---- Original Message ----- From: <HMWEBBER@aol.com> To: <MDCAROLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:38 AM Subject: [MDCAROLI] NICHOLS & other Familes of Caroline Co., MD Hi Helen, You can see what I have on this Nichols family on my gedcom at WorldConnect; http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=trishaann&id=I126 37 You may have to copy and paste the above in if your email window is too small. See ya, Parker

Good morning list, I'm trying to locate the descendants of James A. NICHOLS, b. 10 Apr 1852 & his wife Mary Catherine FRAMPTON, b. 1854 in Caroline Co., MD. These are the children that I know of: Lacy W. NICHOLS, c1879 (never married) Walter J. NICHOLS, b. 6 May 1880 m. Fannie Harry T. NICHOLS, b. c1884 m. Sarah Effie HOWETH (no children) Elizabeth NICHOLS, b. c 1887 (no info) NOTE: They all appear to have been born in Federalsburg, Caroline Co., MD I'm, also, interested in the descendants of the following children of James NICHOLS & his first & second wife: First wife Rhoda: Deliah NICHOLS, b. 26 OCT 1837 (no info) Silas NICHOLS, b. c1841 (no info) Greensbury NICHOLS, b. 1 Mar 1842 (no info) Second wife Ellen "Nellie" SULLIVAN Francis NICHOLS, b. 1849 (no info) Baynard NICHOLS, b. 1851 (no info) Robinson NICHOLS, b. 1854 m. Mary Ann NICHOLS (3 children) Oscar, b. 1876 m. Lydia PATTON (4 children) Dorsey, b. 1900 m. Lynnie WRIGHT Sarah, b. 1902 (d. young) Mary, b. 1904 m. Elias COLLINS (2 children) Vernon, b. 1910 (may have had children) 1st wife m. Susanne CORKILL (no info) 2nd wife m. Louise MANNOLINI (no info) Harvey, b. 1881 (no know children) Nellie, b. 1886 (no children) Amanda NICHOLS, b. 1857 m. James Marcus WRIGHT (4 children) Emma NICHOLS, b. 1859 m. Charles Wesley EDGELL (3 children) William NICHOLS, b. 1861 m. Lydia (no info) Ida NICHOLS, b. 1864 m. John B. SCOTT (no info) Ellen NICHOLS, b. 1865 m. Greensbury GRIFFITH (4 children) Anne NICHOLS, b. 1868 m. Samuel L. NICHOLS (no children) NOTE: They all appear to have been born in Federalsburg, Caroline Co., MD If you are a descendant, or know of a descendant, of this NICHOLS Family Line -- please e-mail me at HMWEBBER@aol.com It would be to your-their advantage -- if you are interested in their NICHOLS Family genealogy! :) Happy Holiday's, Helen (DCGS) P.S. These families members could now be in PA, DE, MD area!

Good morning List, Would you be a descendant of Harvey N. NICHOLS [1881-1945] from Delaware - Eastern Shore of Maryland area or do you know someone who is? I have important info! :) Happy Holiday's, Helen (DCGS)

William Thawley of Cape May, New Jersey has a Catherine Thawley who married a John Brown, his info has her father as James Wesley Thawley and her mother Sara Elizabeth Jenkins.

I wonder if you have a current address or email for William Thawley of Cape May. He may have a tidbit of info which would help me in my Porter research - who have married Thawleys and Browns. Thanks, Glo Lathamde@aol.com wrote: > William Thawley of Cape May, New Jersey has a Catherine Thawley who married a > John Brown, his info has her father as James Wesley Thawley and her mother > Sara Elizabeth Jenkins. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iEB.2ACE/605 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on Catherine Thawley's parents,etc.. She married John Brown of Delaware, had a daughter named Nancy who married Major (Thomas) Hurd. Any info would be great, thanks.

What are dates for your dates for Catherine Thawley. In the 1850 Kent Co DE census, there is a James and Elizabeth Thawley with oldest dau Catherine age 13. I don't have any other info, though the Browns and Thawleys enter into my Porter family in that area. Glo Wellman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iEB.2ACE/123.3 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on a Eleanora Cook. I beleive that she was born in Cambridge, Maryland on October 10, 1860. I have no idea who her father was, presumably a man named Cook. Her mother was Mary Valiant. I am also not sure who Mary's father was either but her mother was a Anna Valiant. It appears as if the father and mother of this Eleanor Cook were never married or maybe her mother remarried after the death of her husband. Can you help me in any way?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iEB.2ACE/14.17.1 Message Board Post: I am attempting to locate ancestors of Mary Stogner who was wife of John Hendricks/x Rev. War Vet. I think that Mary's father was William Stogner. I am a member of DAR under the John Hnndrix decendents and can help you with the Hendricks/x line but I need info on the Stogner line..My Hendricks Family were in Penn moved into Rowan Co N.C. and on into S. C. and some migrated west into Ala and Tex. You may reach me at Email:cgusc95@msn.com. I do have info on a Henry Hendricks/x but need approx dates as there are several by that name. Chris

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iEB.2ACE/604 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on Leroy D. Rice (b. in Allegany County, NY abt 1833 and married to Nancy M. Wright 28 Apr 1852. His father was born in CT and his mother in NY. Nancy's father was born in England and her mother in NYS. On the 1855 NYS Census I find them with a daughter Laura who was born abt 1854. Then on the 1880 Census I find Leroy and Nancy living in Greensborough, Caroline, MD. Laura does not live with them but their son Lester does. He is 22. (Two other persons at that residence: Alexander Elbert, a farmer laborer, and Florence Hamilton a domestic servant. These two are natives of Maryland.) I need to know more about Leroy and Nancy's family. All kids names (dates/places of birth), when they left NYS, death dates, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iEB.2ACE/213.480.481.1 Message Board Post: Amos COEY or COHEE b.July 05 1817 M. to Sarah Ellen HETTINGER July 29 1846 Ross Co. OH These were the parents of John.My husbands gr gr grandfather was Abraham who married Cclarrisa HINES. Abraham was Johns brother. Mae

