Another good point! I too have seen where the World Tree has combined trees with those on Ancestry, that should not be combined. Another good reason to check what's there before copying the data. AND I have a tree on RootsWeb that I guess got transferred from Ancestry, and I have no password or access to it to make changes! It's my tree, but I cannot get to it! Go figger! Maybe the secret is to NOT post our trees at all anywhere. I don't know, but it gets frustrating. And how do you make things right? The one case I mentioned previously was different though, it was a newbie just anxious to add as many names to their tree as fast as possible. She just didn't think there were two DIFFERENT John Wilhelms living in MD, so it had to be hers. Genie Editor by Default OurBrickWalls.com Message: 5 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:15:28 EDT From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Ruth and Genie - all of this info is great and an excellent reminder! I have a tree on Ancestry.com that I did not put there - when Ancestry took over RootsWeb, it took my tree I had posted on World Connect. I discovered this when I was looking for some info on my husband's family and thought I had found parents et ancestors for his one great grandmother that was one of my brick walls. I started to copy the info so I could check it out, when suddenly I noticed her parents were born several years after her death! No relation at all! I feel that Ancestry's computers combined this! I have found similar errors since that time. My tree that Ancestry posted is a couple of years old and has many errors that I have since corrected, but it is not changed on Ancestry! susie ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:28:32 -0500 From: "Marge" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes Ancestry CAN do some things like that my father was born 1910 and my mother 1914. They have them on a tree as being the parents of our original ancestor WHO WAS BORN 1737....can you beat that. And they won't change it. ------------------------------ To contact the MDALLEGA list administrator, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post a message to the MDALLEGA mailing list, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of MDALLEGA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 154 ****************************************

I sgree.? I used to be a "gatherer" and considered every bit of information I got as "fact."? I started out by getting?some information from my husband's uncle.??Then I got more from other people.? I just started gathering and didn't even?KNOW that I was supposed to verify everything.? As I got more involved, I tried to go back to check all?my info, but I still have a lot of unverified "stuff" that's mixed up with the verified facts. So, to everyone just starting out -- check your information as you gather it.? It's a lot easier and less frustrating than going back.? Good luck to all! Audrey -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Chere Thrasher Athey <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:15 am Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! It does bother me a little that some use another's tree as "documentation". I whole heartedly agree with you Chere. Possibly one reason new people working on their family history use others trees as their "documentation" is that they assume the other person has verified the data and they don't need to; or are lazy; or just don't know to verify everything. (note that I didn't say new researchers, because not all people doing their family history are RESEARCHERS. Just "gatherers" of names.) Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It does bother me a little that some use another's tree as "documentation". I whole heartedly agree with you Chere. Possibly one reason new people working on their family history use others trees as their "documentation" is that they assume the other person has verified the data and they don't need to; or are lazy; or just don't know to verify everything. (note that I didn't say new researchers, because not all people doing their family history are RESEARCHERS. Just "gatherers" of names.) Ruth

Audrey, are you using a Mac?  Sometimes unusual characters show up when I send on my Mac. Chere --- On Sun, 6/14/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! ??? To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 1:30 PM ????? Don't know where those came from! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:44 am Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! I sgree.? I used to be a "gatherer" and considered every bit of information I got as "fact."? I started out by getting?some information from my husband's uncle.??Then I got more from other people.? I just started gathering and didn't even?KNOW that I was supposed to verify everything.? As  I got more involved, I tried to go back to check all?my info, but I still have a lot of unverified "stuff" that's mixed up with the verified facts. So, to everyone just starting out -- check your information as you gather it.? It's a lot easier and less frustrating than going back.? Good luck to all! Audrey -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Chere Thrasher Athey <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:15 am Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! It does bother me a little that some use another's tree as "documentation". I whole heartedly agree with you Chere.   Possibly one reason new people working on their family history use others trees as their "documentation" is that they assume the other person has verified the data and they don't need to; or are lazy; or just don't know to verify everything.   (note that I didn't say new researchers, because not all people doing their family history are RESEARCHERS.  Just "gatherers" of names.) Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've yet to put any of my work on the web. When there was only rootsweb, I would have been glad to do it. But after Ancestry.com took them over, I decided against it, because I figured my data would sooner or later belong to Ancestry, and people would have to pay to access it. Now with the recent messages regarding how things are becoming so messed up on Ancestry, I think I'm glad I haven't. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chere Athey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! Thank you, Ruth, for mentioning this. It's particularlay important for the new researcher. Fortunately I learned of "bad trees" early before making any drastic mistakes (like blending someone else's tree with mine) when I looked at a Thrasher tree someone had put on Ancestry that was riddled with errors. That tipped me off that not everyone is as meticulous as maybe they should be about what is added to a tree. Unfortunately, I learned the importance of VERIFYING after I had about 500 entries. Have since have been working on making that right but all (most) entered afterwards have a good deal of documentation (not my favorite thing to do, I must confess but oh so important). Cousin Linda attended a genealogy lecture early in our research and "Verifying Sources" was the theme and one of the gems she shared with us. It does bother me a little that some use another's tree as "documentation". ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can't resist commenting on this issue. I don't want to offend anyone but some people just want instant family trees. Researching is just not their thing. If these folks find a family tree already finished on the internet to copy they are satisfied that they HAVE their family tree. Researchers, on the other hand enjoy checking all those records in dusty places to be sure they have the right family member. I tried to make a correction to something on the internet and found it wasn't doable so I just went back to my researching. Lois Zelina ________________________________ From: Ruth Sprowls <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Chere Thrasher Athey <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:15:44 AM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] Excellent Point Made! It does bother me a little that some use another's tree as "documentation". I whole heartedly agree with you Chere. Possibly one reason new people working on their family history use others trees as their "documentation" is that they assume the other person has verified the data and they don't need to; or are lazy; or just don't know to verify everything. (note that I didn't say new researchers, because not all people doing their family history are RESEARCHERS. Just "gatherers" of names.) Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Ruth, for mentioning this.  It's particularlay important for the new researcher. Fortunately I learned of "bad trees" early before making any drastic mistakes (like blending someone else's tree with mine) when I looked at a Thrasher tree someone had put on Ancestry that was riddled with errors.  That tipped me off that not everyone is as meticulous as maybe they should be about what is added to a tree. Unfortunately, I learned the importance of VERIFYING after I had about 500 entries.  Have since have been working on making that right but all (most) entered afterwards have a good deal of documentation (not my favorite thing to do, I must confess but oh so important).  Cousin Linda attended a genealogy lecture early in our research and "Verifying Sources" was the theme and one of the gems she shared with us. It does bother me a little that some use another's tree as "documentation". 

Yes Ancestry CAN do some things like that my father was born 1910 and my mother 1914. They have them on a tree as being the parents of our original ancestor WHO WAS BORN 1737....can you beat that. And they won't change it.

Ruth and Genie - all of this info is great and an excellent reminder! I have a tree on Ancestry.com that I did not put there - when Ancestry took over RootsWeb, it took my tree I had posted on World Connect. I discovered this when I was looking for some info on my husband's family and thought I had found parents et ancestors for his one great grandmother that was one of my brick walls. I started to copy the info so I could check it out, when suddenly I noticed her parents were born several years after her death! No relation at all! I feel that Ancestry's computers combined this! I have found similar errors since that time. My tree that Ancestry posted is a couple of years old and has many errors that I have since corrected, but it is not changed on Ancestry! susie

Now all of John Olen/Olin's family has been combined with that of John K., which does not belong. Many items should have tipped the person off: repeated listing of "John O." and "John K." NOW THAT IS JUST PURE STUPIDITY - I would certainly be quite upset over that one - Sure makes you wonder, doesn't it? Ruth

Thanks Ruth! We all need to be reminded about using others data as LEADS ONLY, not fact. Another point: Look before you leap! Don't assume that any "John Smith" is YOUR John Smith! Just recently, I had someone copy all the data in my online family tree for John Olen/Olin Wilhelm of Allegany Co and added the info to their tree for a John K. Wilhelm of Balto Co. MD. All census records etc. have John Olen/Olin in Allegany, and all the census records consistently have John K. enumerated in Balto. Co. The only similarity is they were both named John! Now all of John Olen/Olin's family has been combined with that of John K., which does not belong. Many items should have tipped the person off: repeated listing of "John O." and "John K." duplicate census records for the same date in two different locations (i.e. 1900 Allegany Co. John O.; 1900 Balto Co. John K.) different spouse names different childrens' names different ages different parents Thus, John K. has two sets of parents, several wives and about a cabillion children and descendants! So remember to look closely at data before you decide to add it to your tree, it will save a big mess later. Genie Re:Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:53:05 -0400 From: "Ruth Sprowls" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [MDALLEGA] The Dangers of Internet Genealogy - All researchers shuld read this- A GOOD REMINDER To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, MDALLEGA <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original This article is about doing YOUR own research to PROVE or DISPROVE data that you locate in OTHERS trees/files. We SHOULD NOT be lazy and just accept that the info/data is correct and take the chance of publishing/posting data wihtout first proving it. http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/topics/t002-dangers.htm<http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/topics/t002-dangers.htm> Ruth

Becci, I have tried to reach you several times opver the last few years. Sorry to hear about you problems. I certainly hope your daughter is doing well. You rememeber my husband Bob?? Well he dies last Thursday night 6/11 after a tough 10 years ob battling cancer. I have tons of Company now for the funeral on Monday. Get in touch with you later...Clara

Patty, should the date for Nora Broadwater's death be changed? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patty-Friend-Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: [MDALLEGA] Obits-Friend/Comp/Warnick/Nazelrod/Miller/Mason/Cox > > Mrs. Claudine M. Friend, 80, died Saturday at her home. > Born at Friendsville, she was the daughter of the late John W. and Mary > Elizabeth (Lydic) McCullough. Her husband, Paul Friend preceded her in > death. She was a member of the Friendsville Methodist Church. > Surviving are one son, Paul Friend, Maitland, FL. > Services will be conducted today at 11 a.m. at the Newman Funeral Home by > Rev. H. B. Rittenhouse. Interment will be in the Steele Cemetery. > Cumberland News, July 6, 1977 > ** > Funeral services for John W. Comp, aged 68 years, who died at the home of > his son, Harry Comp, Vine St., Westernport, Saturday, were held from the > St. John's Methodist Episcopal Church South, Piedmont, Tuesday afternoon > with interment in Philos Cemetery. The services were conducted by Rev. > Harry C.. March, Waynesboro, VA, a former pastor and Rev. R. B. Proctor, > pastor. The I O O F Lodge of Bloomington had charge. > > Among those who attended the funeral were: Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Sweitzer, > Mt. Lake Park; Adam A. Comp, Mr. and Mrs. Max George, Cumberland; Mr. and > Mrs. John Tibbets and children, Bower, WV; George Comp, Altamont, MD; Mrs. > Harriet Friend, Mr. and Mrs. Burr Saville, William Friend, Romney, WV; > Mrs. and Mrs. George Baker, Mrs. R. Oats and son, George, Mr. and Mrs. > Ivan High, Keyser. > Cumberland Evening Times > Feb 19, 1931 > ** > Detroit- Mrs. Nora B. Warnick, 69, of here, died Feb 26 at her home. > A native of Garrett County she was a daughter of the late Peter A. and > Elmedia (Garlitz) Broadwater. > She was a member of Saint Raymond Catholic Church, the Sodality of the > Blessed Virgin, the Alter Society, and was president of the Senior > Citizen's Club. > She is survived by her husband, Harrison Warnick; two sons, Harlon Warnick > and Richard Warnick, here; eight sisters, Mrs. Mary Warnick, Mrs. Margaret > Thomas and Mrs. Louvina Kamp, all of Detroit area; Mrs. Lucille Laraditch > and Mrs. Louise Bailey, both of Washington; Mrs. Mae Durst, Mrs. Jean > Rand, and Mrs. Wilda Laraditch, all of Los Angeles; two brothers, Maney > Broadwater and Dennis Broadwater, both of here; and nine grandchildren. > Services were conducted at the Saint Raymond Catholic Church and interment > was in Mount Olivet Cemetery, here. > Cumberland Evening Times > March 12, 1876 > ** > John David Nazelrod, 83, farmer, Valley road, died yesterday afternoon. > Mr. Nazelrod came to this section about twenty years ago from Peru, Hardy > County, WV. In his youth he owned and operated a distillery. > He had been active until two weeks ago. Mr. Nazelrod was a member of Mt. > Zion Brethren Church at Peru. > Surviving are four sons, Robert Nazelrod, Cumberland; Jacob Nazelrod, with > whom he lived; Walter Nazelrod, Barrelville, and Noah Nazelrod, formerly > of Lake Koon, PA, now enroute to Centralia, Washington; brother, Henry > Nazelrod, and sister, Mrs. Martha Frantz, both of Peru; 22 grandchildren > and six great grandchildren. His wife died nine years ago. Burial will be > at Peru. > Cumberland Evening Times > March 5, 1940 > > ** > Grantsville, MD, March 5 - Mrs. Barbara Gnagey Miller, 82, former resident > of the Grantsville community, died at Englewood, CA, Wednesday. She was a > daughter of the late Sarah and Jacob Gnagey, early settlers of this > section of Garrett County. She was a member of the Amish Mennonite church > here. > Mrs. Miller leaves a son, Alvin, daughter Stella, Englewood. She was a > sister of C. J. Gnagey, Buffalo, NY, Gideon J. Gnagey, Mrs. Anna J. > Warnick and Mrs. Albert Warnick, Grantsville. > Cumberland Evening Times > March 5, 1940 > > ** > Martinsburg, WV, March 5- Mrs. Texanna Mason, 71, wife of D. S. Mason, > died Sunday afternoon at her home, 116 East King Street. > A daughter of the late Joseph and Jane Adams Place, she was born near > Glengary, but had spent her entire married life, 52 years, in Martinsburg. > She is survived by her husband; four children; one brother, Howard W. > Place, Frederick Co., VA, and two sisters, Mrs. Virginia Schade, Piedmont; > and Mrs. Florida Snyder, Baltimore, MD. > Funeral services will be held tomorrow afternoon. > Cumberland Evening Times > March 5, 1940 > ** > Mrs. Julia Ann Cox, 62, wife of Charles W. Cox, 842 Columbia Ave., died at > her home last night. Funeral services will be conducted at the home Sunday > at 2 p.m. Rev. George E. Baughman, pastor of the First Methodist > Protestant Church, will officiate. Interment will be in Rose Hill > Cemetery. > Surviving, besides her husband, are a son by another marriage, George C. > Beckworth, and two grandchildren, Charles and Francis Beckworth. > Cumberland Evening Times > Sept 3, 1937 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mrs. Claudine M. Friend, 80, died Saturday at her home. Born at Friendsville, she was the daughter of the late John W. and Mary Elizabeth (Lydic) McCullough. Her husband, Paul Friend preceded her in death. She was a member of the Friendsville Methodist Church. Surviving are one son, Paul Friend, Maitland, FL. Services will be conducted today at 11 a.m. at the Newman Funeral Home by Rev. H. B. Rittenhouse. Interment will be in the Steele Cemetery. Cumberland News, July 6, 1977 ** Funeral services for John W. Comp, aged 68 years, who died at the home of his son, Harry Comp, Vine St., Westernport, Saturday, were held from the St. John's Methodist Episcopal Church South, Piedmont, Tuesday afternoon with interment in Philos Cemetery. The services were conducted by Rev. Harry C.. March, Waynesboro, VA, a former pastor and Rev. R. B. Proctor, pastor. The I O O F Lodge of Bloomington had charge. Among those who attended the funeral were: Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Sweitzer, Mt. Lake Park; Adam A. Comp, Mr. and Mrs. Max George, Cumberland; Mr. and Mrs. John Tibbets and children, Bower, WV; George Comp, Altamont, MD; Mrs. Harriet Friend, Mr. and Mrs. Burr Saville, William Friend, Romney, WV; Mrs. and Mrs. George Baker, Mrs. R. Oats and son, George, Mr. and Mrs. Ivan High, Keyser. Cumberland Evening Times Feb 19, 1931 ** Detroit- Mrs. Nora B. Warnick, 69, of here, died Feb 26 at her home. A native of Garrett County she was a daughter of the late Peter A. and Elmedia (Garlitz) Broadwater. She was a member of Saint Raymond Catholic Church, the Sodality of the Blessed Virgin, the Alter Society, and was president of the Senior Citizen's Club. She is survived by her husband, Harrison Warnick; two sons, Harlon Warnick and Richard Warnick, here; eight sisters, Mrs. Mary Warnick, Mrs. Margaret Thomas and Mrs. Louvina Kamp, all of Detroit area; Mrs. Lucille Laraditch and Mrs. Louise Bailey, both of Washington; Mrs. Mae Durst, Mrs. Jean Rand, and Mrs. Wilda Laraditch, all of Los Angeles; two brothers, Maney Broadwater and Dennis Broadwater, both of here; and nine grandchildren. Services were conducted at the Saint Raymond Catholic Church and interment was in Mount Olivet Cemetery, here. Cumberland Evening Times March 12, 1876 ** John David Nazelrod, 83, farmer, Valley road, died yesterday afternoon. Mr. Nazelrod came to this section about twenty years ago from Peru, Hardy County, WV. In his youth he owned and operated a distillery. He had been active until two weeks ago. Mr. Nazelrod was a member of Mt. Zion Brethren Church at Peru. Surviving are four sons, Robert Nazelrod, Cumberland; Jacob Nazelrod, with whom he lived; Walter Nazelrod, Barrelville, and Noah Nazelrod, formerly of Lake Koon, PA, now enroute to Centralia, Washington; brother, Henry Nazelrod, and sister, Mrs. Martha Frantz, both of Peru; 22 grandchildren and six great grandchildren. His wife died nine years ago. Burial will be at Peru. Cumberland Evening Times March 5, 1940 ** Grantsville, MD, March 5 - Mrs. Barbara Gnagey Miller, 82, former resident of the Grantsville community, died at Englewood, CA, Wednesday. She was a daughter of the late Sarah and Jacob Gnagey, early settlers of this section of Garrett County. She was a member of the Amish Mennonite church here. Mrs. Miller leaves a son, Alvin, daughter Stella, Englewood. She was a sister of C. J. Gnagey, Buffalo, NY, Gideon J. Gnagey, Mrs. Anna J. Warnick and Mrs. Albert Warnick, Grantsville. Cumberland Evening Times March 5, 1940 ** Martinsburg, WV, March 5- Mrs. Texanna Mason, 71, wife of D. S. Mason, died Sunday afternoon at her home, 116 East King Street. A daughter of the late Joseph and Jane Adams Place, she was born near Glengary, but had spent her entire married life, 52 years, in Martinsburg. She is survived by her husband; four children; one brother, Howard W. Place, Frederick Co., VA, and two sisters, Mrs. Virginia Schade, Piedmont; and Mrs. Florida Snyder, Baltimore, MD. Funeral services will be held tomorrow afternoon. Cumberland Evening Times March 5, 1940 ** Mrs. Julia Ann Cox, 62, wife of Charles W. Cox, 842 Columbia Ave., died at her home last night. Funeral services will be conducted at the home Sunday at 2 p.m. Rev. George E. Baughman, pastor of the First Methodist Protestant Church, will officiate. Interment will be in Rose Hill Cemetery. Surviving, besides her husband, are a son by another marriage, George C. Beckworth, and two grandchildren, Charles and Francis Beckworth. Cumberland Evening Times Sept 3, 1937

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Becci- I have been to the cemetery near the fire dept. at Oldtown many times. I don't remember a church being at the cemetery. When she said there was a brick and white board church, that's when I came up with Oliver Grove. JoAnn, I'm bowing out - you have the directions now - have fun. Sharon

JoAnn- I have the directions to the Oliver Grove United Methodist Church "somewhere" and I am looking for them. The roads are all good roads, no dirt paths or gravel roads. As soon as I find the directions, I'll send them your way. Sharon

Sharon, I'm glad you came to Joann's rescue (and mine). When we went to Oldtown, we surely found the back roads and one-way cemeteries!!! Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Banzhoff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] web site for Oldtown > JoAnn- > > I have the directions to the Oliver Grove United Methodist Church > "somewhere" and I am looking for them. The roads are all good roads, no > dirt paths or gravel roads. As soon as I find the directions, I'll send > them your way. > > Sharon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sharon   Oliver's Grove is located off Rt. 51, right before you get to  Shyrock's Grocery, turn left onto Cresap Mill Run Rd. , go till you come to Gravel Ridge Rd. ( on left) When you reach the top of the hill, you will be at the church. But this isn't the cemetery Joann is looking for, it's the main Cemetery @ Oldtown. Just past the Fire Dept., on Oldtown Cemetery Road. Becci                     --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Sharon Banzhoff <[email protected]> wrote: From: Sharon Banzhoff <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] web site for Oldtown To: [email protected] Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 5:46 PM JoAnn- I have the directions to the Oliver Grove United Methodist Church "somewhere" and I am looking for them.    The roads are all good roads, no dirt paths or gravel roads.  As soon as I find the directions, I'll send them your way. Sharon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello! What was your Maiden name??   My site was  in Geocities, & I can't remeber offhand the address--- been too long & since then have been through a divorce & my daughter went through Luekemia--- been a rough 3 years. But the site is still up just go to geocities & search for it. I need to take the time to update it, but don't even know if I remember how!!!!    The Methodist Ceme tery is off Rt. 51 on Oldotwn Cemetery Rd., just past the new Fire Dept., on the left. & yes you drive right up to it. I grew up across the road to it, & moved back to the farm across from my parents in '93. But now live in Cumberland. Where do you live?    Duh-- I just read the rest of your note & see your maiden name. Yes, Boden is buried there..   If you live local, give me a call & we'll get together  & go to the cemetery. My cell is: 301-268-2097.   Nice to be back on the list, it's been so long & maybe I can get back into things.... --- On Wed, 6/10/09, Joann Shaffer <[email protected]> wrote: From: Joann Shaffer <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] web site for Oldtown To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 11:35 PM Becci, I used to have the e-mail address for you , or maybe it was another Oldtown site.  At any rate, I would like to know what it is.  I hate to admit it but Doris and I were in Cumberland for a Genealogy Club Meeting and decided we would drive on down to Oldtown and check out a couple of the cemeteries.  I wanted to go to the Methodist Church's cemetery and I remember going with my Mother when I was a teenager and it seemed we drove right up to it.  Of course I wasn't driving then.  Doris and I found two cemeteries, neither were the ones we wanted. Since then Doris has discovered were Mt Herman (or something like that) is located, but I need to know how to get to  the Methodist Church cemetery. I seem to remember a church which was part white and brick. You live near it don't you?  We drove down Oldtown Road and I think we were on every road on the mountain.  I need help.  I want to see my greatgrandfather's grave again. He was Martin Conser Hartley and hopefully Lavinia is there too. Uncle Randolph Hartley is buried there also but I seem to remember Mother saying that he didn't have a head stone and she was talking about getting one for him, but don't know if she did. Funny how life gets in the way sometimes and you get off track.  I believe you once told me that Daddy's brother Jesse Justin Boden is buried there too.  He was only about 8 mo. old when he died. I should get a death certificate for him.  Hope to get down before the summer is over. Heaven only knows what gasoline will cost next year.  Hope you are still working on your genealogy.    Joann Boden Shaffer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becci" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [MDALLEGA] web site for Oldtown Hi Joann, I'm Becci. What can I do for you? --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Joann Shaffer <[email protected]> wrote: From: Joann Shaffer <[email protected]> Subject: [MDALLEGA] web site for Oldtown To: "Allegany County Maryland" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:25 PM I had an e-mail address for Oldtown and didn't write it down or at least I can't find it. If anyone has it please let me know. I think Becci Haines is the one who had the site. Thanks. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message