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    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Wesley HINEMAN obit look-up Please
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mrstkdsd Surnames: HINEMAN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7456/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I need to find an obituary for: Name: Wesley Hineman Born: 1 May 1923 Last Benefit: 21239 Baltimore, Baltimore City, Maryland Died: Oct 1980 Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Cynthia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/29/2007 12:32:06
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Noeth family info
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: katiealthoff1 Surnames: Hofels Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/3817.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great great grandmother was an Anna Hofels born Oct 29, 1853 in Germany and came to Rib Lake Wisconsin. However my ancestor married Franz Schneider and had 9 children. There must be some relation. It's more then coincidence to have two Anna Hofels in such a small town. I have been trying to find more out about the Hofels family, however I haven't been able to find anything really. We have word that her father's name was John Hofels. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/29/2007 08:45:26
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gregory_R_Burton Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7453.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The World War I & World War II draft cards both have the same date 23 Aug 1881 as date of birth. The date is recorded in his handwriting. He was an employee of B & O Rail Road. You can search the Death Index on line and may be able to find his date of death. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/25/2007 07:52:11
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanjo1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7453.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I had to go to Annapolis today on other business and since the archives was open I stopped in a short while. I did not remember from Kathy's posting that Charles's father was John. I only found one Albiker birth in the 1880 and 1881 Index. I really thought I had it till I got to the record and found a surprise - a female child! I'll give it another shot the end of next week when I have more time to look for Charles' record. However it is not a good sign that I only saw one Albiker listed on my quickie search. My grandfather born 9/14/1881 is missing from the index. I suspect the midwives didn't get them all recorded. I hope yours is there next time I look. I'll give you the details of this one anyway; she is a cousin of Charles Albiker, daughter of his brother John. Roll: CR 48,428; Record Number: A47172; Number of child of this mother: 2; Sex: female; Race: white; Date of birth: April 29, 1881; Place of birth: Parish St No. 22; Full name of mother: Anney E. Englehart; Maiden name: Anney E. Albiker; Mother's birth place: Baltimore; Father: George Albiker; Father's occupation: butcher; Father's birth place: Baltimore; Medical attendant: Mrs S. Kelley, 792 Pratt St (On this record midwife recorded the maiden name and married name reversed.) Jean Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/24/2007 06:48:14
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Johann Heinrich Frederick STANGER (1826-1874) and his wife Catherine Rebecca BOAKEN (1829-1909), Baltimore
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: smithclark3 Surnames: STANGER, BOAKEN, ROTH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7455/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This couple came from Oldenberg in Germany to Baltimore in 1853. He was a cooper. They lived on Prince St until 1862, when they moved to Allegheny, PA. Johann Heinrich Frederick STANGER reportedly came to Baltimore because he had a brother living there. He also reportedly had a sister living in Staten Island, NY in the 1850's. Their parents were fine cabinet makers, according to family legend. Johann and Catherine had these children: Carl Heinrick STANGER, b. 1854, George Anton STANGER, b. 1857, Elizabeth Anna STANGER, b. 1859, Dorothea Sophie STANGER, b. 1861, Catherine Margretha STANGER, b. 1863, Heinrick Moritz STANGER, b. 1865, and Catherine Rebecca STANGER, b. 1871. Daughter Elizabeth Anna STANGER, nicknamed "Baltimore Belle," married Godfrey ROTH, a basket salesman. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/24/2007 02:36:11
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanjo1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7453.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I should be going to the archives within a week. The Birth Index which is on microfilm at the archives should have the information about his parents but will only have their first names (not his name but we have a month and day so we should be able to identify him), date of birth and record number. The actual record should have mother's maiden name, father's name, place of each parent's birth, family address and father's occupation. Some of these rolls are used extensively and the beginning of the roll seems to have the most use and may not be readable or even missing. If he was born in 1880 the information should be at the end of the roll which is good but 1881 starts another roll so it is less certain that the information is available. Once we get the number of the record from the index we can go to a microfilm containing the actual record. If this is unsuccessful you might try looking at a death certificate. He probably lived well past the time when death certificates became really useful around mid 1900's. There is an online index covering a short range of years. On that ndex is Minnie W Albiker, died 1944/05/03 record G16864 roll CR48,270 and also Mary A Albiker died 1945/05/09 record G28722 and roll CR48,274. There is also a more cumbersome index available on line which covers all the years at: http://mdvitalrec.net/cfm/dsp_search.cfm Even though this index is a little harder to use it is well worth the time that it takes to use. You would probably start with Baltimore City index. If you know he died in a county you would start with Maryland Counties Index instead of Baltimore City. You can email me at jeanjo@gmail.com if you have any questions. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/24/2007 10:52:25
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1TreeNut Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7453.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was not able to get your email address. Please email me. Besides what the other lister posted for you, I found Charles married with family in 1910, 20 . Several of the family members are listed as Albiker after 1900. 1910 is very hard to read but I think it says Battery Ave. It's in 19th ward. He's 28, railroad laborer I think. Married to Mary, 4 yrs, 1 child, 1 living. Lelia E is 3. 1920 329 S Fulton ave, Ward 19, Balto MD Charles, 38, machinist, auto garage Mary 35 Lelia 13 son 9 dau 4 1930 332 S. Mount st, Ward 19, Balto MD Charles 48, marr at 24, owns home valued at $3100, carpenter, railroad Mary A, 45, marr at 21 Chas L, 19, inspector furniture Leona M, 15 Kathy treenut@bcpl.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/24/2007 07:47:36
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1TreeNut Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7453.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bab- Hi. Flowerfreak posted a lot of info for you to the Mailing List that did not post here on the Message Board. I will email it to you. I also ckd 1880 and can not find them yet. In 1900, that she referred to they were in the city in Ward 20. Here are more details of 1870. They were in Catonsville Balto Co. Dist 1. Salmon ALBECHER, 38, Baden, butcher (probably should have been Solomon) Caroline, 37, Bavaria All born MD: Charles 16 George 14 John 13 (father of Charles Christian in 1900) William 11 Maria 8 Kate 7 Barbara 22, born Wurtemburg, dom servant I will ck other states. With all of these boys, there should be more Albiker, Albecher listings and there aren't. Kathy treenut@bcpl.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/24/2007 07:28:03
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Marriage Look Up: THomas ATKINSON m. Hannah (?)
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bab98 Surnames: ATKINSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7454/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a Thomas Atkinson who was married to a Hannah (could be Ann or Anna aswell) both were from England. I know that Hannah arrived in 1830.... They were married sometime around 1838 and 1839 as they had a child in 1840. Area: Baltimore Maryland Any help and information would be appreciated. Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/23/2007 08:36:44
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bab98 Surnames: ALBIKER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7453/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know he was born on August 23 1881 or 1880...different source information provides different years. What I would like to find out is who is parents were. He was born in Baltimore Independent City Baltimore Maryland. Any other information would be appreciated, if he had any siblings etc. thank you in advance Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/23/2007 08:33:11
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker
    2. FlowerFreak
    3. Ancestry.com has a 1890 Baltimore City directory online. Here are the entries for ALBIKER: Mrs Annie Albiker 2 Stinson Annie C Albiker 1911 Ramsay grocer Annie F Albiker 436 Smallwood grocer Chas H Albiker 54 Garrison Lane tripe Martin F Albiker 1911 Ramsay driver I also found a Charles C. Albiker as the 19 yr old son of John in the 1900 census in Ancestry.com. Charles is listed as having a step sister, Lilly Nunenthal, and step brother, Julius Nunenthal, so it appears that Sarah, the listed wife, was a second marriage since they were reportedly married only 12 years. In the 1870 census, I found what is probably John as a teenager listed under Albecher, the son of Salmon (sp?) and Caroline, from Baden and Bavaria/Bayern, respectively. I have not found them in the 1880 census. I'd be happy to forward the images to you. -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:33 PM To: MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Look Up: Charles Christian Albiker This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bab98 Surnames: ALBIKER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.b altimorecity/7453/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know he was born on August 23 1881 or 1880...different source information provides different years. What I would like to find out is who is parents were. He was born in Baltimore Independent City Baltimore Maryland. Any other information would be appreciated, if he had any siblings etc. thank you in advance Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/23/2007 04:48:32
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Roscommon to Baltimore
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: caribian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/4694.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Kathleen I'll do my best to check if we have a common relative and will get back to you if I find any information. Best Regards Ian (AKA Frederick) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/23/2007 04:00:57
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Roscommon to Baltimore
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mnkathleendouglas Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/4694.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frederick--I don't have direct knowledge BUT my ggrandfather ws Thomas Neary b. c. 1833 in Roscommon, emigrated to Baltimore in 1852. His second son was James Neary. there might be a connection since I could assume that Thomas had a brothre James Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/22/2007 09:37:21
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] 1834/John Meyer family arrival
    2. Dave & Gayle Meyer
    3. Hi, My name is Gayle Meyer. Your inquiry went to my sister who is the genealogist of my family and she forwarded it to me. Her research did not include the Meyer name since that is my married name. I however have done some research on my husband's family. I don't think any of these names are in our direct Meyer line but I can tell you that in my research of my husband's other side of his family I have run into a lot of Meyers from the Westphalen, Prussia area settling here where we live in the Auglaize/Mercer County, Ohio area (specifically the towns of Minster and Fort Loramie). I am getting ready to leave on a week's vacation, but when I return I will look through my stuff and see if anything pops up and I will get back to you. Gayle Meyer email address: dgmeyer@bright.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Eggers" <msgene@mac.com> To: "MD-Baltimorecity" <md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] 1834/John Meyer family arrival I am looking for information on: Johann Dietrich Meyer born Dec.13.1797 and wife Agnesa Arnoldine Wilhelmine born Kartlücke, Westphalen, Prusia, born June 08,1798 They left April 14, 1834 with 5 children, all born in Westercappein, Wesfalen, Prussia Daughter - Catharina Wilhelmina Meyer BD 24.06.1824 Daughter -Johanna Sophia Meyer BD 19.04.1826 Son -Johann Christian Wilhelm Meyer BD 26.01.1828 Daughter -Bernhardine Wilhelmine Meyer BD 19.07.1830 Daughter-Maria Dorothea Wilhelmine Meyer BD 30.01.1833 I found each family member listed in Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s . Year: 1834 (does not give the date) Place:Baltimore, MD The wife is listed as Agnesa Arnoldine Wilhelmin Kortlucke on the passenger information. Kortluck has been spelled- Kortlüke, Kartluke, Kortluecke, Kartluecke, I cannot find any information on them after their arrival in US. I am assuming they remained in the area for some time after arrival. Any suggestions will be helpful. Thank you. Judy in NJ J. Eggers Msgene@mac.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/22/2007 04:13:51
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] MD-BALTIMORECITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 70
    2. Kathy
    3. Judy- HI. It's been a long time. I see some possibilities: 1860 Quincy, Adams Co IL Christian Meyer, 32, Prussia Caroline 30, " Charlotte 10 Caroline 6 Matilda?, 2 1870 Jersey City Hudson NJ Christian Meyer, 42, Prussia, bar tender looks like a boarding house- abt 20 men. there owner is Otts Meyer or something like that, Prussia, 44, occupation: restaurant. also a Frederick Meyer, 45, steward lives there. Email me off list. kathy treenut@bcpl.net > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:19:15 -0400 > From: "J. Eggers" <msgene@mac.com> > Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] 1834/John Meyer family arrival > To: MD-Baltimorecity <md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <069598BE-2861-4A67-AFE9-7A73280122E2@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I am looking for information on: > > Johann Dietrich Meyer born Dec.13.1797 and wife Agnesa Arnoldine > Wilhelmine born Kartl?cke, Westphalen, Prusia, born June 08,1798 > They left April 14, 1834 with 5 children, all born in > Westercappein, Wesfalen, Prussia > Daughter - Catharina Wilhelmina Meyer BD 24.06.1824 > > Daughter -Johanna Sophia Meyer BD 19.04.1826 > > Son -Johann Christian Wilhelm Meyer BD 26.01.1828 > > Daughter -Bernhardine Wilhelmine Meyer BD 19.07.1830 > > Daughter-Maria Dorothea Wilhelmine Meyer BD 30.01.1833 > > I found each family member listed in Passenger and Immigration Lists > Index, 1500s-1900s . Year: 1834 (does not give the date) > Place:Baltimore, MD > > The wife is listed as Agnesa Arnoldine Wilhelmin Kortlucke on the > passenger information. Kortluck has been spelled- Kortl?ke, Kartluke, > Kortluecke, Kartluecke, > > I cannot find any information on them after their arrival in US. I am > assuming they remained in the area for some time after arrival. Any > suggestions will be helpful. > > Thank you. > Judy in NJ > > J. Eggers > Msgene@mac.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:23:01 -0700 > From: "Jerry Gary" <jerrygary2@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Graham, Brady, Corrigan > To: "x-MD-BaltimmreCity" <MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000301c76bcc$d0b483a0$6401a8c0@jerrygary> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Would like to exchange information with anyone interested in any of the > following families that lived in Baltimore during the mid and/or late > 1800s: > Graham > Brady > Corrigan > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MD-BALTIMORECITY list administrator, send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MD-BALTIMORECITY mailing list, send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MD-BALTIMORECITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 70 > *********************************************** > >

    03/22/2007 04:08:20
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Roscommon to Baltimore
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: caribian Surnames: Neary Shaw Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/4694.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kathleen, Do you have any information on a James Neary b1827 in Ireland, may possibly be Roscommon area? I have hit a wall trying to discover any more. I have a public family tree on Ancestry if you wish to check for common links. Any info even negative would be welcome. Thanks Frederick Ian Michael Neary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/21/2007 04:30:05
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] 1834/John Meyer family arrival
    2. J. Eggers
    3. I am looking for information on: Johann Dietrich Meyer born Dec.13.1797 and wife Agnesa Arnoldine Wilhelmine born Kartlücke, Westphalen, Prusia, born June 08,1798 They left April 14, 1834 with 5 children, all born in Westercappein, Wesfalen, Prussia Daughter - Catharina Wilhelmina Meyer BD 24.06.1824 Daughter -Johanna Sophia Meyer BD 19.04.1826 Son -Johann Christian Wilhelm Meyer BD 26.01.1828 Daughter -Bernhardine Wilhelmine Meyer BD 19.07.1830 Daughter-Maria Dorothea Wilhelmine Meyer BD 30.01.1833 I found each family member listed in Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s . Year: 1834 (does not give the date) Place:Baltimore, MD The wife is listed as Agnesa Arnoldine Wilhelmin Kortlucke on the passenger information. Kortluck has been spelled- Kortlüke, Kartluke, Kortluecke, Kartluecke, I cannot find any information on them after their arrival in US. I am assuming they remained in the area for some time after arrival. Any suggestions will be helpful. Thank you. Judy in NJ J. Eggers Msgene@mac.com

    03/21/2007 04:19:15
    1. [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Graham, Brady, Corrigan
    2. Jerry Gary
    3. Would like to exchange information with anyone interested in any of the following families that lived in Baltimore during the mid and/or late 1800s: Graham Brady Corrigan

    03/21/2007 02:23:01
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Marriage lookup, 1880s: Reuben Cropper / Sarah Anne Culley
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AMeadows Surnames: Cropper, Cully, Cox Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/4742.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks again for the information. The following is a synopsis of the evidence that led to the conclusion that the Reuben Cropper who died in 1888 in Cecil County was the husband of Emily in Baltimore - and - the grandfather of Sarah Emma Cropper (1885-1979), daughter of George Reuben Cropper (c.1857 - ?) and Sarah Anne Cully (1868-1951). This summary was put together for distribution at a family reunion (GEORGE family) held in Kent County, MD. Sarah Anne Cully and George Reuben Cropper; And other Miscellaneous Information For years almost nothing was known about the first husband of Sarah Anne Cully. It was said that their son George R. Cropper was named for his father so it was assumed that the father, husband of Sarah Anne Cully, was named George Cropper. Family tradition was that he was a full-blooded Indian, possibly of the Delaware tribe of the Cree Nation (see "George Cousins Reunion 2003" book; information supplied by Blanche Keeler). When their daughter Sarah Emma Cropper was five or six years old (this would have been about 1890), her father "left the house and as he did he looked back at her at a window and blew her a kiss and said 'Goodbye, I love you.' The was the last time anyone ever saw him again." (Blanche Keeler) We have done a lot of research over the past few years, much of it recently, and although we still cannot say what became of Sarah Emma's father, we do now know a great deal about his family and something about his earlier life. We will try to provide that information in an order that makes sense. We began by locating the death certificate for George R. Cropper, younger brother of Sarah Emma. He was born September 3, 1886, and died October 13, 1918. The death certificate gave the name of his father as "Reuben R. Cropper," not George Cropper as we had assumed (since we had been told that George R. Cropper had been named after his father we figured that the middle initial in his name was for "Reuben"). With this information we then began searching the records for his father as Reuben Cropper. But we had little luck with this for a few years. A few months ago we found the following article in the September 15, 1888 edition of the Cecil Whig, a local (Cecil County, MD) newspaper: Sudden Death. Reuben Cropper, who lives in a tenant house on the Mt. Harmen farm in the First district and with his son of the same name engaged in fishing for a livelihood, died very suddenly recently. He ate his supper hastily and was sitting on a bench talking and smoking about 10 o'clock, when he fell forward. His son and a man named Thos. Carson placed him on a bed. He must have died almost instantly. Wm. J. Duhamel, a justice of the peace, summoned a jury of inquest which found a verdict of death from natural causes. Cropper was about 65 years of age. He was a widower his wife having died about 14 years ago. His remains were taken to Baltimore, where he had a son and two daughters, for interment. This was of interest for several reasons: (1) From our research we knew that Reuben Cropper was not a very common name in Maryland and both the father and son in the article were named Reuben. We thought that maybe the younger Reuben Cropper was the one who had married Sarah Anne Cully; (2) Mt. Harmon farm, or Mt. Harmon Plantation, is located in lower Cecil County, close to the border with Kent County. Sarah Anne Cully lived with her parents in northern Kent County so the Reuben Croppers in the article were close geographically to the Cully family; and (3) the Croppers, father and son, in the article were "engaged in fishing for a livelihood." In the 1880 census, Joseph Cully, the father of Sarah Anne, also listed "fisherman" as his trade so it is conceivable that the families knew each other because of the occupations of the fathers: Census, 1880, Kent County, MD; 1st Election District; dwelling/family #22/22: CULLY, Joseph, white, male, 40, married, fisherman, cannot write, born in MD, as were his father and mother. Mary, white, female, wife, keeping house, born in MD, as were her father and mother, cannot write Sarah, white, female, 10, daughter, at home Della, white, female, 7, daughter Martha, white, female, 3, daughter Agnes, white, female, 1/12 (born in April), daughter Joseph, white, male, 14 son The article stated that the elder Reuben Cropper was returned to Baltimore for burial so we began looking in the Baltimore records for a Reuben Cropper. We found this family in the 1860 and 1870 census': 1860, 17th Ward, Baltimore City, Baltimore County, 16th July, Baltimore City P.O., dwelling/family #2170/2848: CROPPER, Reuben, 30, machinist, Emily, 27 Susan, 7 Reuben, 2 HANCOCK, Anna, 25 Robert, 1 Thomas, 4/12 [all listed as white, all born Maryland] 1870, [17] Ward Baltimore City; Baltimore County, MD; 25/6 July; Baltimore City P.O.; family #1098: CROPPER, Reuben, 45, boiler maker Emily, 35 Susan, 16 Reuben, 13 Joseph, 9 Mary, 6 John, 1 [all listed as white] We had located the Reuben CROPPERs, father and son, who were living at Mt. Harmen Farm in 1888 when the father died but there were some questions: (1) why had the father changed from his occupations of machinist (1860) and boiler maker (1870) to that of a fisherman; and (2) why had they left Baltimore and moved to Cecil County? The article stated that the wife of the elder Reuben had died "about 14 years ago" so we thought that may have been a reason he left the city. We found the following: Baltimore Death Index: Emily Cropper, died 10-5-1878; CR48,053 In Matchett's Baltimore Directory for 1853-54, page 74: Cropper, Reuben, fisher, 90 Cross [Street] In Matchett's Baltimore Directory for 1855-56: Cropper, Reuben, laborer, 122 Cross [Street] Wood's Baltimore Directory for 1856-57, pg. 79: Cropper, Reuben, laborer, 122 Cross >From these we knew that Emily, the wife of the elder Reuben and mother of the younger, had died in 1878 (only ten years before the death of her husband, not "about 14" as the Whig article stated) and that the elder Reuben had worked as a fisherman when younger (in 1853/1854). These facts strengthened the theory that the Reuben CROPPERs in Cecil County were the same father and son that were in Baltimore City in the 1860 and 1870 census'. We next found the following: Western Cemetery Interment Records, 1874-1892, Baltimore, MD, Baltimore County Genealogical Society, Inc., Baltimore, Maryland, 2004. Area, lot #, name, burial date S-253 Cropper, Reuben Sep. 2, 1888 S-253 Jennings, Mrs. Dec. 12, 1874 S-253 Kropper (Cropper), Emily Oct. 7, 1878 S-253 Poyner, sb. Dec. 6, 1876 S-253 Stockett, J. Mar. 21, 1874 This shows that a Reuben Cropper was buried on September 2, 1888, just prior to the article in the Whig and so this is certainly the same person that, according to the article, "died very suddenly recently" and whose "remains were taken to Baltimore..for interment." Emily Cropper, the wife/mother in the 1860 and 1870 census was also buried in this same burial plot (at this time we have no idea who the other people in S-253 are). All of this evidence proves that the Reuben Cropper who died in Cecil County in 1888 while living with his son, also Reuben Cropper, as tenants on Mt. Harmon farm was the same Reuben Cropper who was in Baltimore from at least 1853 until 1878 when his wife Emily died. All of this looked good but we still had not definitely connected Sarah Anne Cully to the younger Reuben Cropper at Mt. Harmon. Geographically they were close and occupationally their fathers may have known each other (they were both fishermen) but we still were not certain. We had checked both Cecil County and Kent County courthouses and had not located any record of marriage for Sarah Anne Cully or Reuben Cropper. Then, in a book titled "According to the Church," by Trish Surles, we found this: page 43 Galena Charge Marriages Sep 2, 1884 Geo R. Cropper, 20, Fisherman, Baltimore, Md. Sarah A. Culley, 17, Cecil Co., Md. This states that Sarah A. Cully, age 17 (she was born about July of 1868 so the age is close) married a George R. (probably Reuben) Cropper, a fisherman, from Baltimore. This almost certainly has to be the younger Reuben Cropper at Mt. Harmon farm. >From our research we can say that: 1) Sarah Anne Cully married George Reuben Cropper on September 2, 1884. 2) George Reuben Cropper was born about 1857 or 1858 (he was 2 years old in the 1860 census and 13 years old in the 1870 census). He would have been about 27 when he married Sarah Anne Cully (not the 20 as stated in the marriage record, but it was not unusual to have incorrect ages given. And then again we have not checked the original church records - the number in the book may be a misprint). 3) The father of George Reuben Cropper was named Reuben Cropper. He was born in Maryland about 1825-1830, lived in Baltimore City at least from 1853 until 1878; moved to Mt. Harmon Farm in Cecil County where he died about September 2, 1888; he was buried in Western Cemetery in Baltimore City, along with his wife Emily (she was born in Maryland about 1833-1835 and died October 5, 1878). We do not know Emily's maiden name. 4) George Reuben Cropper, husband of Sarah Anne Cully, had the following brothers and sisters: a) Susan, born about 1853-1854 b) Joseph, born about 1861 c) Mary, born about 1864 d) John, born about 1869 5) We still do not know what became of George Reuben Cropper, father of Sarah Emma and George R. Cropper, after he said goodbye to his daughter around the year 1890. Items we are still researching: 1) We have contacted the people in charge of Mt. Harmon Plantation (it is open to the public for tours) and they will be looking for any records of farm tenants. It is a long shot but we thought we might find more information about the Reuben Croppers' time there. 2) We also found the following in the 1850 Baltimore census: 1850 census, Baltimore City, Baltimore County, MD; 17th Ward; dwelling/family #2131/2695: CROPPER, Stephen, 48, shoemaker, born MD Wm., 24, shoemaker, born MD Rueben, 22, shoemaker, born MD We suspect, but cannot yet prove, that the Reuben Cropper here is the one who married Emily and was the father of George Reuben Cropper, husband of Sarah Anne Cully. We have done some research on the father Stephen and brother William and if it turns out that this is the correct Reuben we will pass along that information. Miscellaneous Information: (1) We also have found the following information concerning Beulah M. Cropper, daughter of George R. Cropper (Emma Sarah's brother). George R. Cropper died in 1918 and his wife Ethel remarried (twice). We found her in the following census': 1920 census, Harford County, MD; Havre de Grace; 12 June 1920; dwelling/family #73/79: LAMPLEY, Charles O., 37, born MD Ethel E., wife, 28, born DE CROPPER, Beulah M., daughter, 6, born MD [Note: Beulah was a daughter of Ethel's first husband, George R. Cropper] 1930 census, Delaware County, PA; Lower Chichester Township; Linwood Heights; Sheet 19B; April 16, 1930; dwelling/family #379/396: LAWRENCE, Ralph H., 34, married first at 32, born PA, father PA, mother England; boilermaker, oil refinery Ethel E., wife, 36, married first at 20, born DE, father MD, mother MD [Henry] T., 68, widower, born PA, father PA, mother PA, watchman, oil refinery CROPPER, Beulah, step-daughter, 16, born MD, father MD, mother DE LAMPLEY, Ethel, step-daughter, 8, born MD, father MD, mother DE (2) We have located the burial place of Lydia/Lidea Reed, the mother of Amanda Hudson (wife of Nicholas Richard George and mother of Louis Harry "Poe" George). Lydia Reed Hudson married as her second husband W. John Cox and they had five children. She was living with one of these, John Thomas Cox, when she died in Queen Annes County about April 2, 1909. According to "Tombstoning in Kent County Maryland" she is buried in Galena Cemetery (we have not actually looked for the grave yet; some of you may already have been aware that she was buried there): Lydia Cox, 1819 - 1909, mother John T. Cox, 1865 - 1942 V Della Cox, his wife, 1874 - 1953 Bertha, daughter of John T. & Della Cox, 1892 - 1908 V. Della Cox, wife of John T. Cox, was Della Cully, sister of Sarah Anne Cully (mother of Sarah Emma Cropper). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/20/2007 04:21:58
    1. Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] family of Matthew Clark
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ClarksNJ1 Surnames: Clark, Glenn, Gaither, Rigdon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/1089.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mary Ann! I believe we have a connection! I am researching my husband's family and his grandfather, Stuart Benson Clark, Jr. had an old family Bible. In it was recorded marriages, births and deaths of the family. The Bible belonged to Jane Gaither Clark and Robert Breckenridge Clark, the son of Matthew Clark and Temperance Glenn Clark. I have been hitting brick walls as far as the Clark name goes, but I recently found someone who looks to be the parents of Matthew: Robert Clark(e) and Elizabeth Rigdon. This may or may not be accurate because I have no way of proving it, in fact I found it on Rootsweb. I have been curious about the "Breckenridge" name and where that comes from as well. By the way, Matthew had a brother named Stephen who was a year older. Maybe we can pool our resources and get this mystery solved! My husband, by the way, is also Matthew Clark, son of Stuart Benson Clark III, son of Stuart Benson Clark, Jr, son of Robert Stuart Clark, son of Robert Breckenridge Clark, son of Matthew Clark. So what does that make us? Marissa Clark Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    03/19/2007 05:32:03