Hello. For those of you who may remember our discussion a few months ago (on the Mitsawokett list--I'm cc'ing a couple of other lists and individuals as well) about DNA testing being used in genealogy, I thought I might give you an update on my efforts. Some of you are familiar with my quest, but for the others I'll provide a little background: My great-grandfather Hopewell U. Carter Sr. was an illegitimate child, son of Elizabeth Carty, who changed her name to Carter around the time that she relocated from Caroline County, MD (where Hopewell was born) to Kent County, DE. The family stories always stated that his biological father was "a wealthy Dr. Hardcastle" in Caroline County, and there were continued connections with the family for several years afterward. One story mentioned how my Great Aunt Agnes named one of her daughters Doris after a Hardcastle family member. Another story told of a family member who had joined the service, only to be disheartened and desiring to leave, and the family implored upon the Hardcastle family's connections to successfully achieve the serviceman's discharge. (I have never been able to determine who this serviceman was). There were also tales of a connection to the Boggs family in the Cheswold area (the family from which J. Caleb Boggs hailed from, former U.S. Senator and Governor of Delaware), and research showed that J. Caleb Boggs' paternal grandmother had been a Hardcastle prior to her marriage, and that she was indeed descended from the same Hardcastle family of Caroline County, MD. Anyway, I learned of these stories in the mid-late 1970's when I first began my genealogy, and by 1990, when I finally got around to ordering Hopewell Sr's death certificate, the story seemed to be slightly substantiated by its listing his father as "Alexander Carter." By this time, I had long since discovered a Dr. Alexander Hardcastle in close proximity to the Carty / Carter residence in Caroline County, MD, and had already suspected him as being Hopewell's biological father. My suspicion as to why the father was listed as "Alexander Carter" on the death certificate instead of "Alexander Hardcastle" was: 1) the family informant(s) gave the last name of Carter to avoid the stigma of his having been illegitimate, or 2) upon being questioned for the father's name the informant(s) simply replied "Alexander" and the note-taker assumed the surname would be Carter. At any rate, it seemed clear that Dr. Alexander Hardcastle must have been the "culprit." For many years I had worked on researching the Hardcastle family and had corresponded with other Hardcastle researchers, always feeling an absence or a loss that I had no proof of this connection, although the family stories seemed to make it true. This particular line in my genealogy always seemed to be an extra burden to me, as it was my paternal line (my father's father's father, etc), and that my own last name might have been Hardcastle under other circumstances. If only there were a way to prove the connection. Little did I know that one day science would come up with a method which might be used to bridge the gap! That method was DNA testing. Some of you may be familiar with the story of Thomas Jefferson's purported offspring borne by the family servant Sally Hemmings, and how the Hemmings family descendants had long sought acceptance by the Jefferson Society as being true descendants of Thomas Jefferson, over the objections of detracting members. Eventually, DNA testing was called upon in an effort to try to resolve the controversy. During the mid-1990's another fellow Hardcastle researcher (named Tom Hardcastle) and I had discussed the story, and wondered whether such a test might eventually be available (and affordable) to the general public, and whether we might employ such a test in my efforts to prove that Hopewell Carter, Sr. was indeed the son of Dr. Alexander Hardcastle. The type of DNA test conducted on the Jefferson - Hemmings descendants is called a Y-chromosome test. The Y-chromosome is carried down by males, only, and such a test can only be used when the desired path is through a "male line" in a family (such as from great-grandfather to grandfather to father to son, for example). Examining the DNA in the Y-chromosome in two male subjects can show whether the two are descended from a common male ancestor, and can estimate the number of generations that separate the connection between the two. Since my fellow Hardcastle researcher was both a male and a Hardcastle (i.e., he had Hardcastle as a surname, indicating he is the son of a Hardcastle who was the son of a Hardcastle who was the son of a Hardcastle who was the son of Hardcastle, etc, etc), and since we knew the exact purported connection (common male ancestor) between his branch of the Hardcastles and mine, we would be ideal subjects for a Y-chromosome test. Thus, it just became a matter of finding a lab to conduct the test. (Or so we thought). Early inquiries to genetic laboratories, even as recent as a year and a half ago, proved to be disappointing, as the costs were upward of $400 per sample to conduct such a test. As eager as I was to find proof of the connection, this was just too expensive for my budget! (Also, I had told my "cousin" Tom that if we ever found a lab to perform the tests that I would pay for them, since it was MY branch which needed substantiating, not his). Then, last January, I heard (and it was discussed on this list) about the BYU (Brigham Young University) project entitled Molecular Genealogy, and how they were collecting DNA samples on an enormous scale, making stops in particular cities and locations all over the world, and taking samples from volunteers. One of the stops was near me in Florida, and others were in the Philadelphia and Maryland areas, prompting the list discussion last Winter/Spring. The project was detailed in an article in my local newspaper, in a weekly genealogy column. BYU's eventual goal was to collect enough samples to be able to study worldwide migration patterns, and work toward methods of further using DNA to trace genetic ancestry, beyond the Y-chromosome DNA method (and the Mitochondrial DNA method*). * The Mitochondrial DNA method is another form of DNA testing which is also becoming more commonly used. Mitochondrial DNA is passed down from mothers to all their children, but is only carried forward by daughters. This type of testing can be used to test a strictly maternal line (such as from great-grandmother to grandmother to mother to daughter/son, for example). My understanding is that this type of testing is somewhat more difficult (and perhaps more costly). Anyway, upon learning that the BYU group would soon be in my local area collecting samples for their project, I contacted members of their staff to inquire whether