Another idea not cast in stone is the teaching that in some places, and at some times, women were not allowed and completely trusted legally to sign documents on their own. Thus the practice evolved to, when their names were required on documents, to have among their witnesses or co-signers, male members of their families. Thus it is worth examining the males on such documents with an eye to their name(s) being the maiden name of the lady also included.

Thanks everyone for the responses! According to my Family Treemaker program, I am the 1st cousin, 4 times removed, of Elsie Barncord -- although Barncord would not have been her married name but her original name. The Elsie Barncord I have in my tree was born 1895 and was the daughter of Henry O. Barncord. Would that be the same Elsie you're referring to? According to my research, the Barncords were originally the Bancords (and I've seen it spelled Bankard as well). Sometime between 1880 and 1900, the entire Cumberland family of Bancords seemed to have jointly decided that they'd henceforth be known as the Barncords -- so I'd like to find out why that happened. One of the Bancord patriarchs was Henry Bancord (1822-1869) -- who married Catherine Ann Gary (sometimes spelled Geary) (b.1831) in 1848. As for the STEIN name -- I'm researching the Cumberland family of Steins - Jacob (b.1834) and Elizabeth (b.1840) Stein who came over from Germany. Would like to find out more about that couple and where in Germany they were from (their kids were Pauline, Louis, Edward, Charles, and Elisa). Jacob and Elizabeth were my 4th Great-Grandparents. Not sure if any of their descendants or relatives ended up in Somerset County. jeff <jeff61@comcast.net> wrote: I know these families. I went to school with an Eric Barncord this would most likely be Elsie's son. The also went to school with the Knieriem's. They lived next to us at one time. I think their mom and dad still live along the road to Ellerisle as did the Barncrods -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of soulmate Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:59 PM To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein Elsie was a cook for Corriganville Elementary School and a good one she was. Linda Harden Lantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein >I remember an Elsie Barncord married name, think her husband might have >been > Carl that lived on Old Mt. Savage Rd. Cumberland, MD in the 1960's, They > had > 4 sons, 2 of which live in Florida now. This family was related to > Knieriem's that lived in Ridgeley, WV (nearby), but don't know how. > > There were Knieriem's living in that area also. > > I am curious about the Stein surname that you are researching, I am also > researching Stein's. > > Regards, > > Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Guerino Calemine > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:26 AM > To: mdallega@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein > > Just a quick check-in. > > I'm researching the following family names in Allegany County... > > Barncord (alternatively spelled Bancard, Bankard) > Knieriem > Stein > Andrews (alternatively Andres) > Bealky (alternatively Begalke) > > If anyone has info they'd like to exchange on these families, let me > know. > THANKS! > > > > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

My family is going to have a reunion this summer. I need some ideas if anyone could share. We are going to have about 12 Children under 10 years and 10 kids between 10 and 15 years old. Anything will help. One of my nieces started a web site so we can all keep in touch. This site is easy to build easy to use and its free to start with. anyone else using this site. http://familylobby.com/ Joe Mckenzie

I know these families. I went to school with an Eric Barncord this would most likely be Elsie's son. The also went to school with the Knieriem's. They lived next to us at one time. I think their mom and dad still live along the road to Ellerisle as did the Barncrods -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of soulmate Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:59 PM To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein Elsie was a cook for Corriganville Elementary School and a good one she was. Linda Harden Lantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb" <reiss46@verizon.net> To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein >I remember an Elsie Barncord married name, think her husband might have >been > Carl that lived on Old Mt. Savage Rd. Cumberland, MD in the 1960's, They > had > 4 sons, 2 of which live in Florida now. This family was related to > Knieriem's that lived in Ridgeley, WV (nearby), but don't know how. > > There were Knieriem's living in that area also. > > I am curious about the Stein surname that you are researching, I am also > researching Stein's. > > Regards, > > Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Guerino Calemine > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:26 AM > To: mdallega@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein > > Just a quick check-in. > > I'm researching the following family names in Allegany County... > > Barncord (alternatively spelled Bancard, Bankard) > Knieriem > Stein > Andrews (alternatively Andres) > Bealky (alternatively Begalke) > > If anyone has info they'd like to exchange on these families, let me > know. > THANKS! > > > > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me who the parents are of John L. MCKENZIE 1876-1956. John is buried in the Porter Cemetery. I looked in the porter Book but this man is not there. I am really looking for Louis Mckenzie The son of Samuel S. Mckenzie 1845-1927 Louis is my Great uncle, I have him Born 1887 and death March 18,1955. But not sure of this. He married Iva Bittner, I think they might be buried in the Frostburg cemetery but no way to check. Joe Mckenzie in Florida

Elsie was a cook for Corriganville Elementary School and a good one she was. Linda Harden Lantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb" <reiss46@verizon.net> To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein >I remember an Elsie Barncord married name, think her husband might have >been > Carl that lived on Old Mt. Savage Rd. Cumberland, MD in the 1960's, They > had > 4 sons, 2 of which live in Florida now. This family was related to > Knieriem's that lived in Ridgeley, WV (nearby), but don't know how. > > There were Knieriem's living in that area also. > > I am curious about the Stein surname that you are researching, I am also > researching Stein's. > > Regards, > > Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Guerino Calemine > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:26 AM > To: mdallega@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDALLEGA] Barncord, Andrews, Bealky, Knieriem, Stein > > Just a quick check-in. > > I'm researching the following family names in Allegany County... > > Barncord (alternatively spelled Bancard, Bankard) > Knieriem > Stein > Andrews (alternatively Andres) > Bealky (alternatively Begalke) > > If anyone has info they'd like to exchange on these families, let me > know. > THANKS! > > > > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information.

Question, Did Agnes actually marry at age 10? Pat

There is an ancestor of this Monahan family that lives in Mt Savage. Edward, he lives in the two story stone white house right down from the Varsity Pub. I went to school with his son. -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of STEVE DOLCE Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:52 AM To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDALLEGA] monahan correction Anthony and Bridget were married in 1846 at St. Patrick's in Mount Savage...not 1868 Kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Muir / Percy Family that I reference came to Allegany County around the 1840's. They owned / ran the coal mines around Lonaconing. They are connected to the Sloan family mentioned in Allegany history. They are buried in Percy Cemetery in Frostburg, Porter Cemetery in Eckhart and Vale Summit Methodist Cemetery -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Johnatw@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:43 AM To: mdallega@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] 1960's obituary Jeff, I have a lot of Muir's named Agnes, but none seem to be your Agnes that married Thomas Percy. My missing Muir is Janet Montgomrie Muir, b 1791 died ? She married Michael Muir 1814 in Riccarton, Ayrshire, Scotland. They were listed on the 1851 census in Riccarton. Family lore says they came to New York late 1851 or 1852. I can't find a record of Janet after the census. John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I only see one copy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Davis" <anndavis@roadrunner.com> To: <MDALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [MDALLEGA] Fw: [OHROSS] Searching for Mayberry burials > This is a sample of my double messages. This time is 6:48. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KS" <skramer1221@woh.rr.com> > To: <OHROSS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:48 PM > Subject: [OHROSS] Searching for Mayberry burials > > >>I am looking for any Mayberry burials in Ross Co. Possibility of >> William, John or James. They may have been married into the >> Shannon families. >> Later generations came to Putnam Co Ohio. >> Thanks for any help, with deaths or marriages. >> Sue >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHROSS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.29/673 - Release Date: 2/6/2007 >> 5:52 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the double for the other message. Time is 6:48. I'm not sending, I'm receiving. And I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about it, so no more from me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KS" <skramer1221@woh.rr.com> To: <OHROSS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: [OHROSS] Searching for Mayberry burials >I am looking for any Mayberry burials in Ross Co. Possibility of > William, John or James. They may have been married into the > Shannon families. > Later generations came to Putnam Co Ohio. > Thanks for any help, with deaths or marriages. > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHROSS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.29/673 - Release Date: 2/6/2007 > 5:52 PM > >

This is a sample of my double messages. This time is 6:48. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KS" <skramer1221@woh.rr.com> To: <OHROSS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: [OHROSS] Searching for Mayberry burials >I am looking for any Mayberry burials in Ross Co. Possibility of > William, John or James. They may have been married into the > Shannon families. > Later generations came to Putnam Co Ohio. > Thanks for any help, with deaths or marriages. > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHROSS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.29/673 - Release Date: 2/6/2007 > 5:52 PM > >

My double messages come in two at a time, each time, for the first time. >From all my lists, which number about 20. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Sprowls" <sprowls@ncweb.com> To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Repeated Messages > sometimes when a person receives a message they forward it on to the > list, not realizing that if we are subscribed we had already received > the message. I get this a lot. > Ruth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.29/673 - Release Date: 2/6/2007 > 5:52 PM > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Sprowls" <sprowls@ncweb.com> To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Repeated Messages > sometimes when a person receives a message they forward it on to the > list, not realizing that if we are subscribed we had already received > the message. I get this a lot. > Ruth Also what happens is that someone sends a message to the list. Someone else on the list wants to know more and replies to the list instead of to the sender and doesn't delete the first message . When this 2nd message appears on the list you now see the first message and the second message and any other messages you didn't delete from from the third message. Sometimes you need to leave enough of the first message to identify what you're interested in. Connie

I think you can get one of the maps from the Garrett Co. Courthouse. Address is: David K. Martin, Clerk of the Court Circuit Court for Garrett County PO Box 447 Oakland, MD 21550-0447 I don't know the cost. If you're looking for military lot maps, let me know. Connie > I'm looking for lot maps for Allegany and Garrett County from the Deakins' Survey to when Garrett County was formed. Allegany College has copies of the 1874 map of the lots after the resurvey. I looked at every map available but couldn't a copy of the Deakins maps. Would there be copies at the court house of any maps or maybe at Frostburg University? Doret

Cumberland Times, February 22, 1962 - Mrs. George D. Petenbrink Mrs. Gertrude B. Petenbrink, a native of Corriganville, died Wednesday in Marlboro Hospital, Toms River, N.J. She was the widow of George D. Petenbrink. Mrs. Petenbrink was a daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Scott Barncord. Surviving are five sons; Orville Petenbrink, Corriganville; Vernon Petenbrink, Holly Park, N.J., Donald Petenbrink, Houston, Texas, Garnett Petenbrink, also of New Jersey, and Vincent L. Petenbrink, serving with the Army in Paris; two daughters, Mrs. Laverna M. Fisher and Mrs. Hazel V. Lecuyer, both of Toms River; 12 grandchildren and five great-grandchildren. The body will be brought to Eichorn's Funeral Home here tomorrow, when friends will be received from 7 to 9 p.m. Services are set for Saturday at a.m. at the funeral home. Rev. John B. Zinn will officiate, Internment will be in Porter Cemetery Hyndman. Didn't know if this could help or not. I would be most interested in any information you might be willing to share on the Barncords. Also, do any of your Stein relatives come from the Somerset Co., PA area? Sheryl

sometimes when a person receives a message they forward it on to the list, not realizing that if we are subscribed we had already received the message. I get this a lot. Ruth

John Willison Gracie and his wife Virginia (unknown maiden mame). John was alive and living at 433 Bond Street in Cumberland as late as 1951 according to the Polk directories. His wife Virginia was listed until the late 1940's. They also had a daughter living with them until the early 1940's named Nina. Nina would have been John's step daughter according to the 1930 census. Any help would be appreciated.

The Deakins lot is online at the Library of Congress website. There is also the later version online at http://www.whilbr.org/garrettlots/index.aspx. That page also gives the Library of Congress address. Jill -----Original Message----- From: mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mdallega-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of doretj@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:50 PM To: MDALLEGA@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDALLEGA] lot maps I'm looking for lot maps for Allegany and Garrett County from the Deakins' Survey to when Garrett County was formed. Allegany College has copies of the 1874 map of the lots after the resurvey. I looked at every map available but couldn't a copy of the Deakins maps. Would there be copies at the court house of any maps or maybe at Frostburg University? Doret ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathleen, I also have MONAGHAN's in my line although the name is spelledslightly different. I have a THOMAS MONAGHAN born in Ireland married to MARY MILLER born in Maryland. They were probably married in the late 1830's, 1840's. Sound familiar? Thanks Bill Long ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Dolce" <ksdolce@verizon.net> To: <mdallega@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: [MDALLEGA] Monahan, Mount Savage > Hi List, > I'm researching my Monahan line. My G-G-Grandfather was Anthony Monahan, > married to Bridget (Hanonhan?) in1846. > In the census 1860 thru 1880 (he died in 1885) he is listed as a farmer in > Mount Savage. I'd like to find out where that farm was. If I go to the > court house can I do a search by name? Any suggestions? > Thanks, > Kathleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MDALLEGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >