Marianne, I eagerly look forward to whatever you post because your information has caused me to keep digging and I think I'm really starting to see some things that have to be more than coincidences. Just want to say right up front in light of some discussion that I never mean to post information as my own when another has been very nice to share. I'll note this when I cut and paste. I don't claim to know anything--just trying to find answers. Probably won't help anyone but I'm ten minutes from NC Archives and while I'm not very good at all this yet, I would give a try to look up something if somebody needs NC info. Regards, Amanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: [MDCHARLE] MD NAMES IN LOUDOUN CO., VA. > Hi Amanda and List, > > Amanda, since you have some MD names in Fauquier which is close to > Loudoun Co., formed from Fairfax Co. in 1757. I thought I would give a > list of names I have in Loudoun that might provide some family information > for some on the list : > > Loudoun County Fee Books 1762-1765 : > > Robert H. Harrison, Thomas Harrison, Francis Dade, Hugh West, > Joshua Gore, Jr. Capt. John Moss, Junr., John Piles, Christopher > Perfect, Richard Pile, Thomas Triplett, Levan Powell, Thomas > Owsley, William Owsley, William Brooks, John Hough, John Poultney, > Samuel Hanson and George Lee (together), John Wilcoxin, James > Marshall, Francis Lightfoot Lee, Major James Hamilton, Fielding > Turner, Charles Lewis, Charles Tyler (Churchwarden of Cameron Parish), > Francis Marbury, Luke Marbury, Ann Beanes, (Ann, dau of George Hardey, > Jr. and Lucy Dent (sister to Thomas Dent), Capt. William Douglass, > Stephen Lewis, Edward Trafford, Lee Massey, Doctr. Richard Brooke, > Thomas Hanson Marshall, Henry Oxley,Sr., Henry Oxley, Jr., John Oxley, > John Owsley, Leonard Marbury, Nathaniel Smith, Samuel Luckett, > John Hanson, Isaac Nichols (Nicholds), William Hardy, Sr, William > Hardy, Jr., Benjamin Hardy, George Hardy, Sr., > George Hardy, Jr., Solomon Hardy, Henry Hardy, John Hardy, Hanson > Hardy, Thomas Middleton and Edward Garrett (together), Enoch McGruder, > Francis Pyles, Josiah Pyles, William Luckett, John Tyler, Saml. Hanson > and Smith Middleton, > (F. Dade sec. for costs). > > Some deeds in Loudoun that I know of : > > William Houbey, Isaac Nicholds, Robert H. Harrison, Richard Beam ?, > Michael Beam ?, Bernard Yong (Young) ?. > > Order books : > Henry Oxley, John Tyler, Thomas Gore, > > Since Loudoun County was formed from Fairfax County in 1757, I have a > few records from Fairfax County : > > (1) Fairfax County Deed Book C pp. 73-76 : > Indenture 17th/18th August 1750 between John Middleton of Parish of > Cameron in County of Fairfax, Planter, and Mary, his wife, and Valentine > Peyton of Parish Dettingen in county of Prince William, Gent. ... 25 > lbs.....150 acres of land near the Little River of GOOSE CREEK (my Hardy > family lived on GOOSE CREEK), ... being the plantation whereon John > Middleton now dwells and is the remaining part of a tract of land granted > said John Middleton for 593 acres by patent bearing date 8th June 1841.... > signed by John and Mary Middleton > in the presence of Jno. Andrews, W. West, Elishee Hall, George Adams, Wm. > Mackfarling, John Ethell > Lease / release recorded 26th sep 1750. > > Fairfax County, Va. Will Book B 1752-1767 : > > (2) 8 Sep 1754. Josiah Brooks to Sarah Brooks Adm. > Acc'ts To Pd. ; Francis Triplett for rent, John Culliham, William > West, Thomas Middleton. > Adm. ; Sarah, his wife. > Thomas Coomes and Sarah his wife exhibit. > > (3) 17 Sep 1754 pp. 67-68 Henry Tren Accounts : > 1754 to ; Elizabeth Lanhane her part of estate and cash pd. do. by > accts. before Capt. McCarty and before Col. Fairfax, Thomas Marshall, > Absolem Tren, accomodation from 5 Oct 1751- 15 Sep 1754 and 2 years of > school. Bryan Aliston. > By : Maj. Carlyle, William Peake, Jr., Robert Narmillion ?, Benj. > Williamson. > Exor ; James Paul. > > (4) 18 Sep 1754 pp. 68-69 Edward Garrett accounts, ; > 1752 to Wm. West, William Ellzey a lawyer. > By ; widow Hutson, Wm. Ware. > Adm : Richard Nelson, Jr. and Elizabeth his wife. > > (5) Fairfax County, Va Will Book D : > 18 May 1778 > estate of Mary Hawkins dec'd to Francis Marberry (Marbury), Trustee for > Estate. Cash pd (among others)... Thomas Kirpatrick, Samuel Hanson, Thomas > Clagett, Walter Henson (Hanson), Benj. Dulany. > > This record names my William Hardy : > > (6) Fairfax County Will Book B 1752-1767 : > 20 April 1756 ; pp. 106-107 William Maddy accounts : > > John Hough, Gabriel Adams, Mich Pike for Robert Carter esq., WILLIAM > HARDY, Wm. Made, Charles Carter, Esq., Col. Grayson, Robert Adams, Thomas > Wilson, Carlyle and Dalton. > By ; Crop of tob. as appears by Mr. Washington, of Chas Lewis. > Adm ; Elizabeth of Sylvester Murphy. > > I hope this benefits others on the List, > Marianne Dillow > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In the 1775-1778 Charles County Maryland Census (18 years and upward) the Port Tobacco Parish was listed as having a West Hundred and an East Hundred. My information is that Port Tobacco Parish (exact time period unknown) lay between Nanjemoy creek & Mattowoman creek on the west and north and the upper part of Wicomico River/Creek as it continues through the Zachia Swamp on the east side. Does anyone know the (approximate) boundary between the East and West Hundreds? Is my information about Port Tobacco Parish boundaries even close to being correct? Also, in censuses after 1790 is Trinity Parish just a later name for the combined King and Queen Parish and William and Mary Parish?

Dear List, I have the following info for Rezin/Reason Harbin JR born 1784 Died 03 Jan 1854 Charles Co, MD. St Mary's Roman Catholic Church, Bryantown, MD & Elizabeth Unknown: George F. Harbin born 1800ca Chas Co M/Sara John Jesse born 03 May 1807 Died 1864 Bryantown, Sara Harbin born 1809 Chas Co, MD Margaret Harbin born 1812 Chas Co, MD (Inherited Reason's farm near Bryantown) Pricilla Harbin born 1813 Chas Co, MD M/Charles Henry Stewart - resided in Washington, D. C.) Richard Harbin born 1814 Chas Co, MD (Living in Bryantown, Chas Co. MD 1850) Benjamin Harbin born 1818 Chas Co, MD Died young Maria Harbin born 08 Feb 1819 Chas. Co, MD M/Thomas Queen 1839 Died 1850 Catherine Harbin born 25 Oct 1820 Chas Co, MD M/Francis Montgomery 28 Apr 1846 Mattawoman, MD Susanna Montgomery born 1822 Chas Co, MD M/ Benedict Montgomery 1842 Any help will be appreciated. All of the above must have died in MD. Betty Harbin Garbers Betty Harbin Garbers Mary Harbin, born 1811 Chas Co, MD M/Thomas Stewart > Dear List, > Found another reference to a Skinner and would like to add to finding out > more about Thomas Skinner line. Just finding so many same surnames from MD > in Fauquier associated with our Stigler and McConchie lines. In addition > to chasing Skinner and Douglas names, I really need to find where Joseph > Harrison may have come from? On Fauquier Chancery Record, Joseph P. > Stigler vs. Heirs of George Stigler, I found my gg grandfather George W. > McConchie named as heir of Robert King McConchie and Elizabeth Stigler. > Also on this record was Henry Harrison, Granville T. Kelly, John > Taliaferro, R. H. Allen, Henry Claxton, Granville Coleman, David Coleman > and an "infant ____Berry" of guardian Jm. S. Bryne just to name few. > > One particular record of interest that can be viewed on line with Lib of > VA for Fauquier Co.: > (It's over 140 pages and some of it hard to read but I'm going back to do > this page by page but this was what I got at first glance.) > > Fauqiuer Chancery Record of Ex.Jonathan Gibson Ex. Benjamin Harrison: Has > many names that I believe connect to MD. The Benjamin Harrison I believe > to be one. Other names I picked out from inventory were: Richard Beal, > Isaac Eustace, James Wood, Hesekiah Oliver, John Shumate, and know that > Langhorn Dade connects to Rose Townsend Knox, widow of Capt. Robert Knox. > What caught my eye on this record was Hesekiah Oliver found married > Margaret (Mahal) Lewis 5/6/1808 d/o Britain Lewis. Robert McConchie, son > of Alexander in Fauquier married Mary Ann King and Britain Lewis was > brother of Mary Ann King on the marriage bond. > > John Shumate married a Carey Smoot and his daughter Lucy Shumate married > Jonathan Gibson of this Gibson/Harrison record. I'm thinking Harrison line > must connect somewhere as we have Elizabeth "Betti" Harrison McConchie > married to Silas Neale 18 July 1884. We can't figure out where the > Harrison name comes from? > > Renee provided information below: > Amanda this is all I have which adds to the Stigler info and possible > Berry: > > Will Book 1, pages 219-220 King George Co., Virginia > > In the name of God amen, I James Stigler of the County of King George and > Parish of Hanover, being in perfect health and memory do make this my last > will and testament in manner and form following, first I Bequeath my Soul > to God, who gave it, and my Body to the Earth to be decently Buried, at > the Discretion of my Executors hersafter mentioned in sure and certain > hope of Joyful Resurrection, through the merits of Jesus Christ my Savior, > and for what Temporal Estate, it hath pleased God to bestow on me, I give > and Bequeath as followeth. Item I give to my son Samuel Stigler five > Shillings Current money. Item all the rest of my Estate Real and Personal, > I leave my loving wife Martha Stigler during her natural life, and after > her decease to be sold at Public auction, for cash, and the money arising > there from, to be equally divided between my six children, to wit Mary, > David, Agge, Catherine, Benjamin and James, and if any of my children > should die, before the come of age, or ma! > rry, that his or her part of my estate shall be divided between the > survivors and, I do appoint my loving Son in Law, Robert Stringfelloe, > Joel Bery, and Joseph Harrison to be my Executors of this my last will and > testament, herby revoking all former wills by me made, and do acknowledge, > this to be my last Will and Testament in witness whereof I have hereunto > set my hand and Seal this day of May Anno 1764. > > Signed & acknowledged in the Presence of us her his Jos. Strother, Mary X > Harrison, James X Stigler SEAL, N. Strother mark At a Court held for King > George Co. 2nd May 1765 > > Notes for MARTHA: > Martha Stigler, James widow April 19, 1776 (deed book 5 page 1194 King > George Co., Virginia) deeded the land left to her by James to son Benjamin > "for supporting me in a decent manor during my life" this property then > went to James Stigler, son of Benjamin who sells it ot Robert Stringfellow > 6 September 1795, it was this deed that the date of purchase of the land > by James (the first) was mentioned. Robert and Catherine (Stigler) > Stringfellow sell the same property to John Skinner 19 May 1800. > > Children of JAMES STIGLER and MARTHA are: > 2. i. SAMUEL2 STIGLER, b. Abt. 1720; d. Bet. March - May 1800. > ii. MARY STIGLER, m. JOEL BERRY, King George Co, Viginia. > iii. DAVID STIGLER. > iv. PEGGY AGGE STIGLER, m. JOSEPH HARRISON. > v. CATHERINE STIGLER, m. ROBERT STRINGFELLOW, King George Co, VA > vi. JAMES STIGLER, m. MILDRED HACKLEY ?. > Benjamin Stigler married Mary Elizabeth and had: > > James Stigler/Mildred Brown > Martha Stigler/Daniel Routt > Cathy Stigler/James Emmons > William Stigler > Nancy Stigler > > > Note: Benjamin Stigler, 1777, King George, VA. Executors: Brother James > Stigler, Friend James Kay. Witnesses: William Boon, Phillip Reed, James > Stewart, and William Price. > > In the name of God Amen, I Benjamin Stigler of Hanover Parish and County > of King George being very weak and weak of body but his past sins and > memory of. Thanks be to Almighty God for the same do make and ordain > this my last will and testament in manner and form as followeth. Linsh? > I bequeath my body to the earth from whence it came and my soul to > Almighty God who gave it, desiring my body to be decently buried at the > hands of my executors