Looking at the 1880, 1900, 1910 and 1920 censuses, I see that they have switched from indexing their records as Election Districts to Enumeration Districts. I should have looked closer before sounding the alarm. Still, there is the question of how one contacts Ancestry about errors, other than missing, wrong or unreadable images. On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:48 AM, Priscilla Engeman wrote: > Does anyone know how to contact Ancestry to tell them they've made a > big typo? > > 1900 Census > Maryland, Garrett, West Oakland District 14 is indexed as District 48! > > I haven't found a way to inform them about that of that kind of > mistake. You can tell them about missing, wrong or unreadable images. > You can tell them about alternate spelling of names and such. But I > don't see a way to tell them about this kind of error. > > ? > > Priscilla > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Does anyone know how to contact Ancestry to tell them they've made a big typo? 1900 Census Maryland, Garrett, West Oakland District 14 is indexed as District 48! I haven't found a way to inform them about that of that kind of mistake. You can tell them about missing, wrong or unreadable images. You can tell them about alternate spelling of names and such. But I don't see a way to tell them about this kind of error. ? Priscilla

Here is part 2 of the article that I found in Brown's Miscellaneous Writings 1880 - 1895 There has been a decided improvement in this community not only in the people, but in every way, in the past few years. Beautiful new residences greet your eyes in many places, such as HON. GEORGE BLOCHER and his brother HENRY, who has just finished a handsome residence upon the old BLOCHER-MUSSELLMAN seat, and MR. PATRICK DORSEY, who is comforted in one of the very finest dwellings in the country. We were guests of the widow HANSON BROWN. She and her son JOHN H. BROWN run the best farm on the ridge. Their energy and prudence have been rewarded this season with full crops of all kinds for "man and beast." Her home is one of great hospitality and generosity to the many comers and goers, and of course, she is much liked and respected. She is a reader and a subscriber of the REPUBLICAN, and wonders why her bill does not put in appearance for payment, as it is her only known debt. A healthy financial condition truly. We met another patron, the spouse of a moderate Democrat, and a close reader of the REPUBLICAN - a lady of sense and considerable information. The writer was modestly questioned as to the authorship of certain articles heretofore published in the paper named of a historic character. She seemed to take pleasure in admitting she had read them with pleasure and interest, but she begged to say there was one error, in stating WILLIAM CONRAD was the last survivor of the jury that convicted GEORGE SWEARENGEN IN 1829. She averted her ancestor JACOB WINTERS, one of that panel, died a year or two later than CONRAD. No doubt she is right. A bright woman is hard to beat on matter of fact. There can be no impropriety in saying the lady referred to is MRS. ANDREW LANCASTER. Just here let it be remarked city people greatly mistake and underate the intelligence and general information of the country people. Many of them are careful readers, and make good practical use of what they read and observe. It was not difficult to persuade us to make a visit to our old friend P. DORSEY. Here one finds genuine hospitality and pure civility. His much respected wife died several years ago. His household is handsomely presided over by his trained daughters who make it pleasant for you whether it be a short or long stay. DORSEY is doing a large and prosperous business in the manufacture of lumber and shingles; for the latter there is more demand now than for some years, at good prices. This industry is now the only one of the kind in this part of the country. The pioneer settler in this neighborhood was CHRISTIAN GARLITZ, at least 70 years ago. He built a cabin near where the Catholic church now stands in the dense woods, mostly pine. Tradition has it that in clearing a spot of ground around the house a perverse, tree was felled upon it with the young wife inside. The anxious cry was "SALLY, are you dead." She was unhurt, but strange to say, more than fifty years after, good old CHRISTY was killed in the woods by the fall of a tree. The men here of three score or more, are ELI WHITZELL, CHRISTIAN BLOCHER, ANDREW BLOCHER, LEO McKENZIE, ISRAEL GARLITZ and P. DORSEY, all respectable and good citizens. The two oldest died with the last year -- JESSE W. CHANEY and JEREMIZH McKENZIE. October 16th, 1888. ________________________________________________________________________________ Anyone have information on these families - JACOB WINTER, CHRISTIAN GARLITZ, LEO McKENZIE, ISRAEL GARLITZ, JEREMIAH McKENZIE??????? OLD ROBINSON MANSION ????????? Also I have a MARY ALICE (CRAWFIS) SINNET who was supposingly born in Avilton or Ackerman. Do not know how far a part these two town are. Maybe one is Garrett County and one is Allegany County, will have to check. Pat In a message dated 11/4/2010 7:40:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, PATROBISON@aol.com writes: Here is part of the article that I found in Brown's Miscellaneous Writings 1880 - 1895 By Jacob Brown, Cumberland, MD 7-23-1896 On Page 42 - Avilton, Garrett County. Having been drawn to this place on business, with a few days of social pleasures added, it has been thought fit to furnish the public with suggestion of a local and personal nature, that may not be unacceptable to the reader. The old name of this neighborhood is "BLUE LICK:, latter caller "PEA RIDGE." the post office established here, about a year ago is called "AVILTON," has a tri-weekly mail supplied from LONACONING, with rapidly increasing reading matter. Mr R E GARLITZ is the attentive postmaster. He also runs a country variety store and drive a thrifty business. The ubiquitous drummer has found him, though far in the interior. At convenient distances are two churches -- Catholic and Dunkard, but no school-house range. The frequent remark here is "Why don't the double headed School Board quit wasting the people's money in factious lawsuits?" The OLD ROBINSON MANSION is now being dismantled to be use for school purposes for the coming term. Attended Dunkard church last Sunday. This was their annual meeting and the most important one of the year, being the occasion of the Love Feast, which was celebrated the night before. The ceremony consist of the communion, partaking of the lamb soup and feet-washing. The REV. J. HOOVER, from Salisbury, Pa., was the minister. He is a bright, intelligent man, and preached a very respectable sermon; one worthy of attention. He looks like any other respectable minister, and is orthodox in his opinions and teachings, but not oppressively so. His subject was the covering and uncovering of the head, which was clearly handled. Evidently he was dealing with the hat and bonnet question now vexing that sect. the church here is (PAGE 43) said to be in prosperous condition. But their spacious, plain edifice, now fifteen years old, needs a coat of white paint. They are able, but not willing, for such an enterprise. This whole neighborhood was once densely covered with white pine and spruce, but it has in years past been cut and made into lumber in its various forms. In the places of once pine forests, of pine trees are now many farms under good cultivation, with excellent crops this season and a ready market for all surplus products in the GEORGE'S CREEK VALLEY. The continuous rains for many weeks have delayed and somewhat damaged the crops, but still the yield will be more than an average, even though some buckwheat and corn should be spoiled. Besides the ceriels and provender, there is an immense chestnut crop, now nearing its close. Plenty of sleek pigs in the woods. Will follow with the other half later. The call number of the book in SLC was 975.29 H2b Has anyone heard or know anything about the OLD ROBINSON MANSION? Thanks. Pat

They say it is free but they want a credit card and then I can't get the pictures to come up so, maybe, someone else has better luck.

My understanding is that the free military records from Ancestry.com are available through the 14th, in celebration of Veteran's Day. Unfortunately, Ancestry.com has priced me out for a time. I used to keep a yearly subscription, but their prices are out of my hobby budget's range. I figure in a few years, I'll re-up for a year. Ah well, I'm still scanning in and tagging of decades of family photos. Between that and organizing my existing records and notes, I've enough to keep me busy for some time. Cheers! John On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marge <msealock@mchsi.com> wrote: > We had to learn from one of the websites on line that Ancestry.com is > letting us search the military records of Custer, Jackson etc for free. I > don't remember for how long. But after this is will cost. Are they now > charging extra for military records. Since I mostly only search census > records I dropped my subscription til they put the new 1940 census on line > and now use Heritage Quest.

Priscilla, I'm not sure I understand where the link is for the map. Did it leave you attached? Thanks, Judy -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Priscilla Engeman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:04 PM To: MDALLEGA Subject: [MDALLEGA] 1865 Allegany Map I searched and searched for a map that would be close to date of the 1860 census. The only one I had was 1873, after the formation of Garrett County. Finally I found one - 1865. It's great when you find something after a long search... and then you realize that your whole morning is nearly gone! Anyway, the map is in two parts. You can click on each district to get a closer view. Here is the list of districts on this 1865 map: 1. Wilson's (I don't think I've ever seen it referred to as Wilson's District), but I recognize Altamont as a P.O. listed on census sheets). 2. Selbysport 3. Grantsville 4. Westernport 5. Frostburg 6. Cumberland 7. Old Town 8. Little Orleans 9. Flintstone 10. Ryan's Glade 11. Accident 12. Mount Savage 13. Cumberland 14. Sang Run 15. Oakland 16. Lonaconing The interactive map of Maryland is at Map of Maryland. J.H. Colton, Delaware and Maryland, 1855, Huntingfield Collection, MSA SC 1399-1-278 Are there other good links out there for old maps that can be viewed online? Priscilla ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We had to learn from one of the websites on line that Ancestry.com is letting us search the military records of Custer, Jackson etc for free. I don't remember for how long. But after this is will cost. Are they now charging extra for military records. Since I mostly only search census records I dropped my subscription til they put the new 1940 census on line and now use Heritage Quest.

Yes. The copy in my "sent" folder has the link in it, but I'll try again. Map of Maryland. J.H. Colton, Delaware and Maryland, 1855, Huntingfield Collection, MSA SC 1399-1-278 Just in case that link doesn't work, I'll type out the address: http://www.mdslavery.net/html/mapped_images/mapsindex.html Let me know if this works Priscilla On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Judy Lantz wrote: > Priscilla, > I'm not sure I understand where the link is for the map. Did it > leave you > attached? Thanks, > > Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] > On Behalf Of Priscilla Engeman > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:04 PM > To: MDALLEGA > Subject: [MDALLEGA] 1865 Allegany Map > > I searched and searched for a map that would be close to date of the > 1860 census. The only one I had was 1873, after the formation of > Garrett County. > > Finally I found one - 1865. It's great when you find something after a > long search... and then you realize that your whole morning is nearly > gone! > > Anyway, the map is in two parts. You can click on each district to get > a closer view. > > Here is the list of districts on this 1865 map: > > 1. Wilson's (I don't think I've ever seen it referred to as Wilson's > District), but I recognize Altamont as a P.O. listed on census > sheets). > 2. Selbysport > 3. Grantsville > 4. Westernport > 5. Frostburg > 6. Cumberland > 7. Old Town > 8. Little Orleans > 9. Flintstone > 10. Ryan's Glade > 11. Accident > 12. Mount Savage > 13. Cumberland > 14. Sang Run > 15. Oakland > 16. Lonaconing > > The interactive map of Maryland is at Map of Maryland. J.H. Colton, > Delaware and Maryland, 1855, Huntingfield Collection, MSA SC > 1399-1-278 > > Are there other good links out there for old maps that can be viewed > online? > > Priscilla > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I searched and searched for a map that would be close to date of the 1860 census. The only one I had was 1873, after the formation of Garrett County. Finally I found one - 1865. It's great when you find something after a long search... and then you realize that your whole morning is nearly gone! Anyway, the map is in two parts. You can click on each district to get a closer view. Here is the list of districts on this 1865 map: 1. Wilson's (I don't think I've ever seen it referred to as Wilson's District), but I recognize Altamont as a P.O. listed on census sheets). 2. Selbysport 3. Grantsville 4. Westernport 5. Frostburg 6. Cumberland 7. Old Town 8. Little Orleans 9. Flintstone 10. Ryan's Glade 11. Accident 12. Mount Savage 13. Cumberland 14. Sang Run 15. Oakland 16. Lonaconing The interactive map of Maryland is at Map of Maryland. J.H. Colton, Delaware and Maryland, 1855, Huntingfield Collection, MSA SC 1399-1-278 Are there other good links out there for old maps that can be viewed online? Priscilla

I live in Florida - gerrymandering is an art - LOL

I think I figured this out - electoral districts are subject to change every two years i.e. gerrymandering - while enumeration districts are every ten years using census data - may not be correct but makes sense to me

Sorry left this part out. Gerrymandering is supposed to be illegal. That is shortening, elongating and twisting the boundaries of a district for political purposes.

I think election districts change every ten years. That is because after the census taken every ten years, these districts are supposed to be redrawn to reflect the population changes.

Thank you, Stephen and Virginia. Richard Perrin Day On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Virginia Kelly wrote: > I have a Lucy Peerin who married a Marcellus Twigg on 21 Nov. 1878. > They had > one child named Bruce Wilmer Twigg .b 04 Jun 1884 in Bedford Co. Pa. > and > died 23 Jan 1983 in Allegany Co.,Md. Virginia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Day" <rpday@mac.com> > To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:39 PM > Subject: [MDALLEGA] Lucy Perrin married ? Twigg > And on Nov 9, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Stephen Lubore wrote: > According to my records, there was a Lucy Perrin, born circa 1858, > that > married Marcellus Twigg on 21 Nov 1878 in Bedford Co., PA. They had > one > child, Brice Wilmer Twigg born 5 June 1884 in Bedford Co., PA. Brice > died on > 23 Jan 1983 in Allegany Co., MD. > > Stephen Lubore

I have a Lucy Peerin who married a Marcellus Twigg on 21 Nov. 1878. They had one child named Bruce Wilmer Twigg .b 04 Jun 1884 in Bedford Co. Pa. and died 23 Jan 1983 in Allegany Co.,Md. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Day" <rpday@mac.com> To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:39 PM Subject: [MDALLEGA] Lucy Perrin married ? Twigg >I know I am getting old when I am too lazy to look this relationship > up on my own. > > Lucy was a daughter of (Squire) Lenox Perrin, born about 1852. west of > Flintstone. I heard through the grapevine that she married one of > those Twiggs, and I am curious if anyone has in their files more > information than that. > > Richard Perrin Day > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to my records, there was a Lucy Perrin, born circa 1858, that married Marcellus Twigg on 21 Nov 1878 in Bedford Co., PA. They had one child, Brice Wilmer Twigg born 5 June 1884 in Bedford Co., PA. Brice died on 23 Jan 1983 in Allegany Co., MD. Stephen Lubore -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Day Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:39 PM To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDALLEGA] Lucy Perrin married ? Twigg I know I am getting old when I am too lazy to look this relationship up on my own. Lucy was a daughter of (Squire) Lenox Perrin, born about 1852. west of Flintstone. I heard through the grapevine that she married one of those Twiggs, and I am curious if anyone has in their files more information than that. Richard Perrin Day ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know I am getting old when I am too lazy to look this relationship up on my own. Lucy was a daughter of (Squire) Lenox Perrin, born about 1852. west of Flintstone. I heard through the grapevine that she married one of those Twiggs, and I am curious if anyone has in their files more information than that. Richard Perrin Day

Shawn, Please send me one. Thank you. Judy -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of patrobison@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:49 AM To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Allegany County Districts Shawn. I would like a copy. Pat ------Original Message------ From: Shawn McGreevy Sender: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com To: MDALLEGA@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDALLEGA] Allegany County Districts Sent: Nov 8, 2010 10:14 AM I have a map which shows the Allegany County Districts in 1872 if anyone wants it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shawn. I would like a copy. Pat ------Original Message------ From: Shawn McGreevy Sender: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com To: MDALLEGA@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDALLEGA] Allegany County Districts Sent: Nov 8, 2010 10:14 AM I have a map which shows the Allegany County Districts in 1872 if anyone wants it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Shawn, can anyone on the list explain the difference between the Election Districts (for voting purposes) and the Enumeration Districts ( for Census taking). I know they are not always the same so someone would have to know whether or not they were speaking of Election districts or Enumeration districts. That has always confused me. Linda Lantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn McGreevy" <shawnmcgreevy@geatz.com> To: <MDALLEGA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: [MDALLEGA] Allegany County Districts Here is some info I found on Ancestry.com regarding our election districts. Sorry about the way it is formatted-it comes out long and skinny! Wish that would work for me!! Early formation of Election Districts In 1799 an act was passed by the General Assembly for the appointment of commissioners in every county of the State to lay off the counties into districts. The commissioners for Allegany were John B. Beall, David Hoffman, Thomas Stewart, William Shaw, George Robinet (of Nathan), and Jesse Tomlinson. 1. Glades 2. Selbysport 3. Westernport 4. Musselanes 5. Cumberland 6. Oldtown In 1817, the Legislature passed an act for the redivision of the county into eight districts. The commissioners appointed were Isacc Oyman, William Reid, William McMahon, George Newman (of Butler), and John Simpkins. 1. Glades 2. Selbysport 3. Little Crossings (until 1850) 4. Westernport 5. Musselanes 6. Cumberland 7. Oldtown 8. Little Orleans The polls of District #3, Little Crossings, were removed to Grantsville in 1850. A considerable amount of its jurisdiction and population were added to Frostburg in 1856. (P 1345 History of Western Maryland, by Scharf) Districts of Allegany County Before the Formation of Garrett County No. District Name Date Formed Also Known As 1 Glades 1799 Armstrong's Glades Altamont (1867) 2 Selbysport 1799 3 Grantsville 1817 Little Crossings until 1850 4 Westernport 1799 5 Frostburg 1799 originally Musselanes 6 Cumberland 1799 Court-House 7 Oldtown 1799 8 Little Orleans 1817 Fifteen-Mile Creek 9 Flintstone before 1828 10 Ryan's Glades 1835 11 Accident 1849 12 Mt Savage 1852 13 Cumberland 1852 Market House 14 Sang Run 1852 15 Oakland 1860 16 Lonaconing 1860 17 Barton 1872 Districts of Allegany County After the Formation of Garrett County Meets and Bounds of 1880 Election Districts<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mdallegh/1880elec.htm> No. District Name Date Formed Original No. 1 Orleans 1817 8 2 Oldtown 1799 6/7 3 Flintstone before 1828 9 4 Cumberland, Canal 1799 5/6 5 Cumberland, Will's Creek By 1875 6 Cumberland, River By 1875 7 Rawling's By 1875 8 Westernport 1799 ¾ 9 Barton 1872 17 10 Lonaconing 1860 16 11 Frostburg 1799 4/5 12 East Frostburg By 1875 13 Mt Savage 1852 12 14 Cumberland, Central 1852 13 15 East Lonaconing By 1880 Districts of Garrett County 1876-1880 No. District Name Date Formed - AC # Also Known As 1 Altamont(1867) 1799 - #1 Armstrong's Glades 2 Selbysport 1799 - #2 3 Grantsville 1817 - #3 Little Crossings until 1850 4 Bloomington By 1876 Not an Allegany Co District 5 Accident 1849 - #11 6 Sang Run 1852 - #14 7 Oakland 1860 - #15 8 Ryan's Glades 1835 - #10 9 Johnson's By 1876 Not an Allegany Co District ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message