Hello listers and happy thanksgiving. I ask your indulgence for a new lister with little knowledge of the US or Baltimore with what may be a silly question. I have an address from a 1956 city directory and wondered if the house was still there. It is 3404 Wabash Avenue. Thanks in advance Jane --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

rsmith6670@msn.com wrote: > > I found the 1776 Maryland state census on Ancestry.com but it > is not the original census. They just list what was on the > census.Would anyone know where I could find the original 1776 > Maryland state census online? You can find indices to some Maryland censuses, including 1776, at the archives: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/refserv/html/census.html > There was a Gorge and Cathron > Ray listed with children Mary,Robert and Samuel Ray. I need to > know if the Mary could have been Mark and the person that > copied the information misread it. They lived in Harford co > Maryland. No way to tell from just the census. It's interesting that you are looking for a Mark Ray. I am looking for a Marcellus Ray, born about 1817, and lived in Baltimore City. Since Mark and Marcellus are basically the same name, I wonder if there might be some connection? -- Thomas M. Sommers -- tms@nj.net -- AB2SB

The difference would be the year of death -- After medicare came in the 1960's, everyone had to have a SSN to get Medicare benefits but before that many people did not have one. Women in particular did not as they did not work outside the home, but also in the early years of SS those who were self employed were required to have one -- farmers often did not. Also women in the earlier years of Medicare would have the same number as their husband with an A attached (000-00-0000A) instead of having a separate number. Tricia Fortney triciaf66@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. > [Original Message] > From: <m.mullikin@att.net> > To: <md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com> > Date: 11/22/2006 11:31:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications > > This really is not necessarily true. My grandmother died at the age of 86 in 1973--Never worked a day in her life outside her home, never paid social security, but she had a social security number. She is listed in the SSDI. She did receive survivor's benefits from her son--my uncle, who was killed in an industiral accident at Ellicotts in Baltimore. He also had a social security number, and obviously paid into social security. He died in March 1967 and is not listed in the SSDI. > > Monica > -- > Monica Mullikin > Goose Creek, South Carolina > > > -------------- Original message from "Ed Arthur" <edward.p.arthur@verizon.net>: -------------- > > > > Emily, > > > > Your question is answered by asking if your grand mother ever worked. > > Social Security was a work related program. If she worked after 1936 she > > was required to haver an SSN. If she didn't work then she didn't have an > > SSN and thus no record. > > > > EA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:08 PM > > Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications > > > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I was wondering if anybody could answer this question for me: > > > > > > My great-grandfather died in 1928. My great-grandmother, his wife, never > > > worked after his death. She died in 1944; a social security number was > > > not > > > listed on her death certificate, but it was likely the informant just did > > > not > > > know if she had one or not. Would there have been any reason for her to > > > apply > > > for a social security number in the 1930s? I'd love it if she had one > > > that > > > I could send for (clues as to conflicting birth places, etc.). > > > > > > Have a great Thanksgiving! > > > Emily > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROWE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACI/7393 Message Board Post: Edward's parents were William and Margaret Rowe. Edward moved to Gloucester Co., VA, and married Susan Hayes in 1844. They had 5 children, all born in Gloucester; however, the two sons, Andrew Jackson Eaton Rowe and James William (Willie) E. Rowe, moved back to Baltimore in the 1870's - 80's, established a sucessful commission merchant business, "Rowe and Jurney", adjacent to the old Baltimore docks and their children (most of them) were born in Baltimore. My grandmother (a daughter of Andrew), Margaret Thomas Rowe, was born in Baltimore on October 26, 1880, and has told me of watching the horse-drawn fire wagons racing out of a nearby firehouse. I'd very much appreciate some guidance, direction, help as to where I can find anything on Edward's parents/ancestors and any information concerning his Baltimore-born grandchildren. Thanks for any help - this has been a brick-wall situation for me for a long time. "Ham" Williams (in Gloucester Co., VA)

The requirements for having a Social Security number have changed over time, and I am pretty sure the criteria for being in the death index has too. Contrary to the message below, a death benefit is not required to be listed in the index. I had a friend who died in 1992 with no living relatives to receive a death benefit, and she is in the index. >From their web site, I believe it is currently a list of all deaths that are reported to the Social Security Administration. If a person received benefits while living, it is mandatory that their death be reported. Most funeral homes now voluntarily report deaths to SSA (I had erroneously thought that was a law.). Reporting requirements were not as stringent in the past, so more deaths are missing from earlier years. The list is kept by SSA as the Death Master File, as a way to verify that someone has died(and therefore their SSN is no longer valid) in order to prevent fraud. And we thought it was for our genealogical use. :-) Ancestry and others buy it from SSA and call it the SSDI. You can read more about it at http://www.ntis.gov/products/ssa-dmf.asp Note that they don't guarantee any of its correctness. John -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gayle Triller Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:49 AM To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications To be listed on the SSDI your surviving spouse must have applied for the $255 death benefit. -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GregoryRBurton@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:19 AM To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications Social Security Applications may have been filed any time after Social Security started. SS# are needed now for bank accounts. My Great-Grandmother applied for a SS# in 1966, for a bank account. Someone who died in 1966 may or may not be listed in the SSDI. I have at least one cousin who died recently and is not listed in the SSDI, heard that he will not be listed there because he was on Social Security Disability. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACI/7392 Message Board Post: I found the 1776 Maryland state census on Ancestry.com but it is not the original census. They just list what was on the census.Would anyone know where I could find the original 1776 Maryland state census online? There was a Gorge and Cathron Ray listed with children Mary,Robert and Samuel Ray. I need to know if the Mary could have been Mark and the person that copied the information misread it. They lived in Harford co Maryland. Any help appreciated. Thanks,Ross

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kennedy, Cox, Hood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACI/7391 Message Board Post: I would be interested in learning more about a company that went by the name Kennedy & Cox. This firm existed in the early part of the 19th century. I'd like to know who Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Cox were, the type of business they had and how long they were in business. My interest in this company stems from a lawsuit they filed against my ancestor, Archibald Hood, in Greene County, Pennsylvania in 1806 (Archibald Hood was a resident of Greene County, PA). They were successful in prosecuting their claim and when it ended in 1810, it nearly left Archibald Hood bankrupt. The court records in Greene County do not identify where this firm was located, but I'm making an educated guess that it was in Baltimore. I'd be interested in comparing notes with anyone who knows something about the company. Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACI/4773.1.1 Message Board Post: Joanne, Thank you for your help! I appreciate the suggestion and will look into it. Colleen

Monica, This is only true if you were around in the 1970s on because banks and other financial institutions began requiring social security numbers and when someone finally filed for social security they got a number. The IRS also started requiring them on income tax forms. Many people didn't get one in the earlier years. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications This really is not necessarily true. My grandmother died at the age of 86 in 1973--Never worked a day in her life outside her home, never paid social security, but she had a social security number. She is listed in the SSDI. She did receive survivor's benefits from her son--my uncle, who was killed in an industiral accident at Ellicotts in Baltimore. He also had a social security number, and obviously paid into social security. He died in March 1967 and is not listed in the SSDI. Monica -- Monica Mullikin Goose Creek, South Carolina -------------- Original message from "Ed Arthur" <edward.p.arthur@verizon.net>: -------------- > Emily, > > Your question is answered by asking if your grand mother ever worked. > Social Security was a work related program. If she worked after 1936 she > was required to haver an SSN. If she didn't work then she didn't have an > SSN and thus no record. > > EA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:08 PM > Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications > > > > Hi list, > > > > I was wondering if anybody could answer this question for me: > > > > My great-grandfather died in 1928. My great-grandmother, his wife, never > > worked after his death. She died in 1944; a social security number was > > not > > listed on her death certificate, but it was likely the informant just did > > not > > know if she had one or not. Would there have been any reason for her to > > apply > > for a social security number in the 1930s? I'd love it if she had one > > that > > I could send for (clues as to conflicting birth places, etc.). > > > > Have a great Thanksgiving! > > Emily > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To be listed on the SSDI your surviving spouse must have applied for the $255 death benefit. -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GregoryRBurton@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:19 AM To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications Social Security Applications may have been filed any time after Social Security started. SS# are needed now for bank accounts. My Great-Grandmother applied for a SS# in 1966, for a bank account. Someone who died in 1966 may or may not be listed in the SSDI. I have at least one cousin who died recently and is not listed in the SSDI, heard that he will not be listed there because he was on Social Security Disability. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BAUGHMAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACI/4786.3.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your help. The order's in the mail!

As to being listed if you were on SS Disability: my sister was on SS disability and she is listed, and my daughter-in-law as on SS disability and she is listed. I believe it has to do more if a claim was made to SS upon death of the individual. However, there seems to be lots of inconsistencies. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GregoryRBurton@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:19 AM To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications Social Security Applications may have been filed any time after Social Security started. SS# are needed now for bank accounts. My Great-Grandmother applied for a SS# in 1966, for a bank account. Someone who died in 1966 may or may not be listed in the SSDI. I have at least one cousin who died recently and is not listed in the SSDI, heard that he will not be listed there because he was on Social Security Disability. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Social Security Applications may have been filed any time after Social Security started. SS# are needed now for bank accounts. My Great-Grandmother applied for a SS# in 1966, for a bank account. Someone who died in 1966 may or may not be listed in the SSDI. I have at least one cousin who died recently and is not listed in the SSDI, heard that he will not be listed there because he was on Social Security Disability.

This really is not necessarily true. My grandmother died at the age of 86 in 1973--Never worked a day in her life outside her home, never paid social security, but she had a social security number. She is listed in the SSDI. She did receive survivor's benefits from her son--my uncle, who was killed in an industiral accident at Ellicotts in Baltimore. He also had a social security number, and obviously paid into social security. He died in March 1967 and is not listed in the SSDI. Monica -- Monica Mullikin Goose Creek, South Carolina -------------- Original message from "Ed Arthur" <edward.p.arthur@verizon.net>: -------------- > Emily, > > Your question is answered by asking if your grand mother ever worked. > Social Security was a work related program. If she worked after 1936 she > was required to haver an SSN. If she didn't work then she didn't have an > SSN and thus no record. > > EA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:08 PM > Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications > > > > Hi list, > > > > I was wondering if anybody could answer this question for me: > > > > My great-grandfather died in 1928. My great-grandmother, his wife, never > > worked after his death. She died in 1944; a social security number was > > not > > listed on her death certificate, but it was likely the informant just did > > not > > know if she had one or not. Would there have been any reason for her to > > apply > > for a social security number in the 1930s? I'd love it if she had one > > that > > I could send for (clues as to conflicting birth places, etc.). > > > > Have a great Thanksgiving! > > Emily > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Emily, Your question is answered by asking if your grand mother ever worked. Social Security was a work related program. If she worked after 1936 she was required to haver an SSN. If she didn't work then she didn't have an SSN and thus no record. EA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Eeraemore@aol.com> To: <MD-BaltimoreCity-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Social Security Applications > Hi list, > > I was wondering if anybody could answer this question for me: > > My great-grandfather died in 1928. My great-grandmother, his wife, never > worked after his death. She died in 1944; a social security number was > not > listed on her death certificate, but it was likely the informant just did > not > know if she had one or not. Would there have been any reason for her to > apply > for a social security number in the 1930s? I'd love it if she had one > that > I could send for (clues as to conflicting birth places, etc.). > > Have a great Thanksgiving! > Emily > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi list, I was wondering if anybody could answer this question for me: My great-grandfather died in 1928. My great-grandmother, his wife, never worked after his death. She died in 1944; a social security number was not listed on her death certificate, but it was likely the informant just did not know if she had one or not. Would there have been any reason for her to apply for a social security number in the 1930s? I'd love it if she had one that I could send for (clues as to conflicting birth places, etc.). Have a great Thanksgiving! Emily

Social Security did not start untill 1937

Winterling Court can be found on Map Quest. Winterling Court Baltimore Maryland 21231 It is between S. Collington and S. Madeira below Eastern Avenue, although it is not labelled on the map with a street name. Lisa

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Hello List, I am trying to locate 2 streets in Baltimore, Winterlings Court and Cambridge Street, can anyone direct me to a map. Thanks, Liz