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    1. Re: [MDALLEGA] The Alleganian Jul 13 1864
    2. Karen E. Cresap
    3. Hi Priscilla, I'm so glad this was the right page you were looking for, and at least that mystery is solved. I think you guessed right on the few words you couldn't make out; I think it is the "5th inst" (meaning the same month); "Actual Physical Disability"; "Over age" (this one's tough to make out, but it makes sense, and it doesn't look like Old Age. Can you imagine that they only had 3 days to report to Baltimore, all the way from Allegany Co? That would seem hard even by today's standards. I checked the paper of July 6th (the day after the draft was made, and didn't see any names listed, so I imagine the 13th was their only notification. I agree, it would be wonderful to research all 170 men listed. I would assume there were many more than just these listed on this date, in other newspaper editions, etc. I could help in transcribing these 170 names, but it wouldn't seem to be a complete list to me, and I wonder if there would already be another source out there with a list. I wish we knew where these 16 districts placed on a map. It would help to locate where these men lived within Allegany Co. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Priscilla Engeman" <pengeman@charter.net> To: "MDALLEGA" <MDALLEGA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] The Alleganian Jul 13 1864 > The heading for the column says: > (From The Alleganian (Cumberland, Maryland) > July 13, 1864) > > State Draft for Allegany County > ----- > The following is the official list of the names drawn in Baltimore, on > the (5th inst.?), from the State enrollment list of the several > districts of this county, made in 1862, to fill the quota of Allegany > County in the 2000 militia, for one hundred days' service, called out > by the Governor. The persons drafted are ordered to report at Camp > Bradford, near Baltimore, 'in person, or by substitute,' on or before > Saturday the 16th day of July. The only cause of exemption recognized > or allowed to those drafted are '(actual?) physical disability' for > the service required, and '(over-age?)' > > *from ' to ' written in italics > > As you can see, there are a few words that are unclear to me. Can any > of you who have access to this page make them out? > > An exhilarating, fascinating and exhausting project would be to > research each of the 170 men from Allegany County who's names were > drawn from the State enrollment list. I recognize so many names from > my hours and hours devouring the Allegany/Garrett County census records. > > Ah, if only I could clone myself, I would be able to do all that I wish. > : ) > Priscilla > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/06/2010 06:53:47
    1. Re: [MDALLEGA] The Alleganian Jul 13 1864
    2. Priscilla Engeman
    3. Perhaps, if we put our heads together, we can come up with an accurate list of districts for that period of time. I found this (below) at: Allegany County GenWeb - County Election Districts All but district number 17 were formed before the 1864 date of this newspaper, so I don't know which districts were split in order to make #17. Anyone want to jump on board here and try to figure out an accurate list of districts for 1864??? Districts of Allegany County Before the Formation of Garrett County No. 1 District Name: Glades (formed 1799) also known as: Armstrong's Glades Altamont (1867) No. 2 District Name: Selbysport (formed 1799) No. 3 District Name: Grantsville (formed 1817) also known as: Little Crossings until 1850 No. 4 District Name: Westernport (formed 1799) No. 5 District Name: Frostburg (formed 1799) originally: Musselanes No. 6 District Name: Cumberland (formed 1799) also known as: Court-House No. 7 District Name: Oldtown (formed 1799) No. 8 District Name: Little Orleans (formed 1817) also known as: Fifteen-Mile Creek No. 9 District Name: Flinstone (formed before 1828) No. 10 District Name: Ryan's Glades (formed 1835) No. 11 District Name: Accident (formed 1849) No. 12 District Name: Mr. Savage (formed 1852) No. 13 District Name: Cumberland (formed 1852) No. 14 District Name: Sang Run (formed 1852) No. 15 District Name: Oakland (formed 1860) No. 16 District Name: Lanaconing (formed 1860) No. 17 District Name: Barton (formed 1872) On Nov 6, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Karen E. Cresap wrote: > Hi Priscilla, > > I'm so glad this was the right page you were looking for, and at > least that > mystery is solved. > > I think you guessed right on the few words you couldn't make out; > > I think it is the "5th inst" (meaning the same month); > "Actual Physical Disability"; > "Over age" (this one's tough to make out, but it makes sense, and it > doesn't look like Old Age. > > Can you imagine that they only had 3 days to report to Baltimore, > all the > way from Allegany Co? That would seem hard even by today's > standards. I > checked the paper of July 6th (the day after the draft was made, and > didn't > see any names listed, so I imagine the 13th was their only > notification. > > I agree, it would be wonderful to research all 170 men listed. I > would > assume there were many more than just these listed on this date, in > other > newspaper editions, etc. I could help in transcribing these 170 > names, but > it wouldn't seem to be a complete list to me, and I wonder if there > would > already be another source out there with a list. I wish we knew > where these > 16 districts placed on a map. It would help to locate where these > men lived > within Allegany Co. > > Karen