hereafter mentioned and as for touching such > worldly goods as it hath pleased Almighty God to bestow upon me. I give > and bequeath as followeth - > > Item - I give and bequeath to my loving wife Mary Stigler all my estate > during her widowed hooks? but if she should marry then my will and > desire is that she shall have her dower by law only. > > Item - I give and bequeath to my son James Stigler all my lands after my > loving wife's death or marriage to him and his heirs forever. > > Item - I give and bequeath to my children Martha Stigler, Cath > (Catherine) Stigler, James Stigler, Nancy Stigler and William Stigler > after my loving wife's death or marriage all the rest of my estate not > here before bequeathed to be equally divided between them to them and > their heirs forever. > > I do also nominate and appoint my brother James Stigler and my friend > James Kay as hole and sole executor of this my last will and testament > revoking all other will or wills before made by me. > > In order of whereunto I have set my hand and seal this 26th day of > January Anno Dom 1777 sealed and acknowledged. > > Benjamin Stigler (Seal) > > In presence of us > Wm (William) Boon > Phillip Reed > James Stewart > William Price > > At the Court held for King George County the 2 day of October 1777 the > last will and testament of Benjamin Stigler deceased as aforegoing was > then presented into Court by James Stigler one of the executors therein > named, who made oath thereto according to law and being further proved > by the oaths of Wm Boon and Phillip Reed two of the witnesses thereto, > was ordered to be recorded and on motion of the said Extr, pen forming > which the law in such cases require. Certificate is granted him for > obtaining a probate thereof in due form. > > Jas. Robinson > > Timeline: > 19 April 1776 King George County, Virginia - Deed book 5 page 1194. > Property for Martha Stigler. Benjamin Stigler inherits property from his > mother, then leaves it to his son James Stigler. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I see hat Mr Edelen mentioned reaearch on the Montgomery family I am lookung for the family of Minerva Montgomery who married Lewellen Hilton in KY about 1830-1835. I believe Lewellen was born in VA or TN M J Foster ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Dear List, I have been reading your very informative messages for awhile now. I have been surprised that no one has mentioned the name Harbin or any connections. William Harbin born about 1675 Yeovil, England was married to Alice in Md by 1711 when he had a son named John born Aug 20, 1711. Prince George Co, Queen Ann Parish, Died 01 May 1795, SC. John had two known wives Elizabeth Ann Thomas born 1720 MD and Johanan Jones born abt 1716, PG Co, Queene Ann Parish, MD, died 1736. He may have been married to a Catherine Allen Son Elisha Harbin born 1722 PG Co, MD. He was married to an Elizabeth Allen. Her father may have been a Thomas Allen. Elizabeth may have been a sister to Catherine Allen mentioned above. Margaret Harbin born 1713 to William & Alice. She is listed as being married to a Henry Cambron at The Hall of Records in Baltimore, MD. I do not believe that Henry Cambron was married to this Margaret Harbin. I have found that the right Margaret Harbin may have been in abt 1758. Believe Margaret Harbin and Henry Cambron were married about 1778 MD. They ended up migrating to KY. Edward Villers Harbin was born 1731 PG Co, MD, with wife Mary Villers. Edward Villers Harbin died abt 1804 NC. Edward Villers Harbin married Lydia Darnell. They had a son Edward Villers Harbin born abt 1762. Have no wife listed for 1st marriage of Edward Villers Harbin JR. He was married the second time to Elizabeth Ann Howard in Shelby Co, IN, when he was 72 years of age and they had five more children. Would appreciate hearing from anyone that is knowledgeable of this family. Williams other children Elizabeth, Johanna, William, James, Joshua. William Harbin 1675 & family lived at The Gleanings in MD. Betty Harbin Garbers > On 19 Apr 2007 at 5:28, TIMOTHY AND JANET COX wrote: > >> So, you surmize that Permelia and John Francis may have been siblings? > > Well, it depends on when your Permelia was born really, but there was a > Permelia Allen aged 5 in the 1860 household headed by Francis Allen > (Francis Allen household, 1860 U.S. census, Charles County, Maryland, > population schedule, Hill Top District, Pisgah Post Office, page 74, > dwelling > 590, family 586, microfilm M653 (Washington: National Archives), reel > 473). > > In 1870 there is a household headed by A. A. Allen that includes an M. P. > Allen, female, aged 14 and a J. F. Allen, male, aged 9. (A. A. Allen > household, 1870 U.S. census, Charles County, Maryland, population > schedule, 1st District, Pisgah Post Office, page 36, dwelling 475, family > 483, > microfilm M593 (Washington: National Archives), reel 584). > > The John Francis Allen who was buried in Pisgah Methodist Cemetery was > born 23 July 1860 (John Francis Allen cemetery marker, Pisgah Methodist > Cemetery, Pisgah, Charles County, Maryland; Paula L. Wiegand, 16 May > 2003) > > I would love to hear more about you lines as I am compiling a history of > Pisgah (my adopted home) and her people. > > Paula > -- > Karl's Farm > > Naturally grown vegetables and free range eggs > > Ask me what's fresh today! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, As you know, I continue to search for family of Alexander McConchie of Fauquier Co., VA. Most information points to MD but not found connecting thread. There are so many names from MD that show up in Fauquier and Culpeper that surround McConchie and associated lines. (Dent, Knox, Harrison, Berry, Beale, Fendal, Fowke, Jones, Groves, etc.) I have Mary "Margaret" McConchie daughter of Alexander McConchie and Catherine Martin who married Elijah F. Groves, 9 Sept. 1868. Elijah F. Groves son of Armistead W. Groves and Emily Finks if anyone knows about Groves?) In my digging, I happened to notice name Thomas Skinner as neighbor of Stigler and McConchie land in Fauquier. We know that a George Dent and John Knox sold land to Alexander in Fauquier. I have no idea who Alexander's wife "Ann" was but have to check out every surname of associated families of McConchie. Alexander McConchie's son Robert married Mary Ann King. Their son Robert King McConcihe married Elizabeth "Betsy" Stigler. James Stigler was her father. They were parents of my gg grandfather, George W. McConchie. Note on Fauquier records below name Thomas Skinner and I found that name in MD on will of Elizabeth Howard. Then note that her will also has the name Benjamin Douglass spelled with one "s" in one place and two "s's" in last. We've got land record with Douglas right there with our family lines. Elizabeth Howard/CC MD Her will is listed in the Maryland Abstracts and was for 10/08/1716, page 7, Folio 96 is all I have. Elizabeth Howard bequeaths to 1. Elizabeth Howard--niece and goddaughter (daughter of eldest brother of William Stevens Howard) to have 1 silver spoon marked EH and 1 Bible and 1 gold ring with an inscription "prepair to follow IA" 2. Rebecca Dent--goddaughter (daughter of cousin George Dent) to have 1 silver spoon marked MH and 1 Bible 3. Ann Skinner--goddaughter (daughter of Thomas Skinner) - to have 1 Bible 4. Thomas Howard--brother--whereas he has been at considerable expense and charges during testatrix's maintenance both in time of health and in "my many afflictions by sickness" and in that respect has been "both in the place of a father as well as a brother" and for her natural love and affection she leaves the remainder of the estate to her nephew Thomas--son of Thomas--and also names him executor of the will Witnesses: Benjamin Douglass John Groves Ann Dent John Scrogin Edward Gardiner (mark) Then came: Benjamin Douglas, John Groves and Edward Gardiner Note: the testatrix signed the will in her own hand ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My family lines in Fauquier Co.,VA. (Seeing many familiar names that are MD names?) Order Book 1794 Madison Co. An allotment of hands to the several roads between Barrett's road and Kirtley's road and the South River below Elk Run being returned as follows, to wit: Under James Walker Jr. on the road from Wm. Walker's mill to Blunt's path the hands of Wm. Walker Sr., James Walker Jr. Alexander Bradford, John Bradford, John Breedlove, Mary Walker and overseer Robt. Beale, Joshua Lindsey, Mary Rowback, David Cave, Leroy Cannady, James Kirk and Wm. Emmons. Notes for SAMUEL STIGLER: The family did not stay long in King George County but some moved to Culpepper and Faquier Counties of Virginia. We find that James and Martha conveyed to Samuel Stigler Eldeat son 60 acres of land (Deed book 4, King George County, Virginia) 5 April 1764 for and in consideration of the natural love and affection they have for Samuel Stigler.This was the upper part of the larger tract that James Stigler holds, land adjoining that of Thomas Skinner, Joseph Harrison, Robert Peck Jr. and Captain Joseph Strother as by a survey and plot made by Benjamin Berry. Martha, also listed is a statement of fact that this was a Deed of Gift. The following year 2 May 1765, Samuel and Sarah, his wife lease this land to Joseph Harrison for 5 shillings of lawful money of Great Britian, term one whole year to be compled and Joseph Harrison "Therefore yielding and paying unto said Samuel Stigler and Sarah, his wife, the rent of one Ear of Indian Corn upon the feast of St. Michael the Arch Angel if same shall be lawfully demanded to the true intent." (Would really like to find this Harrison line.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We've also got the name Douglas 5. Back on the record from Deed Book 17, p. 548, Dec. 28, 1809, Robert and Eliz. Knox of Charles Co., Maryland to James Emmons of Fauquier Co., Va for 113 pounds for 113 acres of and beginning at James (Emmons presume) land ...to Robert McConchies line...(Robert McConchie married to Mary Ann King) Deed Book 17 pg. 722 Sep. 21, 1810 Fauquier Co. Joseph and Elizabeth EMMONS to William Stone in consideration of the sum of $868.50 for a tract of land...to Ludwells line (now McConchie's Run)...to Downman's line... to Douglas' fence...containing 198 acres. Wit: John and Samuel Blackwell, Nathl. HOMES, George Kemper, and William JONES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think I'm finding the Jones connection to my McConchie line and they appear to connect with the William R. Jones who was associated with Emmons. Have seen Fendall name in MD associated with MD McConchie and wondering about this Mary Fendall Jones? Additionally I'm seeing the Jones and Marshall names factoring into all this as well. JOHN T. JONES, apptd. by the last will and testament of William R. Jones, dec'd., gdn. of Mary Fendall Jones and William Turner Jones, orphs. of said William R. Jones, dec'd. 25 April 1859. For (So is this William Jones the one below on the Emmons land transation? I'm thinking he is and if so then we have a connection for Mary Fendall Jones . How was John T. Jones related to Charles S. Jones and Henry M. Jones? Were they all sons of William R. Jones? Charles S. Jones married Ann Childs who was daughter of James Childs and Milley McConchie (daughter of Alexander McConchie). $40,000. Set: John H. Rixey, Presley M. Rixey, Charles S. Jones. Henry M. Jones and Samuel Rixey, Jr. Does anyone see any of the Fauquier names connecting to a specific MD line? Thinking that's how I'll get lead to track Alexander McConchie and who his wife "Ann" unknown was? Open to any suggestions as to how to research. Thanks, Amanda

Sorry, I left off a few names in my previous posting that were in the Loudoun County, Va. fee books 1762-1765 ...that I know that a couple of people from this list are looking for and they are ; (1) Robert Scott for Bogle and Company (Prince William)... 1764 (2) William Harbin.... 1765...next to William Brooks, Thomas Owsley, William Shortridge and Thomas Lester. (3) Richard Coombs Assee of Anniss. (4) Joseph Coombs (50 Robert Douglass Marianne Dillow

