dr > Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of wpsc > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think > they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, > his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. > > Mary Simmons wrote: >> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as >> he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I >> worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's >> heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other >> Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, >> Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's >> family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of >> Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited >> my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and >> memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. >> >> Shirley >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >> Edelen and >> >> thought David or someone might be interested. >> Shirley >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of >> the message >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from >> AOL at AOL.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mrs. Mary Edelen, Dr. Edelen's wife, passed away a few years back. Her sons still live at the Mulberry Grove property, which was once the home of John Hanson. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw Edelen and thought David or someone might be interested. Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Hello DE, I know where you're talking about! Indeed, it is all fancy houses and it sounds VERY fishy! That tends to happen a lot around here! The farmers are being bought out for little and then the land is subdivided into these monstrocities! I grew up on a farm here so I have watched it all happen! My brother is a surveyor and he says those with money basically can do what they want! My uncle lived on what was Middletown Road-now the powers that be are turning it into the next super highway up here. You're not missing anything nowadays as they have practically paved over everything! I think your Grandmother's land may have been a turf farm for awhile. The "estates" are postage-size lots with huge homes on them selling for upwards of $500,000.00. MY family is looking to move elsewhere back to where country is still country! While I was raised here and my family is here by a quirk of fate-military actually- I was born in GA. Anyway, just note to let you know what I know ab! out the land around Waldorf. By the way, the Nanjemoy Creek would be south of Mattawoman. Debi -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship? Hello dgolds, I am not from up there, I grew up in Alabama and have never heard of Nanjemoy Creek. The land I speak of is along Highway 228 I think in a community called "Berry", not far from Waldorf. It lay along Mattawoman Creek and on the other side of the creek was Pr. Georges County and the land of my gr. gr. grandfather Dr. Alexius Llewellyn Middleton. In case you are curiouis about who has the land now, in 1994 my grandmother died and per her wishes the land was sold by her son and executor and the money was to be divided among her heirs. We were all very close to her although we grew up in Alabama. In the years before her death whenever I would go up and visit her I would always go out to her land and walk and hike around it. I begged her to sell me just five acres right where the old house had stood but she would not do it and adhered to her original plan of it being sold and split between her heirs. I knew what would happen, with my dad dead and we kids scattered around the Deep Douth. My uncle, her exectutor, did as she wanted, but sold the land to himself and some partners, "E., K., Edelen & Farms" I think and developed it. I think that stands for "Eichner, Kennedy, and Edelen". They developed it and now it is a fancy subdivision. It was like 93 acres. My uncle sold it to himself and his partners for one million, at least that is what we were told. Other relatives up there told me that land should have sold for 4-6 million or even more. Heck, Walmart paid a family 8 million for roughly the same amount of land on the outskirts of little Prattville, Alabama. I can imagine the true value of 93 acres on the outskirts of Washington, D.C.. None of us had the money to look into it and hire a lawyer. One sister who lived up there talked with the district attorney and the DA agreed that it was indeed fishy and seemed unethical. But alas, why did she not do anything about it if she felt that way?!? Our little portions were doled out in bits and pieces over the years, with a lump at the end of a certain time. The lawyers we talked to said it would eat up anything we had coming to try to dig into it and fight it. So, I don't know if anything shady took place or not, although I remember hearing something about my uncle getting rid of my grandmother's lawyer and using his own during this, and the DA thought that was sort of odd if not wrong. She, the DA at the time, said that as the executor that all that looked fishy. My uncle and I were pretty tight as far as I knew (he is dead now too, dying of cancer a few years ago). So I just don't think about it. But if it should have indeed sold for say 6 million, then we were just screwed. I used to love to walk those woods and that land and imagine my ancestors. There was a lot of history there. I am sad it is gone now, under concrete and asphalt. I heard that the beautiful land across the creek is now some sort of golf course and old Middleton or Berry road crossing Mattowoman Cr. there by my grandmother's land is not more. Sad. Well let me go. I did not mean to ramble on. DE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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David, I found this in Mary Donnelly's "Charles County Maryland, My Colonial Ancestors, Plus Others", Page 201 : "Ann Helen Clements, the only child of Elizabeth Neale and Jacob Clements married John Baptist Edelen and was named as a sister in the will of her half-sister Elizabeth McAtee when she died in 1811." There is a John Baptist Montgomery. Found a Benjamin Montgomery b 1748, but no Benjamin Franklin. Peter Montgomery was born 1684 in France. He leased a tract of land near Bryantown from Joshua Guilbert. There is a list of the children of Richard Edelen II and Sarah Hagan if you need it. Shirley Warren (I think there are four Shirleys on this list)

Anne, Here are the new URL's from Norma. Shirley Middleton Moller http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/r/o/Jeremiah-B-Crow/index.html http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/l/Sohnie-F-Hill/index.html http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/i/James-M-Waites-AL/index.html----- Original Message -----From: "Anne Clark" <[email protected]>To: <[email protected]>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:32 PMSubject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170>I couldn't either.> Anne>> At 10:42 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:>>>can't access any of these pages.>>Shirley Middleton Moller>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----->>From: <[email protected]>>>To: <[email protected]>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:27 AM>>Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170>>>>>> > some info on Berry's at:>> >http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/k/a/Jeremiah-B-Crow/index.html>> >>>http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/i/James-M-Waites-AL/index/html>> >http://familytreemaker.gneealogy.com/users/h/i/l/Sophie-F-Hill/index.html>> >>> >>> > -------------- Original message -------------->> > From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]>>> >>> >> Norma and Ke! n,>> >> I find it interesting that right under the will of John Wedding, Sr of>> >> Charles Co., in the Calendar of Wills book, p 200 is the will ofHumphrey>> >> Berry of Charles Co., and it caught my eye because Humphrey happens to>> >> have>> >> tracts called Mt. Parradise & Hull. The same tracts that are owned by>> >> Stephen Cawood, Jr. that was married to Mary Cox. And this HumphreyBerry>> >> has a son named Samuel.>> >>>> >> Ken why couldn't Ann that married Samuel Berry be the d/o StephenCawood,>> >> Sr>> >> and wife Ann?>> >>>> >> Shirley Middleton Moller>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----->> >> From: "Ken Wedding">> >> To:>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:39 PM>> >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170>> >>>> >>>> >> > Norma,>> >> >>> >> > I agree that this Ann Cawood (if the info is accurate) is not Anne>> >> > Cawood, b. about 1702, who was the daughter of Stephen Cawood, Jr.,and>> >> > Mary Cox.>> >> >>> >> > The A! nn Cawood I have as wife to Samuel Berry was born about 1675. I>> >> > have no parents' names for either her or Samuel Berry.>> >> >>> >> > My source for the information is the "Robey/Robie/Roby Family>> >> > Association, Inc. Semi Annual Newsletter," Vol. 3 Issue 2 Mid May,1999>> >> >>> >> > The connections are that Mary Berry married John Robey IV (son ofJohn>> >> > Robey III and Sarah Smallwood). AND Sarah Berry's 2nd husband was>> >> > Jacob Robey>> >> >>> >> > Included in that Newsletter article was this note, "Dr. Berry's>> >> > daughter was in fact named Mary as proven in the Certificate ofsurvey>> >> > for Samuel Robey on lot #10 of Zachaiah manor, dated 31 Aug 1741.>> >> > William Hanson, Deputy Surveyor of Charles County, included the>> >> > following note on the certificate, "Lives to be put in the lease are>> >> > said Samuel Robey and wife Sarah and Berry Robey, son of John andMary>> >> > Robey." This proves Berry Roby's parents and his birth before 31 Aug>> >> > 1741." ! (Charles Co., MD Unpatented Certificate #519 at the Maryland>> >> > Hall of Records in Annapolis)>> >> >>> >> > So, it seems that the Samuel Berry mentioned above was a doctor. So,>> >> > David, I would expect you can probably find some other records ofthis>> >> > Dr. Samuel Berry. Good luck.>> >> >>> >> > Ken Wedding>> >> > Northfield, Minnesota>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:53 PM, [email protected] wrote:>> >> >>> >> >> Message: 2>> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:37:40 -0700>> >> >> From: "Norma Lundgren">> >> >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168>> >> >> To:>> >> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";>> >> >> reply-type=original>> >> >>>> >> >> I don't think Samuel Berry married Ann Cawood, unless she was a>> >> >> different one>> >> >> than the d/o Stephen Cawood and Mary Cox. She is given in herfather's>> >> >> will as>> >> >> Anne Thomas, th! e widow of William Atchison. In a 1737 deed issuedby>> >> >> her mother,>> >> >> she is named as the wife of John Thomas. In the 1745 probate ofJohn>> >> >> Clubb, her>> >> >> mother and brother are given as his next of kin, and wife Anna is>> >> >> named. Her>> >> >> oldest son, William Atchison, was the surety of the estate. Ifthere>> >> >> is other>> >> >> proof that she married third, John Clubb, I don't have it. She died>> >> >> sometime in>> >> >> 1745 before Mathew Clubb is given as the "surviving" executor ofhis>> >> >> father.>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----->> >> >> From: "Ken Wedding">> >> >> To:>> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:38 PM>> >> >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> BERRY>> >> >>>>> >> >>> My records have a Samuel Berry, b. about 1664 in England and died>> >> >>> before 1753 in Charles County, MD>> >> >>>>> >> >>> About 1689, in Charles Co., he married Ann Cawood, who was bornabout>> >>! >>> 1675>> >> >>>>> >> >>> In my records, they had 2 daughters>> >> >>> Mary Berry, born about 1718>> >> >>> and>> >> >>> Sarah Berry, born about 1717, died 22 May 1777>> >> >>>>> >> >>> Mary Berry married John Robey IV before 1734 in Charles Co.>> >> >>> (John Robey IV, b. 1714 in Charles Co., d. 1804 in Iredell Co.,NC)>> >> >>> this couple had 9 children>> >> >>>>> >> >>> Sarah Berry married John Wynn, 24 Aug. 1738>> >> >>> (John Wynn, b. 1720)>> >> >>> This couple had 15 children>> >> >>>>> >> >>> None of this gets you closer to Judge Berry, but the Berry namewas>> >> >>> present in Charles Co. Perhaps Samuel Berry and Ann Cawood hadmore>> >> >>> children than just the two daughters.>> >> >>>>> >> >>> Ken Wedding>> >> >>> Northfield, MN>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, [email protected] wrote:>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> From: "David Middleton Edelen II">> >> >>>> To:>> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:34 AM>> >> >>>> Subject: [MDCHAR! LE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship?>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> Hello,>> >> >>>>> I have a couple of questions: I am David Middleton Edelen>> >> >>>>> II and my>> >> >>>>> family were all among some of the original people in Charles and>> >> >>>>> Pr.>> >> >>>>> Georges>> >> >>>>> Counties, Md.. Upon her death in 1994 my grandmother, Mrs. David>> >> >>>>> Middleton>> >> >>>>> Edelen (maiden name: Eloise Gilmore Berry) still owned like 90>> >> >>>>> acres>> >> >>>>> of land>> >> >>>>> in the "Berry" community along Mattawoman Creek which she always>> >> >>>>> said>> >> >>>>> had>> >> >>>>> always been known as "Friendship". My dad and Uncle both saidthat>> >> >>>>> at one>> >> >>>>> time it was several thousand acres, etc.. I have also heard itwas>> >> >>>>> also known>> >> >>>>> as Mt. Friendship. On the other side of the creek lay my gr gr>> >> >>>>> grandfather>> >> >>>>> Alexius Llewellyn Middleton's land (back in Civil War or post CW>> >> >>>>> days).>> >> >>>>> Anyway, my grandmother always said that land had always>> >> >>>>> been in her>> >> >>>>> family. That her grandfather Judge Thomas Baker Berry owned itat>> >> >>>>> one time>> >> >>>>> and her father and his siblings were born there. But I haveheard>> >> >>>>> that>> >> >>>>> originally that it was Edelen land. Does anyone know the historyof>> >> >>>>> that land>> >> >>>>> and that area, or anything about Judge Thomas Baker Berry ortheir>> >> >>>>> line of>> >> >>>>> Berrys? I can't even find out who Thomas Baker Berry's parents>> >> >>>>> were.>> >> >>>>> I have>> >> >>>>> my Edelen line back to like 1500, my Middletons back to the 16or>> >> >>>>> 1700s, but>> >> >>>>> only have my Berry line back to Judge Thomas Baker Berry, my grgr>> >> >>>>> grandfather. I have a lot of info on him personally, his wife's>> >> >>>>> family back to>> >> >>>>> British Parliament, etc, but none on his folks. My dad met mymom>> >> >>>>> in>> >> >>>>> WWII and>> >> >>>>> moved to Alabama with her after! the war. So I grew up in Alabama>> >> >>>>> and>> >> >>>>> never>> >> >>>>> knew any Edelen, Middleton, or Berry cousins other than my two>> >> >>>>> Edelen>> >> >>>>> first>> >> >>>>> cousins in Silver Springs, Md..>> >> >>>>> Any info on that Berry land or my gr gr grandfather Judge>> >> >>>>> Thomas>> >> >>>>> Baker Berry would be greatly appreciated.>> >> >>>>> Sincerely,>> >> >>>>> David Middleton Edelen II>> >> >>>>> Millbrook, Alabama>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > ------------------------------->> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to>> >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' withoutthe>> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message>> >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------->> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to>> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the>> >> quotes in>> >> the subject and the body of the message>> >>> > ------------------------------->> > To unsubscribe from! the list, please send an email to>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message>>>>>>------------------------------->>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message>>>>>>>>-->>No virus found in this incoming message.>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.2/766 - Release Date:>>4/18/2007 7:39 AM>>> --> No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.2/766 - Release Date: 4/18/20077:39 AM>>>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

Hoping someone out there can help me. I suspect that John Francis Allen b. 1860 d. 1909 is possibly my g/g/grandfather. My great grandmother (paternal) was Mary Permelia (Allen) Wright. She died in 1906 and "Frank" Allen was her father, as I've seen in the family bible. The closest I can come is John Francis Allen - incidentally, he is buried at Pisgah Methodist Church in Charles Co. This is area would most likely be correct. If anyone knows anything about him, I'd appreciate your contacting me. Thanks, Janet Scott Cox

Really, I meant your great grandparents--Molly's parents. Patty wpsc wrote: > I would like to hear her stories too. I guess it it up to Mary whether > she would rather share one on one or the group. > > I know many of the Edelen's in the area. Mary, if you are OK with > sharing, would you tell me who your grandparents were on the Dyer side. > > Patty > > SHIRLEY MOLLER wrote: > >> I for one would love to hear her stories. >> Shirley Middleton Moller >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> >> >>> I had replied to Mary off the list, and in that reply, suggested that she >>> probably had great stories of growing up in Southern Maryland and possibly >>> of many of our families, too. Can she share those on the list, or should I >>> ask her to email me off the list with any stories she might be willing to >>> share? >>> >>> Thanks for the direction - >>> Mur >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 1:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me >>> up >>> to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I had >>> forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces and >>> nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, >>> Dr >>> Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary >>> >>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons >>> 2761 Knollwood Dr >>> Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of wpsc >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think >>> they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, >>> his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. >>> >>> Mary Simmons wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >>>> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >>>> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >>>> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >>>> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >>>> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >>>> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as >>>> he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I >>>> worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's >>>> heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other >>>> Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, >>>> Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's >>>> family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of >>>> Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited >>>> my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and >>>> memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >>>> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >>>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>>> >>>> >>>> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >>>> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >>>> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >>>> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. >>>> >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >>>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>>> >>>> >>>> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >>>> Edelen and >>>> >>>> thought David or someone might be interested. >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of >>>> the message >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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I couldn't either. Anne At 10:42 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote: >can't access any of these pages. >Shirley Middleton Moller > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:27 AM >Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > > > > some info on Berry's at: > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/k/a/Jeremiah-B-Crow/index.html > > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/i/James-M-Waites-AL/index/html > > http://familytreemaker.gneealogy.com/users/h/i/l/Sophie-F-Hill/index.html > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]> > > > >> Norma and Ken, > >> I find it interesting that right under the will of John Wedding, Sr of > >> Charles Co., in the Calendar of Wills book, p 200 is the will of Humphrey > >> Berry of Charles Co., and it caught my eye because Humphrey happens to > >> have > >> tracts called Mt. Parradise & Hull. The same tracts that are owned by > >> Stephen Cawood, Jr. that was married to Mary Cox. And this Humphrey Berry > >> has a son named Samuel. > >> > >> Ken why couldn't Ann that married Samuel Berry be the d/o Stephen Cawood, > >> Sr > >> and wife Ann? > >> > >> Shirley Middleton Moller > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Ken Wedding" > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:39 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > >> > >> > >> > Norma, > >> > > >> > I agree that this Ann Cawood (if the info is accurate) is not Anne > >> > Cawood, b. about 1702, who was the daughter of Stephen Cawood, Jr., and > >> > Mary Cox. > >> > > >> > The Ann Cawood I have as wife to Samuel Berry was born about 1675. I > >> > have no parents' names for either her or Samuel Berry. > >> > > >> > My source for the information is the "Robey/Robie/Roby Family > >> > Association, Inc. Semi Annual Newsletter," Vol. 3 Issue 2 Mid May, 1999 > >> > > >> > The connections are that Mary Berry married John Robey IV (son of John > >> > Robey III and Sarah Smallwood). AND Sarah Berry's 2nd husband was > >> > Jacob Robey > >> > > >> > Included in that Newsletter article was this note, "Dr. Berry's > >> > daughter was in fact named Mary as proven in the Certificate of survey > >> > for Samuel Robey on lot #10 of Zachaiah manor, dated 31 Aug 1741. > >> > William Hanson, Deputy Surveyor of Charles County, included the > >> > following note on the certificate, "Lives to be put in the lease are > >> > said Samuel Robey and wife Sarah and Berry Robey, son of John and Mary > >> > Robey." This proves Berry Roby's parents and his birth before 31 Aug > >> > 1741." (Charles Co., MD Unpatented Certificate #519 at the Maryland > >> > Hall of Records in Annapolis) > >> > > >> > So, it seems that the Samuel Berry mentioned above was a doctor. So, > >> > David, I would expect you can probably find some other records of this > >> > Dr. Samuel Berry. Good luck. > >> > > >> > Ken Wedding > >> > Northfield, Minnesota > >> > > >> > > >> > On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> > > >> >> Message: 2 > >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:37:40 -0700 > >> >> From: "Norma Lundgren" > >> >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 > >> >> To: > >> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > >> >> reply-type=original > >> >> > >> >> I don't think Samuel Berry married Ann Cawood, unless she was a > >> >> different one > >> >> than the d/o Stephen Cawood and Mary Cox. She is given in her father's > >> >> will as > >> >> Anne Thomas, the widow of William Atchison. In a 1737 deed issued by > >> >> her mother, > >> >> she is named as the wife of John Thomas. In the 1745 probate of John > >> >> Clubb, her > >> >> mother and brother are given as his next of kin, and wife Anna is > >> >> named. Her > >> >> oldest son, William Atchison, was the surety of the estate. If there > >> >> is other > >> >> proof that she married third, John Clubb, I don't have it. She died > >> >> sometime in > >> >> 1745 before Mathew Clubb is given as the "surviving" executor of his > >> >> father. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Ken Wedding" > >> >> To: > >> >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:38 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> BERRY > >> >>> > >> >>> My records have a Samuel Berry, b. about 1664 in England and died > >> >>> before 1753 in Charles County, MD > >> >>> > >> >>> About 1689, in Charles Co., he married Ann Cawood, who was born about > >> >>> 1675 > >> >>> > >> >>> In my records, they had 2 daughters > >> >>> Mary Berry, born about 1718 > >> >>> and > >> >>> Sarah Berry, born about 1717, died 22 May 1777 > >> >>> > >> >>> Mary Berry married John Robey IV before 1734 in Charles Co. > >> >>> (John Robey IV, b. 1714 in Charles Co., d. 1804 in Iredell Co., NC) > >> >>> this couple had 9 children > >> >>> > >> >>> Sarah Berry married John Wynn, 24 Aug. 1738 > >> >>> (John Wynn, b. 1720) > >> >>> This couple had 15 children > >> >>> > >> >>> None of this gets you closer to Judge Berry, but the Berry name was > >> >>> present in Charles Co. Perhaps Samuel Berry and Ann Cawood had more > >> >>> children than just the two daughters. > >> >>> > >> >>> Ken Wedding > >> >>> Northfield, MN > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> From: "David Middleton Edelen II" > >> >>>> To: > >> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:34 AM > >> >>>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Hello, > >> >>>>> I have a couple of questions: I am