I don't see where you mentioned it but have you looked in the early records of Prince Georges County, Maryland? Just a thought. Jackie In Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Hagan Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:44 AM To: MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County Can someone give a brief discourse on where the general Frederick County population came from in the mid/late 1700's? I have been searching for the birth place of Francis HAGAN for 25 years and cannot find it. Francis first appears in Frederick County records in 1787 when he witnessed a marriage in the Reformed Church. He married in that church the next year and is buried in the St. Johns the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church cemetery. My research shows he did not come from Charles County, MD or St. Mary's County, MD. If not there, then where? Tks, Fred Hagan ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The Germans I have found named Francis were really latin Fanciscus in the Church records. ----- Original Message ----- From: JYoung6180@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:00 PM To: MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County In a message dated 11/5/02 5:07:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmh2294@msn.com writes: > Some of my later Germans in Baltimore were named Francis and called Frank. Joanne- I have yet to see a German 'Francis' born in the 1760s or earlier--which this 'Francis' would have to have been--unless, of course, he was originally Frantz and the name was Americanized to Francis along the way--but why not just Frank then? "Francis" could have entered the picture after a family was in America long enough to have intermarried with non-Germans and named children after non-German family members but I don't find it at all in the early Germans who had just arrived in America (appearing on the ship lists). Joan ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Good point but the name could have been Frank, which I failed to mention. This name does appear in our family lines occassionally. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > In a message dated 11/5/02 2:59:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, > FHagan@techcomm.net writes: > > > Hi Liz, > > Thank you for this information. I and my cousins suspect the origins of > our > > Hagan line was German rather than Irish even though some of our now dead > > relatives would turn over in their graves to learn they were not Irish. We > > just cannot prove it. I have found the name spelled Hagen several times > and > > I understand this is the German spelling. I have not looked in West > > Virginia as a source of travel to Frederick but will do so now. > > Fred > > Fred- > > I don't know--I could buy HAGEN begin German--in fact, I find a Christian > Hagen listed on the PA German ship arrival lists in 1750, arriving on the > Sandwich (he signed with a mark X). I suspect, since he is listed along with > an Anthony Hachen and Julius Hachen who did sign their own names, that the > original spelling for this family name is Hachen. > > As for similar names appearing in Catholic records--I find a William Hagen > and Elizabeth Young as sponsors at the marriage of Barnabas McMollen and > Elizabeth Right at Conewago Chapel in Adams County, PA, in 1796. > > My difficulty in accepting that your HAGAN ancestor is German lies more with > the given name Francis--I have never seen a German in the mid 1700s (when the > family would be recent arrivals) with the given name Francis. > > Joan > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you looked for information at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 11/5/02 5:07:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, jmh2294@msn.com writes: > Some of my later Germans in Baltimore were named Francis and called Frank. Joanne- I have yet to see a German 'Francis' born in the 1760s or earlier--which this 'Francis' would have to have been--unless, of course, he was originally Frantz and the name was Americanized to Francis along the way--but why not just Frank then? "Francis" could have entered the picture after a family was in America long enough to have intermarried with non-Germans and named children after non-German family members but I don't find it at all in the early Germans who had just arrived in America (appearing on the ship lists). Joan

Fred, Maryland was settled by Catholics who started spreading out later. Some of my later Germans in Baltimore were named Francis and called Frank. Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Hagan Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:54 PM To: MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County Thanks to all who replied to this message. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Hagan To: MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Migration to Frederick County Can someone give a brief discourse on where the general Frederick County population came from in the mid/late 1700's? I have been searching for the birth place of Francis HAGAN for 25 years and cannot find it. Francis first appears in Frederick County records in 1787 when he witnessed a marriage in the Reformed Church. He married in that church the next year and is buried in the St. Johns the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church cemetery. My research shows he did not come from Charles County, MD or St. Mary's County, MD. If not there, then where? Tks, Fred Hagan ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== The OFFICIAL website for this list is: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/frederick/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 11/5/02 2:59:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, FHagan@techcomm.net writes: > Hi Liz, > Thank you for this information. I and my cousins suspect the origins of our > Hagan line was German rather than Irish even though some of our now dead > relatives would turn over in their graves to learn they were not Irish. We > just cannot prove it. I have found the name spelled Hagen several times and > I understand this is the German spelling. I have not looked in West > Virginia as a source of travel to Frederick but will do so now. > Fred Fred- I don't know--I could buy HAGEN begin German--in fact, I find a Christian Hagen listed on the PA German ship arrival lists in 1750, arriving on the Sandwich (he signed with a mark X). I suspect, since he is listed along with an Anthony Hachen and Julius Hachen who did sign their own names, that the original spelling for this family name is Hachen. As for similar names appearing in Catholic records--I find a William Hagen and Elizabeth Young as sponsors at the marriage of Barnabas McMollen and Elizabeth Right at Conewago Chapel in Adams County, PA, in 1796. My difficulty in accepting that your HAGAN ancestor is German lies more with the given name Francis--I have never seen a German in the mid 1700s (when the family would be recent arrivals) with the given name Francis. Joan

Thanks to all who replied to this message. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Hagan To: MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Migration to Frederick County Can someone give a brief discourse on where the general Frederick County population came from in the mid/late 1700's? I have been searching for the birth place of Francis HAGAN for 25 years and cannot find it. Francis first appears in Frederick County records in 1787 when he witnessed a marriage in the Reformed Church. He married in that church the next year and is buried in the St. Johns the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church cemetery. My research shows he did not come from Charles County, MD or St. Mary's County, MD. If not there, then where? Tks, Fred Hagan

West Virginia became a state in 1863 ************************************************ Genealogy Research: Baker, Barnhouse, Enoch, Higgins, Jarard/Jarrett, Tennant, Weekley Gates, Lockhart, Collins, Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: <JRay38s@aol.com> To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > <PRE>Just a reminder...... back then there was no West Virginia. It was all > Virginia. I believe W.Va. didn't become a state until like 1867. > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I found out awhile ago, not too sure if this is the reason back in the 1800's or earlier. But it is illegal to marry your first cousin in the states surrounding Maryland but LEGAL to do so in the state of Maryland. Many from West Virginia and Virginia would migrate across the border into Maryland to get married because of this reason. -----Original Message----- From: JRay38s@aol.com [mailto:JRay38s@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:00 PM To: MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County <PRE>Just a thought, try Virginia. My family was from Loudoun Co. (Middleburg) Virginia and one couple married in Frederick Co. MD. I was told that some people would come from Virginia to marry there. ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== Have you tried looking at the Washington County, Maryland site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdwashin/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Fred, I realized as I re-read my message that I said WEST Virginia. It is West Virginia now but was Virginia prior to the Civil War. You may also want to try all the likely vowel substitutions for the "a" and "e" in Hagen, i.e., Hogan, Haugen, etc. The recorders were not always German and the spelling variations can be truly amazing! good luck, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hagan" <FHagan@techcomm.net> To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > Hi Liz, > Thank you for this information. I and my cousins suspect the origins of our > Hagan line was German rather than Irish even though some of our now dead > relatives would turn over in their graves to learn they were not Irish. We > just cannot prove it. I have found the name spelled Hagen several times and > I understand this is the German spelling. I have not looked in West > Virginia as a source of travel to Frederick but will do so now. > Fred > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz Stratton" <lstratton@cinci.rr.com> > To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:42 PM > Subject: Re: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > > > > Fred, > > I do not know if this will help as "Hagan" does not sound like a German > > name. However, my Frederick County ancestors were all from various places > > in Pennsylvania. One family was from Chester County, Pennsylvania and I > > know there were others from that county who migrated to Frederick County > as > > well. There is another group of ancestors who migrated from Lancaster > > County, Pennsylvania first to Berkeley County, West Virginia and then to > > Frederick County. Both of the families were of German ancestry and, in > > fact, were joined in Frederick County Maryland by some of their distant > > cousins from Germany. I also have families from Virginia and New Jersey > who > > passed briefly through Frederick County! > > > > In general, there was a flow of new settlers southward from Pennsylvania > to > > Maryland as land became more scarce and more expensive in Pennsylvania. > If > > "Hagan" has German or Irish origins, I would definitely look in > > Pennsylvania. Also, be on the look-out for name spelling changes that > > frequently occurred with these moves. Each successive move led to changes > > in one of my line's name spelling (Volcker > Fulker > Fulkerth > Folkerth > > and Ems > Emes > Ames etc.). > > > > Good luck! > > Liz > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Fred Hagan" <FHagan@techcomm.net> > > To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:00 PM > > Subject: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > > > > > > > Can someone give a brief discourse on where the general Frederick County > > population came from in the mid/late 1700's? > > > > > > I have been searching for the birth place of Francis HAGAN for 25 years > > and cannot find it. Francis first appears in Frederick County records in > > 1787 when he witnessed a marriage in the Reformed Church. He married in > > that church the next year and is buried in the St. Johns the Evangelist > > Roman Catholic Church cemetery. My research shows he did not come from > > Charles County, MD or St. Mary's County, MD. If not there, then where? > > > Tks, > > > Fred Hagan > > > > > > > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > > > Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: > > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING Allowed here! To contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: MD-FRED-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

<PRE>Just a reminder...... back then there was no West Virginia. It was all Virginia. I believe W.Va. didn't become a state until like 1867.

<PRE>Just a thought, try Virginia. My family was from Loudoun Co. (Middleburg) Virginia and one couple married in Frederick Co. MD. I was told that some people would come from Virginia to marry there.

Hi Liz, Thank you for this information. I and my cousins suspect the origins of our Hagan line was German rather than Irish even though some of our now dead relatives would turn over in their graves to learn they were not Irish. We just cannot prove it. I have found the name spelled Hagen several times and I understand this is the German spelling. I have not looked in West Virginia as a source of travel to Frederick but will do so now. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Stratton" <lstratton@cinci.rr.com> To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > Fred, > I do not know if this will help as "Hagan" does not sound like a German > name. However, my Frederick County ancestors were all from various places > in Pennsylvania. One family was from Chester County, Pennsylvania and I > know there were others from that county who migrated to Frederick County as > well. There is another group of ancestors who migrated from Lancaster > County, Pennsylvania first to Berkeley County, West Virginia and then to > Frederick County. Both of the families were of German ancestry and, in > fact, were joined in Frederick County Maryland by some of their distant > cousins from Germany. I also have families from Virginia and New Jersey who > passed briefly through Frederick County! > > In general, there was a flow of new settlers southward from Pennsylvania to > Maryland as land became more scarce and more expensive in Pennsylvania. If > "Hagan" has German or Irish origins, I would definitely look in > Pennsylvania. Also, be on the look-out for name spelling changes that > frequently occurred with these moves. Each successive move led to changes > in one of my line's name spelling (Volcker > Fulker > Fulkerth > Folkerth > and Ems > Emes > Ames etc.). > > Good luck! > Liz > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Hagan" <FHagan@techcomm.net> > To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:00 PM > Subject: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > > > > Can someone give a brief discourse on where the general Frederick County > population came from in the mid/late 1700's? > > > > I have been searching for the birth place of Francis HAGAN for 25 years > and cannot find it. Francis first appears in Frederick County records in > 1787 when he witnessed a marriage in the Reformed Church. He married in > that church the next year and is buried in the St. Johns the Evangelist > Roman Catholic Church cemetery. My research shows he did not come from > Charles County, MD or St. Mary's County, MD. If not there, then where? > > Tks, > > Fred Hagan > > > > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Fred, I do not know if this will help as "Hagan" does not sound like a German name. However, my Frederick County ancestors were all from various places in Pennsylvania. One family was from Chester County, Pennsylvania and I know there were others from that county who migrated to Frederick County as well. There is another group of ancestors who migrated from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania first to Berkeley County, West Virginia and then to Frederick County. Both of the families were of German ancestry and, in fact, were joined in Frederick County Maryland by some of their distant cousins from Germany. I also have families from Virginia and New Jersey who passed briefly through Frederick County! In general, there was a flow of new settlers southward from Pennsylvania to Maryland as land became more scarce and more expensive in Pennsylvania. If "Hagan" has German or Irish origins, I would definitely look in Pennsylvania. Also, be on the look-out for name spelling changes that frequently occurred with these moves. Each successive move led to changes in one of my line's name spelling (Volcker > Fulker > Fulkerth > Folkerth and Ems > Emes > Ames etc.). Good luck! Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hagan" <FHagan@techcomm.net> To: <MD-FRED-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: [MDFred] Migration to Frederick County > Can someone give a brief discourse on where the general Frederick County population came from in the mid/late 1700's? > > I have been searching for the birth place of Francis HAGAN for 25 years and cannot find it. Francis first appears in Frederick County records in 1787 when he witnessed a marriage in the Reformed Church. He married in that church the next year and is buried in the St. Johns the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church cemetery. My research shows he did not come from Charles County, MD or St. Mary's County, MD. If not there, then where? > Tks, > Fred Hagan > > > ==== MD-FRED-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come on over to the Maryland Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

<PRE>I am trying to find information concerning the following ancestor: - Conrad Beighley and Margarette Wiles "Conrad married Margaretta Wiles. At this time he changed his name to Beighley. Their first home was near Funkstown MD on a tract of land known as "Wiles Beginning They were communicants of the old German Lutheran Reformed Church of Salem. It is still standing, as of 1991, one mile from Hagerstown, MD, on the old Saratoga Road. " This must be about the last couple of decades of the 1700's. I am wondering if anyone has any (or would be willing to try to find any) information on the family (may also have been going by the Old Country name of Beuchele). Secondly, I am wondering about this church -- is it still in existance, can I get some pictures of it and the cemetery? Thanks a lot. Sylvia

Can someone give a brief discourse on where the general Frederick County population came from in the mid/late 1700's? I have been searching for the birth place of Francis HAGAN for 25 years and cannot find it. Francis first appears in Frederick County records in 1787 when he witnessed a marriage in the Reformed Church. He married in that church the next year and is buried in the St. Johns the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church cemetery. My research shows he did not come from Charles County, MD or St. Mary's County, MD. If not there, then where? Tks, Fred Hagan

Dear New Member to the List, The Ordeman family is associated with some of my ancestors. I have this information in my database. I hope it helps. Descendants of Herman D. Ordeman - In Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland, United States of America Generation No. 1 1. CAPTAIN HERMAN D.1 ORDEMAN1 was born November 30, 18121, and died September 12, 18841 , parents unknown. He married CATHERINE SCHMAUL1. She was born March 06, 18161, and died February 14, 18891. More About CAPTAIN HERMAN D. ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 3 Burial: September 13, 1884, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 More About CATHERINE SCHMAUL: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 4 Burial: February 14, 1889, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 Children of HERMAN ORDEMAN and CATHERINE SCHMAUL are: i. JOHN H.2 ORDEMAN1, b. March 29, 18391; d. March 02, 19041; m. ELIZABETH C. F. UNKNOWN1; b. January 01, 18491; d. March 20, 19171. More About JOHN H. ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 7 Burial: March 04, 1904, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 More About ELIZABETH C. F. UNKNOWN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 8 Burial: March 24, 1917, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 2. ii. DANIEL THOMAS ORDEMAN, b. October 08, 1848; d. February 16, 1907. iii. GEORGE A. ORDEMAN1, b. 18511; d. June 30, 18941. More About GEORGE A. ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 5 Burial: July 02, 1894, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 iv. EMMA ORDEMAN1, b. October 20, 18581; d. October 18, 19411; m. EUGENE HUGHES1; b. March 21, 18541; d. December 09, 19071. More About EMMA ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 10 Burial: October 20, 1941, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 More About EUGENE HUGHES: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 9 Burial: December 09, 1907, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 v. FREDERICK A. ORDEMAN1, b. October 28, 18571; d. September 07, 19241; m. SARAH C. SMELTZER1; b. 18611; d. November 09, 19441. More About FREDERICK A. ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 118, 3 Burial: September 08, 1924, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 More About SARAH C. SMELTZER: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 118, 4 Burial: November 11, 1944, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 Generation No. 2 2. DANIEL THOMAS2 ORDEMAN (HERMAN D.1)1 was born October 08, 18481, and died February 16, 19071. He married EDITH MAY BEST1, daughter of WILLIAM BEST and ELIZABETH HALLER. She was born July 16, 18671, and died November 24, 19311. More About DANIEL THOMAS ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 11 Burial: February 18, 1907, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 More About EDITH MAY BEST: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 120, 12 Burial: November 24, 1931, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 Children of DANIEL ORDEMAN and EDITH BEST are: i. HERMAN WILLIAM3 ORDEMAN1, b. July 31, 18881; d. December 31, 19471; m. CLARA ELIZABETH BOWERS1; b. May 17, 18881; d. February 05, 19681. More About HERMAN WILLIAM ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 118, 1 Burial: January 03, 1948, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 More About CLARA ELIZABETH BOWERS: Bur. Loc. Cem.: D, , 6 Burial: February 08, 1968, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland1 ii. DR. GEORGE FREDERICK ORDEMAN2,3, b. November 09, 18923; d. May 27, 1959, Whiting, Indiana3; m. CHARLOTTE EVELYN SINN4,5; b. September 06, 18935; d. March 14, 19705. More About DR. GEORGE FREDERICK ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: AA, 121 W 1/2, 3 Burial: June 03, 1959, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland5 Cause of Death: Pulmonary Embolism5 More About CHARLOTTE EVELYN SINN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: AA, 121 W 1/2, 4 Burial: March 19, 1970, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland5 iii. HELEN CATHERINE ORDEMAN5, b. November 05, 18945; d. August 13, 19715; m. DR. SHERMAN JENKINS HAMILTON5; b. November 28, 18885; d. August 30, 19615. More About HELEN CATHERINE ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 118, 5 Burial: August 23, 1971, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland5 More About DR. SHERMAN JENKINS HAMILTON: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 118, 6 Burial: September 01, 1961, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland5 iv. BERNARD HENRY ORDEMAN5, b. December 24, 19025; d. February 13, 19035. More About BERNARD HENRY ORDEMAN: Bur. Loc. Cem.: A, 118, 11 Burial: February 15, 1903, Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland5 Endnotes 1. Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Mt. Olivet Cemetery Database, Owned by Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland. 2. The Frederick Post, Thursday, April 15, 1937, C. Edward Sinn Death. 3. Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Mt. Olivet Cemetery Database, Owned by Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland. 4. The Frederick Post, Thursday, April 15, 1937, C. Edward Sinn Death. 5. Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Mt. Olivet Cemetery Database, Owned by Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland. Vicki Crawford Carroll _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

In a message dated 10/26/02 6:12:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, i-n-ordemann@easy-call.net writes: > Where can I find FAQs - if any - of this list? Hi, Nikolaus- Actually your best source of information as to what has already been discussed on this list would be to either search or browse the list archives: To search, start here: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in MD-FRED-GEN as the list you wish to search and then select the year and keyword or surname or other search criteria you wish to search for. To search to see whether your surname was ever discussed on this list, I'd suggest the search criteria: Ordeman OR Ordemann --and I'd suggest you search each year. You cannot search ALL lists at once from within RootsWeb (instead of just this one list)--you would need to do a google search on your surname to pick up posts in all RootsWeb list archives that include this surname. You can also browse through old messages that have been posted to this list (rather than searching) here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Again, type in: MD-FRED-GEN as the list you wish to view and then select the month/year you wish to browse. If you are looking for information on how to use RootsWeb Mailing Lists in general you might wish to check the archives of the RootsWeb e-zine RootsWeb Review because there has been a series of articles within the past few weeks detailing the usage of RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Start here: http://e-zine.rootsweb.com/ Select the link for all issues and then check out the past several issues for information on using and searching the lists. Good luck! Joan

Hello Listers, my name is NIKOLAUS ARNOLD ORDEMANN (double n as usual in Germany), born 1938 in Bremen,Germany. I know that Ordemanns from two different family branches emigrated to the USA; some have been living (or are still alive) in Maryland and in other states, descendants from another branch settled in Texas (after they have emigrated from Germany to the Netherlands). Far relatives of mine are running genealogical homepages of their families in the US, and there is done some Ordeman(n) research there. This year I set up a genealogical homepage for my own which I like to become the round-the-world Ordeman(n) Homepage. It is written in German, my native language. Most of the today's Ordemanns are living in Germany or in countries where my language is spoken, and my knowledge of English is not so good as it might seem to be in sight of this mail (I haven't got enough dictionaries to translate all biographical information in my homepage into your language). I would appreciate to get further information about my family to complete my database (based on PAF) and my homepage. Where can I find FAQs - if any - of this list? Curious for new and interesting stuff Nikolaus Ordemann i-n-ordemann@easy-call.net www.genealogienetz.de/privat/ordemann

The Urbana Historical Society will have Joy Beasley, field archeologist, speaking about this season's finds at the Best Farm of the Monocacy National Battlefield. The meeting is on Tuesday October 22, 2002 at 7:00 pm at the Hampton School. A PowerPoint slide presentation will be given. The Hampton school, a one room restored schoolhouse, is located at the intersection of Route 80, Fingerboard Road and Park Mills Road two miles west of the I-270 Urbana Interchange. All are welcome. Parking on the grass behind the school is acceptable. Gil House Urbana Historical Society