----- Original Message ----- From: MESSEAR To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: MESSEAR Results on 02-20-2001 07:39:07 Your MESSEAR account uses [email protected] as the email address. Please use that address for any changes at MESSEAR. +OK Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:33:38 -0500 Reply-To: Mattie Mitchell <[email protected]> From: Mattie Mitchell <[email protected]> Subject: Dialects of our ancestors <<<===--- To: [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------v Found: |huff --------------------------------------------------------------^ MESSEAR ver. 2.09agh www.edelsoft.net/messear Dear Listers, A family story about my female ancestors is that after they came to America, they spoke a dialect or language called Plod or Plat that was about half-German and half-Polish, and were rebuked by their husbands because they were only supposed to speak High German. They all came from the Gostynin, Poland area, near the Vistula by Plock. Has anyone ever heard anything or can tell me about it?? Mattie Mitchell RESEARCHING in Gostynin District Poland: Scheler, Schultz, Kasper, Weiss, -->Myslak, Schoning, Bohm, Kryger, Riemer, Huff, Gust, Nikkel, Pryer, Brand, -------------------------------------------^^^^ Rygebrecht, Jost, Wall, Fischbuch, Hohenstein. ~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~ +OK Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:06:48 -0500 Reply-To: [email protected] From: terry <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dialects of our ancestors <<<===--- To: [email protected] In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------v Found: |huff --------------------------------------------------------------^ MESSEAR ver. 2.09agh www.edelsoft.net/messear language and linguistics info on german-russian-portal.org, search under Plattdeutsch Plattdeutsch was the dominate dialect until the reformation...more at the web site... | -----Original Message----- | From: Germans from Russia Genealogy and Family Research | [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Nelson Itterman | Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:52 PM | To: [email protected] | Subject: Re: Dialects of our ancestors | | | Hi Mattie: | My dictionary says Platt or Plattdeutsch is Low German. | Nelson | | Mattie Mitchell wrote: | | > Dear Listers, | > A family story about my female ancestors is that | after they came to | > America, they spoke a dialect or language called Plod or | Plat that was about | > half-German and half-Polish, and were rebuked by their | husbands because they | > were only supposed to speak High German. They all came | from the Gostynin, | > Poland area, near the Vistula by Plock. Has anyone ever | heard anything or | > can tell me about it?? | > | > Mattie Mitchell | > RESEARCHING in Gostynin District Poland: Scheler, | Schultz, Kasper, Weiss, -->| > Myslak, Schoning, Bohm, Kryger, Riemer, Huff, Gust, -----------------------------------------------^^^^ | Nikkel, Pryer, Brand, | > Rygebrecht, Jost, Wall, Fischbuch, Hohenstein. | ~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~ +OK Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:09:47 -0600 Reply-To: Michael Miller <[email protected]> From: Michael Miller <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dialects of our ancestors (fwd) <<<===--- To: [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------v Found: |huff --------------------------------------------------------------^ MESSEAR ver. 2.09agh www.edelsoft.net/messear ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:41:08 -0600 From: Michael Miller <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Dialects of our ancestors To: [email protected] Mattie, Please to to the GRHC website at the "Introduction" section, and then go to the "Bibliography" section where you will find the Basic Bibliography and the Advanced Bibliography relating to Germans from Russia dialect study. I would recommend that you carefully review this section for valuable references and resources. The bibliographies were prepared in 2000. Michael Michael M. Miller, Bibliographer Germans from Russia Heritage Collection North Dakota State University Libraries P.O. Box 5599 Fargo, ND 58105-5599 USA Tel: 701-231-8416 Fax: 701-231-7138 E-mail: [email protected] Germans from Russia Heritage Collection Website: http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc Personal Home Page: http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/biography.html On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Mattie Mitchell wrote: > Dear Listers, > A family story about my female ancestors is that after they came to > America, they spoke a dialect or language called Plod or Plat that was about > half-German and half-Polish, and were rebuked by their husbands because they > were only supposed to speak High German. They all came from the Gostynin, > Poland area, near the Vistula by Plock. Has anyone ever heard anything or > can tell me about it?? > > Mattie Mitchell > RESEARCHING in Gostynin District Poland: Scheler, Schultz, Kasper, Weiss, -->> Myslak, Schoning, Bohm, Kryger, Riemer, Huff, Gust, Nikkel, Pryer, Brand, ---------------------------------------------^^^^ > Rygebrecht, Jost, Wall, Fischbuch, Hohenstein. > ~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~ #### Visit our sponsor ################################################# # what kind of book are you looking for? # # Hard to find # # Out of print # # Check out Barnes & Noble # ##################### at http://www.edelsoft.net/messear/ads/bn.htm #### 3 messages found for you after searching 1071 messages. -----------------------------------------------------------------------v MESSEAR search results are sent to you because you subscribed to the MESSEAR system. 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I have recently found part of my MENGES line buried at St. Mary's Luth./Ref. Cemetery in Silver Run. The individuals listed there include: Sarah (w/o Edward) - d. 10 Jun 1855, 36-11-19 [this was his first wife] Christina (w/o Jacob) - d. 6 Aug 1847, 70-0-14 [Edward's grandfather] Two young children, Infant daughter and Joseph. The name is spelled MONGES on the tombstones. I am hoping that someone may be able to share more on this family including information on the above Jacob and Edward. I know Jacob was born and married in York Co., PA. In the 1850 census, Edward and his wife Sarah were living next door to his father (Jacob's son), Daniel MENGES in Adams Co., PA. Also, are there any census records between 1840 and 1870 referring to these Menges? Any help would be appreciated. Don Lerew [email protected]

