This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: linda1182 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7462.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Good question....I, too, would like to know how you get older Sun obituaries. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BarrySiegle15 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7462.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: jmsyberthome, Saw your post. I have numerous "Baltimore Sun" obits of family members who passed away in the early 1900's (IE 1914, 1922 range) and I know that we had family living in Cities/States that were mentioned in the obituary. As an example of one of my Great-Aunts: "Winchester, VA and Pittsburgh, PA papers please copy". I do not know for sure, but think that it was common practice at the time and done more so by the funeral home. I am quite certain that it was done for the benefit of "distant" relatives who couldn't always make the trip to be part of the funeral. I would suggest calling several funeral homes and talking to the Director's or front office. Gary Kauffman out at Meadowridge Memorial Park area near Jessup would be a good one to ask! Hope this helps! Regards, Barry PS I know you don't see this practice often these days for sure, but communications between relatives is a bit easier, whereas, back then, if you didn't have a telephone, the newspaper was all you had! Just a thought...PPS Can you tell me the url for "older" Baltimore Sun obits online??? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

from 1860-1940's. sncSchatz <sncSchatz@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Kristy- What range of years would you be referencing? Carol -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 1:16 PM To: MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Funeral Directors This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kristy_Hoffmeister Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counti es.baltimorecity/7463/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to locate any information on my families undertaking business. The funeral directors were Mr and Mrs John W Teufel. They were located at 801 West Fayette. If anyone out there can help,I'd appreciate it. My email address is Kristy_H@yahoo.com Thanks Kristy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pambukowski Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7462.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry I can't answer that question but I have one of my own. Did you get those death notices over the internet? I've not been able find old Baltimore Sun death notices. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Try Genealogybank.com -----Original Message----- From: md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:md-baltimorecity-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 4:52 AM To: MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Question about older Sun death notices This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pambukowski Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.b altimorecity/7462.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry I can't answer that question but I have one of my own. Did you get those death notices over the internet? I've not been able find old Baltimore Sun death notices. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmsyberthome Surnames: Batzer, Sybert, Mullin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7462/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have come across a few death notices of my ancesters in the Baltimore Sun. They range from 1850-1900. I have noticed on a few the following line: "[Philadelphia, Reading and Lancaster papers please copy]" What was the purpose of this line? Was the copy a normal part of newspaper business then? Was it done at the request of the family of the deceased? If it was done at the behest of the family, is there a chance that there were other family members in the other city that were meant to see it? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This was done as there were family in these cities. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ Message Board Post: I have come across a few death notices of my ancesters in the Baltimore Sun. They range from 1850-1900. I have noticed on a few the following line: "[Philadelphia, Reading and Lancaster papers please copy]" What was the purpose of this line? Was the copy a normal part of newspaper business then? Was it done at the request of the family of the deceased? If it was done at the behest of the family, is there a chance that there were other family members in the other city that were meant to see it?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fcamer1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7461/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to find information on Bud and Marion Kovar and their family living in Baltimore in the 1970's. I remember my parents Walter and Ailsa (Langsaff/Forsdike) visiting them in the early 70's but I've been unable to connect them to my family tree so far. If anyone could help we I would be grateful. Regards Fiona Cameron (Langstaff) UK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm glad to see that there has been a healthy response to this post. Obviously not everyone agrees, but I personally think that GenealogyBank.com's on-line version of the Sun provides a gold-mine of information. I know I have found a remarkable bounty of data on my family despite having already undertaken 30 years of research. And ... I have just barely begun! There are a few issues. The scans have obviously been made from microfilm and are not of the highest quality but I have yet to find something that was not legible. Also the search function is a little odd. I think it works not on character recognition but rather on the shape or morphology of a word. For example, I had no problem with unique shaped words like Ruppert, Buchheimer and Holdefer. There were perfect matches. But, when I entered Heise, I got matches to Hesse, Reese, Horse and even Ladies! The other quirky thing is the Zoom feature. For some reason the default is set to a minimum size and sometimes Zooming actually freezes up the screen necessitating a restart. Despite these minor negatives, I believe the price of $20 per month (or less on a monthly basis if you take a longer subscription) is well worth it. In addition, GenealogyBank.com has a lot more than just images of the Sun. I have made a numer of hits off the Historical Documents database which contains a lot of scanned federal records (very high quality) that I would never have thought to search on my own. Happy Easter! Gary 6 April 2007 Baltimore http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert

Gary, For the past two days I have been engrossed in the Baltimore Sun using GenealogyBank.com. There have been some fantastic finds -- vignettes, court cases, obits, real estate transactions, etc. that would have taken countless hours of researching otherwise. Thanks so much for the suggestion! I can hardly wait for for to be digitized! Cynthia -----Original Message----- >From: "g.ruppert@att.net" <g.ruppert@att.net> >Sent: Apr 6, 2007 12:55 PM >To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Sun Paper digitized > >I'm glad to see that there has been a healthy response to this post. Obviously not everyone agrees, but I personally think that GenealogyBank.com's on-line version of the Sun provides a gold-mine of information. I know I have found a remarkable bounty of data on my family despite having already undertaken 30 years of research. And ... I have just barely begun! > >There are a few issues. The scans have obviously been made from microfilm and are not of the highest quality but I have yet to find something that was not legible. Also the search function is a little odd. I think it works not on character recognition but rather on the shape or morphology of a word. For example, I had no problem with unique shaped words like Ruppert, Buchheimer and Holdefer. There were perfect matches. But, when I entered Heise, I got matches to Hesse, Reese, Horse and even Ladies! > >The other quirky thing is the Zoom feature. For some reason the default is set to a minimum size and sometimes Zooming actually freezes up the screen necessitating a restart. > >Despite these minor negatives, I believe the price of $20 per month (or less on a monthly basis if you take a longer subscription) is well worth it. > >In addition, GenealogyBank.com has a lot more than just images of the Sun. I have made a numer of hits off the Historical Documents database which contains a lot of scanned federal records (very high quality) that I would never have thought to search on my own. > >Happy Easter! > >Gary >6 April 2007 >Baltimore >http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following are the 50 or more count of surnames in the Norwood family lines. We have accumulated close to 13,500 descendents of Capt. John Norwood of Maryland and each year we add thousands. And we also don’t have all the branches input yet. Kinzie (50), Davis (53), Green (55), Gibbons (57), Gartrell (59), Hyatt (59), Darby (61), Miller (61), Purdum (61), VanSant (62), Mullinix (64), Falconer (65), Brown (66), Fahner (66), DeVilbiss (72), Thompson (86), Browning (87), King (87), Burdette (89), Hood (96), Mitchell (97), Beall (110), Ford (111), Baker (133), Conaway (134), Smith (134), Brandenburg (150), Hobbs (157), Ridgely (159), Bosley (167), Day (212), Wivell (221), Watkins (267), Moxley (295), Norwood (952) The 9th Annual Norwood Reunion is scheduled for the last Sunday of April, April 29th 2007. Check out the details at the website below—Frederick County Genealogical Society under Special Events. www.frecogs.com/SpecialEvents.htm Because so few of Capt. Norwood’s descendents carry his surname (only 952), this reunion has evolved into an “old families” of Maryland reunion especially the families of Frederick, Montgomery, Carroll, Howard--(the four corners area) and Anne Arundel. But we touch just about every other county in Maryland and Washington DC too! Do you have a relative who happens to have the first name or middle name of Norwood? Wonder where it came from? Maybe they are descendent from a female branch of Norwood. Do you have a great with no surname? My 6th great-grandmother was Elizabeth Norwood who married Nehemia Moxley. At past reunions I have met Beall and Watkins who are closer in relationships to me and we come from different Norwoods. PLEASE COME AND JOIN US—EVEN IF YOU ARE JUST A GENEALOGY FANATIC IN THE AREA. The rest of us are certifiably. The treatment is meeting others that are of like spirit. Jane Thursby All Maryland Thursby, Stinchecum, Seward, Claggett, McNamara, Cullison, Barnes, Watkins, Muckelroy, Jillard, Norwood, Benson, Snyder, Beall, Keith, Griffin, Oldner, Kennard, Davis Wheatley, Fell, White, Fallin, Kirkley, Musgrove, Hitchcock, Mullineaux, Merrick, Whelerig, Shipley

Jane: I am not a member of any of those surnames, but I see you are researching Shipley and was wondering if you would be willing to share some of your information. I have very sketchy information that may connect my husband's family to the Shipley's. I am particularly interested in this family because I am originally from Anne Arundel County myself where his Shipleys are supposed to be from, and he is from Pittsburgh and has no other connection to Anne Arundel County. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <thursby@ourmarylandfamilies.com> To: <md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] 9th Annual Norwood Reunion The following are the 50 or more count of surnames in the Norwood family lines. We have accumulated close to 13,500 descendents of Capt. John Norwood of Maryland and each year we add thousands. And we also don't have all the branches input yet. Kinzie (50), Davis (53), Green (55), Gibbons (57), Gartrell (59), Hyatt (59), Darby (61), Miller (61), Purdum (61), VanSant (62), Mullinix (64), Falconer (65), Brown (66), Fahner (66), DeVilbiss (72), Thompson (86), Browning (87), King (87), Burdette (89), Hood (96), Mitchell (97), Beall (110), Ford (111), Baker (133), Conaway (134), Smith (134), Brandenburg (150), Hobbs (157), Ridgely (159), Bosley (167), Day (212), Wivell (221), Watkins (267), Moxley (295), Norwood (952) The 9th Annual Norwood Reunion is scheduled for the last Sunday of April, April 29th 2007. Check out the details at the website below-Frederick County Genealogical Society under Special Events. www.frecogs.com/SpecialEvents.htm Because so few of Capt. Norwood's descendents carry his surname (only 952), this reunion has evolved into an "old families" of Maryland reunion especially the families of Frederick, Montgomery, Carroll, Howard--(the four corners area) and Anne Arundel. But we touch just about every other county in Maryland and Washington DC too! Do you have a relative who happens to have the first name or middle name of Norwood? Wonder where it came from? Maybe they are descendent from a female branch of Norwood. Do you have a great with no surname? My 6th great-grandmother was Elizabeth Norwood who married Nehemia Moxley. At past reunions I have met Beall and Watkins who are closer in relationships to me and we come from different Norwoods. PLEASE COME AND JOIN US-EVEN IF YOU ARE JUST A GENEALOGY FANATIC IN THE AREA. The rest of us are certifiably. The treatment is meeting others that are of like spirit. Jane Thursby All Maryland Thursby, Stinchecum, Seward, Claggett, McNamara, Cullison, Barnes, Watkins, Muckelroy, Jillard, Norwood, Benson, Snyder, Beall, Keith, Griffin, Oldner, Kennard, Davis Wheatley, Fell, White, Fallin, Kirkley, Musgrove, Hitchcock, Mullineaux, Merrick, Whelerig, Shipley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have subscribed to this new offering through a special offer that they gave at the Enoch Pratt genealogy seminar. I made several major break throughs that I would not have been able to do without this service. I found a death notice finally for my 3nd great-grandfather, William Griffin, who died in 1895--the first fact I didn't know. Although his name is not paricularly common, I still needed to know if I had found the right William Griffin. The death notice said funeral would be at the home of his daughter, Mrs. A. M. France. This was Laura Griffin who married Ambrose France hence Mrs. Ambrose France. I wouldn't have know this fact without researching all the children of William Griffin and knowing whom they married even though they are NOT my direct. But the real break through came when sweet Laura added a detail not typically found in a Baltimore Sun Death Notice for a 78 year old. She said "William Henry Griffin eldest son of Jacob and Catherine Griffin." Now I have his parents and their Baltimore Sun Death Notices in the 1850's. And their marriage notice in 1815 from ancestry.com. What a break through! I have notice some short comings with the system like not matching Given name and Surname within a few words. I got too many hits with William and Griffin just being in the same list of death notices. Also you get a few wrong matches. But with my family having unusal surnames and with them being all Maryland, I narrowed down the search to just Maryland papers. I can't wait until they get more recent Baltimore Sun paper (post 1900) because I have many more searches I want to do. One of the surprises I found was my great-grandparents marriage notice. It was more like today's announcements. It gave where the wedding took place, what the bride wore, and who the guests were. Both William Griffin and Mrs. Ambrose France were there as were several others I am now matching up. If you are having trouble with searches use the advance search and add the location or a keyword. Also I recommend a high speed connection. NOTE: any one can search for free. The search result is a very brief clip from the paper that may or may not show you the exact information you want. To see the entire clip requires a subscription. My searches typically didn't show the detail information I needed. Although I guess I have been blessed with unusual surnames and a steady location, I still have had sometimes 500 matches. If I hadn't gone through them all, I wouldn't have had the treasures I found--news articles, advertisements, social news. These tidbits have really fleshed out my family. Jane Thursby Thursby, Stinchecum, Seward, Claggett, McNamara, Muckelroy, Barnes, Watkins, Kennard, Cullison, Oldner, Griffin, Benson, Snyder, Beall--and many more

Well, I don't know about the rest of you all, but I just got a boatload of information from that website (genealogybank.com). I didn't even subscribe, I found the information by the little blurb they give you. I actually found the death of my great-great grandmother who I had been searching for for months. I also found death dates for my great-great grandparents on the other side. I definitely plan to subscribe for a month and read the rest of the information they have for me. Thank you Gary, for putting this information out there. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <g.ruppert@att.net> To: <md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Sun Paper digitized >I stumbled across the fact that part of the Baltimore Sunpaper has been >digitized and is available for every-word search on-line. The dates covered >are 1851 through 1900. I have spent hours searching and finding a goldmine >of information from this source. > > Some years ago ProQuest was looking into digitizing the Sunpaper but did > not carry through because of the cost. The current project is available > through the newly launched GenealogyBank.com (for a fee) and can be found > under Historical Newspapers on their site. It looks like another > organization has done the scanning but GenealogyBank.com is providing > on-line access. > > Since I hadn't seen mention of this on any of the Baltimore lists, I > thought it might be worth bringing up. Just for the record, I have > absolutely no connection with GenealogyBank.com other than being a very > satisfied customer. > > Gary > 4 April 2007 > Baltimore > http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In Maryland, there is a 100 year privacy period for birth records, unless you can prove the person has died. You