    11/06/2010 06:36:20
    1. [MDALLEGA] REsearching CW enlistees
    2. Ruth Sprowls
    3. to research all 170 men listed. I would assume there were many more than just these listed on this date, in other newspaper editions, etc. I could help in transcribing these 170 names, but it wouldn't seem to be a complete list to me, and I wonder if there would already be another source out there with a list. I wish we knew where these 16 districts placed on a map. It would help to locate where these men lived within Allegany Co. Heh gals, The first place to start looking would be a possible history of the county that includes a roster of all regiments and names. (Lake/Geauga counties in Ohio had an 1878 history of the counties produced by the Williams Bros. - I do not know if they only did Ohio, or other states.) Pennsylvania regimental history was done by Bates.) GOOGLE and try searching for Maryland regimental rosters and see what can be found. ALSO - ancestry.com has the CW databases - some of them you can search by county - don't key in any names, just search for Allegany county Maryland - see what you get. Or if you can search by town, do that , town by town - Another place is the 1890 Pensions List - that can be searched by county, and will give you all living in Allegany Co. MD that is receiving a pension. REMBEMER tho, that this is any pensioner living in the county - so he could have moved from another county or state. All this has to be proved. Their also is an 1883 pensioners list - I think there are 5 volumes - available on google books. (this version is MUCH easier to use than the same books found on ancestry.com). Local county libraries, historical societies also have local regimental history. Also check various scrapbook collections at his. soc. I checked our scrapbook card file for a CW vets name, and found an 1880 roster that had been printed in the local paper, when they were erecting a monument. Each town in the county had submitted their CW veterans names and regiments. Also, once you know regiments, you can search online and so many people have dedicated many years to researching the regiments, and have loads of info online and SOOOO very willing to share. ALSO - how many researchers on this list have data on their own ancestor that they would be willing to share???? IF this project would be undertaken by a group of you (IT DOES TAKE MORE THAN ONE RESEARCHER -) decide in the beginning where the project will wind up - historical society? ) The project I am involved with will have a WALL OF HONOR in the historical societies main hall , listing all proven veterans names. For those killed in battle there will be a code and another code for those who died of their wounds. THEN any additional data we locate (photos, mini bios, b/m/d, obits, death certs., etc.) will go into a database, that will be accessible thru the history centers website. As I said we started with 2800 names for the two counties, and I have to prove which were from my county, which should be between 1363 and 1800. And all others will be deleted. Our list will only include those who lived in the county at time of enlistment. If anyone needs further sources, just holler - will be glad to assist all I can. I have learned more about the CW in the past 4 months, than I ever thought I wanted to know. Ruth

    11/06/2010 10:18:04
    1. Re: [MDALLEGA] REsearching CW enlistees
    2. Judy Lantz
    3. I found a reference to this draft in Lowdermilk's History of Cumberland, 1878 edition, pg. 415. July 1, 1864 "At this time about one hundred men were drafted for three years' service to make up the county's quota under the last call, and 170 were drafted for the one hundred days' service." Hope this helps. Judy Lantz -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Sprowls Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:18 PM To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDALLEGA] REsearching CW enlistees to research all 170 men listed. I would assume there were many more than just these listed on this date, in other newspaper editions, etc. I could help in transcribing these 170 names, but it wouldn't seem to be a complete list to me, and I wonder if there would already be another source out there with a list. I wish