David Middleton Edelen > >> >>>>> II and my > >> >>>>> family were all among some of the original people in Charles and > >> >>>>> Pr. > >> >>>>> Georges > >> >>>>> Counties, Md.. Upon her death in 1994 my grandmother, Mrs. David > >> >>>>> Middleton > >> >>>>> Edelen (maiden name: Eloise Gilmore Berry) still owned like 90 > >> >>>>> acres > >> >>>>> of land > >> >>>>> in the "Berry" community along Mattawoman Creek which she always > >> >>>>> said > >> >>>>> had > >> >>>>> always been known as "Friendship". My dad and Uncle both said that > >> >>>>> at one > >> >>>>> time it was several thousand acres, etc.. I have also heard it was > >> >>>>> also known > >> >>>>> as Mt. Friendship. On the other side of the creek lay my gr gr > >> >>>>> grandfather > >> >>>>> Alexius Llewellyn Middleton's land (back in Civil War or post CW > >> >>>>> days). > >> >>>>> Anyway, my grandmother always said that land had always > >> >>>>> been in her > >> >>>>> family. That her grandfather Judge Thomas Baker Berry owned it at > >> >>>>> one time > >> >>>>> and her father and his siblings were born there. But I have heard > >> >>>>> that > >> >>>>> originally that it was Edelen land. Does anyone know the history of > >> >>>>> that land > >> >>>>> and that area, or anything about Judge Thomas Baker Berry or their > >> >>>>> line of > >> >>>>> Berrys? I can't even find out who Thomas Baker Berry's parents > >> >>>>> were. > >> >>>>> I have > >> >>>>> my Edelen line back to like 1500, my Middletons back to the 16 or > >> >>>>> 1700s, but > >> >>>>> only have my Berry line back to Judge Thomas Baker Berry, my gr gr > >> >>>>> grandfather. I have a lot of info on him personally, his wife's > >> >>>>> family back to > >> >>>>> British Parliament, etc, but none on his folks. My dad met my mom > >> >>>>> in > >> >>>>> WWII and > >> >>>>> moved to Alabama with her after the war. So I grew up in Alabama > >> >>>>> and > >> >>>>> never > >> >>>>> knew any Edelen, Middleton, or Berry cousins other than my two > >> >>>>> Edelen > >> >>>>> first > >> >>>>> cousins in Silver Springs, Md.. > >> >>>>> Any info on that Berry land or my gr gr grandfather Judge > >> >>>>> Thomas > >> >>>>> Baker Berry would be greatly appreciated. > >> >>>>> Sincerely, > >> >>>>> David Middleton Edelen II > >> >>>>> Millbrook, Alabama > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in > >> the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.2/766 - Release Date: >4/18/2007 7:39 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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I would like to hear her stories too. I guess it it up to Mary whether she would rather share one on one or the group. I know many of the Edelen's in the area. Mary, if you are OK with sharing, would you tell me who your grandparents were on the Dyer side. Patty SHIRLEY MOLLER wrote: > I for one would love to hear her stories. > Shirley Middleton Moller > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > >> I had replied to Mary off the list, and in that reply, suggested that she >> probably had great stories of growing up in Southern Maryland and possibly >> of many of our families, too. Can she share those on the list, or should I >> ask her to email me off the list with any stories she might be willing to >> share? >> >> Thanks for the direction - >> Mur >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 1:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me >> up >> to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I had >> forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces and >> nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, >> Dr >> Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary >> >> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons >> 2761 Knollwood Dr >> Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of wpsc >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think >> they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, >> his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. >> >> Mary Simmons wrote: >> >>> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >>> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >>> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >>> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >>> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >>> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >>> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as >>> he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I >>> worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's >>> heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other >>> Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, >>> Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's >>> family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of >>> Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited >>> my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and >>> memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >>> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >>> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >>> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >>> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >>> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. >>> >>> Shirley >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >>> >>> >>> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >>> Edelen and >>> >>> thought David or someone might be interested. >>> Shirley >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of >>> the message >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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That's all right, Shirley. We all get sick of that! I suppose I do strange "sourcing". I put the correspondence on the subject in a person's notes. If I pull it off of the net where "everyone" seems to have it and no one gives a source, neither do I. If I don't justify it, you better take it with a grain of salt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > List, > I've had a bad day today research wise, it is a drag when someone takes > your findings and makes it theirs with no mention of you any where in > sight. And I'm sorry my complaint went thru the list. It was meant for > Norma only, but stupid me I didn't check the address. > > Shirley Middleton Moller > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 > > >>I knew that the widow of Stephen Sr didn't marry Samuel Berry. >> And I know that she had more children than Stephen Jr. >> >> Everything out on this family is pretty much made up by others. Ann the >> wife of Stephen Sr could be a Cole, due to the will of Giles Cole will, >> but >> then again she may not be. She cannot have two maiden names, as it looks >> like Cawood people want to attach to her. When I cannot prove that she is >> "definitely" a Cole Terrett, I do not make her a Cole. I know that is how >> you work also. Guesses are set as an aside. >> >> I researched this family some time ago and the article Ken mentioned is >> the >> first I've heard of on this family, so I was wondering about the sources >> it >> uses. I dropped Ken a line requesting a copy of the article. We will see >> if he comes thru. >> But today I guess it is really bothering me that others do not do any >> research, but sure want what you've done. >> >> Shirley >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 >> >> >>> Shirley, the statement that Ann Cawood married Samuel Berry is based in >>> part on >>> an error. Ann, the widow of Stephen Cawood, married second John Wynn, and >>> third >>> James Berry. Many people give James as Samuel, but that is an error. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "SHIRLEY MOLLER" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 >>> >>> >>>> Norma and Ken, >>>> I find it interesting that right under the will of John Wedding, Sr of >>>> Charles Co., in the Calendar of Wills book, p 200 is the will of >>>> Humphrey >>>> Berry of Charles Co., and it caught my eye because Humphrey happens to >>>> have >>>> tracts called Mt. Parradise & Hull. The same tracts that are owned by >>>> Stephen Cawood, Jr. that was married to Mary Cox. And this Humphrey >>>> Berry >>>> has a son named Samuel. >>>> >>>> Ken why couldn't Ann that married Samuel Berry be the d/o Stephen >>>> Cawood, >>>> Sr >>>> and wife Ann? >>>> >>>> Shirley Middleton Moller >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Ken Wedding" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:39 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 170 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Norma, >>>>> >>>>> I agree that this Ann Cawood (if the info is accurate) is not Anne >>>>> Cawood, b. about 1702, who was the daughter of Stephen Cawood, Jr., and >>>>> Mary Cox. >>>>> >>>>> The Ann Cawood I have as wife to Samuel Berry was born about 1675. I >>>>> have no parents' names for either her or Samuel Berry. >>>>> >>>>> My source for the information is the "Robey/Robie/Roby Family >>>>> Association, Inc. Semi Annual Newsletter," Vol. 3 Issue 2 Mid May, 1999 >>>>> >>>>> The connections are that Mary Berry married John Robey IV (son of John >>>>> Robey III and Sarah Smallwood). AND Sarah Berry's 2nd husband was >>>>> Jacob Robey >>>>> >>>>> Included in that Newsletter article was this note, "Dr. Berry's >>>>> daughter was in fact named Mary as proven in the Certificate of survey >>>>> for Samuel Robey on lot #10 of Zachaiah manor, dated 31 Aug 1741. >>>>> William Hanson, Deputy Surveyor of Charles County, included the >>>>> following note on the certificate, "Lives to be put in the lease are >>>>> said Samuel Robey and wife Sarah and Berry Robey, son of John and Mary >>>>> Robey." This proves Berry Roby's parents and his birth before 31 Aug >>>>> 1741." (Charles Co., MD Unpatented Certificate #519 at the Maryland >>>>> Hall of Records in Annapolis) >>>>> >>>>> So, it seems that the Samuel Berry mentioned above was a doctor. So, >>>>> David, I would expect you can probably find some other records of this >>>>> Dr. Samuel Berry. Good luck. >>>>> >>>>> Ken Wedding >>>>> Northfield, Minnesota >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Message: 2 >>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:37:40 -0700 >>>>>> From: "Norma Lundgren" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>>>> reply-type=original >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think Samuel Berry married Ann Cawood, unless she was a >>>>>> different one >>>>>> than the d/o Stephen Cawood and Mary Cox. She is given in her father's >>>>>> will as >>>>>> Anne Thomas, the widow of William Atchison. In a 1737 deed issued by >>>>>> her mother, >>>>>> she is named as the wife of John Thomas. In the 1745 probate of John >>>>>> Clubb, her >>>>>> mother and brother are given as his next of kin, and wife Anna is >>>>>> named. Her >>>>>> oldest son, William Atchison, was the surety of the estate. If there >>>>>> is other >>>>>> proof that she married third, John Clubb, I don't have it. She died >>>>>> sometime in >>>>>> 1745 before Mathew Clubb is given as the "surviving" executor of his >>>>>> father. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Ken Wedding" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:38 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] MDCHARLE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 168 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> BERRY >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My records have a Samuel Berry, b. about 1664 in England and died >>>>>>> before 1753 in Charles County, MD >>>>>>> >>>>>>> About 1689, in Charles Co., he married Ann Cawood, who was born about >>>>>>> 1675 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my records, they had 2 daughters >>>>>>> Mary Berry, born about 1718 >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Sarah Berry, born about 1717, died 22 May 1777 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Berry married John Robey IV before 1734 in Charles Co. >>>>>>> (John Robey IV, b. 1714 in Charles Co., d. 1804 in Iredell Co., NC) >>>>>>> this couple had 9 children >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah Berry married John Wynn, 24 Aug. 1738 >>>>>>> (John Wynn, b. 1720) >>>>>>> This couple had 15 children >>>>>>> >>>>>>> None of this gets you closer to Judge Berry, but the Berry name was >>>>>>> present in Charles Co. Perhaps Samuel Berry and Ann Cawood had more >>>>>>> children than just the two daughters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ken Wedding >>>>>>> Northfield, MN >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "David Middleton Edelen II" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:34 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship or Mt. Friendship? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> I have a couple of questions: I am David Middleton >>>>>>>>> Edelen >>>>>>>>> II and my >>>>>>>>> family were all among some of the original people in Charles and >>>>>>>>> Pr. >>>>>>>>> Georges >>>>>>>>> Counties, Md.. Upon her death in 1994 my grandmother, Mrs. David >>>>>>>>> Middleton >>>>>>>>> Edelen (maiden name: Eloise Gilmore Berry) still owned like 90 >>>>>>>>> acres >>>>>>>>> of land >>>>>>>>> in the "Berry" community along Mattawoman Creek which she always >>>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> always been known as "Friendship". My dad and Uncle both said that >>>>>>>>> at one >>>>>>>>> time it was several thousand acres, etc.. I have also heard it was >>>>>>>>> also known >>>>>>>>> as Mt. Friendship. On the other side of the creek lay my gr gr >>>>>>>>> grandfather >>>>>>>>> Alexius Llewellyn Middleton's land (back in Civil War or post CW >>>>>>>>> days). >>>>>>>>> Anyway, my grandmother always said that land had always >>>>>>>>> been in her >>>>>>>>> family. That her grandfather Judge Thomas Baker Berry owned it at >>>>>>>>> one time >>>>>>>>> and her father and his siblings were born there. But I have heard >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> originally that it was Edelen land. Does anyone know the history of >>>>>>>>> that land >>>>>>>>> and that area, or anything about Judge Thomas Baker Berry or their >>>>>>>>> line of >>>>>>>>> Berrys? I can't even find out who Thomas Baker Berry's parents >>>>>>>>> were. >>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>> my Edelen line back to like 1500, my Middletons back to the 16 or >>>>>>>>> 1700s, but >>>>>>>>> only have my Berry line back to Judge Thomas Baker Berry, my gr gr >>>>>>>>> grandfather. I have a lot of info on him personally, his wife's >>>>>>>>> family back to >>>>>>>>> British Parliament, etc, but none on his folks. My dad met my mom >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> WWII and >>>>>>>>> moved to Alabama with her after the war. So I grew up in Alabama >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>> knew any Edelen, Middleton, or Berry cousins other than my two >>>>>>>>> Edelen >>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>> cousins in Silver Springs, Md.. >>>>>>>>> Any info on that Berry land or my gr gr grandfather >>>>>>>>> Judge >>>>>>>>> Thomas >>>>>>>>> Baker Berry would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> David Middleton Edelen II >>>>>>>>> Millbrook, Alabama >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message