they ever worked on individual test cases, and whether they would consider taking on a personal case such as my own. They replied yes, and when asked about costs, they replied theirs would be substantially lower than the $400/sample cost I'd been quoted by the private labs. Even though they hadn't given me an exact price, I decided to go ahead and take the leap! I contacted Tom Hardcastle, asked if he was still willing to participate, and the ball was rolling! The option was given as to whether we, as test subjects, would donate a blood sample or a buccal sample (saliva sample via a mouth swab). I donated a blood sample, and Tom submitted a buccal sample, as this was more convenient and would not need to involve a doctor appointment to have the blood drawn. The lab also requested that I get a first-cousin to participate, as this would provide substantiating genetic markers to go alongside mine in comparison against Tom's, and would ensure further validity of the test. My first-cousin David (again, through a male line, being the son of my father's brother) readily volunteered to join in the quest, and he soon submitted a buccal sample as well. I'll leave out all the inconsequential details, but after submitting the DNA samples the process became rather lengthy (from Feb to Oct). This was due in no small part to the overwhelming response BYU apparently received, and their involvement in numerous Special Cases as a result of their "world tour" and others like myself who'd contacted them for individual testing. Eventually, arrangements were made by BYU to "farm out" the Special Cases to a private lab (Relative Genetics), staffed by some of the members who had worked on the BYU project (and presumably who had since graduated from BYU). As a consequence of this, many of the Special Cases were done at little or no cost, and I was one of the lucky ones to fall into this category. (Going forward, all such Special Cases are being handled by Relative Genetics, and their cost is set at $130 per sample). (Also, they now use only buccal samples, and no longer take blood samples for their Special Cases). In early October, I finally received the results. Alas, the outcome was disappointing to say the least. Whereas the DNA showed a positive first-cousin relationship between David and myself, it showed Tom to be not connected to David and I within the purported six generations separating us from our supposed common male ancestor. The results showed that the common male ancestor between us was more likely somewhere between 27 and 113 generations removed, with an average likely separation of approximately 67 generations. After working on / researching the genealogy of the Hardcastle family for over 20 years, one small step of science seemed to rule out the family story altogether. During this quest, I had stayed in touch with the reporter / genealogist who had authored the article in the local paper last January (announcing BYU's original sample-collection project). She had asked whether she could relate my story in an article once the results were complete. I agreed, and she conducted an interview. The article came out in last Thursday's issue, and can be found at the following link: http://www.sptimes.com/News/120601/Floridian/Genealogy__DNA_testin.shtml (There is a typo in the first sentence of the article--which is my fault, since she let me proofread the article before printing, and I missed it! It should say "...prove his great-grandfather HOPEWELL Carter...," not "Alexander" Carter. But this will not change the effect of the story for general readers). In the meantime, however, I have decided not to give up right just yet. Although the results of my DNA test indicated that Tom and I do not have a common male ancestor within the purported six generations, the possibility exists (albeit a slim one) that the "flaw" could be in his line, not mine. In other words, if there were an "illegitimacy" anywhere in Tom's paternal (Hardcastle) line, this could also explain why we would show as not being related within the six-generation span. The only way to "remove all doubt" would be to find another male Hardcastle, whose branch tied into ours, and who would volunteer to submit a DNA sample for comparison against both of ours. I decided an extra $130 would be a small price to pay for another sample to be tested, especially since my earlier tests fell into a "gray area" in terms of costs. However, such a venture would not come without a feeling of guilt, since if another Hardcastle descendant were to match my DNA but not Tom's, this would indicate that Tom was "not really a Hardcastle." This would be a heavy price to pay (learning your own surname was "invalid") by someone who was attempting in good faith to help me find what MY surname "should" be.... However, Tom, being the good sport that he is, was willing to proceed. And I have just recently found another test participant. A fellow genealogist named Mike Hardcastle, who is a policeman living in Germany and who is descended from a co-lateral Hardcastle branch (having a common male ancestor with Tom and I, two generations further back), has agreed to participate in the test, and just last week submitted a DNA sample to Relative Genetics. The outcome of the test on his DNA will provide one of three results: 1. If Mike matches Tom*, but not me, then this will--for all intents and purposes--"prove" that I am most likely not a biological Hardcastle. 2. If Mike matches me*, but not Tom, then it will indicate that Tom has an "illegitimacy" in his paternal line, and is likely not a biological Hardcastle. 3. If Mike matches neither me nor Tom*, then we're back at square one, and the "illegitimacy" could have occurred in any one or more of all three of our lines. (And we would then need to get ANOTHER Hardcastle test subject for further comparison). * [within the specified number of generations] Relative Genetics has said that the latest results should be done in 4 to 6 weeks. ANYWAY, I've gone on MUCH longer than I'd expected when I began this post!! Hopefully, I haven't bored any of you too much, and those who did get bored have long since hit the "delete" key! :-) If anyone has any questions, please let me know. I can also provide contact information for Relative Genetics, if anyone wishes to contact them directly. (Or, info on how to contact them is contained within the newspaper link above). Thanks for listening. John John C. Carter http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/John-C-Carter/ Paternal surnames: Bailey, Carney, Carter/Carty/McCarty, Coker, Colston, Concealer/Counceller/Councilor/etc, Cott, Dean, Downes, Durham, Handsor, Hardcastle, Hewes, Jackson, Joy, Morgan, Morris, Munce/Muncey/Muntz, Orem, Ridgeway, Wyatt Volunteer - Headstone Hunter http://www.headstonehunter.com/

My great-grandmother was Ida May Fleetwood and I have been trying to track her family. She and her sister Minnie are buried in the Milford I.O.O.F. Cemetery; her brother Harry Benjamin (known as "Mike") is buried in the Blades Cemetery. The census lists show a lot of Fleetwood children living with people who do not share their family name, so I think there must have been at least one Fleetwood family crisis/tragedy. I'm beginning to think my Fleetwoods may have been among those children! (No proof of that one way or the other -- just frustration at not being able to knock down a wall!) This is all of the information, such as it is, that I have so far. Can anyone out there make a connection? The following information will begin with the most recent Fleetwoods I have information about and move back. KATHRYN "KITTY" FLEETWOOD, b. Nov. 28, 1920, DE; d. May 23, 2001, TX. On March 30, 1946, in Claymont, New Castle Co., DE, she married ROBERT "BOB" STAIR, b. Jan. 2, 1914, d. Nov. 7, 1992, Wilmington, New Castle Co., DE. They had four children, all living. Kathryn's father was HARRY BENJAMIN FLEETWOOD who was always known as "MIKE." He told his grandchildren, his great-nieces and nephew, and his great-niece that he did not know where he got that nickname. He simply always had it. Harry (Uncle Mike) was the brother of my great-grandmother who died five years before I was born. My parents' family Bible has seven children listed for this family. I only remember Uncle Mike and Aunt Minnie. This is the information I have on this family unit beginning with my great-grandmother. IDA MAY FLEETWOOD, b. 12-6-1880, Milford, DE, d. 5-29-1943, Milford, Sussex Co., DE, bur. I.O.O.F. Cemetery, Milford, Kent Co., DE. On Dec. 26, 1897, in Milford, DE, she married GEORGE JOSEPH STILL, b. 9-22-1873, DE, d. 7-21-1952, Milford, Sussex Co., DE. They had two children (JENNIE MINERVA STILL and GERTRUDE MAY STILL). Gertrude died in her early 20s having born one child, ROSE MARIE ARTIST STILLE (father: ARTHUR STILLE) who also died young. Marie was unmarried and had no children -- both mother and daughter died of TB. Jennie married COURTLAND "CLARKIE" EARL CLARKE and had one child, my mother GERTRUDE "TRUDY" MARIE CLARKE. She and my father had four children, all living. MINNIE FLEETWOOD (may have been MINERVA since my grandmother Jennie Minerva was named after her) b. 4-17-1884, DE, d. 7-21-1955, Milford, Sussex Co., DE, bur. I.O.O.F. Cemetery, Milford, Kent Co., DE. She married HARRY LEE HILL, b. 8-14-1882, DE, d. 3-7-1955, Milford, Sussex Co., DE, bur. I.O.O.F. Cemetery, Milford, Kent Co., DE. They had two children HARRY LEE HILL and MYRTLE MAY HILL. Harry had one child, still living. Myrtle had two children, one living. HARRY BENJAMIN "MIKE" FLEETWOOD, b. 5-23-1891, prob. Milford, DE, d. 1-17-1968, prob. Blades, Sussex Co., DE., bur. Blades Cemetery, Blades, Sussex Co., DE. On March 13, 1920, in the Asbury M.E. parsonage in Wilmington, New Castle Co., DE, he married ORA PAGE ELLIOTT, b. 1900, prob. PA, maybe Marcus Hook, d. 1958, bur. Blades Cemetery, Blades, Sussex Co., DE. The following siblings of Ida May, Minnie, and Harry ("Mike") are listed in my parents' family Bible. I know nothing about any of them except their names: WILLIAM FLEETWOOD JAMES FLEETWOOD GEORGE FLEETWOOD MARY E. FLEETWOOD IDA MAY FLEETWOOD's death certificate lists her parents' names as: JEHAMARA FLEETWOOD, b. MD, and SUSAN C. SCOTT, b. DE. My parents' family Bible lists IDA MAY's parents as CURTIS FLEETWOOD and SUSAN SCOTT. Perhaps his full name was JEHAMARA CURTIS FLEETWOOD? I have not yet had the opportunity to travel to Delaware to try to locate the death certificates of MINNIE (FLEETWOOD) HILL or HARRY BENJAMIN FLEETWOOD to see what name is given for their father on their certificates. There are a number of CURTIS FLEETWOODs listed in the census lists for Kent and Sussex Co., DE, in the Milford area and other towns south of Milford. I have not found all of these census records yet, but, so far, I don't think (but am not certain) that any of the CURTIS FLEETWOODs I have located in the census lists could be the father of IDA MAY, MINNIE, HARRY BENJAMIN, WILLIAM, JAMES, GEORGE, and MARY E. When I went to the Blades Cemetery on my last trip east to photograph my Uncle Mike's (Harry Benjamin) and Aunt Ora's tombstones, I found quite a few other FLEETWOODS buried in that same small cemetery. One of them was a MARY E. FLEETWOOD. I do not know if she is the sister of my great-grandmother. If I can ever figure out how to free my new digital camera photographs from the camera by loading them into my computer, I will see how many of the names I can read and will be glad to send those legible names to anyone who requests them. Can anyone make any connections to these FLEETWOODs? Karen Carter Sandy, UT