Dear List, Found another reference to a Skinner and would like to add to finding out more about Thomas Skinner line. Just finding so many same surnames from MD in Fauquier associated with our Stigler and McConchie lines. In addition to chasing Skinner and Douglas names, I really need to find where Joseph Harrison may have come from? On Fauquier Chancery Record, Joseph P. Stigler vs. Heirs of George Stigler, I found my gg grandfather George W. McConchie named as heir of Robert King McConchie and Elizabeth Stigler. Also on this record was Henry Harrison, Granville T. Kelly, John Taliaferro, R. H. Allen, Henry Claxton, Granville Coleman, David Coleman and an "infant ____Berry" of guardian Jm. S. Bryne just to name few. One particular record of interest that can be viewed on line with Lib of VA for Fauquier Co.: (It's over 140 pages and some of it hard to read but I'm going back to do this page by page but this was what I got at first glance.) Fauqiuer Chancery Record of Ex.Jonathan Gibson Ex. Benjamin Harrison: Has many names that I believe connect to MD. The Benjamin Harrison I believe to be one. Other names I picked out from inventory were: Richard Beal, Isaac Eustace, James Wood, Hesekiah Oliver, John Shumate, and know that Langhorn Dade connects to Rose Townsend Knox, widow of Capt. Robert Knox. What caught my eye on this record was Hesekiah Oliver found married Margaret (Mahal) Lewis 5/6/1808 d/o Britain Lewis. Robert McConchie, son of Alexander in Fauquier married Mary Ann King and Britain Lewis was brother of Mary Ann King on the marriage bond. John Shumate married a Carey Smoot and his daughter Lucy Shumate married Jonathan Gibson of this Gibson/Harrison record. I'm thinking Harrison line must connect somewhere as we have Elizabeth "Betti" Harrison McConchie married to Silas Neale 18 July 1884. We can't figure out where the Harrison name comes from? Renee provided information below: Amanda this is all I have which adds to the Stigler info and possible Berry: Will Book 1, pages 219-220 King George Co., Virginia In the name of God amen, I James Stigler of the County of King George and Parish of Hanover, being in perfect health and memory do make this my last will and testament in manner and form following, first I Bequeath my Soul to God, who gave it, and my Body to the Earth to be decently Buried, at the Discretion of my Executors hersafter mentioned in sure and certain hope of Joyful Resurrection, through the merits of Jesus Christ my Savior, and for what Temporal Estate, it hath pleased God to bestow on me, I give and Bequeath as followeth. Item I give to my son Samuel Stigler five Shillings Current money. Item all the rest of my Estate Real and Personal, I leave my loving wife Martha Stigler during her natural life, and after her decease to be sold at Public auction, for cash, and the money arising there from, to be equally divided between my six children, to wit Mary, David, Agge, Catherine, Benjamin and James, and if any of my children should die, before the come of age, or marry, that his or her part of my estate shall be divided between the survivors and, I do appoint my loving Son in Law, Robert Stringfelloe, Joel Bery, and Joseph Harrison to be my Executors of this my last will and testament, herby revoking all former wills by me made, and do acknowledge, this to be my last Will and Testament in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this day of May Anno 1764. Signed & acknowledged in the Presence of us her his Jos. Strother, Mary X Harrison, James X Stigler SEAL, N. Strother mark At a Court held for King George Co. 2nd May 1765 Notes for MARTHA: Martha Stigler, James widow April 19, 1776 (deed book 5 page 1194 King George Co., Virginia) deeded the land left to her by James to son Benjamin "for supporting me in a decent manor during my life" this property then went to James Stigler, son of Benjamin who sells it ot Robert Stringfellow 6 September 1795, it was this deed that the date of purchase of the land by James (the first) was mentioned. Robert and Catherine (Stigler) Stringfellow sell the same property to John Skinner 19 May 1800. Children of JAMES STIGLER and MARTHA are: 2. i. SAMUEL2 STIGLER, b. Abt. 1720; d. Bet. March - May 1800. ii. MARY STIGLER, m. JOEL BERRY, King George Co, Viginia. iii. DAVID STIGLER. iv. PEGGY AGGE STIGLER, m. JOSEPH HARRISON. v. CATHERINE STIGLER, m. ROBERT STRINGFELLOW, King George Co, VA vi. JAMES STIGLER, m. MILDRED HACKLEY ?. Benjamin Stigler married Mary Elizabeth and had: James Stigler/Mildred Brown Martha Stigler/Daniel Routt Cathy Stigler/James Emmons William Stigler Nancy Stigler Note: Benjamin Stigler, 1777, King George, VA. Executors: Brother James Stigler, Friend James Kay. Witnesses: William Boon, Phillip Reed, James Stewart, and William Price. In the name of God Amen, I Benjamin Stigler of Hanover Parish and County of King George being very weak and weak of body but his past sins and memory of. Thanks be to Almighty God for the same do make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner and form as followeth. Linsh? I bequeath my body to the earth from whence it came and my soul to Almighty God who gave it, desiring my body to be decently buried at the hands of my executors hereafter mentioned and as for touching such worldly goods as it hath pleased Almighty God to bestow upon me. I give and bequeath as followeth - Item - I give and bequeath to my loving wife Mary Stigler all my estate during her widowed hooks? but if she should marry then my will and desire is that she shall have her dower by law only. Item - I give and bequeath to my son James Stigler all my lands after my loving wife's death or marriage to him and his heirs forever. Item - I give and bequeath to my children Martha Stigler, Cath (Catherine) Stigler, James Stigler, Nancy Stigler and William Stigler after my loving wife's death or marriage all the rest of my estate not here before bequeathed to be equally divided between them to them and their heirs forever. I do also nominate and appoint my brother James Stigler and my friend James Kay as hole and sole executor of this my last will and testament revoking all other will or wills before made by me. In order of whereunto I have set my hand and seal this 26th day of January Anno Dom 1777 sealed and acknowledged. Benjamin Stigler (Seal) In presence of us Wm (William) Boon Phillip Reed James Stewart William Price At the Court held for King George County the 2 day of October 1777 the last will and testament of Benjamin Stigler deceased as aforegoing was then presented into Court by James Stigler one of the executors therein named, who made oath thereto according to law and being further proved by the oaths of Wm Boon and Phillip Reed two of the witnesses thereto, was ordered to be recorded and on motion of the said Extr, pen forming which the law in such cases require. Certificate is granted him for obtaining a probate thereof in due form. Jas. Robinson Timeline: 19 April 1776 King George County, Virginia - Deed book 5 page 1194. Property for Martha Stigler. Benjamin Stigler inherits property from his mother, then leaves it to his son James Stigler.