probably should contact the State Archives in Annapolis to see what type of proof they require. On Mar 30, 2007, at 3:00 AM, md-baltimorecity-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:55:45 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Birth Lookup BOWEN Baltimore City To: <MD-BaltimoreCity-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1175219746.485883@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lastlogj Surnames: Bowen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/ localities.northam.usa.states.maryland.counties.baltimorecity/7458/ mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to locate information on Daniel Bowen, who relocated to Baltimore from Schenectady NY with General Electric? I have not found any info on GE in Baltimore at anytime, so am not certain of this fact. He is in 1920 census in Schenectady, NY with wife Teresa E. Their children were born in Baltimore: Dau Marion Bemis Bowen on 6/14/21 and Son Robert Emmett Bowen on 11/28/22. They left Baltimore before 1925, so no census data would be available. If anyone could please do a look up for the birth of Marion or Robert, am hoping it could lead to their address and Daniel Bowen's employer. I am located in Buffalo NY and would be happy to reciprocate in any way I can. Thank you in advance for any assistance Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There won't be a death certificate, however there are books of indices to death notices in Baltimore newspapers. These books are located at both the Maryland Historical Society Library and the Maryland State Archives, plus other genealogical libraries as well. On Apr 1, 2007, at 3:00 AM, md-baltimorecity-request@rootsweb.com wrote: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Sometime between 1860 and 1870 Johanna died and George brought > the two children to Wisconsin. I want to try to find her death > certificate as well. There won't be a death certificate that early:

What is the URL of this web site? Thanks, Bruce At 05:36 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote: >I just checked out the site and tried some names with a state selection and >found >a few articles which pertain to my family. Too few to make a subscription >worthwhile >but the search results show the date of paper and article name. These can >be >obtained without subscribing and the information returned can be used to >locate >and print your own from the Anne Arundel Community College library, the Law >Library across from the Maryland State Archives, or any other location with >the >Sun on microfilm. Sure beats searching the entire microfilm selection by >hand. > >Chuck > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Bruce L. Nicholson, Ph.D. Retired in Arizona Professor Emeritus Department of Biochemistry, Microbiology.and Molecular Biology The University of Maine Orono, Maine 04469 Email: brucen@maine.edu Home: Gold Canyon, Arizona Personal Web Page: www.geocities.com/brucelnicholson

I just checked out the site and tried some names with a state selection and found a few articles which pertain to my family. Too few to make a subscription worthwhile but the search results show the date of paper and article name. These can be obtained without subscribing and the information returned can be used to locate and print your own from the Anne Arundel Community College library, the Law Library across from the Maryland State Archives, or any other location with the Sun on microfilm. Sure beats searching the entire microfilm selection by hand. Chuck ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hey Gary, Did you try this yet? I just gave up $20 for the month to see this. What a MAJOR disappointment. There site isn't the easiest to define a search. And what results I got from the SUN were hard to read, I guess because it was poorly copied. I'm going to ask for a refund tomorrow. It would be great if the Sun was truly digitized, like the way Proquest did the NY Times and the Washington Post. Karen -----Original Message----- From: g.ruppert@att.net To: md-baltimorecity@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 2:59 PM Subject: [MD-BALTIMORECITY] Baltimore Sun Paper digitized I stumbled across the fact that part of the Baltimore Sunpaper has been digitized and is available for every-word search on-line. The dates covered are 1851 through 1900. I have spent hours searching and finding a goldmine of information from this source. Some years ago ProQuest was looking into digitizing the Sunpaper but did not carry through because of the cost. The current project is available through the newly launched GenealogyBank.com (for a fee) and can be found under Historical Newspapers on their site. It looks like another organization has done the scanning but GenealogyBank.com is providing on-line access. Since I hadn't seen mention of this on any of the Baltimore lists, I thought it might be worth bringing up. Just for the record, I have absolutely no connection with GenealogyBank.com other than being a very satisfied customer. Gary 4 April 2007 Baltimore http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MD-BALTIMORECITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I stumbled across the fact that part of the Baltimore Sunpaper has been digitized and is available for every-word search on-line. The dates covered are 1851 through 1900. I have spent hours searching and finding a goldmine of information from this source. Some years ago ProQuest was looking into digitizing the Sunpaper but did not carry through because of the cost. The current project is available through the newly launched GenealogyBank.com (for a fee) and can be found under Historical Newspapers on their site. It looks like another organization has done the scanning but GenealogyBank.com is providing on-line access. Since I hadn't seen mention of this on any of the Baltimore lists, I thought it might be worth bringing up. Just for the record, I have absolutely no connection with GenealogyBank.com other than being a very satisfied customer. Gary 4 April 2007 Baltimore http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert