Found this at ancestry. Leatha Ann (spelled) Selicks married a Columbus Barger in 1864. So now I am going to see if I can find a Letha Barger marrying William Nuse and trying to get a copy of the marriage license. I really would like to find her mother. Even she lists her mother as XXXXX Selicks it would give us a start to find her maiden name.

Maryland required marriage licenses be obtained from the clerk of the county court beginning in 1777. However, banns published three Sundays in the county newspaper where the bride resided could be substituted for a license. Quakers could marry without a license. The archives does have the county record books, but only on microfilm. And of course if they used banns instead of a license there will be no record. The records may also have been affected by the courthouse fire in 1893. I'll note the information down for the next time I'm at the archives in Annapolis, but it may be a few months before I get back there. Although we're only one county south the kids always have sports and scouts going on weekends this time of year. Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:26:06 -0500 From: "Marge" <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to order a marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages license back then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. Any assistance would be appreciated. **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)

Mary Ellen - I checked my tree and I see that I made an error in my early research ( I was just learning!) - I did NOT make note who married them, or where, other than in Lonaconing!! I will have to go thru my files and locate my original notes and see what I have. Will do that over the weekend and get back to you. "Something" is telling me that it was at the M.E. Church or by an M.E. minister, but I am not sure of that right now. I will check my notes and get back to you. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Fw: Marriage Licenses Ruth~ Were these marriages which were done at the court house, non denominational or marriages done at various churches and then recorded??? If the latter, then when next we are in MD, I want to stop over in Cecil County (Rising Sun) to see if their court house would have marriage records. My g grandparents were Lutheran and can find no record of their marriage. In fact no Civil Records at all until they followed the RRs to OH. Mary Ellen --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> wrote: From: Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] Fw: Marriage Licenses To: "MDALLEGA" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:01 PM While in Cumberland Court house I searched the Marriage Records ledgers, and there were marriages before and after my great grandparents marriage of 1885. It was a large book. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses Civil records in MD did not start until 1898. I found this out when we first visited MD Archives years ago. I was trying to find my g grandparents record from approx. 1859. They have marriage records, both bride and groom but they are from various churches. A civil record for a marriage and/or a license per the person at the archives as with all civil records start in 1898. This really surprised me since MD was one of the original 13 colonies. Just assumed they would have started in the 18th century. Only sacramental records from their particular church if they still exist. Mary Ellen Chambers --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marge <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:26 PM I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to order a marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages license back then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. Any assistance would be appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marge, I haven't followed this conversation word for word but have you checked the online marriages of Allegany County, MD http://usgwarchives.net/md/allegany/othrmarr.html There is a list at this site starting with 1791. I found marriage date at the Cumberland court house for my ancestor who married in the early 1800's. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marge Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Fw: Marriage Licenses Yes it would be worth a shot. Now another question, how would I get the courthouse to search for a marriage which I don't know the date of and only know the first name of the bride. I know she married a William Nuse who was born in 1841. I do know from a search in Ancestry that he married a Bridget Corey (from Ireland) on 4 February 1864. But they had no record of his marriage to Leatha what ever her surname was at the time.

check a nearby state like WV or PA. My greatgrandparents..... "ran off the summer of 1841" to get married in PA. They lived in Frostburg area. Linda Harden-Lantz

Here is Connie's snail-mail address - NOTE: Connie's birthday is Sept. 22nd. We will have to go all out with Birthday cards, ok? Connie Beachy 15412 Olympic View Loop Rd. NW Silverdale, Wa. 98383

I think this is pretty standard -- Westmoreland county says they didn't start keeping records until such and such a year, but in their database they have quite a few before then -- so it's always worth checking. Thanks Ruth, Laura On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> wrote: > While in Cumberland Court house I searched the Marriage Records > ledgers, and there were marriages before and after my great > grandparents marriage of 1885.  It was a large book. > Ruth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses > > > Civil records in MD did not start until 1898. I found this out when we > first visited MD Archives years ago. I was trying to find my g > grandparents record from approx. 1859. They have marriage records, > both bride and groom but they are from various churches. A civil > record for a marriage and/or a license per the person at the archives > as with all civil records start in 1898. > This really surprised me since MD was one of the original 13 colonies. > Just assumed they would have started in the 18th century. Only > sacramental records from their particular church if they still exist. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Marge <[email protected]> > Subject: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:26 PM > > I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to > order a > marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages > license back > then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. > Any > assistance would be appreciated. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

While in Cumberland Court house I searched the Marriage Records ledgers, and there were marriages before and after my great grandparents marriage of 1885. It was a large book. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses Civil records in MD did not start until 1898. I found this out when we first visited MD Archives years ago. I was trying to find my g grandparents record from approx. 1859. They have marriage records, both bride and groom but they are from various churches. A civil record for a marriage and/or a license per the person at the archives as with all civil records start in 1898. This really surprised me since MD was one of the original 13 colonies. Just assumed they would have started in the 18th century. Only sacramental records from their particular church if they still exist. Mary Ellen Chambers --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marge <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:26 PM I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to order a marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages license back then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. Any assistance would be appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes it would be worth a shot. Now another question, how would I get the courthouse to search for a marriage which I don't know the date of and only know the first name of the bride. I know she married a William Nuse who was born in 1841. I do know from a search in Ancestry that he married a Bridget Corey (from Ireland) on 4 February 1864. But they had no record of his marriage to Leatha what ever her surname was at the time.

Ruth~      Were these marriages  which were done at the court house, non denominational or marriages done at various churches and then recorded???  If the latter, then when next we are in MD, I want to stop over in Cecil County (Rising Sun) to see if their court house would have marriage records.  My g grandparents were Lutheran and can find no record of their marriage.  In fact no Civil Records at all until they followed the RRs to OH.   Mary Ellen --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> wrote: From: Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] Fw: Marriage Licenses To: "MDALLEGA" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:01 PM While in Cumberland Court house I searched the Marriage Records ledgers, and there were marriages before and after my great grandparents marriage of 1885. It was a large book. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses Civil records in MD did not start until 1898. I found this out when we first visited MD Archives years ago. I was trying to find my g grandparents record from approx. 1859. They have marriage records, both bride and groom but they are from various churches. A civil record for a marriage and/or a license per the person at the archives as with all civil records start in 1898. This really surprised me since MD was one of the original 13 colonies. Just assumed they would have started in the 18th century. Only sacramental records from their particular church if they still exist. Mary Ellen Chambers --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marge <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:26 PM I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to order a marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages license back then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. Any assistance would be appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks..that lets out a check on marriages because I am sure that their first child was born before 1898. I am trying to find this woman who is a great great aunt. She was born to my great great grandparent before he married my grandmother. He had three children by an earlier marriage??? Altho the two boys ended up living with the family I did not find the girl Leatha (married name) Nuse for sure til earlier this week when I received the death certificate. Guess I'll keep on looking..thanks a lot for trying to help.

Civil records in MD did not start until 1898.  I found this out when we first visited MD Archives years ago.  I was trying to find my g grandparents record from approx. 1859.  They have marriage records, both bride and groom but they are from various churches.  A civil record for a marriage and/or a license per the person at the archives as with all civil records start in 1898.  This really surprised me since MD was one of the original 13 colonies.  Just assumed they would have started in the 18th century.  Only sacramental records from their particular church if they still exist.   Mary Ellen Chambers --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marge <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] Marriage Licenses To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:26 PM I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to order a marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages license back then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. Any assistance would be appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know that you can call the office and have them search -- I've done this myself, though to no avail. However, I did find announcement of the granting of the license in a MD paper -- via Godfrey's service. I could search that for you if you like. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: > I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to order a marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages license back then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. Any assistance would be appreciated. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The problem is, I don't know her maiden name. But she was married previously. Her death certificate lists her father, but puts her mother as unknown because it asks for the maiden name. And the certificate says the death was reported by the supertendent of Montevue Hospital. And he probably wouldn't have know her mother's maiden name. She married a William Nuse born April 1841 (which was the second marriage) that's the one I am hoping to find so it might give her mothers first name. That would give me a start. She is Leathe (sometimes Leatha) H. Nuse born November 1846. Her first son was born April 1890. Makes it hard to find her before that. The death certificate says she was born in Maryland, but she was born in Virginia as were her parents as she reported on the census. I am postive about this because the father Owen T. Sealock was born and lived in Virginia. And I don't think the supertendent would not have know for sure that she was born in Virginia. Any assistance would be appreciated. It is a long trek from Minnesota to Maryland.

I have gone all over the Maryland Archives and can not find how to order a marriage license from about 1880 or so. Did they record marriages license back then. I think the person got married in Allegany or Frederick County. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Sharon, Thank you so much for letting us know about Connie. I am sure there are a lot of her friends like myself that continue to think about her and wonder how she is doing. Thanks again, Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Banzhoff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "john malmquist" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: [MDALLEGA] UPDATE on Connie Beachy > Dear Friends of Connie- > > I just spoke with Connie's son, Chris. Chris tells me his sister, Dawn > took Connie to Washington state two weeks ago. He says Connie is > suffering > from short-term memory issues. Right now she seems to be doing pretty > well > with long-term memory. It's a day-by-day thing. Chris asked his sister > to get Connie set up with an e-mail account but he says his sister doesn't > use her computer very much herself and he isn't sure she will set Connie > up > with an account so she can use the computer. > > When I called Chris, he was in his truck. He is going to e-mail me his > sister's snail mail address tomorrow so we can send Connie cards of > thoughts > and best wishes. As soon as I get the mailing address, I will pass it > on. > > > Sharon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Sharon for sharing the news of Connie. I have been wondering how things were going for her. Keep in touch.... Take care Pat H.

Dear Friends of Connie- I just spoke with Connie's son, Chris. Chris tells me his sister, Dawn took Connie to Washington state two weeks ago. He says Connie is suffering from short-term memory issues. Right now she seems to be doing pretty well with long-term memory. It's a day-by-day thing. Chris asked his sister to get Connie set up with an e-mail account but he says his sister doesn't use her computer very much herself and he isn't sure she will set Connie up with an account so she can use the computer. When I called Chris, he was in his truck. He is going to e-mail me his sister's snail mail address tomorrow so we can send Connie cards of thoughts and best wishes. As soon as I get the mailing address, I will pass it on. Sharon

t would be nice to get an update..Connie is a distant relative of my husbands - offhand don't remember the connection.? Audrey Brinkman -----Original Message----- From: Dick Koch <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:08 am Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] MDALLEGA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 107 Connie Beachy is somewhere on the West Coast with her daughter. The Genealogical Society has not heard from her or her children. ~Dick Koch Gen. Soc. of Allegany Co., MD ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Connie Beachy is somewhere on the West Coast with her daughter. The Genealogical Society has not heard from her or her children. ~Dick Koch Gen. Soc. of Allegany Co., MD