Hello all I am looking for anything related to Lizzie Roe who married James Morris in or around Denton Md c1880. They had at least one child Edward DeVere Morris. Any help would be appreciated. Bill Morris

There are at least two Greenmount Cemeteries. The one in Caroll County, Maryland is not the Greenmont Cemetery that lies in or near Hillsboro Caroline County, Maryland The original query was regarding Greenmount Cemetery in Hillsborough, Caroline County.

These people are distant cousins of mine. I would be very interested if we could hook up. I am also having a problem finding my Roe line which links to my Morris side. Thanks Bill Morris

I can trace these people back to my GGGrandmonther I would be very interested in your pic's and anything else you have on the family

Greenmount cemetery listings are in the book "Carroll County Cemeteries-Volume Four: Northeast that was compiled by the Carroll County Genealogical Society. Willowbend Books in Westminster has this book. Anne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nichold, Gordy, Fishell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iEB.2ACE/603 Message Board Post: I have good photo of Dorsey Robert Nichols, 1900 -1961, his sister, Mary E [b] 1904, picture taken about 1906 or 1907. Dorsey's wife was Lynnie Lewis Wright [b] 1900, his mother was Lydia E Patton [b] 1880 in MD, his sister Sally [b] 1902, his brother Vernon [b] 1910. Mary's husband was Ellis H Collis [b] 1903 [d] Aug 1976 and their children. One is unknown and other is Lois Mae who married a Gordy. They had four children . The unknown married a Fishell and had child. Someone, somewhere must be a descendent or know of one. I would like for them to have the photo.

Hello. Thanks for the suggestion of a roll call (on the McCARTY list). (I'm cc'ing the CARTY list, and a couple of Maryland-area lists as well). My earliest known McCARTY was James McCARTY (b. ca. 1770), who seems to have come from Dorchester Co, MD, and settled in Caroline Co, MD. (Both on Maryland's Eastern Shore, near Delaware). He later identified himself as James CARTY instead of James McCARTY. All of his known children and grandchildren took the CARTY name for a generation or two, and then it changed to CARTER. James appears to have married Barsheba DEAN in 1792 (and later possibly Sarah WALKER in 1814). James had the following children: 1. William CARTY, (ca. 1792 - ) 2. James CARTY, Jr, (ca. 1799 - ) 3 - 9. and probably seven others William CARTY (b. ca. 1792 in MD) was my ancestor and was either married to or was the common-law husband of Elizabeth WYATT, born ca. 1789 in MD. They lived in Caroline County, MD. Their children were: 1. Rebecca CARTY, (12 Jan 1813 - ? ) 2. James CARTY, (25 Oct 1815 - ? ) 3. William Washington CARTY, (15 Apr 1818 - 03 Aug 1880) 4. Elizabeth A. CARTY, (20 Apr 1821 - 26 Mar 1906) 5. John A. CARTY, (25 Dec 1823 - ? ) 6. Henrietta CARTY, (25 May 1826 - ? ) 7. George Thomas CARTY, (08 Mar 1827 - ? ) Several (perhaps ALL) of these children changed their name to CARTER, around the same time that most of them moved to Kent County, DE (mid-late 1800's). #4, Elizabeth A. CARTY, was one of the ones who became CARTER and moved to DE, and she had a child out-of-wedlock, Hopewell Umphrey CARTER, who was my great-grandfather. If any of these names are familiar to anyone, I would love to hear from you. Also, if you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! John John C. Carter http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/John-C-Carter/ Paternal surnames: Bailey, Carney, Carter/Carty/McCarty, Coker, Colston, Concealer/Counceller/Councilor/etc, Cott, Dean, Downes, Durham, Handsor, Hardcastle, Hewes, Jackson, Joy, Morgan, Morris, Munce/Muncey/Muntz, Orem, Ridgeway, Wyatt Volunteer - Headstone Hunter http://www.headstonehunter.com/