we knew where these 16 districts placed on a map. It would help to locate where these men lived within Allegany Co. Heh gals, The first place to start looking would be a possible history of the county that includes a roster of all regiments and names. (Lake/Geauga counties in Ohio had an 1878 history of the counties produced by the Williams Bros. - I do not know if they only did Ohio, or other states.) Pennsylvania regimental history was done by Bates.) GOOGLE and try searching for Maryland regimental rosters and see what can be found. ALSO - ancestry.com has the CW databases - some of them you can search by county - don't key in any names, just search for Allegany county Maryland - see what you get. Or if you can search by town, do that , town by town - Another place is the 1890 Pensions List - that can be searched by county, and will give you all living in Allegany Co. MD that is receiving a pension. REMBEMER tho, that this is any pensioner living in the county - so he could have moved from another county or state. All this has to be proved. Their also is an 1883 pensioners list - I think there are 5 volumes - available on google books. (this version is MUCH easier to use than the same books found on ancestry.com). Local county libraries, historical societies also have local regimental history. Also check various scrapbook collections at his. soc. I checked our scrapbook card file for a CW vets name, and found an 1880 roster that had been printed in the local paper, when they were erecting a monument. Each town in the county had submitted their CW veterans names and regiments. Also, once you know regiments, you can search online and so many people have dedicated many years to researching the regiments, and have loads of info online and SOOOO very willing to share. ALSO - how many researchers on this list have data on their own ancestor that they would be willing to share???? IF this project would be undertaken by a group of you (IT DOES TAKE MORE THAN ONE RESEARCHER -) decide in the beginning where the project will wind up - historical society? ) The project I am involved with will have a WALL OF HONOR in the historical societies main hall , listing all proven veterans names. For those killed in battle there will be a code and another code for those who died of their wounds. THEN any additional data we locate (photos, mini bios, b/m/d, obits, death certs., etc.) will go into a database, that will be accessible thru the history centers website. As I said we started with 2800 names for the two counties, and I have to prove which were from my county, which should be between 1363 and 1800. And all others will be deleted. Our list will only include those who lived in the county at time of enlistment. If anyone needs further sources, just holler - will be glad to assist all I can. I have learned more about the CW in the past 4 months, than I ever thought I wanted to know. Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/07/2010 05:32:31
    1. Re: [MDALLEGA] REsearching CW enlistees
    2. Priscilla Engeman
    3. Good Job! Thanks! Priscilla On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Judy Lantz wrote: > I found a reference to this draft in Lowdermilk's History of > Cumberland, > 1878 edition, pg. 415. July 1, 1864 "At this time about one hundred > men > were drafted for three years' service to make up the county's quota > under > the last call, and 170 were drafted for the one hundred days' > service." > > Hope this helps. > > Judy Lantz > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] > On Behalf Of Ruth Sprowls > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:18 PM > To: mdallega@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDALLEGA] REsearching CW enlistees > > to research all 170 men listed. I would > assume there were many more than just these listed on this date, in > other > newspaper editions, etc. I could help in transcribing these 170 > names, but > it wouldn't seem to be a complete list to me, and I wonder if there > would > already be another source out there with a list. I wish we knew where > these > 16 districts placed on a map. It would help to locate where these men > lived > within Allegany Co. > > Heh gals, The first place to start looking would be a possible > history of the county that includes a roster of all regiments and > names. (Lake/Geauga counties in Ohio had an 1878 history of the > counties produced by the Williams Bros. - I do not know if they only > did Ohio, or other states.) Pennsylvania regimental history was done > by Bates.) GOOGLE and try searching for Maryland regimental rosters > and see what can be found. > ALSO - ancestry.com has the CW databases - some of them you can > search by county - don't key in any names, just search for Allegany > county Maryland - see what you get. Or if you can search by town, do > that , town by town - > > Another place is the 1890 Pensions List - that can be searched by > county, and will give you all living in Allegany Co. MD that is > receiving a pension. REMBEMER tho, that this is any pensioner living > in the county - so he could have moved from another county or state. > All this has to be proved. > Their also is an 1883 pensioners list - I think there are 5 volumes - > available on google books. (this version is MUCH easier to use than > the same books found on ancestry.com). > Local county libraries, historical societies also have local > regimental history. > Also check various scrapbook collections at his. soc. I checked our > scrapbook card file for a CW vets name, and found an 1880 roster that > had been printed in the local paper, when they were erecting a > monument. Each town in the county had submitted their CW veterans > names and regiments. > Also, once you know regiments, you can search online and so many > people have dedicated many years to researching the regiments, and > have loads of info online and SOOOO very willing to share. > ALSO - how many researchers on this list have data on their own > ancestor that they would be willing to share???? > IF this project would be undertaken by a group of you (IT DOES TAKE > MORE THAN ONE RESEARCHER -) decide in the beginning where the project > will wind up - historical society? ) > The project I am involved with will have a WALL OF HONOR in the > historical societies main hall , listing all proven veterans names. > For those killed in battle there will be a code and another code for > those who died of their wounds. > THEN any additional data we locate (photos, mini bios, b/m/d, obits, > death certs., etc.) will go into a database, that will be accessible > thru the history centers website. > As I said we started with 2800 names for the two counties, and I have > to prove which were from my county, which should be between 1363 and > 1800. And all others will be deleted. Our list will only include > those who lived in the county at time of enlistment. > If anyone needs further sources, just holler - will be glad to assist > all I can. I have learned more about the CW in the past 4 months, > than I ever thought I wanted to know. > Ruth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    11/07/2010 02:37:41
    1. Re: [MDALLEGA] REsearching CW enlistees
    2. john and louann creasy
    3. Thanks to all who have been researching this and passing it on to the rest of us. Louann On Nov 7, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Priscilla Engeman wrote: > Good Job! > Thanks! > > Priscilla > On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Judy Lantz wrote: > >> I found a reference to this draft in Lowdermilk's History of >> Cumberland, >> 1878 edition, pg. 415. July 1, 1864 "At this time about one hundred >> men >> were drafted for three years' service to make up the county's quota >> under >> the last call, and 170 were drafted for the one hundred days' >> service." >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Judy Lantz >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com >> ] >> On Behalf Of Ruth Sprowls >> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:18 PM >> To: mdallega@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [MDALLEGA] REsearching CW enlistees >> >> to research all 170 men listed. I would >> assume there were many more than just these listed on this date, in >> other >> newspaper editions, etc. I could help in transcribing these 170 >> names, but >> it wouldn't seem to be a complete list to me, and I wonder if there >> would >> already be another source out there with a list. I wish we knew >> where >> these >> 16 districts placed on a map. It would help to locate where these >> men >> lived >> within Allegany Co. >> >> Heh gals, The first place to start looking would be a possible >> history of the county that includes a roster of all regiments and >> names. (Lake/Geauga counties in Ohio had an 1878 history of the >> counties produced by the Williams Bros. - I do not know if they only >> did Ohio, or other states.) Pennsylvania regimental history was done >> by Bates.) GOOGLE and try searching for Maryland regimental >> rosters >> and see what can be found. >> ALSO - ancestry.com has the CW databases - some of them you can >> search by county - don't key in any names, just search for Allegany >> county Maryland - see what you get. Or if you can search by town, >> do >> that , town by town - >> >> Another place is the 1890 Pensions List - that can be searched by >> county, and will give you all living in Allegany Co. MD that is >> receiving a pension. REMBEMER tho, that this is any pensioner living >> in the county - so he could have moved from another county or state. >> All this has to be proved. >> Their also is an 1883 pensioners list - I think there are 5 volumes - >> available on google books. (this version is MUCH easier to use than >> the same books found on ancestry.com). >> Local county libraries, historical societies also have local >> regimental history. >> Also check various scrapbook collections at his. soc. I checked our >> scrapbook card file for a CW vets name, and found an 1880 roster that >> had been printed in the local paper, when they were erecting a >> monument. Each town in the county had submitted their CW veterans >> names and regiments. >> Also, once you know regiments, you can search online and so many >> people have dedicated many years to researching the regiments, and >> have loads of info online and SOOOO very willing to share. >> ALSO - how many researchers on this list have data on their own >> ancestor that they would be willing to share???? >> IF this project would be undertaken by a group of you (IT DOES TAKE >> MORE THAN ONE RESEARCHER -) decide in the beginning where the project >> will wind up - historical society? ) >> The project I am involved with will have a WALL OF HONOR in the >> historical societies main hall , listing all proven veterans names. >> For those killed in battle there will be a code and another code for >> those who died of their wounds. >> THEN any additional data we locate (photos, mini bios, b/m/d, obits, >> death certs., etc.) will go into a database, that will be accessible >> thru the history centers website. >> As I said we started with 2800 names for the two counties, and I have >> to prove which were from my county, which should be between 1363 and >> 1800. And all others will be deleted. Our list will only include >> those who lived in the county at time of enlistment. >> If anyone needs further sources, just holler - will be glad to assist >> all I can. I have learned more about the CW in the past 4 months, >> than I ever thought I wanted to know. >> Ruth >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    11/07/2010 11:34:22
    1. Re: [MDALLEGA] The Alleganian Jul 13 1864
    2. Hey Karen, How can I get a copy of this list or the newspaper page? Mainly I am looking for any spelling of Sinnet, Robinson, Cox, Baldwin. Thanks. Pat Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Karen E. Cresap" <RootsResearch@comcast.net> Sender: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:53:47 To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] The Alleganian Jul 13 1864 Hi Priscilla, I'm so glad this was the right page you were looking for, and at least that mystery is solved. I think you guessed right on the few words you couldn't make out; I think it is the "5th inst" (meaning the same month); "Actual Physical Disability"; "Over age" (this one's tough to make out, but it makes sense, and it doesn't look like Old Age. Can you imagine that they only had 3 days to report to Baltimore, all the way from Allegany Co? That would seem hard even by today's standards. I checked the paper of July 6th (the day after the draft was made, and didn't see any names listed, so I imagine the 13th was their only notification. I agree, it would be wonderful to research all 170 men listed. I would assume there were many more than just these listed on this date, in other newspaper editions, etc. I could help in transcribing these 170 names, but it wouldn't seem to be a complete list to me, and I wonder if there would already be another source out there with a list. I wish we knew where these 16 districts placed on a map. It would help to locate where these men lived within Allegany Co. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Priscilla Engeman" <pengeman@charter.net> To: "MDALLEGA" <MDALLEGA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] The Alleganian Jul 13 1864 > The heading for the column says: > (From The Alleganian (Cumberland, Maryland) > July 13, 1864) > > State Draft for Allegany County > ----- > The following is the official list of the names drawn in Baltimore, on > the (5th inst.?), from the State enrollment list of the several > districts of this county, made in 1862, to fill the quota of Allegany > County in the 2000 militia, for one hundred days' service, called out > by the Governor. The persons drafted are ordered to report at Camp > Bradford, near Baltimore, 'in person, or by substitute,' on or before > Saturday the 16th day of July. The only cause of exemption recognized > or allowed to those drafted are '(actual?) physical disability' for > the service required, and '(over-age?)' > > *from ' to ' written in italics > > As you can see, there are a few words that are unclear to me. Can any > of you who have access to this page make them out? > > An exhilarating, fascinating and exhausting project would be to > research each of the 170 men from Allegany County who's names were > drawn from the State enrollment list. I recognize so many names from > my hours and hours devouring the Allegany/Garrett County census records. > > Ah, if only I could clone myself, I would be able to do all that I wish. > : ) > Priscilla > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/06/2010 11:06:07