Stephen Clark married Elizabeth Cooling 10 Dec 1816. Rev Duke. Is anyone working on Clarks who can identify this Elizabeth Cooling? I have a good amount of Cooling information to share. She could be the daughter of John and Lydia (Arnott) but I have only two sons listed. Cathy

Since somebody pointed that history is closely associated with genealogy, and our last post on the subject generated such interest, I have attached the following. I will not, however, vouch for the veracity of same. Bob Wilson Some interesting history facts.... The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s: Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children-last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs" There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house, that posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy bed's came into existence The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt.. Hence the saying, "dirt poor The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway. Hence the saying a "thresh hold" In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man "could bring home the bacon". They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper crust Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake" England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer And that's the truth... Now, whoever said that History was boring !!!

The DE Roster of Civil War Soldiers on the Bits of Blue and Gray website now goes to and includes Sylvester, Thomas. <A HREF="http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/roster.htm">http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/roster.htm</A> <A HREF="http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/squibb_sylvester.htm">http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/squibb_sylvester.htm</A> I hope this helps someone. Please excuse multiple postings as I've sent to several list. Jayne McCormick [email protected] <A HREF="http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/index.htm">bitsofblueandgray.com</A>

Jamie: I don't have any information on the McLean family but the combination of Wroth and Hanson in Mrs. Margaret McLean's name caught my attention. My wife and I were researching the deeds to our Kent County, MD farm last week at the Maryland Archives in Annapolis. In a deed dated 6 Jan 1845 (Liber JNG 10, folios 53-56), Peregrine WROTH, Catharine WROTH his wife, and Lavinia HANSON sold an undivided half of the farm called "Morton" or "Fox Hole" on the Sassafras River to Joseph GRIFFITH for $2300. Catharine and Lavinia were identified in the deed as sisters who inherited their share of the property from their mother Sarah R. HANSON. Peregrine WROTH is referred to in a later deed as Doct[or]. If this is of interest, perhaps you should try posting a message on the Kent County, MD mailing list. [email protected] (Arlen W. Frank)

Thank you Arlen! I will add this information to my files. I've done some Kent Co research and if memory serves me correctly, Wm and Margaret married in Kent Co. I almost missed it because Wm's last name was listed as Lean in the records. Peregrine's name and his profession seem to have passed down through many generations of Wroth's as well. Best Wishes, Jamie

Hi Listers, I read the FAQs several times yesterday before I made my first list post. When I found my post in the archives, I noticed two problems: 1. My post didn't attach to the 2002 thread I referenced; and 2. My FROM name came out JAMIEMAC as opposed to my name followed by my email address in < >'s. Can someone write what I should do in the future? Thanks, Jamie Perez

Message-id: <00c101c22921$2cdaedc0 [email protected]> (I hope I'm doing this right. This is my first posting on my first mailing list. :-)) Hi Tim! I just joined this mailing list after reading your 2002 postings in the archives. I can't access http://www.timrobinson.scriptingoff.com. Is it still up? This is a genealogy S-O-S. HELP! I'm trying to find the ancestry of Cornelius McLEAN Sr. who died on Sep 12, 1836, at his Washington, DC, residence on 7th St. at the age of 62. In addition to trying to find his burial location in DC, I am also investigating the possibility that he is buried with his children in Baltimore. Four of his six children lived most of their lives in Baltimore. I'm looking for anything dealing with the death dates and burial locations of the following siblings and their spouses: Dr. Charles McLean - last found on 1880 Baltimore Census Spouse: Mrs. Margaret M. Campbell McLean - last found on 1890 Baltimore City Directory living at 1120 Linden Ave William H. McLean - last found on 1890 Baltimore City Directory in business at 211 Calvert Spouse: Mrs. Margaret A. Wroth Hanson McLean - last found on 1880 Baltimore Census living with husband Wm in the home of her brother Dr. John Worth[sic], head of household George W. McLean - last found on 1890 Baltimore City Directory in business at 211 Calvert Spouse: Mrs. Eliza Jane Shriver McLean - died on JUN 19, 1907 - death notice in JUN 20, 1907, Baltimore Sun has her as a widow of George who died at 205(?) Lennox St. Mrs. Eliza McLean Hardesty/Hardisty - last found on 1860 Baltimore Census Spouse: John Hardesty/Hardisty - last found in an 1855 will excerpt for Baltimore Other: They all seemed to be Episcopalian. I've read about an Evan's Funeral Chapel that dates back to the mid 1800s in that area of Baltimore. Can you access their records? Because you live in Catonsville, would you have access to records on their Reservoir Hill/Bolton Hill addresses of 1120 Linden and 205 Lennox? Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Jamie Perez

Since so many of our ancestors in the rivers, bays, and ocean along the eastern seaboard were engaged in careers as sailors and other seagoers, as well as in farming (the other major natural resource industry!), this was interesting information that helps flesh out the images of life surrounding our ancestors. I am sorry some folks were insulted/outraged/etc., perhaps due to the origin of what is today a common prejorative term. Nevertheless, the products (and byproducs) that impacted the shipping and sailing in that area are quite interesting history in themselves. Karen Carter Minneapolis, MN

This site is interesting in that while giving a derivation of "the word" and telling us what it doesn't mean, it never gives a definition of "it". Unless you look up "scitan". If anybody wants to jump in with anything concerning genealogy, feel free to do so : - ). Bob Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Minton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Useful Info : see the following site. : http://www.wordorigins.org/wordors.htm : : : --------------------------------- : Do you Yahoo!? : Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software : : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 : :

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Hello friends, When I read the post about dried manure exploding becoming being the origin for a word I was skeptical. Would mature be a item that would be sent by ship during the 17th and 18th century? The cost of collecting and drying the material would have been relatively high, farmers would be making their own locally and have very little cash for its purchase if they needed it. Shippers could realize greater profits with other cargo. I have seen advertisements in the middle of the 19th century offering bat guano from South America, however. So, I thought I would do a little investigating. The American Heritage Dictionary says the word is from Middle English from Old English. The Oxford English Dictionary shows examples of it usage as early as 1308. I do not mind the post except the person posting it should have checked its authenticity before posting this piece of "useful history". One would have just gone to their dictionary to have seen where the word had originated. See the following site for an explanation of this urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/shit.htm Now lets get back to genealogy and real history. Will Brown > I THOUGH THIS VERY USEFUL IS HISTORY AND I THANK SHIRLEY FOR SENDING THIS > SHE TOLD US THINGS WE DID NOT KNOW ,,,THIS LIST IS FOR GENEALOGY > WHICH IS HISTORY > Charlie Jones

Gracious me. Aren't we getting serious? This is a "joke'' that has been circulating on mailing lists for years (genealogy lists apparently being the exception). I can't believe anybody really believed it was true. At least the "golf" comment at the end should have given it away. Bob Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Useful Info-Not! : Hello friends, : When I read the post about dried manure exploding becoming being the origin : for a word I was skeptical. Would mature be a item that would be sent by : ship during the 17th and 18th century? The cost of collecting and drying the : material would have been relatively high, farmers would be making their own : locally and have very little cash for its purchase if they needed it. : Shippers could realize greater profits with other cargo. I have seen : advertisements in the middle of the 19th century offering bat guano from : South America, however. : : So, I thought I would do a little investigating. The American Heritage : Dictionary says the word is from Middle English from Old English. The Oxford : English Dictionary shows examples of it usage as early as 1308. : : I do not mind the post except the person posting it should have checked its : authenticity before posting this piece of "useful history". One would have : just gone to their dictionary to have seen where the word had originated. : See the following site for an explanation of this urban legend. : : http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/shit.htm : : Now lets get back to genealogy and real history. : : Will Brown : : : : > I THOUGH THIS VERY USEFUL IS HISTORY AND I THANK SHIRLEY FOR SENDING THIS : > SHE TOLD US THINGS WE DID NOT KNOW ,,,THIS LIST IS FOR GENEALOGY : > WHICH IS HISTORY : > Charlie Jones : : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 : :

Thanks for the latest poop on this. -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Jones [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Useful Info-Not! I THOUGH THIS VERY USEFUL IS HISTORY AND I THANK SHIRLEY FOR SENDING THIS SHE TOLD US THINGS WE DID NOT KNOW ,,,THIS LIST IS FOR GENEALOGY WHICH IS HISTORY Charlie Jones > This was totally inappropriate to be sent out over this list, and it > should not be repeated. This had nothing whatsoever to do with > genealogy, and should have been deleted by the listowner before > it ever got on the sight. > Leave the garbage to private emails, as it has no place on a > genealogy list. > > Timothy L. Robinson > Baltimore, Maryland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Goad" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:29 PM > Subject: [MDCECIL] Useful Info > > > | Exciting historical information you need to know about shipping Manure: > | > > | >In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship. > | > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Baltimore - Marriages St. Josephs Roman Catholic Church Page #1 = 1839 July 14, 1839 ( Harrington & Barney ) GEORGE HARRINGTON to CAROLINE W. BARNEY Wit: Mrs. Barney & Marie M. Barney July 29, 1839 ( Mc Kewen & Freeburger ) SAMUEL Mc KEWEN to MARY JANE FREEBERGER Wit: Arch. McKewen, Geo. Freeberger, Mrs. Freeberger August 28, 1839 ( Postell & Barney ) WILLIAM POSTELL to MARIA MONROE BARNEY Wit: Nath. Williams, D.A.Alexander, Mrs. Barney, Ann Barney November 19, 1839 ( Waller & Raden ) BASIL WALLER to MARY ANN RADEN Wit: Francis McGinnis, Mary McGuck December 12, 1839 ( Davis & Evans ) JOHN DAVIS to THERESA ANN EVANS Wit: Wm. Boardley, Mary Winsett, Cecelia Hutchins December 25, 1839 ( Farmer & Reily ) PATRICK FARMER to CATHARINE REILY Wit: Christopher Cooney, Mary A. Cooney Page #2 = 1840 January 7, 1840 ( Brady & O'Farrell ) PATRICK BRADY to HANNAH O'FARRELL Wit: Mc Bready, Mary McKey January 14, 1840 ( Robertson & Duchemin ) GEORGE M. ROBERTSON to MARY A. DUCHEMIN Wit: Thomas A. Robertson, Jas. Crawford, Napoleon Robertson, Mary E. Albertson January 27, 1840 ( McCann & Ryan ) THOMAS Mc CANN to MARY RYAN Wit: John Ryan, Pat McGraw, Henrietta & Elizabeth Ryan February 22, 1840 ( Knapp & Neale ) FREDERICK H. KNAPP to SOPHIA A. NEALE Wit: James Neale April 19, 1840 ( Dougherty & Monaghan ) THOMAS DOUGHERTY to SARAH MONAGHAN Wit: Dan'l O'Neil, Biddy Mc Laheney Page #3 = 1840 May 21, 1840 ( Morgan & Marfat ) WILLIAM T. MORGAN to ANN MARIA MARFAT Wit: Thos. Weedon, Eliza King June 16, 1840 ( Logue & Roche ) JOHN C. LOGUE to ISABELLE V. ROCHE Wit: John A. Wickersham, Mary Eckle Mrs. Roche, Mrs. Logue July 16, 1840 ( Cook & Noblet ) LOUIS G. COOK to MARY A. NOBLET Wit: Mr. Cook, Mr. Loblet, Jane Noblet Oct. 22, 1840 ( Laralde to Blache ) EDWARD LARALDE to ARMANCE BLACHE Wit: Peter Cherbonier , Mrs. V. Cherbonier October 25, 1840 ( Harrig & Randolph ) JOHN FREDERICK HARRIG to MARY JANE RANDOLPH Wit: Augustus Harrig, Rebecca Lambert Page #4 = 1840 November 15, 1840 ( Eberhart & Potee ) HENRY EBERHART to ELIZABETH ANN POTEE Wit: Mrs. Potee November 29, 1840 ( Feany & Dougherty ) JAMES FEANY to ELEANOR DOUGHERTY Wit: James Mulhas, Cath. Bready, M. Dougherty December 6, 1840 ( Merritt & Jones ) JOHN MERRITT to HENRIETTA (JONES) HUTTON Wit: Henry Corder, Julia Jones December 9, 1840 ( Hayes & Cheni ) JOHN HAYES to ADELINE FRANCES CHENI Wit: Mrs. Brady, Elizabeth Hayes December 24, 1840 ( McNeale & Parsons ) HUGH McNEALE to ELIZABETH PARSONS Wit: John McMullan , Margaret Parsons Page #5 = 1841 April 13, 1841 ( Keene & Tubman ) VAITDRELL KEENE to MARY ANN TUBMAN Wit: Henry & Susan Keene, several others! April 30, 1841 ( McGuire & Kelley ) THOMAS Mc GUIRE to JANE KELLEY Wit: High Mc Guire, Mary Mc Guire May 2, 1841 ( Gardner & Nouvell ) WILLIAM GARDNER to ANN NOUVELL Wit: George Endley, Ellen Gradner May 25, 1841 ( Sapp & Walstrum ) JOSEPH FRANCIS SAPP to ELIZABETH ANN WALSTRUM Wit: John Hanson, Mary Hanson July 12, 1841 ( Thompson & Smith ) THOMAS THOMPSON to ELIZABETH SMITH Wit: John Granger, Marth Faris, Issabella Smith ***************************************** end **

I THOUGH THIS VERY USEFUL IS HISTORY AND I THANK SHIRLEY FOR SENDING THIS SHE TOLD US THINGS WE DID NOT KNOW ,,,THIS LIST IS FOR GENEALOGY WHICH IS HISTORY Charlie Jones > This was totally inappropriate to be sent out over this list, and it > should not be repeated. This had nothing whatsoever to do with > genealogy, and should have been deleted by the listowner before > it ever got on the sight. > Leave the garbage to private emails, as it has no place on a > genealogy list. > > Timothy L. Robinson > Baltimore, Maryland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Goad" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:29 PM > Subject: [MDCECIL] Useful Info > > > | Exciting historical information you need to know about shipping Manure: > | > > | >In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship. > | > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003

This was totally inappropriate to be sent out over this list, and it should not be repeated. This had nothing whatsoever to do with genealogy, and should have been deleted by the listowner before it ever got on the sight. Leave the garbage to private emails, as it has no place on a genealogy list. Timothy L. Robinson Baltimore, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Goad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: [MDCECIL] Useful Info | Exciting historical information you need to know about shipping Manure: | > | >In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship. |

Inappropriate or not, you have to lighten up, Timothy. You'll live longer. This type of stuff, and much worse, pops every now and then on all of the lists. Some people show indignation while others silently chuckle. Bob Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy L. Robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Useful Info-Not! : This was totally inappropriate to be sent out over this list, and it : should not be repeated. This had nothing whatsoever to do with : genealogy, and should have been deleted by the listowner before : it ever got on the sight. : Leave the garbage to private emails, as it has no place on a : genealogy list. : : Timothy L. Robinson : Baltimore, Maryland : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Shirley Goad" <[email protected]> : To: <[email protected]> : Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:29 PM : Subject: [MDCECIL] Useful Info : : : | Exciting historical information you need to know about shipping Manure: : | > : | >In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship. : | : : : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 : :

Exciting historical information you need to know about shipping Manure: > >In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship. >It was also before commercial fertilizer's invention, so large shipments of >manure were common. It was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a >lot less than when wet. >But once water (at sea) hit it, it not only became heavier, but the process >of fermentation began again, of which a by-product is methane gas. >As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and >did) happen. Methane began to build up below decks and the first time >someone came below at night with a lantern: BOOOOM! >Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was determined just >what was happening. After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped >with the term "Ship High In Transit" on them which meant for the sailors to >stow it high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into >the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of >methane. >Thus evolved the term "S.H.I.T.," which has come down through the centuries >and is in use to this very day. >You probably did not know the true history of this word. >Neither did I. >I always thought it was a golf term.

Though I am not actually working on the Horsey family, I have gathered a tremendous amount of information on them since Outerbridge Horsey was guardian of my George Wailes Moore. And through him I found that Outerbridge's mother and George's mother were both Wailes. Yes, I did read that they had come to Somerset Co, Md from Va. I don't have the county in front of me but I think it is this one. It seems that many people in that area came across the water from VA in the 1600s. My Simpers family may have come from Nonsemond Co, VA to Calvert Co, MD to Cecil Co, MD. I'm still trying to prove that. Nonsemond Co records were burned. I have Alexanders in Cecil Co and have established to my satisfaction at least that there were five different groups. One, the famous group, went to NC before the Revolution. I have no idea where my Alexanders came from to Cecil co at beginning of 1700s. Cathy CAthy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [MDCECIL] Moore, Horsey, Spence, Robins > Cathy, > The book by Worth Ray suggested that our Alexanders came with Horsey to > Somerset County from Northhampton Co Virginia----I believe. > Do you have any other material that states that as a fact. I wonder if that > was speculation. We have not found any written material on the William > Alexander Sr. and his son William Jr. as being in Virginia. > > Helen > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Cathy, The book by Worth Ray suggested that our Alexanders came with Horsey to Somerset County from Northhampton Co Virginia----I believe. Do you have any other material that states that as a fact. I wonder if that was speculation. We have not found any written material on the William Alexander Sr. and his son William Jr. as being in Virginia. Helen