Does anyone have info on Daniel and Martha Ellen Bair ? Judy

Does anyone here know where Fanny's Meadow is ? It is mentioned in a land record , but being from Oregon I have no clue as to if it is still called that. Is anyone research the John Thomas Strevig that bought this property from my Huff line ? Judy

Book 98 9/26/1903 204 Edward F. Huff Ex'tr ) This deed made this twenty sixth day of September Deed to ) in the year nineteen hundred and three by Edward John Thomas Strevig ) F. Huff executor as hereinafter mentioned, Witnesseth that whereas a certain Gershom Huff late of Carroll County, Maryland departed this life leaving a last will and testament which was duly admitted to probate in the Orphan's Court of Carroll County and recorded in the office of the Register of Wills of said County in Liber J.D.B. No. 9 folio 187 etc., in which said last will and testament the said Edward F. Huff was appointed executor will power and authority to sell the Real Estate of said deceased, and whereas the said executor in pursuance of the power and authority vested in him by said will and by the order of the Orphan's Court of Carroll County, did sell at public sale all that particular hereinafter described Real Estate unto a certain John Thomas Strevig at and for the sum of $240.00 which said sale was reported to the Orphan's Court of Carroll county on the 14th day of September A.D. 1903, and whereas the said purchase money has been fully paid and satisfied to said executor by the said purchases. Now therefore this deed witnesseth that for and consideration of the said sum of Two hundred and forty dollars the said Edward F. Huff of Carroll County, Maryland, executor as aforesaid does hereby grant and convey unto the said John Thomas Strevig of Carroll County all that tract or parcel of land called "Fanny's Meadow"situate lying and being in Westminster in said County containing one acre and twenty square perches of land more or less and is the same tract or parcel of land that was conveyed to the said Gershom Huff by Ferdinand E. Coates and Catherine Coates his wife by deed bearing date March 27th A.D. 1888 and recorded among the land records of Carroll County in Liber J.M.B. No. 98 folio 107 etc. as by reference to said deed will more fully appear> To have and hold the above described property unto the said John Thomas Strevig his heirs and assigns forever in fee simple. Witness my hand and seal. Witness. Edward F. Huff James F. Rinker Executor of the last Will and Testament of Gershom Huff deceased State of Maryland, Carroll County to wit: I hereby certify that on this twenty sixth day of September in the year nineteen hundred and three before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace of the State of Maryland in and for Carroll County aforesaid personally appeared Edward F. Huff executor of the last will and testament of Gershom Huff deceased and acknowledged the aforegoing deed to __________ his act and deed as such executor. James F. Rinker J.P. Received for record September 26, 1903 at 100 P.M.and same day recorded & ex'c per Jas. H. Billingslea, Clerk

Posted on: Carroll County Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Md/Carroll/165 Surname: Luckenbaugh ------------------------- Looking for the PARENTS of Michael and Barbara(?) Luckenbaugh. Michael was born 6June1807. Died 27January1871. Barbara(unknown maiden name)was born 11Decemer1810. Died 27January1884. Both are buried in Dubbs Church Cemetery, West Manheim Township, York County. I thought possibly the parents of this married couple lived in Carroll County, MD. I also have no marriage date. There first child was born around 1830. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