Hi Amanda and List, Amanda, since you have some MD names in Fauquier which is close to Loudoun Co., formed from Fairfax Co. in 1757. I thought I would give a list of names I have in Loudoun that might provide some family information for some on the list : Loudoun County Fee Books 1762-1765 : Robert H. Harrison, Thomas Harrison, Francis Dade, Hugh West, Joshua Gore, Jr. Capt. John Moss, Junr., John Piles, Christopher Perfect, Richard Pile, Thomas Triplett, Levan Powell, Thomas Owsley, William Owsley, William Brooks, John Hough, John Poultney, Samuel Hanson and George Lee (together), John Wilcoxin, James Marshall, Francis Lightfoot Lee, Major James Hamilton, Fielding Turner, Charles Lewis, Charles Tyler (Churchwarden of Cameron Parish), Francis Marbury, Luke Marbury, Ann Beanes, (Ann, dau of George Hardey, Jr. and Lucy Dent (sister to Thomas Dent), Capt. William Douglass, Stephen Lewis, Edward Trafford, Lee Massey, Doctr. Richard Brooke, Thomas Hanson Marshall, Henry Oxley,Sr., Henry Oxley, Jr., John Oxley, John Owsley, Leonard Marbury, Nathaniel Smith, Samuel Luckett, John Hanson, Isaac Nichols (Nicholds), William Hardy, Sr, William Hardy, Jr., Benjamin Hardy, George Hardy, Sr., George Hardy, Jr., Solomon Hardy, Henry Hardy, John Hardy, Hanson Hardy, Thomas Middleton and Edward Garrett (together), Enoch McGruder, Francis Pyles, Josiah Pyles, William Luckett, John Tyler, Saml. Hanson and Smith Middleton, (F. Dade sec. for costs). Some deeds in Loudoun that I know of : William Houbey, Isaac Nicholds, Robert H. Harrison, Richard Beam ?, Michael Beam ?, Bernard Yong (Young) ?. Order books : Henry Oxley, John Tyler, Thomas Gore, Since Loudoun County was formed from Fairfax County in 1757, I have a few records from Fairfax County : (1) Fairfax County Deed Book C pp. 73-76 : Indenture 17th/18th August 1750 between John Middleton of Parish of Cameron in County of Fairfax, Planter, and Mary, his wife, and Valentine Peyton of Parish Dettingen in county of Prince William, Gent. ... 25 lbs.....150 acres of land near the Little River of GOOSE CREEK (my Hardy family lived on GOOSE CREEK), ... being the plantation whereon John Middleton now dwells and is the remaining part of a tract of land granted said John Middleton for 593 acres by patent bearing date 8th June 1841.... signed by John and Mary Middleton in the presence of Jno. Andrews, W. West, Elishee Hall, George Adams, Wm. Mackfarling, John Ethell Lease / release recorded 26th sep 1750. Fairfax County, Va. Will Book B 1752-1767 : (2) 8 Sep 1754. Josiah Brooks to Sarah Brooks Adm. Acc'ts To Pd. ; Francis Triplett for rent, John Culliham, William West, Thomas Middleton. Adm. ; Sarah, his wife. Thomas Coomes and Sarah his wife exhibit. (3) 17 Sep 1754 pp. 67-68 Henry Tren Accounts : 1754 to ; Elizabeth Lanhane her part of estate and cash pd. do. by accts. before Capt. McCarty and before Col. Fairfax, Thomas Marshall, Absolem Tren, accomodation from 5 Oct 1751- 15 Sep 1754 and 2 years of school. Bryan Aliston. By : Maj. Carlyle, William Peake, Jr., Robert Narmillion ?, Benj. Williamson. Exor ; James Paul. (4) 18 Sep 1754 pp. 68-69 Edward Garrett accounts, ; 1752 to Wm. West, William Ellzey a lawyer. By ; widow Hutson, Wm. Ware. Adm : Richard Nelson, Jr. and Elizabeth his wife. (5) Fairfax County, Va Will Book D : 18 May 1778 estate of Mary Hawkins dec'd to Francis Marberry (Marbury), Trustee for Estate. Cash pd (among others)... Thomas Kirpatrick, Samuel Hanson, Thomas Clagett, Walter Henson (Hanson), Benj. Dulany. This record names my William Hardy : (6) Fairfax County Will Book B 1752-1767 : 20 April 1756 ; pp. 106-107 William Maddy accounts : John Hough, Gabriel Adams, Mich Pike for Robert Carter esq., WILLIAM HARDY, Wm. Made, Charles Carter, Esq., Col. Grayson, Robert Adams, Thomas Wilson, Carlyle and Dalton. By ; Crop of tob. as appears by Mr. Washington, of Chas Lewis. Adm ; Elizabeth of Sylvester Murphy. I hope this benefits others on the List, Marianne Dillow

I don't see anything attached. Is your Montgomery, the France line. I am looking for more on my ggrandfather but he was a Montgomery from Ireland (as far as I can tell). Patty David Middleton Edelen II wrote: > Hello Shirley, > I am always willing and glad to share what I have, especially with distant relatives. Attached is my entire Montgomery line. I am sending it to you and the list in case someone else, another Mongomery descendent, etc, is interested. By the way, back in Ante Bellum days there was a prominent family around here by the name of Montgomery. Their two plantation houses still exist. One is a private dwelling and the other, Beuna Vista, is a public place where you can have receptions, parties, weddings, etc.. > As far as my files go, keep in mind I am no professional researcher and have never been to a court house, etc.. Everything I have was handed down by word of mouth from my grandmothers, etc, and/or info given and shared with distant relatives, people like you, and people on the forums. But as far as I know here it is. I hope you enjoy it or it is of some use to you. Let me know what you think. I have also collected a few pics of Mt. Eagle, where Benjamin Franklin Montgomery and his family lived. I am not sure if it was a farm or just a home in town. But it seems back in those days they named their homes most often. > I hope it is not too big for the list or takes up too much space. > Later, > David Middelton Edelen II > Millbrook, Al.. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On 19 Apr 2007 at 5:28, TIMOTHY AND JANET COX wrote: > So, you surmize that Permelia and John Francis may have been siblings? Well, it depends on when your Permelia was born really, but there was a Permelia Allen aged 5 in the 1860 household headed by Francis Allen (Francis Allen household, 1860 U.S. census, Charles County, Maryland, population schedule, Hill Top District, Pisgah Post Office, page 74, dwelling 590, family 586, microfilm M653 (Washington: National Archives), reel 473). In 1870 there is a household headed by A. A. Allen that includes an M. P. Allen, female, aged 14 and a J. F. Allen, male, aged 9. (A. A. Allen household, 1870 U.S. census, Charles County, Maryland, population schedule, 1st District, Pisgah Post Office, page 36, dwelling 475, family 483, microfilm M593 (Washington: National Archives), reel 584). The John Francis Allen who was buried in Pisgah Methodist Cemetery was born 23 July 1860 (John Francis Allen cemetery marker, Pisgah Methodist Cemetery, Pisgah, Charles County, Maryland; Paula L. Wiegand, 16 May 2003) I would love to hear more about you lines as I am compiling a history of Pisgah (my adopted home) and her people. Paula -- Karl's Farm Naturally grown vegetables and free range eggs Ask me what's fresh today!

Hi, Thanks for the info. So, you surmize that Permelia and John Francis may have been siblings? Actually, Mary Permelia "Polly/Polli" md. Thomas Jabez Wright. This is on my paternal side. I find it interesting about the Ethelbert Bowie connection, he is my maternal g/g/g grandfather. His daughter Mary Selena Bowie md my g/g grandfather William Wedding. The old families of the county sure did weave an intertwining web. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks again, Janet ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:59:32 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] John Francis Allen On 18 Apr 2007 at 17:39, TIMOTHY AND JANET COX wrote: > Hoping someone out there can help me. > > I suspect that John Francis Allen b. 1860 d. 1909 is possibly my g/g/grandfather. My great grandmother (paternal) was Mary Permelia (Allen) Wright. She died in 1906 and "Frank" Allen was her father, as I've seen in the family bible. The closest I can come is John Francis Allen - incidentally, he is buried at Pisgah Methodist Church in Charles Co. This is area would most likely be correct. > > If anyone knows anything about him, I'd appreciate your contacting me. I believe Mary Permelia and John Francis Allen may have been the children of Francis and Anna Allen. The family is together in the 1860 census, but by 1870 Francis had died and Anna was head of the household - also in the household at that time was Richard Wright, Sarah Josephine (Barker) Wright, his wife, and Archard E. Wright, their daughter. Anna married Ethelbert Bowie probably on 11 August 1874 (Charles County Marriages has 1873 but Ethelbert's first wife was still living at that time). Did Mary Permelia marry Wesley Wright? Paula ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Speaking of Fosters, I am connected to them in some way but can't remember the connection. It might have something to do with the Sunstones. If I can get in touch with my cousins, Rose Mary Lyons and Donald and Anne Tubman Gardiner, I am sure they would know. Anne has a lot of info right off the top of her head. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Bryantown > With all the talk about Bryantown, I am wondering if there are some among > you > who have worked on the Foster family in that area? > > M J Foster > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Shirley, I am always willing and glad to share what I have, especially with distant relatives. Attached is my entire Montgomery line. I am sending it to you and the list in case someone else, another Mongomery descendent, etc, is interested. By the way, back in Ante Bellum days there was a prominent family around here by the name of Montgomery. Their two plantation houses still exist. One is a private dwelling and the other, Beuna Vista, is a public place where you can have receptions, parties, weddings, etc.. As far as my files go, keep in mind I am no professional researcher and have never been to a court house, etc.. Everything I have was handed down by word of mouth from my grandmothers, etc, and/or info given and shared with distant relatives, people like you, and people on the forums. But as far as I know here it is. I hope you enjoy it or it is of some use to you. Let me know what you think. I have also collected a few pics of Mt. Eagle, where Benjamin Franklin Montgomery and his family lived. I am not sure if it was a farm or just a home in town. But it seems back in those days they named their homes most often. I hope it is not too big for the list or takes up too much space. Later, David Middelton Edelen II Millbrook, Al..

With all the talk about Bryantown, I am wondering if there are some among you who have worked on the Foster family in that area? M J Foster ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi List, There have been several recent postings about migrations from Maryland. One not mentioned as far as I know, is that a group of Catholic families left Maryland after the Revolutionary War and established the first Catholic community in the state of Georgia. As near as I can tell this was not motivated primarily by an interest in obtaining land, although several of the people concerned were war vets who had received land grants for their service in the War. Rather, they were encouraged by Bishop John Carroll, who, in Baltimore, had become the first Catholic bishop in the United States. He wanted to help spread Catholicism from Maryland to other states in the new nation. I believe this also helped motivate the migration of Catholic families out of Maryland to Kentucky about the same time. Some of the families involved in the Georgia migration were Thompsons, Semmes, Cratins, Lucketts, Lanhams, etc. One of the leaders of this group was my ggg grandfather, Joseph Thompson, who with his (second) wife, Elizabeth Middleton and all his children joined the trek. Later, many members of these families migrated further west to Alabama and some even made it to Texas eventually. I have visited a lot of the Georgia sites and a few years ago wrote up a history of it for my children. If any of you would find this to be of interest, I would be glad to share it with you. Cheers, Pete -- Peter T. Thompson White Horse Village email: [email protected] 535 Gradyville Road Department of Chemistry Newtown Square, PA Swarthmore College 19073 Swarthmore, PA 19081-1390 phone: 610-558-2167 fax: 610-328-7355

The only source I have is the Daniel B. Lloyd book, the Middletons and Kindred Families of Southern Maryland. We have found errors in this book so anything is possible. I was involved when Daniel was doing the research in Charles County but I did not have access to his sources and I have not been able to find his research notes/material. I really thought it would be available at the Md Historical Society but I had a no record from them. Mary Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of wpsc Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) Thanks Mary, this is great. I had Thomas Benjamin Dyer and Elizabeth Reeder as the parents of "your" Aunt Frank, but I didn't have Molly connected. Thank you for the connection. I don't remember where I got Thomas Benjamin, but are you comfortable that it was Thomas Berry? I know Reeder and Reader were spelled interchangeable in the area so I don't know about spelling--where I got that spelling. I did review some of the Mudd geneology work and this may be where I got the spelling of those names. Thanks again Mary for sharing. Patty Mary Simmons wrote: > I have always enjoyed these lists so much but hesitate to participate > because the memory does go after a certain number of years but I > remember asking my mother if Dr Edward Edelen might be related to us > and that is why I spoke up. My grandparents were William Jordan and > Mary Ellen (Dyer) Middleton. I grew up on a farm between Waldorf and > Bryantown during the depression days. My grandmother was the daughter > of Thomas Berry Dyer and Elizabeth (Reader) Dyer. Her sister was > Frances, the wife of Dr. Samuel A. Mudd. I was next to the youngest of > 10 children so I do not remember my grandparents. My grandmother lived > with my parents during her last years of life. I only remember my > mother talking about Aunt "Frank" and stories about Dr Mudd while he > was in prison. At one time my mother had one of the rare books which > contained letters from Dr Mudd to his wife while he was a prisoner but > she gave it to my younger brother for a paper he was doing in college > and the book disappeared. The years during the depression were not the > best years but we lived on a farm and knew we didn't have money but we > had a great family life. Under the 1880 census, we found my > grandparents had 2 orphan children which we believe might have been > adopted during the "Orphan Train" days when so many children were sent > out of New York. Is there anyone who might have any knowledge of these > children coming to Charles County? > > Mary R. (Middleton) Simmons > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > I had replied to Mary off the list, and in that reply, suggested that > she probably had great stories of growing up in Southern Maryland and > possibly of many of our families, too. Can she share those on the > list, or should I ask her to email me off the list with any stories > she might be willing to share? > > Thanks for the direction - > Mur > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep > me up to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but > guess I had forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have > children, nieces and nephews and family members there and we made many > trips back to MD. Yes, Dr Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. > Mary > > Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons > 2761 Knollwood Dr > Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of wpsc > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I > think > they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, > his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. > > Mary Simmons wrote: > >> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine >> as he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn >> where I worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of >> my son's heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - >> The other Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, >> Clinton, Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton >> Edelen's family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the >> Edelens of Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when >> I visited my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young >> and memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being >> there. >> >> Shirley >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >> Edelen and >> >> thought David or someone might be interested. >> Shirley >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Thanks Mary, this is great. I had Thomas Benjamin Dyer and Elizabeth Reeder as the parents of "your" Aunt Frank, but I didn't have Molly connected. Thank you for the connection. I don't remember where I got Thomas Benjamin, but are you comfortable that it was Thomas Berry? I know Reeder and Reader were spelled interchangeable in the area so I don't know about spelling--where I got that spelling. I did review some of the Mudd geneology work and this may be where I got the spelling of those names. Thanks again Mary for sharing. Patty Mary Simmons wrote: > I have always enjoyed these lists so much but hesitate to participate > because the memory does go after a certain number of years but I remember > asking my mother if Dr Edward Edelen might be related to us and that is why > I spoke up. My grandparents were William Jordan and Mary Ellen (Dyer) > Middleton. I grew up on a farm between Waldorf and Bryantown during the > depression days. My grandmother was the daughter of Thomas Berry Dyer and > Elizabeth (Reader) Dyer. Her sister was Frances, the wife of Dr. Samuel A. > Mudd. I was next to the youngest of 10 children so I do not remember my > grandparents. My grandmother lived with my parents during her last years of > life. I only remember my mother talking about Aunt "Frank" and stories about > Dr Mudd while he was in prison. At one time my mother had one of the rare > books which contained letters from Dr Mudd to his wife while he was a > prisoner but she gave it to my younger brother for a paper he was doing in > college and the book disappeared. The years during the depression were not > the best years but we lived on a farm and knew we didn't have money but we > had a great family life. Under the 1880 census, we found my grandparents had > 2 orphan children which we believe might have been adopted during the > "Orphan Train" days when so many children were sent out of New York. Is > there anyone who might have any knowledge of these children coming to > Charles County? > > Mary R. (Middleton) Simmons > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > I had replied to Mary off the list, and in that reply, suggested that she > probably had great stories of growing up in Southern Maryland and possibly > of many of our families, too. Can she share those on the list, or should I > ask her to email me off the list with any stories she might be willing to > share? > > Thanks for the direction - > Mur > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > Thanks for your update on Dr Edelen's wife - my children usually keep me up > to date on the deaths of people we knew in Charles County but guess I had > forgotten. I moved out of Waldorf in 1971 but we have children, nieces and > nephews and family members there and we made many trips back to MD. Yes, Dr > Edelen's family is the Bryantown family. Mary > > Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons > 2761 Knollwood Dr > Montgomery, AL 36116-3816 > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of wpsc > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > > I don't know if these two different lines are connected or not. I think > they probably are. I do know that Dr. Edelen's wife died in 1990. And, > his Edelen family was from the line in Bryantown. > > Mary Simmons wrote: > >> I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >> Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, >> Charles County, my mother always told me there were two separate >> Edelen family lines although they may have been distantly related in >> the very early years. The Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area >> were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward >> Edelen whose widow still lives in Port Tobacco was a friend of mine as >> he was on the board of directors of the savings and loan assn where I >> worked when my children were small. He also sewed up one of my son's >> heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down some steps - The other >> Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county area, Clinton, >> Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton Edelen's >> family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens of >> Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited >> my sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and >> memories do fade but if there are others who have more definite >> information I will be very happy to be updated with new information. >> Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) >> still lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a >> manuscript on the Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. >> Mary's Co. -- that is the only reason I know of her still being there. >> >> Shirley >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >> Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) >> >> >> No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw >> Edelen and >> >> thought David or someone might be interested. >> Shirley >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of >> the message >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Hi List, My last contact with Vivian Edelen was a Christmas card, still written in that impeccable handwriting! She is quite the lady as several of you have affirmed and I hope she is as spry as ever. One of her daughters, whom I have not met is also quite interested in family history, so that is probably another rich source of history about the Edelen family. Vivian used to be a docent at the Mudd museum and is a treasure trove of Charles County history. Cheers, Pete >I have been very interested in the messages/comments concerning the >Sunnyside Farm and the Edelen family. When I grew up in Waldorf, Charles >County, my mother always told me there were two separate Edelen family lines >although they may have been distantly related in the very early years. The >Edelen family who lived in Bryantown area were mainly Bowlings, Boarmans, >and Edelens, for example. Dr Edward Edelen whose widow still lives in Port >Tobacco was a friend of mine as he was on the board of directors of the >savings and loan assn where I worked when my children were small. He also >sewed up one of my son's heads with about 30 stitches after he fell down >some steps - The other Edelen family lived in the Prince George's county >area, Clinton, Piscataway, and the Berry Road area where David Middleton >Edelen's family lived. These are the Middleton relatives - not the Edelens >of Bryantown area - I visited these Edelen members often when I visited my >sister who lived in Piscataway. I am now 82 years young and memories do fade >but if there are others who have more definite information I will be very >happy to be updated with new information. Mary R.(Middleton) Simmons, >[email protected] > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:43 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > >I do believe that Vivian Boone Edelen (who must be her eighties now) still >lives at Sunnyside Farm in Charles Co. She compiled a manuscript on the >Bowling family of Charles, Prince George's and St. Mary's Co. -- that is the >only reason I know of her still being there. > >Shirley > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 7:59 PM >Subject: [MDCHARLE] Friendship (Sunnyside) > > >No one mentioned Sunnyside, but as I was browsing the names I saw Edelen and > >thought David or someone might be interested. >Shirley > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of >the message >________________________________________________________________________ >AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from >AOL at AOL.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Peter T. Thompson White Horse Village email: [email protected] 535 Gradyville Road Department of Chemistry Newtown Square, PA Swarthmore College 19073 Swarthmore, PA 19081-1390 phone: 610-558-2167 fax: 610-328-7355

On 18 Apr 2007 at 17:39, TIMOTHY AND JANET COX wrote: > Hoping someone out there can help me. > > I suspect that John Francis Allen b. 1860 d. 1909 is possibly my g/g/grandfather. My great grandmother (paternal) was Mary Permelia (Allen) Wright. She died in 1906 and "Frank" Allen was her father, as I've seen in the family bible. The closest I can come is John Francis Allen - incidentally, he is buried at Pisgah Methodist Church in Charles Co. This is area would most likely be correct. > > If anyone knows anything about him, I'd appreciate your contacting me. I believe Mary Permelia and John Francis Allen may have been the children of Francis and Anna Allen. The family is together in the 1860 census, but by 1870 Francis had died and Anna was head of the household - also in the household at that time was Richard Wright, Sarah Josephine (Barker) Wright, his wife, and Archard E. Wright, their daughter. Anna married Ethelbert Bowie probably on 11 August 1874 (Charles County Marriages has 1873 but Ethelbert's first wife was still living at that time). Did Mary Permelia marry Wesley Wright? Paula