68 3 Edward F. Huff & wife) This Deed made this twenty ninth Deed to ) day of March in the year One Gershom Huff )thousand eight hundred and )eighty eight by Edward F. Huff and Mary E Huff his wife of Carroll County in the State of Maryland Wittnesseth that for and in consideration of the sum of two hundred dollars the receipt of which is hereby acknowledged, the said , Edward F. Huff and Mary E. Huff his wife do grant unto Gershom Huff of this County and State aforesaid his heirs and assigns in fee simple all the following described pieces or parcel s of land situate lying and being in Carroll County in the state of Maryland being part of a tract of land called "Ohio" The first lot containing one acre three roods and twenty eight perches of land more or less. The Second lot containing one acre three roods and thirty six perches of land more or less.The third lot containing one acre and thirty six perches of land more or less and the fourth lot containing one acre and two roods of land more or less and containing aggregate the quantity of six acres two roods and twenty perches of land more or less. It being the same land conveyed to the said Edward F. Huff by Joseph Cookson and wife by deed bearing date March 24, 1884 , and recorded among the land Records of Carroll County in Liber F.T.S. No. 60 folio - granting the same privileges and subject to the same reservations and mentioned in the aforesaid deed. Together with the building and improvements thereon and the rights roadways water privileges appurtenances and advantages to the same Edward F. Huff and Mary E. Huff his wife conveyed and that they will execute such further assurances as may be requisites. Witness the hands and seals of the said Grantors. Test Geo W. Matthews Edward F. Huff Mary E Huff State of Maryland, Carroll County, to wit: I hereby certify that on this twenty ninth day of March in the year Eighteen hundred and eighty eight before the ???????? a justice of the Peace of the state of Maryland in and for Carroll County aforesaid personally appeared Edward F. Huff and Mary E. Huff his wife and each acknowledged the foregoing deed to be their respective act. Received for Record May 11 1888 and same day recorded & Ex'r per Wm. A. Martin clerk

CLEM,CLEMM, KLEM, etc. BARNES, BARNS,etc.

My Carroll County Surnames Include: BOWERS GRIMM HALTER HARMON/HARMAN/HERMAN HOGE HYSER LEMMON/LEMON Dennis Herman [email protected]

I am sesearching for following Carroll County families REAVER BLAXSTEN LEISTER LAMBERT STULTZ HYDE - HYDER LONG (taylorsville area) CONDON Lets exchange information, Dennis Reaver

I am researching the following surnames: REESE - Hampstead GORRELL MARKER Ernie Reese

I am researching the surname BEAMER. I am specifically looking for connections to Henry BEAMER born ca. 1760-1770. At this point, I would like to communicate with anyone researching the surname BEAMER and any variations. I am becoming less and less sure of what I have. My gggrandfather was Samuel BEAMER born 1812 in MD, he married Maria Shank of Washington Co. in 1847 in Waynesboro, PA. A researcher has suggested that Samuel's father was Henry but I have no proof of that. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Donna

I am researching family members in Westminster, Hampstead, Woolery area with surname of Boerner Shafer Leppo Arnold Lockard [email protected] -- Carolyn Gordon [email protected]

RIGHTER's from PA to MD early 1800's to present Jacqui (Righter)Baylis [email protected]

Researching DURBIN families of Samuel, son Thomas, son Dann, Son Nicholas, and their respective wives and families. Willing to share information.. Time period of primary interest is late 1600's to the 1850's. Areas of Little Pipe Creek and Pipe Creek, Carroll County, Md, Adams County, Pa, and Morgan County, Oh. [email protected] Queenstown, Md

Researching GEORGE BROWN and MARY STEVENSON, who lived in Frederick County, now Carroll County around 1714. JAMES BROWN (Related thru HUGH BROWN, GEORGE'S youngest Son) Please email to James Brown [email protected]

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Searching for OHLERS in Carroll County Please email "A.R."<[email protected]

I am researching Franklin's in Carroll Co. Thomas Franklin came from Baltimore Co. in 1745 and settled in what became the Franklin District. Also researching Basil Grimes, 1775 who married Betsey Pickett. Kitty Franklin who married James Hood. Sarah Ann Hooper who Married Charles G. Franklin. Debbie Franklin Krauss _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

William Fisher b MD 1822 Clarissa Gain Fisher b MD 1825 Two known children, Mary and William. Does anyone have info re above in their data base. Mary